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Humanity Rising Day 465 After Chat – Thursday April 28, 2022
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00:18:03 Stanley Pokras: This is the AfterChat for Day 465
00:18:52 Leo Jacoby: I have to leave in 10 minutes. Reposting some of my comments from Monday's HR:
1. How might we bridge social, religious, and political divides in our communities? We are hosting a series (April 30, May 7, 14, etc.) of Empathy Cafes - a structured process to listen and learn (like JAZZ!) Come share ideas, insights and actions to bridge our differences. Everyone is welcome to participate. Invite friends! RSVP: ::https://bit.ly/RSVPInterFaithCafe:: Email me for more information: leopjacoby@gmail.com
00:19:01 Leo Jacoby: 2. MANY opportunities to listen and learn THIS WEEK April 24-30. Let's JAZZ! ::https://americatalks.us/national-week-of-conversation/::
National Week of Conversation 2022, the fifth annual, is powered by the #ListenFirst Coalition of 300+ organizations and invites Americans of all stripes to listen, extend grace, and discover common interests. Another courageous step following America Talks, we hope you’ll join this hopeful mission to defeat toxic polarization and heal America by transforming division and contempt into connection and understanding.
3. ::https://www.edwinforcongress.com:: (Edwin is running for Congress in CA, similar campaign as Steven's. Edwin has been promoting Empathy Circles in politics and all aspects of life for 14 years. learn more at: ::https://EmpathyCircle.com::)
00:19:26 Shannon McArthur: Leo, thank you! Lovely to have you with us!
00:20:16 dan@permatrail.org: Non Violent Communication skills are worth developing.
00:22:07 Gay Dillingham: I need to leave for another meeting. Thanks all for participating in our Democracy!
00:22:38 Shannon McArthur: Great to have you join us, Gay!
00:23:02 Patricia Aguirre: Please send link
00:23:33 dan@permatrail.org: that's the mark of a great piece of media @Patricia Aguirre
00:24:50 Patricia Aguirre: Heather´s documentary...would love to see it
00:28:02 dan@permatrail.org: Each watershed would have a native food pizza recipe I bet!
00:28:21 Shannon McArthur: Let us call you a bridge, ok?
00:28:41 dan@permatrail.org: I had a room on Clubhouse for watershed grandmothers a couple times.
00:31:06 Robert Hayes: The Hand That Feeds is an English language documentary film written and directed by Robin Blotnick and Rachel Lears. It chronicles the struggles of undocumented immigrant workers as they attempt to achieve fair wages and better working conditions in New York’s Upper East Side. Since its premiere at the Full Frames Festival in January 2014, the film has received acclaim from critics as well as multiple awards including a nomination for the 2017 Outstanding Business and Economic Documentary Emmy.
00:31:35 Robert Hayes: ::https://www.thehandthatfeedsfilm.com/::
00:31:57 Shannon McArthur: Thank you, Robert
00:32:29 dan@permatrail.org: where are you located in Brazil? @Patricia
00:33:19 Patricia Aguirre: Chapada Diamantina, Bahia
00:33:56 dan@permatrail.org: I think we can automate the best functions of politicians with distributed decentralized autonomous organizations… (DAOs)
00:34:18 Heather Tischbein: Here’s the link to The Hands That Feed. With it we launched the LULAC Grows project that reflects already the helpful suggestions you all have made here: ::https://vimeo.com/644557223::
00:34:24 Charles Betterton, BLESSivist & EARTHist: HUMANITY'S MOMENT OF CHOICE: CHOOSING EARTH ::https://www.voiceamerica.com//promo/episode/1370…::
Wed, Apr 27 at 11:01PM - Thu, Apr 28 at 7:00PM CDT ::https://www.voiceamerica.com//promo/episode/1370…:: WE HAVE AN EVENT (Apr. 28): The VoiceAmerica Special-- HUMANITY'S MOMENT OF CHOICE: CHOOSING EARTH. From the Evolutionary Leaders' Synergy Circles groups at the PC-- Ecological Civilization Synergy Circle, SDG Circle, etc. We post a broadcast SPECIAL gathering content from Earth Day Celebrations around the world. It will be available 24-7 from April 28th at: ::https://www.voiceamerica.com//promo/episode/1370…:: Presenters: Duane Elgin, David Korten, Jude Currivan, Richard Clugston, Laura George, Scott Catamas, Mitchell J. Rabin, Beth Shaw, Karuna, hosted by Deborah Moldow and Kurt Johnson
00:35:52 dan@permatrail.org: White Culture is probably also Colonizer Culture
00:38:58 Charles Betterton, BLESSivist & EARTHist: Complete link for the event ::https://www.voiceamerica.com/promo/episode/137030::
00:43:51 Heather Tischbein: Thank you all for your support and input. I have to head out to a physical therapy appointment.
00:46:15 Patricia Aguirre: Thnak you all nature calling.
00:46:33 Patricia Aguirre: Thanks too all...
00:50:38 Stanley Pokras: Thomas Tubal - recommended by Mary Thorp
00:51:29 Stanley Pokras: Hubl
00:52:05 Mary Thorp_WV: Thomas Hubl - recommended by Mary Thorp
00:52:08 dan@permatrail.org: btw…The design principle in permaculture that says “prefer slow and small solutions” may be getting a bit dated…
00:54:00 Kevin He/him Canada: Highly recommend a recent YOutoob channel called, “rooted Messages”. That has compiled words of indigenous elders globally.
00:54:53 Kevin He/him Canada: Recent inputs from indigenous wisdom keepers about todays times and global prophecy
00:55:48 dan@permatrail.org: thanks kevin, just subbed to that yt channel
00:56:25 Kevin He/him Canada: Dan, there is brilliance in watersheds, that we don’t see.
00:57:10 dan@permatrail.org: the watershed acknowledgement and the occupied land acknowledgement usually can go together!
01:00:42 dan@permatrail.org: It seems to me what we see as the crisis in democracy is also a kind of oversaturation of non two way communication between Gaia's Neurons (which each of us are!).
01:03:20 Mary Thorp_WV: Kevin, I was taken back the other day at how someone was saying to you that you didn't understand the US issues since you're from Canada.
01:05:14 Kevin He/him Canada: Mary, I am often taken a back by the subversive correspondence/attacks by others in this group.
01:05:27 Robert Hayes: from Walking Water:
01:05:47 Robert Hayes: " ... The way water has become a ‘managed’ resource is an example of a distorted and ruptured relationship to that which gives and sustains life for all beings.
We are facing a water crisis, and we are also facing a human crisis. As human beings and as members of the community of Life, we are inextricably tied to water — without it we die. Water unites us on a deep level, reminding us of our unity and interconnection. We also recognize that issues of water injustice from Payahuunadu to Flint disproportionately impact communities of color. We must attend to and undo the systemic and historic systems that have harmed waters and peoples alike.
We offer Walks of Resilience as a contribution to the already existing global movement that asks us to again restore our relations to water, lands and peoples, and to re-center water as a sovereign living force upon which all of life depends.
01:06:11 Robert Hayes: ::https://walking-water.org/resilience-walks/::
01:08:45 dan@permatrail.org: empathytent.com has condensed instructions for some non violent communication guidelines
01:09:20 Mary Thorp_WV: My experience of working with indigenous folks in WV is I was attacked publicly over & over & over again & cringe at this young man's attacks. I'm sure there are others but I haven't met anyone who is bringing indigenous ways into action.
01:09:47 dan@permatrail.org: I live in a home with two enrolled Choctaw Tribal members.
01:10:46 Mary Thorp_WV: How is that, Dan?
01:14:52 Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize: www.thepeoplesintelligenceagency.com The movie is Embargo and the last one. I got Lucie Arnez and her music for this documentary and am in it at 11 years old for a blink of an eye. It includes Ted Sorenson's last interview, Robert Kennedy Jr., Gambini's son telling the truth, Khrushchev's son, and more. It is like the kids are blowing the whistle on their parents.
01:15:36 Charles Betterton, BLESSivist & EARTHist: Thanks Carol Sue for sharing that
01:17:51 dan@permatrail.org: A friend of mind has something called, “The Joining Game” that incorporates many of the Empathy Circle guidelines.
01:19:17 Charles Betterton, BLESSivist & EARTHist: I too appreciate how helpful this community and conversations are thanks to Stanley and participants as well. And now I need to prepare for another meeting! Stay blessed.
01:21:13 dan@permatrail.org: Col. Gordon Cooper says he ended the Cold War by shaking some Cosmonauts hands at a conference in Athens which led to a befriending and a two month tour of America with some new Cosmonaut friends….
01:34:16 Mary Thorp_WV: I'm not sure that watercolor is "better", I'd suggest it is different, gives a different result.
01:35:35 Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz9IJMMWP4M:: The water and pyramid
01:38:28 dan@permatrail.org: modelmywatershed.org to find and interact with your local one
01:39:12 Mary Thorp_WV: Thank you, Dan.
I have to go to what's next. Thank you ALL,
01:39:33 dan@permatrail.org: native-land.ca to find your local indigenous history
01:40:54 dan@permatrail.org: poap.xyz would be a way to build digital souveneirs for interactions
01:43:33 dan@permatrail.org: www.blinkist.com for short book summaries
01:48:19 Robert Hayes: this is starting to sound a bit like Fahrenheit 451
01:48:48 Robert Hayes: being a burner, etc
01:59:17 Robert Hayes: even Elon is pro-Nukes lately
01:59:37 Robert Hayes: oh, those crazy billionaires
02:58:01 Stanley Pokras: 267-968-0407
02:58:13 dan@permatrail.org: 805-908-9213 Dan@permatrail.org
03:06:59 Stanley Pokras: ::https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FVunUVvGFpb4%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR1RlkvouKYNZWLoZGxSL8G8NayMxZ_dCWITxFQ9_EZL8EAL_nCKsOyItfw&h=AT2n4msG3sgrU8yC2mqHKgKbgbKXGcEgJ03ujiEXiAmDHRD3cQB6g3iHfvC7bsL4C8CLdu2wv-0QG6fz-NgaHUStRSE4MFwLddEGjbYG0oY2E-TsTomwRy_Fcq3dK9j0sYZQGHw&__tn__=H-R&c::[0]=AT1mB1fA18D60ChCHtQhIgeWoVpXMiFggkLKo0cKJZNIGPljh7aU_brHnOAjoSOUV_hZM4d97PQxxUoh32q-aX1eAyqfPdcMa5X4klZQYx6ZtsYCB-y-K4v9qVA-q4osEyE5tZwzLN-Y3saE_XgMdU3tSbkCBfJ6_g8
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