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Humanity Rising Day 472 After Chat – Monday May 9, 2022
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00:03:50 Stanley Pokras: Thia is the afterchat for day 472
00:04:44 Kat Haber: @jojo, are you engaging Conservation Orgs to amplify your efforts?
00:05:26 Kat Haber: tax justice network
00:05:45 Marcel de Berg: We have developed the Future Coefficient for this purpose, see
00:05:53 Kat Haber: ::https://taxjustice.net/::
00:06:18 Marcel de Berg: or this blog post: ::https://greenwatercools.org/future-coefficient-supporting-the-return-of-the-commons/::
00:06:39 Kat Haber: @Ros yes both Xistential contributors to ecocide.
00:08:02 Kat Haber: Thank you so very much!
00:10:33 Marcel de Berg: On the other hand 'What is the definion of good?' and who defines what is good?
00:10:39 Kurt Krueger: Peace Lab meets:
We are living on the unceded land of Humanity. You are invited to attend any and all Peace Lab's Wednesday meetings. Before coming, please look over the Peace Lab pages on ::https://www.OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab:: you may find your area of preference and ideas for collaborating and taking action.
Come and find out our newest endeavors to bring forth our motto: Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace. Feel free to share what is working or how you may work to bring more of the motto to life. If you have ideas to spread the message to a broader audience, share with us. Sometimes, we may even just chat or support each other in life's challenges.
Kurt Krueger, Founding member
6:30-7:45 AM Pacific Time ~ stay as long as you like.
The Peace LAB/IMAGINED practices/programs dramatically reduces violence, recidivism, and wars… We get what we focus upon. Let's share our ideas and expertise.
00:10:41 Kurt Krueger: Be a Member of Peace LAB/IMAGINED by taking action! Meditating, smiling, sharing Love...
"Because you are alive, everything is possible."
~ Thích Nhat Hanh ~
00:10:55 Kat Haber: Agreed a massive cultural shift on supporting common goods is required. But people feel like their money is wasted, spent on things they do not want, and far less is given to the things they do. I've seen that shift from have nots to haves and advisors job is to protect clients from paying taxes.
00:11:44 Kat Haber: Estonia has a system with digital passports where voting is done. Japan gives their residents an annual bill. They are not allowed to prepare their own taxes.
00:12:04 Shannon McArthur: oh, Kat, interesting~
00:13:59 Marcel de Berg: See where the money goes, trust, …
Does this mean we need to be able to trust each other?
Does this mean we need to have trustworth society?
Does this mean that we need to be able to decide what is good on a societal level?
How important is than the spoken language, free speech and good governance?
00:14:45 Ros Cook: And there can be no security for anyone with the threat of use of nuclear weapons - their elimination is required for us all to feel safe
00:15:27 Kurt Krueger: Loving Your Enemies. Well worth the viewing, especially NOW. Whatever party, race, gender…
Tim Shriver: In Conversation with Arthur Brooks, On Loving Your Enemies.
What a digital government looks like | Anna Piperal
What if you could help decide how the government spends public funds? | Shari Davis
14 minutes for more trust
AND:
A bold idea to replace politicians
César Hidalgo’s TedTalk has a radical suggestion for fixing our broken political system: automate it! In this provocative talk, he outlines a bold idea to bypass politicians by empowering citizens to create personalized AI representatives that participate directly in democratic decisions. Explore a new way to make collective decisions and expand your understanding of democracy. ::https://www.ted.com/talks/cesar_hidalgo_a_bold_idea_to_replace_politicians#t-776285::
AND
David Bismark: E-voting without fraud
00:15:28 Kurt Krueger: Some Solutions for Government corruption.
PREVENT POLITICAL CORRUPTION
Represent.us is focused on only this. And has numerous ways to do it! 90% of the people in MANY countries would agree with this short video.
00:15:32 Diane S: I trust everything and everybody - even though I realise it's not always the best way. However, it's better fo rme as a person to k
00:17:09 Kurt Krueger: People in harmony allow all other things to be more harmonious. The tuning fork brings another into resonance/alignment. Create the conditions and environments of interaction, each plan and business being immersed in valuing being in relationship with each other. Being in the “Mindful” state IS the NATURE state opening your energy to flow freely in the moment. Being, Listening, Creating.
This program offers both an intellectual understanding and direct experience of biomimicry in its fullness ~ From INside Out. Journey in the curiosity of SHOW ME the highest expression of this moment.
"Behind the restless movement of the mind is the stillness of being, the stillness that has no name, no reputation, nothing to protect. It is the natural mind." ~ Steven and Ondrea Levine.
00:17:17 Diane S: to carry trust. they say it's naïve but - I'd rather be naïve and trust everything and everybody than not trusting and therefore feel full of fear!! So - I trust. Full stop.
00:18:29 Kurt Krueger: Diane, no wonder we always resonate… Always looking on the Bright side of life.
00:18:34 Ros Cook: Buddhism teaches the wisdom that all life is interconnected and must be respected according to the Ultimate law of Life and Death
00:19:01 Diane S: Morality is doing what is right regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told regardless of what is right. My favourite xxx
00:19:29 Leo Jacoby: If religion etc. is created by humans and human is one with nature, can we say nature creates religion etc.?
00:20:30 Ros Cook: But then Buddhism is maybe better described as a humanistic philosophy
00:21:11 Diane S: No Leo (hello Leo :)) - sadly many humans are part of nature but not one with nature. If we were all acting and living mindfully, we might reach that point but...….
00:24:37 Leo Jacoby: Deep ecology links I put in HR chat offer a secular language avoiding hangups about some associations with "religion". Perhaps "sacred" and "deep" are semantic cousins. Hyacinth identifies one source of religion in the human experience of awe.
00:26:09 Shannon McArthur: thank you, Leo! Great thoughts...
00:27:16 Charles Betterton, BLESSivist & EARTHist: I have heard that more significant contributions are made by individuals over the age of 75 than by those under 35. Norman Vincent Peale (who was 93 when I produced a major Community Unity Celebration with him in 1990) and John B. Cobb. Jr. who recently celebrated is 97th birthday by launching the Living Earth Movement ::https://livingearthmovement.eco::
00:29:20 Leo Jacoby: Charles E wrote the forward to this book: ::https://usa1lib.org/book/3555102/ace0df:: (Come of Age: The Case for Elderhood in a Time of Trouble
Stephen Jenkinson, Charles Eisenstein (forward) 2018 EPUB, 1.61 MB)
00:31:02 Leo Jacoby: Other CE ebooks:
::https://usa1lib.org/book/1126200/1c4df3:: (The Ascent of Humanity by Charles Eisenstein 2007 PDF, 3.05 MB)
::https://usa1lib.org/book/3322994/9d8d37:: (The more beautiful world our hearts know is possible by Charles Eisenstein 2013 EPUB, 1.96 MB)
::https://usa1lib.org/book/5692292/bb0434:: (Climate-A New Story by Charles Eisenstein 2018 EPUB, 2.42 MB)
::https://usa1lib.org/book/11643272/ffec28:: (Sacred Economics, Revised: Money, Gift & Society in the Age of Transition by Charles Eisenstein 2021 EPUB, 2.12 MB)
00:31:26 Shannon McArthur: Hi, Tina!!
00:31:36 Tina Michel: Hey Shannon!
00:34:57 Diane S: We can tip the balance - the movement is happening. Just time to join in as much as possible - I gotta go xxxxx
00:35:21 Tina Michel: bye Diane S.!
00:35:30 Shannon McArthur: Bye, love!!
00:35:31 Diane S: Great Stan - I wanna make videos too. Just had a message on a lesson as to how to do it!!
00:35:44 Leo Jacoby: ::https://usa1lib.org/book/16768059/c2f8aa:: (The Idea of the Holy: An Inquiry Into the Non-Rational Factor in the Idea of the Divine and Its Relation to the Rational by Rudolf Otto & John Wilfred Harvey 2013 EPUB, 398 KB)
... a book by the German theologian and philosopher Rudolf Otto, originally published in 1917. It argues that the defining element of the holy is the experience of a phenomenon which Otto calls the numinous.
00:36:17 Ros Cook: Please follow me on Twitter @roslyncook - I will be publishing an article and sharing it there in June concerning issues raised today
00:36:24 Diane S: Press does negative. We're positive so we may have to pay for our marketing advertising!!
00:36:39 Diane S: Brilliant Ros!!
00:37:05 Diane S: let us know xxx
00:37:15 Tina Michel: Thank you, Ros!
00:37:22 Charles Betterton, BLESSivist & EARTHist: Planet Blessed is a small nonprofit organization dedicated to promoting Personal and Planetary Sustainability to help individuals and communities Sur-Thrive in challenging times. We publish a free newsletter every day with a new Mindful BLESsism along with a short video, a journal and meditation prompt and relevant featured resources. ::https://mindfullyblessed.com::
00:37:57 Shannon McArthur: Ros... I want to know more, but I don't use Twitter.
00:38:15 Ros Cook: I tweet on Ecocide Law and the nuclear ban treaty @roslyncook
00:41:50 Charles Betterton, BLESSivist & EARTHist: One possible helpful resource is a template I developed a few years ago and shared at ::http://strategicmarketingmatrix.com/::
00:44:57 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/a-moral-bulwark/:: Harvey Cox’s Radicalism: How the theologian and social critic reminds us of the radical possibilities and egalitarian hopes of a Christian left. By Elizabeth Bruenig JANUARY 5, 2017
00:45:27 Ros Cook: Hi Shannon - if you let me know your e-mail address I can let you know more
00:45:52 Shannon McArthur: sparklingwithall@gmail.com
00:47:33 Leo Jacoby: I'm facilitating a zoom book discussion, June 9, 16, 23, 30 (4pm ET) about how neoconservatives derailed the momentum of Catholic social teaching. More infor leopjacoby@gmail.com
00:47:50 David Stoney: I was not able to see today’s HR. Hope it was useful. Now I must leave… Thanka
00:51:12 Marcel de Berg: ::https://www.linkedin.com/posts/thijs-jochems-b567355_climatechange-activity-6923987222987730945-vWiS/::
00:51:38 Marcel de Berg: ::https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/03/tropical-forests-climate-change-deforestation::
00:59:49 Leo Jacoby: John Perkins tomorrow
01:00:16 Leo Jacoby: Recommended Resource: John Perkins, The New Confessions of an Economic Hit Man ::https://johnperkins.org::
::https://usa1lib.org/book/11140943/eef8ce:: (The New Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins 2016 MOBI, 1.13 MB)
::https://usa1lib.org/book/5577863/99dcb9:: (Touching the Jaguar: Transforming Fear Into Action to Change Your Life and the World by John Perkins 2020 EPUB, 1.84 MB)
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