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Humanity Rising Day 227 Chat Page – Thursday April 15, 2021
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rajinder to Panelists and Attendees (11:03 AM)
hello everyone 👋
Diane Carol Mark to Panelists and Attendees (11:04 AM)
John Naisbett died? Ahh
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:04 AM)
Yes, I remember him…
Diane Carol Mark to Panelists and Attendees (11:04 AM)
He was a personal friend of Dr Jim? Wow
His books were fantastic
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:06 AM)
The passing of a time…
Stan Pokras to All panelists and other attendees (11:07 AM)
Good day... #228 Yes!!!
Oops! It's really Day 227
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:19 AM)
Beautiful imagery
Avon Mattison to Panelists and Attendees (11:24 AM)
Osprey, your multifaceted perspective & consistent direct focused frontline action to restore living in sacred relationship with Mother Earth & to wake up
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:25 AM)
Visibilise a Wall of Women. wonderful words and imagery too
A balanced relationship between the indigenous people and the forests themselves
Stan Pokras to All panelists and other attendees (11:27 AM)
Yes, the participation and leadership of women in every aspect of life is absolutely essential.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:28 AM)
YES!! Everything has a spirit - trees and plants as well as people and animals!!
Gareth Manning to Panelists and Attendees (11:31 AM)
This is so important. I’m very grateful to Ms. Osprey for her openness, honesty, strength, and love. Have another meeting. Looking forward to the recording later.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:34 AM)
As said in that movie, this is a special time. The trouble that began when Europeans went over to North America (and Africa actually), is now coming to a head. It's our responsibility as stewards of the planet, to make sure we change our behaviour. We are so lucky to be alive!!
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (11:38 AM)
Amongst our fights in Minnesota, we’re trying to stop Line 3….
Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees (11:38 AM)
Osprey visioned into being a germinal assembly of 100 women, where the more privileged listened to the less privileged, including the amazing Casey Camp of the Ponca Nation. Funded by the Turner Foundation, it saw Ted Turner, billionaire, saying that no men should be elected to office for the next fifty years, and that then, there would probably be no wars and all would be educated.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:40 AM)
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (11:40 AM)
As mentioned the abuse of power/militarization/occupation of sacrifice zones in Minneapolis is also evident up north along the pipeline. The PowersThatBe use force to do what they want, irrespective of human rights.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:41 AM)
Big scale yes but - each individual person can choose where they put their money and what they buy!! We CAN change stuff!!!
Jen Forti to Panelists and Attendees (11:41 AM)
The military industrial complex alone is probably the biggest hurdle to cutting its ties with fossil fuels
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:43 AM)
Yes Jen. Stop weapons. Stop wars. OR.... Start helpfulness. Start being kind - de-escalate arguments
Ina Albert to Panelists and Attendees (11:45 AM)
Ina Albert in Montana. What do we do with forests that surround communities threatened by forest fires every year?
Stan Pokras to All panelists and other attendees (11:45 AM)
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About the Crisis of DEMOCRACY, LAW, Money and the Environment:
The Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund (CELDF) is building a movement for Community Rights and the Rights of Nature to advance democratic, economic, social, and environmental rights – building upward from the grassroots to the state, federal, and international level.
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THE MOST IMPORTANT ENVIRONMENTAL BOOK SINCE SILENT SPRING!!!
How Wealth Rules the World - the book:
CELDEF published a book that reveals the most important environmental and legal blockages to democracy and the rights of communities and nature by Ben G. Price "How Wealth Rules the World" It describes how the U.S. Supreme Court has been and still is what I call "a choir for the Theology of Property."
...addressing climate justice starts here!!!
-- Stan P
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Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:47 AM)
Thanks Stan
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:48 AM)
And in answer to Ina - I think that if we stop doing all the bad stuff we will have chance to work on how to save forests burning!!
Tiffany Stone to Panelists and Attendees (11:48 AM)
No matter how you feel about vaccines, the fact that people getting them are test subjects I feel is unacceptable. I guess the only thing good about that is that they haven’t been able to test them on as many animals. But via a doctor I know who has the gotten the vaccine, normally you would never get one before it’s been tested for a minimum of 3 years
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:48 AM)
Plant justice; tree justice!!
Ocean justice
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)
Military training attacks the feminine/feeling as a way of developing the capacity to kill. Derek Chauvin was trained in the military police, had a couple deployments. He never shows any emotion. Domestic violence appears connected with mass killers and those militarized.
Tiffany Stone to Panelists and Attendees (11:50 AM)
Informed consent has always been lacking when it comes to vaccines
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:53 AM)
Brilliant, Osprey
Jen Forti to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)
CELDF is doing the work of giving rights to nature.
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)
What we are learning about trees indicates that the ‘hub’ tress - the old growth need to be protected. “Harvesting’ trees should be done using young trees and diseased trees - that actually helps manage the forest.
Jen Forti to Panelists and Attendees (11:56 AM)
Are they connected at all with WECAN??
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:56 AM)
Yes Jen, they are doing excellent work.
Jen Forti to Panelists and Attendees (11:57 AM)
Just want to make sure WECAN knows about them!
YES!!
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:57 AM)
Stan Pokras to All panelists and other attendees (11:58 AM)
Working class people of all stripes deserve protection from the extractive practices of wealthy industrialists. Nature needs to have its rights protected... Even the residents of our country need to have their rights protected from big corporations.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:59 AM)
People, plants, trees, oceans, animals - all of life needs to be protected from corporations!!
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:00 PM)
We ARE nature!! Yes. When will we learn? (Well, dome of us do - some of us join with indigenous nations. times are changing!! Good!!)
- some (not dome)
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:01 PM)
In Minneapolis, we drink the Mississippi. Our excretions return there, post treatment. So we are walking tributaries of the river, complete with a body-specific biome of other beings.
Chiara MEGIGHIAN to Panelists and Attendees (12:01 PM)
Thank you for this wonderful session! So energizing🙏🏼❤️
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:02 PM)
FYI: our epic trial on the killing of George Floyd just concluded. Closing arguments Monday.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:03 PM)
Thanks for the info Amy
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:04 PM)
What word can we use to avoid that artificial distinction between human and nature?
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:04 PM)
Great question - Amy!
Stan Pokras to All panelists and other attendees (12:05 PM)
The notion of property.... right Jim. This concept is addressed in DETAIL in the book: How Wealth Rules the World." This book is the key to understanding the current difficulty with the climate issue. It's how the legal system treats property that is the key. CELDF's book lays this out in detail.
Kurt Krueger to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)
Just yesterday, I was walking up the hill and I was agin thinking of communing with the plants. I asked the plants, :”how can I help?” They said, “You are, Be and simply listen!”
And, coincidently, on Humanity Rising Day 226 --
Communicating with Animals: A Dialogue with Pea Horsley
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:07 PM)
Thank you!
Avon Mattison to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)
the restoration of Indigenous Wisdom and way living in sacred relationship with Nature is essential & urgent. “All our relations”
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)
Here’s a reflection/ode that speaks of the relatives and our trial: ::https://www.healingourcity.org/ode-to-a-tragic-unknowing::
Tiffany Stone to Panelists and Attendees (12:09 PM)
Yes, we come from the stars...🌌
Kurt Krueger to Panelists and Attendees (12:09 PM)
Two sources for the extreme value Indigenous wisdom and power of the Feminine side. SACRED INSTRUCTIONS by Sherri Mitchell. THE ABSOLUTE BEST BOOK ON BLENDING INDIGENOUS WISDOM FOR LIVING THE LIFE WE WERE ALL MEANT TO LEAD - one of compassion and peace. Using Science, Regenerative agriculture, Feminine/Masculine, Spirituality, and Societal change...
ANOTHER connector with nature is The Four Sacred Gifts, a great book by an indigenous elder, Anita Sanchez - former panelist on Humanity Rising.
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:11 PM)
Here’s a podcast that brings into reality the impact of climate change on flordia: Here are links to the podcast Spencer Glendon participated in. it's very much worth hearing, and not all that pessimistic. Enjoy, if you're so inclined.
Stan Pokras to All panelists and other attendees (12:11 PM)
The land grab and the extraction of wealth by those in power got a big boost in the 1400's under the Doctrine of Discovery. It's the underlying problem behind the Theology of Property of which the U.S. Supreme Court is the choir...
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)
yes - stanley!
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)
Where can we find this video?
rajinder to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)
how do we contact osprey?
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)
Fantastic work!!! Go Osprey Go!! In solidarity: Taos Environmental Film Festival April 22 thru April 25. free on-line films, free 3 day Environment & Peace Conference & Earth Day Poetry on April 22. Info: www.taoseff.org
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)
I saw the recently departed LaDonna Brave Bull Allard — of Standing Rock in witness with you at the UN. On the frontlines at the end of her life!
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)
Also in Ecuador. Chevron has reneged on a billion dollar payment in compensation for oil spills and more - US judges bending the law so as to keep the (American) lawyer under house arrest for two years
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)
Also, we need to support the Treaty for the Abolition of Nuclear Weapons which went into action on January 22, 2021. www.icanw.org
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:19 PM)
YES Jean!!!
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)
Regarding TPNW: Current US legislation, the “Investing in Cures Before Missiles” ICBM Act would save up to $96 billion by halting development of a new ICBM. Contact your federal representative and senators! (::https://www.psr.org/blog/time-for-congress-to-re-think-security/::)
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)
This is an emergency!! Extinction Rebellion!!!
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)
It is bizarre that “the oil companies” do not self identify as human beings in the Earth with families and future generations.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:22 PM)
Pretty much no change!! Oh dear!!
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)
Boy is she right. companies claim being climate friendly, but politically support people who will NOT support climate regulation. Coke etc.
Marilyn - Findhorn to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)
thanks for your insights, deep knowledge re extraction - I was just with Vandana Shiva earlier today - these offsets she calls "climate indulgences"
rajinder to Panelists and Attendees (12:24 PM)
the speaker unstated the potential of the next now future. the economic model can be changed by a new economic model that is regenerative. a solution is coming...
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:24 PM)
That's why HR has been good - giving us doughnut economics and more. Change from the top as well as the bottom!! Changes big and small
Stan Pokras to All panelists and other attendees (12:24 PM)
The environmental movement has derided a warning that Michael Moore produced. But the film "Planet of the Humans" is a sad but important warning about the failure of the current climate approach.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
Indeed - 'offsets' - a silly game/an illusion
rajinder to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
offset is a word that is an economic model... perhaps we need an offset* that is carbon, biodiversity as resilience enabling
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
Vandana’s book -“Soil Not Oil” very clearly explains that the Carbon taxes are a sub economy for the wealth, subverting any change
rajinder to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
offset- tradeoff just words that need new definitions
Stan Pokras to All panelists and other attendees (12:26 PM)
The film has been censored by YouTube and other streaming services. But everyone needs to see it. Planet of the Humans... look for it, pay for it. It's important!!!
Marilyn - Findhorn to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)
@Kala - yes re Soil not Oil revelation of subversions. How can we clone Osprey??
rajinder to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)
and new relative integral economic models
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)
Arrogance and lack of responsibility!! One of the first words Osprey mentioned
rajinder to Panelists and Attendees (12:27 PM)
well said Jim,
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:27 PM)
There are soooo many of us who think the alternative way. When will we unite and carry some weight?
rajinder to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
we are all innocent of our ignorance and consciousness increasing helps. so is this conversation today and the near future discussions
carroy Ferguson to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
As President of the Association for Humanistic Psychology, I made sure that AHP joined The Medical Society Consortium On Climate & Health, which advocates on the Hill. It is just one attempt to change Consciousness.
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
Good work, Cut!
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
Can you please report that website?
rajinder to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
+1 @diane, we already and growing
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
And progress!!
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
where can we find the information on the upcoming Climate Conference in DC
Marilyn - Findhorn to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
Thanks Osprey for brilliant dose of reality.
Stan Pokras to All panelists and other attendees (12:29 PM)
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..oOo..
With love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
Website please
Diane Sue to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
Thank you Osprey!!
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
Thank you Osprey for all your work and wisdom power!
rajinder to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
thank you osprey for your work and insight. help is on its way.
Diane Sue to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
Thanks for all of your inspirational work, Osprey!
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:31 PM)
Your relatives thank you, Osprey!
KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:31 PM)
THANK YOU!!!
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