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11:09:56 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Greetings from the traditional lands of the Arapaho… may you all feel safe and happy in who you are.
11:10:40 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Lovely to ‘see’ everyone from the unseeded lands of the Spokane.
11:11:03 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Hello… this is the 443rd episode of Humanity Rising
11:11:08 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Please include Everyone here in the chat so we can speak and hear together here. ;). (that would be unceded. Darn spellcheck.)
11:12:43 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://book4you.org/book/11924765/1c2db8:: (free download: What's your pronoun? : beyond he and she by Dennis E. Baron 2020 EPUB, 3.86)
11:12:49 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thank you, Kelsey, for following your path so others can see/choose their own way more clearly.
11:14:38 From Kelsey Pacha to Everyone:
::https://global.oup.com/academic/product/trans-bodies-trans-selves-9780190092726?cc=us&lang=en&::
11:14:50 From Rita Marsh to Host and Panelists:
A message for Jim...
Hanne Strong founder of the Manitou Foundation who currently lives in Crestone Colorado would like to connect with you regarding the Regeneration Project.
::https://www.manitou.org/institute/directors/::
What is the best way for Hanne to connect with you, Jim?
11:16:51 From Jim Garrison to Rita Marsh, Host and Panelists:
I would love to connect with Hanne. My email is jgarrison@ubiquityuniversity.org
11:16:56 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://book4you.org/book/2530586/9b8d81:: [ebook Transgender equality: a handbook for activists and policymakers by Paisley Currah, Shannon Mitner, Jamison Green, National Gay and Lesbian Task Force (U.S.), National Center for Lesbian Rights (U.S.) First edition 2000 PDF, 492 KB]
11:18:49 From Rita Marsh to Host and Panelists:
Thanks, Jim! 🌹🙏🌹
11:19:15 From Rita Marsh to Host and Panelists:
I'll send her your e-mail address.
11:20:40 From Kelsey Pacha to Everyone:
kelseypachaconsulting.com
11:24:41 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://book4you.org/book/2517778/b5c3c8:: [Trans Bodies, Trans Selves: A Resource for the Transgender Community by Laura Erickson-Schroth, ed. 2014 (1st ed.) PDF, 9.96 MB]
11:27:10 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
,,,(April 2022) 2nd edition forthcoming, Oxford University Press.
11:29:18 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thank you, Leo!
11:29:52 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
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With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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11:31:14 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
See you there, Stan, thanks - today’s should be a great conversation!
11:34:36 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://transstudent.org/gender/::
11:36:13 From Kelsey Pacha to Everyone:
biopsychosocial
11:37:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Educate us!
11:37:09 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
One can be Born with both sex organs
11:37:11 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Has the term “tomboy” been dropped from common usage?
11:37:15 From Alastair Moodie to Everyone:
Your biology doesn't change.
11:37:21 From Clare Hedin to Everyone:
Kelsey this is so rich - thank you!
11:37:36 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
sex assigned at birth is the physical attribute the medical professional assumes
11:38:38 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
I am so exhausted by this conversation. Trying to take in all this information is like learning a new foreign language which I'm not very good at.
I'm interested but overloaded.
11:41:35 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Do what you can, Mary, and thank you for trying... every step matters
11:43:31 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
Steep learning curve for all of us I think. Hang in there!
11:44:10 From Alastair Moodie to Everyone:
That intersex incongruence applies to about 1% and so that is uncommon, leading to the possibility of dysphoria for physical reasons.
11:44:14 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Yes.
11:45:15 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Most people do not see themselves the same way others do. That feeling is a doorway to empathy.
11:45:23 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
I look forward to all being human beings with extraordinary gifts we each bring.
11:45:24 From Suzanne Rosse to Everyone:
How much is known about other cultures who may have approached gender and physicalities associated with gender differently than we do and western culture has? I've heard a little about some Native American cultures having a very different way.
11:46:03 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Suzanne - that’s 2 Spirit, I believe. Kelsey said he would speak about that later today.
11:47:30 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
I was so numb going through puberty, I have very little memory. I can hear the amazing information, communication, distinctions now available that never existed before.
11:49:54 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
I said "he"
11:50:53 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Are there new tests being done for babies knowing all this information?
11:51:26 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
This is you?
11:51:28 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
Left is a Boy. The face Looks like a boy
11:51:34 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Beautiful child!
11:51:49 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
When babies are born they only know gender by looking at their genitals.
11:52:19 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
I see a boy.
11:57:40 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Marketing by gender generates a lot of landfill.
11:59:32 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
How is this presentation related to the goal we celebrate for “Humanity Rising? If we are working for Humanity to rise above the aspects of human interaction that we wish to change as we go through what is being called “Transformation” we need to be able to accept the amazing diversity that is actually a reality among humankind. It would seem that understanding and accepting human diversity would start here! Thank you Kelsey for offering your wisdom.
11:59:43 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RuPaul:: Born: RuPaul Andre Charles
November 17, 1960 San Diego
Drag queen, television judge, recording artist, model, actor, author
Spouse(s) Georges LeBar (m. 2017)
Relatives Cory Booker (cousin)
Website rupaul.com
12:01:19 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Very informative presentation. Well expressed, Kelsey.
12:02:18 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Sue
12:02:21 From Jane Norton to Everyone:
sissy
12:03:54 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I love a man in a kilt… ;)
12:05:37 From Sarita Patel to Everyone:
Me too Shannon! Men in India wear Dhoti’s which are like man saris- super comfortable.
12:05:42 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Think about all the abuse of women at the hand of men over the centuries that has gone unrecognized. It's interesting to me that men now being threatened are all fussy about it. I know this is a biased statement but I notice my own buried anger showing.
12:06:05 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
None of it works but this keeps it all in place.
12:06:15 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
I, a girl, was told I couldn't be a sailor.
12:06:20 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
I don’t mean to be disruptive but I do want to express my gratitude for yesterday’s session on Ukraine with Ray McGovern. I watched it on YouTube.
12:07:53 From Sarita Patel to Everyone:
Was Shirley Chisolm transgender?
12:07:58 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
I grew up with 5 girls in my family. We had to learn to do all kinds of things so we could take care of ourselves rather than needing "a man" to save us. All this is fascinating to me.
12:08:10 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
I never thought about it, but now, being asked to think back, I recall finding one or more “tomboys” to be interesting to me.
12:08:59 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Wow, great trip!!!
12:08:59 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Insightful - Mary.
12:12:16 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
This is so very interesting and important.
12:14:30 From Marie-France Lepage to Everyone:
For an extraordinary example of biological sexual fluidity : ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbion:: - Symbion is a genus of commensal aquatic animals, less than 0.5 mm wide, found living attached to the mouthparts of cold-water lobsters. They have sac-like bodies, and three distinctly different forms in different parts of their two-stage life-cycle. They appear so different from other animals that they were assigned their own, new phylum Cycliophora shortly after they were discovered in 1995.
12:15:54 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
There are fish that change gender at tens years from female to male.
12:16:04 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Hijras - heroes
12:16:29 From Kelsey Pacha to Everyone:
berdache
12:17:31 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:18:03 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
berdache, also called (since 1990) two-spirit, early European designation for American Indians (in Canada called First Nations peoples) who did not conform to Western gender and sexual norms.
berdache | Definition, Examples, Two-Spirit, & Facts | Britannicahttps://www.britannica.com › topic › berdache
12:20:35 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
An amazingly broadening presentation, Kelsey. As “aware” as I see myself, you have given me an updated and clear perspective.
12:20:58 From Sarita Patel to Everyone:
Great presentation Kelsey!!!!
12:21:15 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
You were born, and Divinely Designed, to be JUST as you are. Thank you for bringing YOU!
12:21:19 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Great information - agree so helpful. Thank you!!
12:21:24 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
Life got bigger!
12:21:36 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Kelsey you are amazing! I have found that trans folks have SO much clarity about who they are that they are amazing to be around! Real treasures!
12:21:37 From spozhmay oriya to Everyone:
thanks you so much. thanks for the materials you shared.
12:21:39 From Jane Norton to Everyone:
Incredibly informative- cleared up a lot of confusion on my part
12:21:52 From Marie-France Lepage to Everyone:
Such a thorough presentation. Thank you so much, Kelsey.
12:21:57 From Kelsey Pacha to Everyone:
US Trans Survey: ::https://transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/usts/USTS-Full-Report-Dec17.pdf::
12:22:10 From Sarita Patel to Everyone:
I need Kelsey and Jim in marin county.
Can’t bring this up easily ans one sees the toll it is taking for kids
12:22:31 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
It will be a delight to listen to you 2 more days, Kelsey. Thank you so much.
12:22:33 From Jenny Rook to Everyone:
Brilliant! Mind opening in a vast way. Thank you so much.
12:24:19 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://book4you.org/s/Juno%20Dawson/:: (other ebooks by Juno Dawson)
12:25:48 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Learning to accept different cultures around the world seems to start here. People everywhere have differences. Some differences are more subtle than others. But learning to accept the differences in people is a key step for humanity to rise above the tendency to fear and or hate “Others.”
12:26:08 From Kelsey Pacha to Everyone:
Alok Vaid-Menon
12:26:37 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Would be nice to be able to copy what’s in the chat…
12:27:50 From Sarita Patel to Everyone:
@shannon- yes. We used to be able to copy from the chat.
Jim?
12:27:55 From Mark Harrison to Everyone:
… click the link, then you can copy the URL in your browser, also, maybe use prntscrn
12:29:03 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Mark, thanks - no link to click. Just wanted to copy/paste Alok Vaid-Menon and drop it into a browser. Instead: No flow.
12:29:28 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Right button click, select all, copy
12:29:34 From Sarita Patel to Host and Panelists:
Rigid gender categories - exactly how they described animals and breeding.
12:29:49 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Guess it doesn't copy, just select.
12:29:56 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Kelsey, thank you so much for all you’ve brought to us today.
12:30:18 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Thank you, thank you! See you all tomorrow.
12:30:28 From Debra Kaiser to Host and Panelists:
The awareness shared in this presentation is important. My beautiful son in law Daniel, aka musician Orville Peck, fortunately received love & acceptance to express his innate self since a child. I feel his creative musical expressions offer a positive vehicle helping to honour and celebrate & opportunity to open more minds. The series ‘Euphoria’, with Hunter Schafer, is another vehicle for those who may be willing to look deeper into their understanding. Thank you Kelsey! 🙏🏼💖
12:30:34 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Well done, Jim!!
12:30:35 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:30:45 From Sarita Patel to Everyone:
Thank you so much!! I learned more ! 🌈
12:30:54 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
YAY!!
12:30:54 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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Passcode: 919541
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