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Humanity Rising Day 1122 After Chat – Friday May 2, 2025
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00:01:28 Prof J Paul De Vierville: Will the World Forum be streamed
00:02:34 Stanley Pokras: This is the AfterChat for Humanity Risiing Day 1122
00:04:12 Paul Hillery: Here i pass on my blogpost about Jim Hickman, the citizen diplomat "whose life is worth living"
00:04:44 Paul Hillery: ::https://newageru.hypotheses.org/11862::
00:05:03 Mary Thorp_WV (she/her): Aligning with nature & Gaia is our biggest power. It will live with or without us.
00:05:46 Shannon McArthur: Thanks, Stan!
00:06:21 Shannon McArthur: Jim, hello!!
00:07:39 diana: I have to leave - leaving you with positive, creative thoughts Big hugs :-)
00:07:51 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "I have to leave - ..."
Big hugs, indeed!!
00:09:03 Kit Vaq: I hope the World Forum will be online for those who can't attend. Can the link be posted again please? Thanks.
00:09:23 bonnie ONeill: Is there a question for Jim?
00:09:40 Shannon McArthur: State of the World Forum: ::https://www.stateoftheworld.forum/fora/overview::
00:09:47 Charry Stover: Let's do questions guys!!! Our time with Jim is limited!!
00:12:23 Owner: Amen...
00:12:37 Shannon McArthur: Charry, YES!
00:15:12 Pam Salem: Right, Jim.
00:16:03 Charry Stover: Not having been to the first State of the Wor;ld Forum, I am curious as to the format of the State of the World Forum. Is it one big auditorium with a sequence of speakers? Is it multiple rooms with multiple workshops going on simultaneously? Will there by booths?
00:17:43 Stanley Pokras: Jim recommends “Man’s Search for Meaning”
00:21:01 Shahin Mastian: I think elevating consciousness and deepen relationship with unconscious are synonyms.
00:21:21 Shannon McArthur: Charry, I love your question above!
00:21:52 Mary Thorp_WV (she/her): Creating the context….
The context is decisive.
00:22:49 Charry Stover: Shannon -- ask it for me if you can!
00:22:53 jiyun park: Replying to "Creating the context..."
YES!
00:23:26 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "Shannon -- ask it ..."
Your hand is up. Why not you?
00:24:37 jiyun park: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atwadcKl72k::
00:24:48 jiyun park: Gregg Braden’s humans are not causing climate change…
00:25:05 Shannon McArthur: Thanks, Jiyun!
00:25:20 jiyun park: Love you and grateful Shannon MOM!
00:26:05 Charry Stover: I have also heard (Lee Harris and the Z's) that a portion of the global warming has to do with the center of the planet. But a portion -- not the entire catastrophe..... ;-) We are still responsible for the extinction of many, many life forms.
00:26:07 jiyun park: Did we miss the link for Chartes? And N. Carolina?
00:26:36 Hyacinth: THANK YOU JACK!!! Humans may not help but WE ARE NOT THE CAUSE! Changes are happening all over the planet, underwater, volcanoes, radiatu
00:27:07 Mary Thorp_WV (she/her): What’s in NC?
00:27:22 Hyacinth: volcanoes, inter-planetary radiation etc.
00:29:05 jiyun park: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNtHTqpq3tg:: , Lee Harris? Technologies that emerge upon our awareness… thanks Jack! Braden does say we can do something about climate change.
00:29:25 jiyun park: North Carolina - Jim mentioned in earlier zoom…
00:29:39 Patricia Aguirre: Would be great if Greg Bradden there
00:30:20 Mary Thorp_WV (she/her): Yes, Jiyun, I heard it, too. What is it & where?
00:30:29 jiyun park: Biomimicry - social change leaders - At Bioneers 2025 would be great.
00:30:30 Charles BettertoWn: Tamsin Woolley-Barker on biomimicry
00:31:02 Shannon McArthur: Charles, there's a place to nominate speakers on ::https://www.stateoftheworld.forum/fora/overview::
00:31:30 Hyacinth: I am not a Scientist, but there have been 5 Ice Ages, did Humans cause the changes over the millenia???
00:32:32 Susan Collette: Replying to "I hope the World For..."
An online option would be convenient and also would be in keeping with limiting the resources we use and its impact on the ecology of your planet.
00:33:30 Hyacinth: Yes, Humans are destroying the environment. Cutting dowm
00:33:34 jiyun park: Peregrine Falcon just flew overhead… animals are with us… plants, fungi, bacteria… minerals too. RE-shaping and RE-membering wholeness as wellness and wholeness as agency is circle’s infinite points equal distance about a central core planetary point - views can vary yet shared coherence and corresponDancing as we sit in circles… everyone welcome included, many voices makes light works?
00:33:53 Giorgio Piacenza: ::https://youtu.be/DYl9UoTel9g?si=RpnDIjZmld6jYWWG::
00:34:35 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "::https://youtu.be/D::..."
What's that, Giorgio?
00:35:27 Giorgio Piacenza: Refuting dangerous Braden misinformation on global warming
00:35:46 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "Refuting dangerous..."
thank you!
00:35:55 Hyacinth: n Rain Forests to plant soya to feed cows that let out methane gas is for me one of the worst things happening to destroying the environment!
00:38:38 Prof J Paul De Vierville: Replying to "I hope the World For…"
@Susan Collette yes
00:39:45 Owner: ~!!!!!
00:39:59 Pam Salem: AMEN, Sue~!!!
00:40:04 Kat Haber: I. COMMEND TASHKA YAWANAWA FROM THE AMAZON
00:41:35 Sharon Marvel: Please include the book WHO SPEAKS FOR WOLF By Paula Underwood
00:41:48 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "I. COMMEND TASHKA ..."
Charles, there's a place to nominate speakers on ::https://www.stateoftheworld.forum/fora/overview::
00:43:50 Jordan R: .4 Ontological Chain as a Cycle
Perspective → Distinction → Information → Energy → Matter → Consciousness → Perspective
1.5 Clarifying Definitions
- Perspective: Generative capacity for relation.
- Distinction: The act that makes perspectives discernible.
- Information: Structure of distinctions.
- Energy: Directed coherence flux.
- Matter: Stable coherence structures.
- Time: Gradient of coherence.
- Consciousness: Recursive self-reflection of perspective.
00:44:07 Jordan R: 1. Foundational Axiom: Perspective as Ontological Primitive
Axiom: Perspective is the ontological primitive. All structure—physical, semantic, experiential—emerges from relations between distinguishable perspectives. There is no pre-existent substrate, only the generation and recursion of perspective itself.
1.1 Origin of Distinction
No entity or thing makes the first distinction. Distinction is not caused—it is the emergent geometry of relation between perspectives. Before any distinction exists, there is no self, no object, no time—only pure undifferentiated potential. From this, Perspective arises.
1.2 Formalization of First Distinction
𝒫 : ∅ → (R, r), with R/r = φ
Where: 𝒫 is the generation act, R and r are distinguishable perspectives, and φ is the golden ratio.
00:45:22 Jordan R: 1.3 Time as Coherence Gradient
∂t/∂λ = γ · (∇ · C)^α
Time is a directional metric of coherence change between perspectives, arising only after differentiation occurs. It is not a background container, but an emergent, directed process.
00:50:10 Charry Stover: Yes, we need a critical mass for a change of consciousness.
00:50:34 Paul Hillery: Wise words PATRICIA, but I'm afraid I have to go!
00:51:51 Charles BettertoWn: Thank you Shannon and
Stan and everyone here. Need to leave for now. Blessings all!
00:52:06 Charry Stover: Hopefully this forum will create a cauldron for us all -- while we are there -- to raise our consciousness as a group.
00:52:14 Charry Stover: must run -- thank you all!
00:56:26 Lynn Brodlie: Have to go. Thank you
00:56:42 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "Have to go. Thank ..."
Lynn!!!
00:56:49 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "Have to go. Thank ..."
I didn't know you were here!
00:58:03 Anne Fitzgerald: Stan-was thinking the very same thing! Thanks for stating this!
01:03:14 Shannon McArthur: toys don't give me joy - people do.
01:04:09 Dawn Mazzone: It used to be that children did not have toys - they worked with normal everyday things and nature
01:04:30 Flags of One Family: But Wings of the Heart bring Joy !
01:05:09 bonnie ONeill: Replying to "I hope the World For..."
Thank you all. Need to leave. Have a joyful weekend!
01:05:30 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "I hope the World F..."
blessings, Bonnie!!
01:05:55 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "But Wings of the H..."
They DO!!
01:06:01 Sue Baugh: Ever watch kids make toys out of pots and pans? LOL
01:06:25 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "Ever watch kids ma..."
LOL indeed!!
01:06:37 Dawn Mazzone: New market - look at Legos for adults.
01:06:45 Sue Baugh: Great to be with you all, but have to leave!! Much love, Sue B.
01:07:04 Patricia Aguirre: My kids all went to Waldorf school...and toys and arts...all hand made..together
01:07:24 Dominique Mazeaud: Sorry I am late in joining. We had a power outage here in Santa Fe.
01:07:31 Kat Haber: WE ARE ABOUT TO FIND. OUT ABOUT DECOMMODIFICATION
01:09:28 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "WE ARE ABOUT TO FI..."
Really, Kat? How so? and "about" when?
01:12:18 Kat Haber: RESPECT FEMALE TO GROW ORGANICALLLY
01:16:43 Shannon McArthur: ::https://flagsofonefamily.org::
01:20:39 Shannon McArthur: Imagine, by John Lennon: ::https://youtu.be/YkgkThdzX-8?si=0erEc8IBcURJAtlj::
01:21:46 Shannon McArthur: Image a Nation - should be a photo project focused on the world we want...
01:22:56 Dawn Mazzone: Very beautiful spoken word
01:23:21 Kat Haber: TEDS HEME THIS YER REIMAGINE HUMANITY
01:26:27 Jordan R: ::https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikkun_olam::
01:26:34 Jordan R: World repair
01:27:58 Dawn Mazzone: Thanks for telling us about that Michael
01:29:30 Kat Haber: PEACE OUT
01:31:08 Shannon McArthur: Awe...!!!
01:34:26 Shannon McArthur: Here's the website: ::https://www.stateoftheworld.forum/fora/overview::
01:34:31 Sharon Marvel: Did they record your talk Dominique?
01:35:02 Sharon Marvel: I soo appreciated site santa fe when i lived there!
01:36:25 Hyacinth: Bye, was good to be with you again. Blessings and LOVE
01:39:11 Shannon McArthur: LOVE YOU Hyacinth
01:40:33 Dominique Mazeaud: yesterday, I was in touch with British author Eleanor Robins who has a master::::s in Imagination. True
01:40:35 Kat Haber: AS ARE ALL ELEMENTALS.
01:42:39 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "yesterday, I was i..."
Wow!!
01:42:40 Dawn Mazzone: dawn@creativeeconomyenterprises.com to contact me for MorningWind ,,, birthing the new way/
01:43:01 Dawn Mazzone: a guidebook of 11 pathways
01:43:28 Patricia Aguirre: Michael...so importante what you are bringing
01:43:45 Sharon Marvel: Thank you Dawn soo much!
01:45:25 Dominique Mazeaud: is your poem available anywhere Michael? I'd love to read it again or hear it again.
01:45:54 Dawn Mazzone: You can also contact dawn@creativeeconomyenterprises.com to bring your writings to Spoken Word Zoom
01:46:14 Dominique Mazeaud: Or maybe use in my work. On Earth Day, my ritual performance was Tears for the Children of the World.
01:46:45 Sharon Marvel: Beautiful Michael 💦
01:46:59 Shannon McArthur: I will see you next week, my beloved friends. I look forward to it.
01:48:02 Sharon Marvel: Soo glad you stayed at the party, Patti! The best is yet to come🙏
01:48:08 Stanley Pokras: ::https://othernetworks.org/Michael_V._Coles::
01:53:07 Dominique Mazeaud: www.earthheartist.net
01:53:40 Dominique Mazeaud: heartistdm@gmail.com
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