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Humanity Rising Day 337 After Chat – Tuesday October 12, 2021
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00:59:38 Dan Balcaban: remember to mute yourself if you come into the group and if you are not speaking to the group 🙂
01:01:28 Prof J Paul De Vierville: Can we please attempt a Böhm Dialogue method…. Please ! Listen !
01:02:50 Judy H: I just love the idea of being to admit to not knowing.
01:03:24 DL Hamilton - WV: nothing bubbling up for me - I had never heard of him so just here to listen.
01:03:25 Linda Sechrist: Everyone and everything shared today made total sense to me even if I didn’t understand it. I so resonated with the words.
01:03:37 Prof J Paul De Vierville: Thank you Annette
01:04:20 DL Hamilton - WV: what is a Bohm Dialogue method?
01:04:39 Prof J Paul De Vierville: Good Question…. Look around you and participate in the Silence
01:05:11 Charles: Isn"t Bohm dialogue just group practice of dropping separation???
01:06:03 Carolyn Bumgardner: @Judy Leaning INTO the space of surrender into More (the "not knowing") is what offers us awareness ("connectivity") of All that Is. The Space Between of the knowing can have room to be acknowledged when we release the need to think we know. Then we can move as the connectivity of the Knowingness.
01:06:39 Prof J Paul De Vierville: Can Synchronicity….might be sensed as “ Divinity winking”….?
01:06:50 Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net: we would LOVE YOUR PARTICIPATION on this quest…The VISION/slogan for the Peace LAB is “Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace.”
When you have any ideas that could bring peace in any manner, anywhere, anytime, please apply it and then share it ~ with us too… Peace LAB: ::https://OtherNetworks.org/peace_lab::
When we take some responsibility for being the Peace where we are, we are then models for others to follow ~ the ripples begin with us!
Here’s an 15 minute video on a psycho-somatic-spiritual PeaceMaker Meditation. ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo:: Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace. will reverberate throughout your day… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and ‘others.’
Groups are forming together or through teleconference to bring more Peace to our home planet.
Together we fly more easily ~ like the two wings of a bird… :) The Peace LAB practices/programs dramatically reduces violence, recidivism, and wars… We get what we focus upon. Let's share our ideas and expertise.
01:06:50 Judy H: Yes, releasing the need to think we know sounds good!
01:06:51 Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net: Peace LAB:
LABoratory ~ experiments, investigates, researches, and explorations, and some emergent design … ALSO
LAByrinth ~ one winding, irregular, peaceful path in and out!
Be the PeaceMaker radiating Peace.
Peace In Everything
Everything With Peace
01:07:04 Jack Lenchiner: Sound louder please
01:10:03 Jack Lenchiner: Joy brilliant
01:10:58 Linda Sechrist: Me, too. I agree with you.
01:11:08 Prof J Paul De Vierville: Nice. JAM. Session …. Böhm Jam session…!
01:11:47 Stanley Pokras: Please put your email here is you would like to receive our daily summary of Humanity Rising and the after Chat.
01:12:09 Judy H: I love that - moving energy. Projecting happiness. So many people are made miserable by watching the news.
01:16:28 Davidson Akhonya - KENYA: I am in Africa with limited access to info. Thus, I greatly value the discourses here. I run a non-profit working to bolster the resilience of vulnerable communities. Happy to network.
01:16:48 Davidson Akhonya - KENYA: elgon.peace@gmail.com
01:17:17 Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net: 11/11@11am.
The Hummingbird said, on November 11, we get to pray or meditate at least 60 seconds to 60 minutes or more at 11 am, everywhere in the world. Will you also do this?
Would you please share this with friends to get other meditation leaders/yogis, etc. to support this idea whose time has come?
01:17:28 Judy H: Thanks so much for that Clare. Its very helpful.
01:18:02 Carolyn Bumgardner: We are an individuation of a frequency/channel/ energy wave, the 106.me. We build towers along the way to amplify our transmissions and receptivity, like a radio station. The radio waves are always there, we simply have to tune into them (and then amplify what's being transmitted in them). All colors are various frequencies, to which we attune to experience them. The more clearing the clutter and fog from our frequencies, the more clarity of our transmission we can establish. Know self & know the world. Release any sense of separation from The All, and it will be free to be experienced. A similar concept as Tonglen - let me know "this" (The All) and emanate it so others may know it also. Let me know Me so I can know the others of Me.
01:19:10 Carolyn Bumgardner: Yes, Kurt, Beingness is the connective tissue that reveals.
01:19:59 Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net: Science is the current Best Guess.
01:21:35 DL Hamilton - WV: i’m. on your list but interested in Bohm networks - dlhwva@aol.com
01:21:39 Charles: cwconatser@aol.com
01:22:26 Richard Schultz: I am just starting a series of online Bohm dialogues. Just put up my schedule here: ::http://www.wisdomways.net/dialogue::
01:23:04 Richard Schultz: My email wisdomways@gmail.com
01:23:10 diana: Carolyn, I find it fascinating (and agree with) what you have just written. Have you further links, etc?
01:25:06 Joy Gilfilen: Joygilfilen.com is where I will be releasing information about Intentional Change models. joythinks@gmail.com
01:25:25 Carolyn Bumgardner: @Diana - those words are the transmission of my frequency in the moment, allowing Flow to have a channel of expression through Carolyn. Open invitation of further engagement with you further (or anyone else interested). ImmersiveVentures@gmail.com
01:26:35 Judy H: I read about someone who grew up in Kenya who could smell the wind and changes in the weather. he lost this ability once he moved into a town.
01:26:37 Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net: I get to leave for a Re-enculturation meeting in a few minutes. Love to CU return tomorrow. Blessings abound when You’re around. 🙂
01:27:40 Carolyn Bumgardner: @Diana - I can "see" "it", experience it, sense it. Energetic transmission move through me. I am a conduit, energy grid, alchemist, transmuter, interepreter, etc. Oh, my awareness is WE ARE A FLOCK. A flock of various aspects/expressions of Source.
01:28:15 David Stoney: Thanks diana, good question, I think. So what is the status of participatory consciousness in birds (and other non-human animals) compared to somewhat conscious human beings?
01:28:31 Candy Leonard: This is Rupert Sheldrake area
01:29:52 Carolyn Bumgardner: The space OF US.
01:34:47 Albert H. Rowe, AIA, LEED AP: Reminded of Rumi’s field
01:39:31 Carolyn Bumgardner: I interpret Knowing in a different way - not external, rather going within to CONNECT WITH THE KNOWINGNESS YOU ARE. It's not "I know" - it's ALLOWING the Knowingness to show up for you, though you, AS you in each moment. It's showing up as the moment of ALL experiencing Itself in the Field of Knowingness - the field of RESONANCE. To me, knowingness is NOT EQUIVALENT to right. Right is totally interpretive, therefore, varies.
01:41:31 Jack Lenchiner: JLJUSTLOVE
01:41:58 Carolyn Bumgardner: To ALL: I am very interested in continuing this line of expansion. I welcome and invite all interested in taking a further walk on this path, to explore The More, and to establish a field of invitaiton to check out what else would like to have a cup of tea with us, to contact me. Let's join on the playground of curiosity, leaning in to Listening & declaring the Show Me!
01:42:22 Carolyn Bumgardner: Oops - ImmersiveVentures@gmail.com
01:44:17 Judy H: I've met David Peat. He was so inspiring.
01:48:28 DL Hamilton - WV: what is he saying? Platonists?
01:50:46 DL Hamilton - WV: her saying Platonic answered that!
01:54:20 Michael Weaver: Big Yes!
01:55:45 Carolyn Bumgardner: And what do we mean by "nothing". It's "no thing"... which is external/matter. The Source/ Universe would be the originator of the "things" so technically it would be "no- thing-ness."
01:57:22 Carolyn Bumgardner: Yes, Jack! We are aspects of universe experiencing a matter expression, yet we remain the All.
02:00:21 Carolyn Bumgardner: WE at creating OUR awareness of the concept of universe in every perception of a moment. This is a consciousness experience. Consciousness experiencing Itself in various forms (matter). Everything remains (in) Wholeness, even when it's perceiving an individual aspect in the moment (meaning a human, tree, rock, etc). Knowing that is the awareness of that continuum of connectivity as the All.
02:01:09 Carolyn Bumgardner: The beginning is merely what we assign to the meaning of the matter.
02:01:23 Carolyn Bumgardner: What do we make things mean through the lens of perception?
02:08:43 Annette Shaked: I have a top of the hour commitment and will have to drop off - Thanks
02:09:02 Carolyn Bumgardner: That's why the expressions of us are here now, Stan. For the matter of course it to be able to experience itself in the wakefulness (rather than "death"... not in the matter expression).
02:10:14 Carolyn Bumgardner: the concept of opposite is how we can know ourselves
02:11:25 Carolyn Bumgardner: INTERPRETATION is what's limiting. Language is what we make of it.
02:13:11 Richard Schultz: bye everyone. Thanks for the conversation. Enjoyed the perspectives.
02:14:42 DL Hamilton - WV: nothing to say; just new rabbit hole to explore
02:14:44 Carolyn Bumgardner: That's why we're being called to exchange in energetic language at this time.
02:15:21 David Stoney: Wholeness and non-duality is great, though difficult to talk about, but I become a focused dualist when I’m driving. I pray that you do too…
02:16:19 DL Hamilton - WV: dang - he sounds like Bill Clinton (audibly - not in substance!)
02:16:44 Nan: great conversation, thanks everyone! I have to leave
02:16:48 Carolyn Bumgardner: @Diana Your constant smile is so warm and contagious. Thank you for expressing your authenticity! I'm grateful for your Presence & representation.
02:17:49 diana: Thank you, Carolyn - I love it here!!!
02:18:13 Carolyn Bumgardner: Representing the Knowing. That goes beyond the matter experience. Consciousness isn't an individual experience.
02:18:56 Carolyn Bumgardner: Separateness is only in perception.
02:20:15 Carolyn Bumgardner: When we attempt to interpret as the human we dilute the infinite wisdom. It's in Allowing constant connection... that's where consciousness lies... is streaming, not a destination.
02:20:49 Carolyn Bumgardner: Releasing states. Simply Being an aspect of the Isness.
02:21:48 DL Hamilton - WV: what is best book for best intro to Bohm?
02:22:40 David Stoney: I love it. When driving I like to stay in harmony!
02:25:33 David Stoney: When and where is Ray Moody speaking? Ray was a student at the medical school I taught at…
02:26:46 Carolyn Bumgardner: The deliberate intention of aligning with the highest expression of the me and the perceived other dancing as infinite.
02:27:29 Carolyn Bumgardner: Reap what you sow. Sow openness to The More, to showing up as all is intended to Be in the matter.
02:27:48 Bing Gong: Dropping off. Thanks for letting me listen in to this interesting conversation
02:28:35 Carolyn Bumgardner: Thanks for offering this field for us, Stan. Great exchange. Grateful to all presencing.
02:28:41 Albert H. Rowe, AIA, LEED AP: Thank you 🙏
02:30:35 Carolyn Bumgardner: Appreciate your expression being here, Jack!
02:31:23 David Stoney: One to one, again and again. Here is what Stan Grof said Ram Dass was told by his guru:
“The world is absolutely perfect, including your own dissatisfaction with it, and everything you are trying to do to change it.”
02:34:23 Michael Weaver: Michael@mythandmind.com } Michael Weaver
02:34:35 Michael Weaver: If you are collecting emails :)
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