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Humanity Rising Day 258 Chat Page – Friday May 28, 2021
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Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:03 AM)
Bless you as we rise through the grief, together. Deep love and compassion will help us see the Other is part of Me - the Greater You we are each a part of.
Hilary Van Welter to Panelists and Attendees (11:05 AM)
Lovely to see you my sister Trickster!
Dinesh N to Panelists and Attendees (11:07 AM)
Namaste from India.
Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:08 AM)
Very, very sadly, there is a grief worse than loosing a child... It's loosing a child to suicide... And it's not even my own child that sticks in my mind. Our friends had this happen to them and I have felt sad over it for these many six or seven years now... This affects me more than loosing my own mom to coved last April.
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:11 AM)
Dear Stan, may I hold you in your grief. My own son took his life at 28 several decades ago. For us it was an important act. It led to the resolution of 4,500 years of karma. One never knows…. ,<3
Margot Borden to Panelists and Attendees (11:16 AM)
Thank you Jahidi, That was beautiful and soothing.
Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:16 AM)
Yes, Kathryn. I've heard you speak of this. It's a mind-bending story about the wonders of time and reality... an important resolution... wow.
Dinesh N to Panelists and Attendees (11:17 AM)
Om Shanti Stan
Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees (11:17 AM)
Thanks, Jahidi! What does your name mean?
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:21 AM)
Seth is great.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:24 AM)
What AMAZING words!! A gift!! Thank you!!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:24 AM)
Thank you, Bert, for surviving your “training” for now. Your experience and wisdom is so very needed now. Neale Walsh’s words hold great gifts.
Jahidi Deen to Panelists and Attendees (11:25 AM)
Thank you Margot and Richard! A gift to be present with all of you.
Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (11:25 AM)
Stanley and Kathryn, our chat community is a space to harbor our common humanity both joys and sorrows.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:26 AM)
(Seth and Neale Donald Walsh - part of my learning path too) Love to you Stanley xxxxx And love to you Kathryn too - your wisdom is always brilliant and - obviously stems from your experiences xxxxx
And Leo - there to add your wisdom too. We grow, don't we. we evolve <3 <3 <3
We LOVE!!!
Jane Norton to Panelists and Attendees (11:28 AM)
Bert, can you share a link to the Remembrances? Thank you!
Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (11:28 AM)
Amen, Diane.
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:29 AM)
Yes, Jane, good ask!! Please Bert, do you have a link?
MOM delivers the things we need, though we know it not.
Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:32 AM)
It's certainly true, Leo, our community here on the Chats is a gift from both the innovation of technology and the pandemic... thank you, Kathryn, Diane, Shannon and all of the people who have found each other here.
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (11:33 AM)
The very day my father passed on, my favorite author (at the time) Neale D. Walsch’s book ~ HOME WITH GOD: In a Life that Never Ends. My wife intuitively bought the book. It resonated clearly in my heart and made full sense in my head. Let me know how you feel about it.
Check out Graceful Passages too: ::https://www.wisdomoftheworld.com/offerings/graceful-passages/::
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:33 AM)
thank you, Stan, for the invitation. The AfterChat has been a healing “place”
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:34 AM)
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Rain Martin to Panelists and Attendees (11:35 AM)
<3
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:36 AM)
The chat group is precious indeed!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:36 AM)
I lost my son at birth… I gave him to God. He was given back to me by MOM.
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:37 AM)
What a great question!!!
Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:39 AM)
That advice, that I can mention my friends' daughter may not be hurtful, it can be just a remainder that I share their loss. But they already know that... So it's still somewhat confusing.
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:39 AM)
“We help ourselves by helping others.” Kathryn Davino
KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Panelists and Attendees (11:39 AM)
Thank you to each of you and these beautiful shares, and the gifts you gave through your grief. In Gratitude.
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:40 AM)
Stan, you might ask them. There can be a fear that the loved one will be forgotten, so being willing to talk about that person might be quite a precious gift. ask..
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:43 AM)
Cassie visits you with MOM - the Magic in Ordinary Moments …Dear Al, thank you for sharing her.
Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:44 AM)
I have had this conversation with the father... It's much harder for me to even think about speaking with the mother...
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:45 AM)
If you cannot speak, write… allow the words and feelings to be heard, when you’re ready - or when it’s right…
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:47 AM)
Stan, express your own feelings and concern and ask her to help you know best how to support her.
Such great stories and wise learning!!!
Debra Kaiser to Panelists and Attendees (11:51 AM)
My dear cousin Karen (my sister), is in these very moments, moving through her final stage of transition. I mention in honour of her. I’ve welcomed the essence of Karen into this loving sacred space with us today. She has lived well her precious six decades with us. Blessings and love to all. xx
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:51 AM)
Kathryn to Stan - wisdom!! The best way. Show your own pain/worries/fears first. It opens a door for others to feel free(er). Wonderful!!
Dinesh N to Panelists and Attendees (11:52 AM)
how can we connect with Bert Farr after the session
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:53 AM)
Dear Debra, Holding you as you watch your sister transition. It is a liminal space, very precious.
Debra Kaiser to Panelists and Attendees (11:54 AM)
Indeed it is a precious liminal space Kathryn. xx
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:56 AM)
The Institute for Spiritual Development - looks amazing!! (Helpful?) ::https://www.isd-dc.org/::
Diana Friedell to Panelists and Attendees (11:57 AM)
Also- isdoneonta.org
www.isdoneonta.org
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (11:59 AM)
Love to have your list… email?
Patriciafaye Marshall to Panelists and Attendees (12:01 PM)
Emotional Freedom Technique (tapping) is one of the things in my toolkit.
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:04 PM)
TTT Traumatic Tapping Technique of Ulf Sandstrom works wonders, survivors of Rwanda Genocide, Congo’s child soldiers, etc. Come to the AfterChat I can share it with you in the chat. Ulf is a great soul and has been on HR twice. :)
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)
Switching
2 Be Unbounded
This is a simple, powerful and effective way to change old habit patterns that adversely affect our life. It uses all the essential elements for learning / un-learning: physical, mental, metaphysical/spiritual; audio, visual, kinetic.
We literally start to consciously control our life when we practice Switching. The more we use Switching, the more power we exert in our life, the more loving we may be with others. Let’s start practicing Switching!
Some people have used it for reversing drinking and PTSD!
For the How to’s see:
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:07 PM)
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With love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)
Earliest sign of civilization: a broken femur that has healed is evidence that another person has taken time to stay with the fallen, has bound up the wound, has carried the person to safety and has tended them through recovery.
“Helping someone else through difficulty is where civilization starts,” Margaret Mead said, “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; For, indeed, that's all who ever have.”
Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (12:09 PM)
Funerals: one of the great rituals by which humanity expresses our compassion.
Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees (12:09 PM)
Lori, do you have a book? Training course for chaplains?
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:09 PM)
I need to leave - many blessings everyone!!!
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)
Love you Kathryn
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)
blessings!
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:11 PM)
Thank you, Kathryn.
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)
Tears are not the pain; they are a release of the pain. Gaia transmutes the pain in your tears…
breathe…
Diana Friedell to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)
Yes, Shannon, thank you for that point!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:17 PM)
Please consider coming to the AfterChat after you’re finished here. The link is/will be posted here in the chat.
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:18 PM)
You can join the After Chat here:
Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)
thank you, Stan.
what you resist persists. Do not fear; flow! Let your tears flow too.
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:20 PM)
Where is the email for the Stress Reducers?
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:20 PM)
And the trigger is often the spark of life. follow it. No fear (as you say Shannon)
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)
that’s why it is customary to bring food to the bereaved.
Rain Martin to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)
Brilliant point thank you Bert Farr
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:22 PM)
time, joy and love - the only remedies for grief. Thank you Bert.
Diana Friedell to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)
Diana- ::https://www.dianafriedell.com/::
Ronnie Botwinick Londner, M.Ed to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)
ronlondner@gmail.com I'll send materials to anyone who wishes.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)
Grief. Carry it with you. It's part of life - the same river that carries joy, carries grief. No dark without light. No joy without grief. We need it!!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)
there IS no word to describe the grief of the loss of a child - WE are supposed to die first1
KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
Thank you again for these shares and understandings. Thank you for your transparency, too. My heart is full and have shed many tears throughout today’s conversation. In Gratitude.
MEPI Kenya to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
Following you from Kenya in Africa. Thanks for the presentations and opeining up into your personal lives. I live in a region of the country that has had cycles of violent conflicts pitying one tribal community against others. We have lots of people grieving due to loss of property and loved ones during these violent combats. Let's keep the sharings flowing:) A problem shared is half solved!
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
What a lovely ending - start a garden!!!!!
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)
What do you think of the idea of planting trees for the number of years your child/loved one would have achieved? It could be done through iGiveTrees.org, or TreeSisters.org or Yourself.
Diana Friedell to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)
We create Common Ground through Our Heart Gardens.
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:26 PM)
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We have an email list for ChatPeople where we send a daily message that points to all of the HR recordings and Chats.
Write to me to be added to the list.
-- stan@communitymagic.org
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Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)
Yes, MEPI, war trauma is a particular kind of grief… We need to address that in particular. I share compassion with you and your community
Jane Norton to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
thanks you everyone on the panel for a an extraordinary session!
Diana Friedell to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
Thank you Paula and everyone for attending
MEPI Kenya to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
Let's keep love and compassion flowing. Love is the most powerful weapon. No wonder Jesus recommended we use it against our 'enemies'. It works wonders. MEPI Kenya (elgon.peace@gmail.com)
Diana Friedell to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
Thank you for everyone’s wisdom
Hilary Van Welter to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
Wonderful session - thank you
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
So much grief has walked the lives of humanity throughout our existence. You’d think we’d be better at it - practice doesn’t make perfect in this case, but it does open us up to help us weave closer together.
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
Thank you all for your abounding love you’ve shared… :)
KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
Thank you so much again, and yes thank you, Jim, always. So deep and moving. I was reflected on many beautiful friends and family who have passed and are so in my heart, too. Blessings to each of you, so very grateful.
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
Yes, George Floyd was killed on Memorial Day, last year (a different calendar than this year)
Paula Petry to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)
A Mother’s Courage to Awaken …. My journey through grief … Please share with anyone who can benefit …
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)
What an amazing way to learn Jim!!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)
Paula, thank you, do you have a link?
Paula Petry to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)
Paulapetry.com
or Amazon ..
KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)
Yes thanks again in honor of so many loved ones hearing us say hello, I love you, today.
Richard Buckley to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)
Up coming course with Kate Raworth ::https://www.ubiquityuniversity.org/courses/foundations-of-doughnut-economics-with-kate-raworth/::
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)
Thank you Everyone xxx
Debra Kaiser to Panelists and Attendees (12:35 PM)
We welcome all of you into the AfterChat to share more with us…
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:35 PM)
You can join the After Chat here:
Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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