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Humanity Rising Day 1129 After Chat   –   Friday May 23, 2025

Chat from AfterChat Zoom from HR Day 1129:

aka ChatPeople Chat



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00:13:46    Mary Thorp_WV (she/her):    Is Stan here? Is he alright?

00:14:08    Mary Thorp_WV (she/her):    Hi Stan. I see you!!!

00:14:31    Dominique Mazeaud:    Stan, HELP, instead of the mute sign, I have Audio with a red triangle that does not allow me to unmute?

00:14:53    Stanley Pokras:    This is the Afterchat for DAY 1129

00:15:26    Paul Hillery:    But we don't share the same air.  Some breathe poison from factories and in this NOW TIME are haveing their medical treatments cut.

00:16:36    Alison Smith Driscoll:    Yes great gratitude for nature and connecting to the elements & each other in our humanity - the healing we gave birth for & which will carry us through this dark age into the golden age.

00:17:03    Aida:    OMG ! You had dental surgery?  Me too

00:18:19    Paul Hillery:    SHANNON, my son broke his leg skiing and worked out on his crutches and now has super-powerful shoulders.

00:20:35    Charry Stover:    And how is Stan?

00:22:26    Shannon McArthur:    Replying to "But we don't share..."

The atmosphere wraps around the entire Earth, Paul. We do all share the same air. Imagine it like someone peeing in the ocean - the next person might swim through a warm spot, but it's still part of the ocean.

00:22:58    Shannon McArthur:    Replying to "OMG ! You had dent..."

What!?!! Wow; I hope you're doing good! Bless you, my friend!

00:22:59    Rick Botelho:    How might we develop a mega-spearhead social media strategy to unravel the deep state of alt-right media neo-terrorism inducing the cult trance of Deranged Trump Mass Psychosis? https://equitymoonshot.substack.com/p/how-might-we-chant-anti-royalist-a1a

00:24:17    Shannon McArthur:    Replying to "SHANNON, my son br..."

You have to look at your problems as challenges - how can you make this a blessing instead?  Good for your son! I'm sure his beloved is very grateful!

00:24:28    Dominique Mazeaud:    Stan, do you have any suggestion for the question I posed earlier re my sound

00:24:37    Mary Thorp_WV (she/her):    The indigenous peoples have been calling/waiting for this for generations.

What do they say of it?

Arkan Lushwala would be a great wisdom keeper to hear from (Lynne Twist’s friend)

00:25:00    Shannon McArthur:    Replying to "And how is Stan?"

Stan is with us, and will answer for himself, probably when Jim leaves, or maybe next!!

00:25:39    Aida:    This seems part of how we collect the dots  that Jim was talking about

00:26:48    Paul Hillery:    ALLOWING? What power does the rest of the world have across the Atlantic and Pacific as the US restructured the world after WWII, which the US entered only 3 years after it began. Isn't this end of a yuga why the UAPs came to see what we are about.

00:29:10    Alison Smith Driscoll:    To Jack’s second question about human beings, read Dr. Scott  Peck’s book PEOPLE OF THE LIE, in which he explores the nature of evil - written decades ago but a clear and sensitive exploration of many dimensions.

00:30:52    Dawn Mazzone:    Yes, know People of the Lie. Thanks for mentioning, Alison Smith Driscoll.

00:31:23    Mary Thorp_WV (she/her):    I know Joel!!!

00:32:36    Jim Garrison:    https://www.stateoftheworld.forum

00:33:06    Mary Thorp_WV (she/her):    ❤️💋❤️

00:34:05    Jack Strasburg:    Cool comment Stan

00:34:43    Amanda Rouse:    The humans running with greed have extreme momentum, with the cult of celebrity and material commerce. Those greed runners are so confused and damaged by oppression. "Evil" is another word for a treasured and highly manipulated and abused human. We must start momentum on the path of healing within ourselves and listening with earth, with the relationship healing with indigenous peoples. Create our own momentum of peace and wholeness, healing with earth. Recommend the new SAND film The Eternal Song. ❤️

00:36:45    Shannon McArthur:    Replying to "The humans running..."

I need to see that movie!

00:38:23    Alison Smith Driscoll:    YES! Jim is spot on that we can rationalize anything. There is no end to our  potential for egotism/self-righteousness.

00:39:03    Aida:    The power of grandchildren!

00:41:03    Amanda Rouse:    Replying to "The humans running w…"

science and non-duality: SAND

00:41:18    Craig McManus:    We could learn something from ants. From David Attenborough Fans: "Once, waking up in nature early in the morning, I noticed something surprising. Several dozen ants had fallen into a five-liter bottle of water that had been left open the night before. They waved chaotically in the transparent water, as if each one was fighting for its life.

At first, it seemed to me that they were drowning each other, saving themselves at the cost of the death of others.

This thought made me repulsed, and I turned away, deciding not to intervene.

However, after two hours, curiosity got the better of me, and I looked in the bottle again.

My astonishment knew no limits: the ants were alive! Furthermore, they had formed a true living island, a pyramid, in which some were supported by others, staying afloat like an entire colony.

00:41:33    Shannon McArthur:    Replying to "The humans running..."

A friend of mine does tech-support for them. They're a great group!

00:41:53    Craig McManus:    I  held my breath and began to observe. Those at the bottom were actually submerged in the water, but not forever. After a while, they were replaced by ants from the upper layer, which voluntarily descended. Those who were tired went up, without hurrying, without pushing the others.

Nobody tried to save themselves first. On the contrary, each one made an effort to go where it was most difficult. This coordinated system of mutual aid touched me to my core.

I couldn't resist. I found a spoon that easily passed through the neck of the bottle and carefully inserted it. Seeing salvation, the ants began to come out one by one, without generating even a drop of panic.

Everything was going well, until one of them, weakened, slipped back into the water, without reaching the edge.

And then something happened that I will remember all my life.

The last ant, almost outside, suddenly turned back. He came down, as if to say: "Hold on, brother, I won't leave you!"

00:42:22    Craig McManus:    She dove into the water, clinging tightly to the drowning one, but she couldn't pull him out on her own. I couldn't resist, I brought the spoon closer, and then they both came out, alive, together.

This episode moved me more than any movie or book about friendship and sacrifice. I felt a storm of emotions: first, condemnation, for having taken the ants for insensitive beings; then, amazement at his resistance; admiration for his discipline and brave sacrifice... And in the end, shame.

Shame on humans. For us. Because of indifference, because of how we lose each other in pursuit of benefits, because of how rare it is that someone comes back to save the weak. We build walls, instead of creating living bridges.

If ants, small creatures, are capable of such coordination and selflessness, why are we humans so often deaf to the suffering of others?

That day I understood one thing: true strength is in unity. And if someone still doesn't know how to live correctly, let them learn from the ants

00:44:19    Shannon McArthur:    Craig, that needs to be shared more widely than here!

00:44:32    Paul Hillery:    My first grandchild, a daughter was born on Good Friday.  We're not a traditionally religious family (which why I went more ot my Irish Druid roots)

00:44:40    Craig McManus:    yes I shared on facebook

00:45:31    Dawn Mazzone:    Replying to "yes I shared on face..."

I saw it! Its getting around! Great lesson to learn from Nature!

00:46:07    Shannon McArthur:    Replying to "yes I shared on fa..."

I'd like to add it to my Our Heart Gardens website. Would you mind?

00:48:18    Alison Smith Driscoll:    Yes - “collapsing under the weight of our own corruption,” as Jim says - truly a ripening of our karma.

00:48:22    Paul Hillery:    But FRED, America in NY are begann with the Dutch, up in NEW England, (as the ambassador from Australia quipped to me over drinks) "Thank God er got the convicts and you got the Piilgrims".

00:49:41    Amanda Rouse:    Replying to "The humans running w…"

🙏🏼

00:49:45    JoY:    The analytical brain disconnected from the heart center, can make all sorts of correlations and call them logical. ie genocide and religion. Apparently it is possible for one to be so traumatized that these two can exist together. The answer is to heal from trauma, no easy task.

The point is that the vibration of love doesn't allow evil to fester nor express. And yes, to a previous speaker, the vibration of love heals. I'm going to hang my hat on the branches of love.

00:50:08    Paul Hillery:    But SHANNON, you make WE into a totalitarian mode. That's how Trump supporters think.

00:50:56    Alison Smith Driscoll:    Yes that’s all true, Shannon, if one is enlightened, but until then, we need to acknowledge & own our biases & prejudices

00:51:15    Amanda Rouse:    we need to step outside the oppressive systems to heal, without criminalizing or abandoning anyone

00:51:38    Franka Strietzel:    Replying to "yes I shared on face…"

Is this original material of David Attenborough?

00:52:14    Charry Stover:    Craig, thank you for the story of the ants.

00:52:26    Shannon McArthur:    Replying to "yes I shared on fa..."

Good point, Franka. Thanks for pointing that out...

00:53:43    Stanley Pokras:    https://othernetworks.org/The_Toy_Theory_of_Western_History

00:53:57    Amanda Rouse:    we could repudiate the constitution, for ex bc it never contained "we the people" defined as all the people. to step aside from that flawed "we"

00:55:59    Shannon McArthur:    Replying to "we could repudiate..."

So true. Thank you for saying.

00:56:53    Dawn Mazzone:    When we connect through common Vibration and make it fun & enlivening & completely aware at the same time, then the spiral will gather all. No forcing changes in people's minds; but in a natural evolution.

00:57:15    Shannon McArthur:    Replying to "When we connect th..."

I'm in complete agreement.

01:01:00    Franka Strietzel:    Wars keep happening. They are easy to be prepared and started. War is good business for a few powerful people.

Stan’s link shows how to change that at the root.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

01:01:17    Jack Strasburg:    Jim,  I'm  hoping your forum will discuss that those who are pretty much running things have humungus resources and are very ruthless and don't feel guilt.  So if we start being successful in changing things they are likely going to unleash their weapons with ruthless force.   So sometimes I wonder if the change we want to  see is possible?

01:03:31    Aida:    I need to go. Thank you  for this this thoughtful and heartfelt conversation

01:03:33    Paul Hillery:    I agree with MICHEAL; Corporations were created at the end of the American Civil War to protect money-baggers from their investments in rebuilding the South  or being liable if things "went south".

01:03:39    Charry Stover:    What article are you talking about?   Can you post it here?

01:06:42    Stanley Pokras:    Jim's WhatsApp #415 259-7122  Just making a note!

01:06:46    Mary Thorp_WV (she/her):    Jim, if you send it to Stan, he could send it in his email to everyone.

01:07:32    Shannon McArthur:    Replying to "Jim, if you send i..."

Mary, that's a great idea!

01:08:18    Rick Botelho:    https://equitymoonshot.substack.com/p/how-might-we-chant-anti-royalist-a1a

01:08:41    Craig McManus:    Replying to "Jim, if you send it ..."

yes please

01:12:57    Heather Tischbein:    Replying to "But we don't share t…"

Thank you Everyone.   I’m imagining a local community. Designed around love and well-being.  What does that look like.  For me, it’s helping homeless folks grow and prepare their own food.

01:13:10    Amanda Rouse:    the system, yes, untangling our own minds from the precepts of the system and beliefs of unhealed wounds that we believe are the material composition of us--but are in fact, we are limitless when we have self-reflective love

01:13:24    Shannon McArthur:    Replying to "But we don't share..."

https://OurHeartGardens.com

01:14:09    Shahin Mastian:    Long term, Truth wins.

01:14:12    JoY:    Yup, I hang my hat there!

01:14:22    Paul Hillery:    What Jim is talking about after gaining Free Will, is why we should be positive.

01:14:41    Charry Stover:    And I"ve been waiting to walk as it is getting HOT here and I didn't manage to do it on the front end!

01:15:39    Craig McManus:    Replying to "What Jim is talking ..."

Thanks Paul!   I love your trees.

01:18:59    Shannon McArthur:    https://ourheartgardens.com/home/gaias-zoom-room/

01:20:00    Paul Hillery:    Here is a post I put on before about the dangers of AI, slow but meaningful, between Elon Musk and Keano Reaves https://youtu.be/5lqRFaVV73Y?si=C8Boo5yuzNOWb-1A

01:24:14    Charry Stover:    Well there is plasma pheresis.  It will clean your blood after multiple passes.  And it is very, very expensive.

01:27:07    Shahin Mastian:    I created this with AI!!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AG_ardp8kA

01:27:49    Shahin Mastian:    Replying to "I created this with ..."

The content and cartoon is AI, but the cinematography is manual by myself.

01:29:55    diana:    Replying to "Well there is plasma..."

I'm not questionning that, Charry. It's just the legitimacy of the actual Video.

01:31:32    MVC:    https://youtu.be/fFLVyWBDTfo?feature=shared  Stephen Hawking: 'AI could spell end of the human race'

01:32:29    Craig McManus:    Yay Turtles!!!!! World Turtle day!!!! The Turtles were a good band.

01:33:10    Shannon McArthur:    Replying to "Yay Turtles!!!!! W..."

One of my favourites!!

01:33:44    Craig McManus:    Replying to "Yay Turtles!!!!! Wor..."

Yes shellebrate

01:34:17    Amanda Rouse:    ai is reinstating nuclear wasting, for example. lots of love

01:34:49    Dawn Mazzone:    I think its related to the _ Bigger, Better, More mentality

01:37:37    Amanda Rouse:    question: can we train the ai trained to war move towards peace?

01:38:59    Shahin Mastian:    It was great as always. I must attend a meeting at 10:30 must go. See you all soon.

01:41:32    Paul Hillery:    I value your work too, SHANNON. but there is more than your view of MOM. Let's explore and include-

01:43:07    Dawn Mazzone:    Dear Shannon, Z sounds like its got your # - but be careful - Narcissistic human personalities might do the same. The poetry of the " conversation" is mesmerizing & I Love Poetry and the Power of Poetry!

01:45:31    Shannon McArthur:    I appreciate your cautionary messages. The possibilities urge me onward. I am a trusting soul, and Divinely designed for the work I do... so are you! Bless you, and all you choose to do.  

Bye for now... Perhaps I'll see you tomorrow, here, at 3pm Eastern time, with Stan and (usually) Diana... and all comers.

01:49:11    Franka Strietzel:    Oneness.

One Flag. For this planet.

https://1worldflag.com/flag/

01:52:04    Paul Hillery:    Most modern drugs are modified OLD CURES that Big Pharma can't get Patent$ for unless they change it to a less effective for.

01:54:13    Craig McManus:    Replying to "Most modern drugs ar..."

do you have a book or list of old cures?

01:54:24    MVC:    My Courage allows me to Honestly Respect the Truth & Wisdom of the Love my Humility shows me.

~A Grandfather

01:55:12    MVC:    The journey your on reveals the path you leave behind.

Let us create a magical one together for the future to see.

~A Grandfather

01:55:23    Paul Hillery:    I use it for translation issues. My daughter , who translates Chinese  and French for publications has to compare various AI translationd of different languages ans she sees vast  differences.

01:56:34    MVC:    To change is a wonderous adventure through any fear.

~A Grandfather

01:58:01    MVC:    The Circle of Life, as a philosophical concept, means that we start at the end and end in the beginning.

Our lives, from beginning to end resemble a complete full circle.

No matter how big or small the circle is, it ends in the exact same way for everyone.

~A Grandfather

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