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11:03:21 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
Today we celebrate Indivisible! It’s Day 430 of Humanity Rising.
11:03:48 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
May peace and love reach out and hold all our hearts, and Mother Earth caress us gently with Her loving breath. Blessings from the land of the Arapaho now known as Denver Colorado.
11:04:44 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Please remember to include Everyone in your comments here so we can share thoughts together.
11:10:24 From Andrew C. to Everyone:
Love & blessings from Sunrise Ranch in the Rocky Mountain foothills
11:10:52 From Margo King to Host and Panelists:
Hey Rick…I just got in…thx…would love your contact info soon
🌍💜🌎🙏🏼🌻
11:12:15 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
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11:15:41 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Good morning George and John. Good to see you… and Ezra and Doug.
11:16:39 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
LOVE INDIVISIBLE! Strong, truth telling there!
11:18:00 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
The color PURPLE!
11:18:48 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Activate America: ::https://www.activateamerica.vote/::
11:19:48 From Mark Weinstein to Host and Panelists:
John, is it possible to get your email, to share some thoughts with you about yesterday’s “bridging the divide” session?
11:20:21 From Patrickf Farace to Everyone:
You can learn more about Indivisible here > ::https://indivisible.org/about::
11:30:55 From Stanley Pokras to Richard Buckley(Direct Message):
Hi, Rick. Both YouTube and Facebook are working.
11:31:13 From Richard Buckley to Stanley Pokras(Direct Message):
Thank you.
11:34:22 From Stanley Pokras to Richard Buckley(Direct Message):
Yesterday’s recording on YouTube is missing the first 10 - 20 minutes. If I recall right, the recording should be almost 2 hours long since Jim agreed to let the conversation continue beyond 12:30
11:35:54 From Meg Newhouse to Host and Panelists:
I was glad that George alluded to how we work, because I have been so turned off by the angry rhetoric and/or shaming that dominates the fundraising efforts of progressive organizations (and even more Democrat orgs). I believe we must model the kind of behavior we want to see, not what we’ve been subjected to in the worst way by Trump and his followers. What can be done about this (besides, in my case, finding other avenues of financial support). I am completely behind your work and how precarious our democracy is.
11:36:08 From Eleanor LeCain to Everyone:
All great panelists, but ALL white men?? It's 2022...
11:36:46 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
^^^^^agreed Eleanor
11:37:13 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
Eleanor, yes…….
11:38:12 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Grammas, anyone? This is the piece that was not brought forward from the Iroquois…
11:38:14 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Again, discussions about ‘our’ democracy……the democracy that was stolen from the iroquois confederacy
11:39:23 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
matriarchal leaderships within horizontal governance
11:40:10 From Stanley Pokras to Meg Newhouse, Host and Panelists:
Please set your To: to include “Everyone” I’ll copy your message this time, however.
11:40:38 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Permission field: is it ok to do this? Yes. Let’s play bigger, engaged communities. Life. Ties that bond.
11:40:40 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Meg Newhouse to Host and Panelists (11:35 AM)
I was glad that George alluded to how we work, because I have been so turned off by the angry rhetoric and/or shaming that dominates the fundraising efforts of progressive organizations (and even more Democrat orgs). I believe we must model the kind of behavior we want to see, not what we’ve been subjected to in the worst way by Trump and his followers. What can be done about this (besides, in my case, finding other avenues of financial support). I am completely behind your work and how precarious our democracy is.
11:40:42 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
Agreed as well. Can you speak about the diversity within your organizations? I understand that the leadership is male and female.
11:41:27 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Indigenous people represent 5% of the global population and steward 80% of the remaining sensitive ecosystems; yet we have ZERO representation of them here…AFTER 400+ days.
11:41:55 From John Steiner to Mark Weinstein, Host and Panelists:
steiner_king@earthlink.net
11:42:25 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Host and Panelists:
Block Parties in one’s neighborhoods! Give a vision for an outstanding place with commradrie whether “Right or Left” as discussed yesterday.
11:42:31 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
Voting is not just your right, it is also something you owe to your society.
11:42:42 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Ezera and Doug, Directories of the groups doing the work are needed. Not just one… Bunches of directories serving each different constituencies are needed. Our contribution to this process is called OtherNetworks ::Http://othernetworks.org::
11:44:09 From Jane Norton to Everyone:
@ Meg - agree about the shaming and the judgement from the left. I am a solid progressive and I am turned off by the negative fundraising emails and the attacks on others.
11:44:25 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
The ChatPeople send out a daily set of links to all 430 episodes of Humanity Rising. Send me an email to get on the distribution list… Stan@othernetworks.org
11:44:33 From Eleanor LeCain to Everyone:
You are so right, Ezra! We the People is ALL the people. You are a great role model with your partnership with your wife Leah!
11:44:34 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Globally planned, regionally organized and locally executed, PLANETARY actions
11:45:48 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
It requires US to JOIN them ; bring ourselves TOO them
11:46:24 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Very much appreciate each of you. I’ve followed Indivisible for a while and love your work. Ha yes I am a white college educated (more) woman. Love the partnership movement.
11:46:44 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Movement of Movements, as written by Robertson Work
11:47:25 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
Indigenous input is extremely important. I appreciate that there is an OtherNetworks. Thanks to Ezra for his response to the question that I raised before hearing about your networking/coalition efforts. I support that approach.
11:47:42 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Extinction Rebellion is a global action group, why not organize international actions?
11:47:49 From Karen Ball to Everyone:
Are you working with the Poor Peoples Campaign?
11:48:29 From Ezra Levin (Indivisible) to Host and Panelists:
Yes! I’ve been arrested with Rev Barber in DC 🙂
11:48:44 From Ezra Levin (Indivisible) to Everyone:
Yes! I’ve been arrested with Rev Barber in DC 🙂
11:49:21 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Dear panel — organizing requires lists, lists require categories, categories require indexes. The big need is for lots of hubs serving lots of different constiuencies. Please encourage people to help with the categorizing and indexing.
11:50:31 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
America centric motivations are mostly ignorant of the reality in vast populations of people; which is what Extinction Rebellion has built bridges across.
11:52:21 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
Excellent point, Ezra!!
11:52:34 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
How do we then own the media?
11:52:46 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Host and Panelists:
Burning books is becoming ‘normal’ and THAT is dangerous!
11:53:07 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
The way that Democrats write emails is to say “Oh My God” Oh my god… Without including actual issues. We need to get the Democrats to fix their appeals. Donors don’t want to support meeting deadlines.
11:53:14 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Host and Panelists:
Is the guide still around? I can’t find it.
11:53:42 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Movement of Movements
11:53:53 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Is the guide still available? I can’t find it.
11:54:31 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
A global action aggregator that percolates global actions, like 200 MILLION Farmer strike from India
11:55:52 From Patrickf Farace to Everyone:
Hi Kathryn! Here's a link to the original Indivisible guide > ::https://indivisible.org/guide::
11:56:02 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Thank you!
11:56:10 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
From Fridays for Future, to Extinction Rebellion and others globally; unity is borderless
11:56:30 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Egora-ilp.org
11:57:35 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
The news media (one both sides) is owned by people who benefit from confusion and conflict. Nothing sells weapons like hate and discord and the people who make money selling weapons own so much of the media.
11:57:38 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
I wish some people could write relevant songs that go viral.
11:57:59 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Neighbors!
11:58:08 From Patrickf Farace to Everyone:
A few partner orgs that Ezra highlighted earlier > ::https://blackvotersmatterfund.org/::, ::https://tjcoalition.org/::, ::https://mijente.net/::
11:58:12 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Rebel ringers that can do targeted disruptive phone actions against banks and fossil fuel companies, for example.
11:59:32 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
Thank you, Ezra, for all you do, including speaking so eloquently, sensibly, and passionately on saving democracy.
11:59:35 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
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With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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11:59:46 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Neighbourocracy , built upon pre-colonial democratic processes; such as Greek Era Citizens Assembly and Indigenous Consensus
11:59:51 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Thank you for being here, Ezra. So appreciate!
12:00:02 From Patrickf Farace to Everyone:
You can find a local Indivisible group here > ::https://indivisible.org/groups::
12:00:05 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Wonderful panel today
12:00:06 From Patrickf Farace to Everyone:
Thanks y'all!
12:00:26 From Doreen Tanenbaum to Everyone:
Great program….will pass this on. Thank you!
12:02:19 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Why isn’t there more discussion about suppressing the vote - that is SO not American, but we are not talking about it…
12:02:28 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
It will be important to research and organize around understanding who makes money by creating turmoil in society and around the world.
12:02:57 From Meg Newhouse to Host and Panelists:
I can’t stay on, unfortunately, but I am interested in whether anyone is envisioning a democracy that could emerge from the ashes of the current system if we can’t salvage it. There are so many structural problems with democracy, sometimes it doesn’t seem fixable.
12:03:05 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
More than 2 parties are needed - or - EVEN BETTER - a coalition of all representatives.
12:03:31 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
Yes, Shannon, agree.
12:03:59 From Doreen Tanenbaum to Everyone:
GOP has the Heritage org. leading the change and suppression on voting in each state. It is organized and money
12:04:07 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Money is the driver of discord. The people who want to make the most money have achieved ownership of the media and they create fear that causes people and governments to spend money on weapons.
12:04:16 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Connect democracy TOO nature, byway of a global council of watershed grandmothers
12:04:45 From Jane Norton to Everyone:
agree Shannon- most other democracies have coalition governments of multiple parties where they have to work together.
12:05:22 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
These coalitions should be rooted in borderless sustainability
12:06:42 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Hows that saying go…changing the system from within the system is what…?
12:07:07 From Larry Cashion to Host and Panelists:
I have anode about a “Platform Based Election”. I sent to Mr. Sander and he mentioned it briefly once after last Press election.
12:10:17 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
I believe that all major changes in society have happened when the media has gotten behind them. The democratic forces we are trying to support need to build our own media.
12:10:17 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
The easiest thing is to bring yourself to the original people, as until healing is done, the trajectory is irreversible.
12:11:29 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
George… we are in the grips of the weapon makers who have purchased our congress and the media. They make money by selling hate and death.
12:11:53 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Seeing, singing, saying…choirs…
12:11:58 From Doreen Tanenbaum to Everyone:
Heritage Organization is the GOP weapon of choice
12:12:25 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Youth and grandmothers in a globalized ‘sit down’ strike.
12:13:29 From Larry Cashion to Host and Panelists:
Platform Based Election-I no citizen is happy with candidates, then each writes in them self. If that number is higher than any candidate, then we inact a PBE. Electoral vote is out and the American peoples platform becomes what candidates run on and what we then vote for. I is absolutely democratic and absolutly supports every vote counting.
12:13:48 From Jane Norton to Everyone:
I know Democrats who are disheartened and may not vote, let alone be active, because the Democratic Party has acted like authoritarians with the vaccine mandates.
12:14:00 From Jøran Solberg to Everyone:
I don't think viewing the situation as Rep vs Dem is very up to date. No one but the one percent benefits from the technocracy.
12:14:32 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
^^^^^^^ agree Joran.
12:14:35 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
Thanks for your work for a thriving life. Together in collaboration and dialogue, we get to prompt the world back into thriving for ALL.
Have a magical day creating the Grandest Version of Your Greatest Vision!
Kurt Krueger, PHD (Playing Happily Daily), AnotherU, “I err Therefore I Am.” ~ Augustine of Hippo,
OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab
www.SuccessSystemsInternational.net
Going Beyond Your Beyond Youtube Channel: ::https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnRMOnm-PYm40VeTxkSJxyA::
‘We don't address their brains; we address their hearts.’ ~ Mandela
12:15:03 From Larry Cashion to Host and Panelists:
@Joran, that is why a Platform Based Election-PBE will work
12:15:10 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:
If the Ukrainians can lay their lives on the line for the freedoms of speech and a democratic voice why can’t those in the USA. We must work for a Green New Peace & Freedom of Choice campaign. We must also ban nuke weapons now and support ICAN.org.
12:15:34 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
John — please help me to build the lists that can be included in the directories of directories to help build the alternative media that is the movement of movements. But it takes lots of clerical help… Let’s talk. I will try to call you. You noticed that I publish Wikidelphia. We need lots of such facilities in every community.
12:16:29 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:
ICANW.org. It is game over for the world if 100 nuke weapons are deployed.
12:17:00 From Doreen Tanenbaum to Everyone:
On MSNBC Last Word last night they interviewed a Ukraine father who made a phone call to his father in Russia….and his father did not believe what his son in Ukraine was saying. The father is Russia had heard so much propaganda from Russia news that he did not believe his own son. Not much different than the lies being spread on Fox
12:17:28 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
One thing we need to focus on is being champeoned by groups such as Move To Amend to get big money out of elections.
12:17:31 From Kevin he/him Canada to Host and Panelists:
DIEM25, as introduced by Yanis Yarofakis
12:17:39 From John Steiner to Stanley Pokras(Direct Message):
Stanley, do send me an email with what you have in mind and Margo and I will be happy to put out the word and we’ll see what comes back. steiner_king@earthlink.net
12:17:59 From metta flows to Host and Panelists:
This may be of interest to some: Smart Politics, focus here is on developing skillful communication with people of differing beliefs and alternate facts;
12:18:05 From Stanley Pokras to John Steiner(Direct Message):
Ok, Thank you
12:18:05 From metta flows to Host and Panelists:
::https://www.joinsmart.org/::
12:18:05 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
I agree with you both, too!
12:18:12 From Larry Cashion to Host and Panelists:
Putin is a Bully and everyone is standing around letting the little guy get his ass kicked. He will stop if we all stand up and say no. His ego will save him and will justify his “might” with what he accomplished to the point of us saying NO Means NO man!
12:19:35 From Sue Baugh to Host and Panelists:
Preach it, Brother!! Pay more (for gas) to help end the war!
12:19:38 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
The trajectory is that we will be forced to choose our lives, as climate change introduces itself as global domino effects
12:20:06 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
I believe Ukraine situation is revealing Putin for who he is (for those that didn’t see it earlier) - seeing that in my family members that lean right.
12:20:41 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
We will all become desperate to survive , like Ukrainians
12:20:49 From Karmen to Everyone:
Forgive me, the war in Ukraine did not start 15 days ago there is a long history of deceit from the West.
12:21:11 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
^^^^^^^Karmen agreed
12:21:25 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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12:21:26 From Sue Baugh to Host and Panelists:
True, but right now, the war is uniting the world against Putin, who is hurting his own country badly.
12:22:01 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
I wrote a paper on Martin Luther VS Hitler. He was an anti-Semite and not a good example of a good person
12:22:08 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Sue, please send your comments to “Everyone”
12:22:20 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
Luther was more like Putin
12:22:23 From metta flows to Host and Panelists:
Does the panel have any thing to share regarding the fragmentation with so many small groups with differing personal agendas and how to navigate which groups would be most effective to connect with to be effective? Even with indivisible, there seems to be this issue…
12:22:58 From Jøran Solberg to Everyone:
I think the input from Rand Corporation must be taken into consideration while determining who's the aggressor in Ukraine.
12:23:18 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:
The USA and NATO has to stop with its militarism which makes other countries feel threatened. Over 50% of USA is spend on the blood spilled via the military arms dealer profits and more wars over many years. This doesn’t include Lockheed, Raytheon, Boeing etc making fortunes on nuke bombs of global mass extermination. Humanity Rising is helping with education which we must have as the mainstream news media is not doing their job due to corporate owned propaganda.
12:23:32 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
250 MILLION farmers from INDIA went on STRIKE…..250 MILLION
12:23:32 From Sue Baugh to Everyone:
Sorry. Thought I was on everyone. Putin has made the letter “Z” a symbol for support for his war. Make “Z” stand for “Zalenskyy”! Putin will be supporting Ukraine!!
12:23:33 From Celia Anne Browne to Host and Panelists:
🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️
12:24:55 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
I thought Z was for Zorro LOL
12:25:14 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
Please come to the afterchat Panelists, and chatters, and listeners!
12:25:15 From Larry Cashion to Host and Panelists:
We are all of ONE
12:25:22 From Sue Baugh to Everyone:
Zalenskyy is Zorro right now!!
12:25:26 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Wow re: the farmers in India!
12:25:53 From jiyun park to Host and Panelists:
Never underestimate the power of a small group of eight folks to change the world - Lynn McTaggert
As Allie’s in empowering indigenous peoples who are the change in their vastly different tribal communities bridging to other communities, we can identify and support talent.
Circle ⭕️ Consciousness multi-modal capacities. Please and thanks.
Thanks for the invite to engage! Carry on !!
12:25:57 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Thank you for your information, Doug. Appreciate you being here on the panel today!!
12:25:57 From metta flows to Everyone:
Will we allow the Ukrainian people to be the sacrificial lambs in this process?
12:26:06 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Thank you so very much!
12:26:20 From Sue Baugh to Everyone:
This war is a catalyst for a huge shift in world awareness—many other movements will be taking on greater power as well in the wake of the unity.
12:26:26 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm4L2SVd2wA::
12:26:39 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
Thanks so much for this empowering, passionate conversation and for all the great work you are doing!
12:26:41 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
www.activate.vote
12:26:48 From Sue Baugh to Everyone:
Great panelists!!
12:26:59 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
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12:27:09 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Excellent program today! Thank you!!
12:27:16 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Much thanks to the panel and facilitators
12:27:21 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Forgive me, wrong link: Ezra from Indivisible ::https://indivisible.org/:: & Doug from Activate America ::https://www.activateamerica.vote/::
12:27:43 From Noel Moore Moore to Everyone:
I am a member of swing left and indivisible - Thank you
12:27:49 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Thank you, Doug!!! John and George!!
12:27:50 From jiyun park to Host and Panelists:
@karmen thanks - Russian lost millions in European wars?
12:28:10 From metta flows to Everyone:
Thank you!
12:28:12 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHH10jIRJmQ::. Oliver Stone’s produced film on Ukraine.
12:28:13 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
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12:28:23 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
txs Kat for correct links
12:28:27 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
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12:28:30 From mo Stevenson to Everyone:
Thank You Amazing ..informative info ..gives direction for us ALL Love
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