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Humanity Rising Day 1065 Chat Page – Monday January 27, 2025
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11:01:09 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Happy day to you all... Sparkling blessings and loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc peoples now known as Kamloops, BC, Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:07:23 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Hello… This is Humanity Rising Day 1065
11:01:21 From Chris Harmon to Host and Panelists:
Hi Everyone
11:02:31 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Forgiveness is for both the forgiver and the forgiven.
11:04:52 From Andrew Cameron Bailey to Everyone:
Fortunately it can’t happen here.
11:06:13 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
https://www.amazon.com/Sunflower-Possibilities-Forgiveness-Expanded-Paperback/dp/0805210601
11:06:46 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Cindy, thank you.
11:08:11 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:
I can.t listen to this without crying…..
11:09:15 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Tears are a release of the pain... allow them to fall, Elizabeth. Thank you for releasing it, and allowing the healing to begin.
11:10:21 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Take 8 minutes of your life to experience a powerful expression on LOVE and FORGIVENESS by a Prison inmate. http://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/human
One learned from a parent and the other from the most unexpected source you’d probably ever imagine could teach True Love. View the first 8 minutes and get back to me if the last statement is incorrect.
11:10:46 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
This is the book Jim is referring to:
https://www.amazon.com/Sunflower-Possibilities-Forgiveness-Expanded-Paperback/dp/0805210601
11:11:32 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Check out Forgiving the Unforgivable is the first of The Four Sacred Gifts, a great book by an indigenous elder friend, Anita Sanchez. Or see the TEDTalk: What comes after tragedy? Forgiveness
https://www.ted.com/talks/azim_khamisa_and_ples_felix_what_comes_after_tragedy_forgiveness?utm_campaign=tedspread&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=tedcomshare
11:12:12 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
❣️
11:12:24 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
@Kurt TY
11:12:40 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Is forgiveness related to our interconnectedness? Are we forgiving oneself?
11:12:51 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Kurt, Anita is a beautiful person with a horrible childhood. Her book is powerful.
11:13:14 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks, Jim. Good Nugget!
11:13:20 From Dianna Winsor to Everyone:
THE GREAT INVOCATION
From the point of Love within the Heart of God
Let love stream forth into the hearts of men.
May Christ* return to Earth.
From the centre where the Will of God is known
Let purpose guide the little wills of men —
The purpose which the Masters know and serve.
From the centre which we call the race of men
Let the Plan of Love and Light work out.
And may it seal the door where evil dwells.
Let Light and Love and Power
restore the Plan on Earth.
the great invocation - 1937
As taught by Tibetan master Djwhal Khul through Alice Bailey
11:15:52 From Andrew Cameron Bailey to Everyone:
What a week it has been! Ugh!
11:15:55 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
@Dianna Thank you for reminding me. A powerful prayer!
11:16:27 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
That's a good start!
11:16:27 From Kris Bayer to Everyone:
The actions of Trump are no different than Biden or any other president, it just targets different populations. As long as we advocate a political system of coercion against the minority, whoever they are
11:16:52 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Marshall Vian Summers on Forgiveness:
https://www.newmessage.org/the-message/volume-6/wisdom-greater-community-book-1/forgiveness/
11:17:30 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
How do we regain the soul of America?
11:17:40 From Louisa Hext to Host and Panelists:
@Tom Eddington it’s absolutely the case. Forgiveness in the heat of conflict isn’t possible, nor is it encouraged. I’m a forgiveness coach and have studied, shared stories and coached around forgiveness for 13 years. My website is: https://embraceforgiveness.com/
11:18:07 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Louisa Hext to Host and Panelists (11:17 AM)
@Tom Eddington it’s absolutely the case. Forgiveness in the heat of conflict isn’t possible, nor is it encouraged. I’m a forgiveness coach and have studied, shared stories and coached around forgiveness for 13 years. My website is: https://embraceforgiveness.com/
11:18:17 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Marshall Vian Summers on Forgiveness:
https://www.newmessage.org/the-message/volume-1/the-new-way-forward-for-humanity/understanding-forgiveness/
11:18:21 From Louisa Hext to Host and Panelists:
I would be more than willing to chat with anyone who would like to dig deeper around this subject.
11:18:31 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks, Nelleke.
11:18:51 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
you're welcome Sharon
11:19:13 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
PLEASE post your comments to “EVERYONE”
11:19:29 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Thank you for speaking your truth of this NOW, Tom.
11:19:42 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
FOCUS ON WHAT WE CAN DO. Let go thinking you can forgive now. It can come later. Keep the energy focused for the good of all our relations
11:19:49 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
Kris Bayer - I thoroughly agree.
11:20:09 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I appreciate Tom's willingness to bare his soul to us.
11:20:40 From Kris Bayer to Everyone:
Thanks, Diana
11:21:03 From cathy weitznr to Everyone:
I also think it may be the lock-in of votes with the electoral college that doesn't allow everyone's vote to count. If everyone's vote counted, I believe many more would vote.
11:21:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Louisa Hext, it would be very nice if you could join us after the program in the AfterChat. The link will be posted repeatedly.
11:21:41 From Marijke Kuipers to Host and Panelists:
This is not only going on in the USA, we experienced this too with our government right now in THE NETHERLANDS, and otter European countries, although the necessity in forming coalitions between parties makes it less hard.
11:21:52 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
If you recognize that those who didn't vote are in some fashion ignorant.... once must forgive ignorance because this things are all steps on the path of rising as humans.... providing the contrast to push people to wake up... sadly, if this is what it takes, so be it
11:22:16 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Colin Tipping's book Radical Forgiveness is very helpfu
11:22:17 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09
Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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11:23:01 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
Thank you, Kurt - concentraing on what we see as negative, only gives it further strength. AND weakens our strength. Concentrate on the positive and strengthen those aspects. 🥰
11:23:07 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Forgive for Good - https://www.12geniuses.com/12-geniuses-podcast/forgive-for-good-with-dr-fred-luskin
11:23:11 From Vivian Fulk to Everyone:
I love Fred Luskin's book! It helped me so much!
11:23:17 From Ani Punarjanman to Everyone:
Forgiveness is beautiful !
11:23:22 From Louisa Hext to Everyone:
Agreed. Fred and his book is phenomenal and there are many others who have a profound perspective around forgiveness. There are many many positions.
11:23:31 From Fred van Heukelom to Host and Panelists:
Thanks for your honesty. I feel that I deeply wonder why still so many people could vote for Kamala, as she had not the willingness or humanity to stand with the Palestinians. For. Me I feel it hard to forgive that stance. It is deeply troubling me the a society can stand by and look at that deeply shameful act.of Genocide.
11:24:21 From Fay Kelley to Everyone:
Hate corrodes the container in which it is carried.
I don’t want to be in toxic energy.
11:24:22 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Marijke Kuipers to Host and Panelists (11:21 AM)
This is not only going on in the USA, we experienced this too with our government right now in THE NETHERLANDS, and otter European countries, although the necessity in forming coalitions between parties makes it less hard.
11:24:31 From Louisa Hext to Everyone:
Remember we are discussing community forgiveness and we are ALL individuals with different perspectives and all of which are based on their experience.
11:24:56 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Fred van Heukelom to Host and Panelists (11:23 AM)
Thanks for your honesty. I feel that I deeply wonder why still so many people could vote for Kamala, as she had not the willingness or humanity to stand with the Palestinians. For. Me I feel it hard to forgive that stance. It is deeply troubling me the a society can stand by and look at that deeply shameful act.of Genocide.
11:26:01 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
PLEASE post your comments to “EVERYONE”
11:26:43 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1459610.Forgive_for_Good (Forgive for Good: A Proven Prescription for Health and Happiness by Fred Luskin 2001)
https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/144589-forgive-for-good-a-proven-prescription-for-health-and-happiness
11:26:46 From Louisa Hext to Everyone:
During Trump’s first presidency a friend of mine didn’t talk to her parents for a year since they voted for Trump. Pain and suffering brings up so many different emotions. And everyone
11:27:11 From Louisa Hext to Everyone:
…everyone’s experience is unique and should be respected.
11:27:22 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Too many people are witnessing the Genocides in GAZA and countries in the world doing it now. Yemen, DR of the Congo, etc.
11:29:26 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
There are times that try one's resolve to choose LOVE.
11:29:58 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/133782.The_Sunflower (The Sunflower: On the Possibilities and Limits of Forgiveness by Simon Wiesenthal 1969)
11:30:13 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Good to have you working with us, Leo!!
11:30:41 From Louisa Hext to Everyone:
This is a very academic perspective. I want to ensure that participants don’t feel coerced into “forgiving”. It’s a great space for enquiry.
11:31:07 From Louisa Hext to Everyone:
Grieving takes time. Thank you for saying that Fred.
11:31:19 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Having ANY TIME and especially "MORE TIME" for forgiveness is a privilege! Our priority in WA state is LEGAL PROTECTIONS for all our citizens - NOT FORGIVENESS - a matter of HEART. WE FOCUS ON PROTECTING AND DEFENDING DEMOCRACY VIA THE US CONSTITUTION. IS ANYONE ON THIS CALL ACTUALLY IN DANGER OF DEPORTATION??? IF NOT, THIS IS A SERIOUSLY FLAWED DISCUSSION...
11:31:24 From Dianna Winsor to Everyone:
Yes, clarity may be a better goal than forgiveness this week.
11:31:49 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
"It is essential to grieve before you forgive."
11:32:22 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:
Yes Rita….feel to heal
11:32:33 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
😵💫 There is a great part of The Arabian Nights where there is cosmic battle of words and thr one who seems most defeated uses the most powerful weapon - HOPE … and wins.
11:33:10 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
CLARITY? Our best and brightest Federal Judges have made it extremely clear - that mass deportation of birthright citizenship VIOLATES THE CLEAR LANGUAGE IN OUR US CONSTITUTION!🥰
11:33:47 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
Grief is transformative. It is important to go deep with grief and let it give birth to aspects of ourselves we did not know were there.
11:34:00 From Louisa Hext to Host and Panelists:
Would you please invite people to be respectful of other’s comments. Kim Kerrigan is being judging and writing in CAPS isn’t helpful.
11:34:16 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/232910.Radical_Forgiveness (Radical Forgiveness: Making Room for the Miracle Colin C. Tipping 1997)
11:34:21 From Louisa Hext to Host and Panelists:
This should be a safe place for everyone.
11:34:34 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
@Connie - 🌹
11:35:53 From Louisa Hext to Everyone:
I invite people to be respectful in their communication in this space.
11:36:30 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Agreed. The grief is energy that needs to be felt, processed to fuel the flow of forgiveness. Is forgiveness the entrance into live & compassion the energy of our hearts?
11:36:37 From Andrew Stock to Everyone:
‘Decision to forgive’
11:37:54 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4069.Man_s_Search_for_Meaning (Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor E. Frankl, Harold S. Kushner (Foreword), William J. Winslade (Afterword), Isle Lasch (Translator) 1946)
11:38:54 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:
My emerging story is that we are going through a painful process that will result in “awakening” to who we really are…
11:39:04 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Hmmm, All the 12 step programs begin with "I am powerless ...."
11:39:26 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
I feel that it's roo early to forgive. Our anger, not demoralization, is a power helps the people around him to undo his harm as as much as they can. See hoe his Chief of Staff kicked out Musk from the White House, where he thought he was co-President. Evil the Evil want to be loved, even if they "justify" whatever they do, no matter how unforgivable. We should not get lost in a world of ALTERNATIVE "FACTS".
11:40:24 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Thank you, Fred for distinguishing the powerless piece with vulnerability.
11:41:34 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
The practice of keeping the heart open...
11:41:43 From Vivian Fulk to Everyone:
Practice practice practice
11:41:45 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
This is NOT a grievance story. WE ARE witnessing an agenda of EVIL - the repeated choice to engage in "doing intentional harm" True, we cannot change other people behavior, WE CAN LITIGATE, STOP IT, WHILE PROTECTING OUR FAMILIES, FRIENDS, AND COMMUNITIES! OPEN HEARTS engage BOTH Human caring + Legal might!
11:42:31 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
Is there a place that is beyond forgiveness? In that field Rumi speaks about?
Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing,
There is a field. I’ll meet you there.
When the soul lies down in that grass,
The world is too full to talk about.
Ideas, language, even the phrase each other
Doesn’t make any sense.
It’s a vibratory level where we understand there is ONLy LOVE. Unconditional Love that gives us everything we ask for. What are our requests? Our consciousness. These 7 aspects of our consciousness are our requests and determine our vibratory level and thereby our reality: Awareness, assumptions, attitude, attention, alignment, action and allowing.
11:43:01 From Louisa Hext to Everyone:
@Connie love that Rumi invitation
11:43:13 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:
AND forgive yourself….
11:43:35 From Vivian Fulk to Everyone:
Forgive myself
11:43:37 From Louisa Hext to Everyone:
Fred’s comments are so powerful. I know because I have met him. He’s the real deal.
11:43:44 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
Fred speaks from a very high, deep and balanced place.
11:44:01 From Andrew Stock to Everyone:
The Saint Francis Prayer for opening the heart. ‘Make me an instrument of your peace…”
11:45:01 From Andrew Cameron Bailey to Everyone:
Evil? Some call it wetiko.
11:46:47 From amanda rouse to Everyone:
I would call evil the compounded lack of processing/healing grief and harm , wounding committed on those we might call "evil".
11:47:11 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
You are right, MARY, along the road of the 12 Step is to list and make apologies to those your ask forgiveness from, even if they are dead, unless you would do more harm by bringing it up. Then there is the necessary path to reparations.
11:48:02 From Louisa Hext to Host and Panelists:
What time is the after-chat? I have to leave at 9:00a PT and could return 30 minutes later. However, it may make sense to meet some of you individually at a different time. I will be emailing Eileen. I’m very impressed with this webinar
11:48:21 From Vivian Fulk to Everyone:
I ran for NC House and lost. I am forgiving myself for not winning. I did my best. We are where we are. I am grieving. Join me in our collective grief. I am practicing keeping my heart open. This is so helpful. Thank you!
11:48:40 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Evil is “Live” spelled backwards. Is it the opposite of living life fully? The Hermetic Principle, of the “Law of Contrast” is a message of evils exsistence on our planet.🌎
11:51:47 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:
You got it Fred…thanks for reminding us that we chose to be here at this time…the worst of time and the best of time
11:52:00 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
QUESTION: Where is our moral courage and moral outrage? It's a "matter of heart" and our deepest humanity! JOY and anger can indeed co-exist. They are NOT opposites! And having righteous indignation is NOT GIVING UP OUR POWER!!! ALL DEEP EMOTIONS NECESSITATE A STRONG INNER OBSERVER - OUR PRECIOUS "META-COMMUNICATOR" YES, WE CAN AND MUST STAND FOR JUSTICE! NO PEACE WITHOUT JUSTICE! 😇🌎😇
11:52:20 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
https://www.theyfoughtback.com/ (90 min doc. One form of resistance was maintaining one's humanity by simple acts of kindness.)
https://www.pbs.org/show/resistance-they-fought-back/ (Available for streaming on PBS platforms, incluing PBS Platform for members.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZw9zfIFwT0 (1:07:50 Heroes of the Jewish Resistance — film discussion, August 25, 2024 with Paula Apsell whose stunning new documentary film, Resistance – They Fought Back, will be the basis of this film-and-discussion program. This groundbreaking film uncovers a deeper and fuller story than has yet been told, using cutting edge techniques of documentation, including forensic archeological investigation. Meet the filmmaker and two of the people interviewed in the film, Dr. Steven Meed and Prof. Yoel Haari, whose mothers were the real-life heroes Vladka Meed and Bela Hazan. Dr. Jud Newborn, a leading world authority on Jewish resistance during the Holocaust, will moderate.)
11:52:36 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Vivian, I'm sorry they did not see your value. And I'm glad we get the benefit of your presence with us.
11:52:59 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
To be of utmost service It is our responsibility to feed the collective consciousness with the highest vibration we are capable of. It is not spiritual bypass when we understand the holographic/ fractal nature of the Universe. It’s physics, its vibration - we affect all of Creation with everything we do, say and feel.
11:53:53 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
"I did my best and forgive the rest !!"
11:54:04 From Dianna Winsor to Everyone:
Fred, you hold such energy of love and self- acceptance. It is just so healing to listen to your wisdom here and now!
11:55:01 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
a resource - Marianne Willamson's book Healing the Soul of America - 20th Anniversary Edition
11:55:26 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
the role of blame...Thanks, Fred.
11:56:05 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
Very WISE, not to put the people you dislike in charge of your happiness.
11:56:12 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
When I took blame off the table what was left was Compassion! We create our own reality so we can't blame anyone, I created that!
11:56:51 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
anger hijack's the nervous system...
11:57:31 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
anger long held = illness
11:57:47 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Yay, Fred!!!
11:57:49 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Thank you, Fred!
11:57:51 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
thanks for coming!
11:57:58 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Yes, thank you for coming Fred.
11:57:58 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Sorry you have to go...
11:57:59 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
Change your assumptions and the world changes with you. “Humanity is a collection of divine, autonomous sovereign beings who have CHOSEN to incarnate on Earth on the soul’s journey to wholeness - self-love, self-acceptance and alignment with our divinity and purpose.” Https://TheTrustFrequency.net
11:58:01 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
True! Staying in ANY victim role is always de-stabilizing! WHY ARE WE FOCUSING ON ANGER INSTEAD OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND PROTECTING ALL OUR CITIZENS?
11:58:09 From tarekegn shano to Everyone:
Thank you so much FRED LUSKIN and others
12:00:11 From Cindy Reinhardt to Everyone:
Thank you, Tom, for your raw honesty to kick of this conversation!
12:00:21 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
I appreciate he distinguished grief & grievance
12:00:28 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Owning powerlessness is not a good thing, and I wonder about the efficacy of 12-Step programs. Would they be better if they didn't require that as a first step?
12:00:59 From tarekegn shano to Everyone:
Thank You Tom and Eileen too
12:01:53 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Be like Bishop Budde!
12:02:07 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
Fred spoke of doing our inner work. So important! When we understand that everything happens FOR us, not TO us in the Conscious Loving Universe to show us our light and our shadow ( the parts we don’t love yet) - a journey we gave permission for when we incarnated. Free ebook: Https://TheTrustFrequency.net/portal
12:02:46 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
🫶🏼
12:02:49 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Connie, thank you for that great work. I love the book, and the vision that inspired it.
12:02:56 From Michael Kennedy to Everyone:
I like "Be Like Water"
12:05:02 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
WOMEN can write the next scripture to create the NEW AGE. All the world scriptures were written by men during (causing?) the Kali Yuga ~ described in India as the darkest and most troublesome times of the Four Great Yugas ~ each thousands of years long. According to tradition, the next Yuga is Satya, the most peaceful, pure time of the Yugas. Where Peace IN Everything, Everything AS Peace permeates life in the Cosmos.
What is your rendition of an inspiring scripture, or meme, or book, or movie that depicts the development of the Satya Yuga? This is something that may allow us to “be the architects of the future, not its victims,” as Buckminster Fuller wrote.
12:05:10 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
It appears that some are judging rather than blaming and it is not our place to judge. Big difference between judging and discernment. Forgiveness is lack of judgment ! I forgive you for judging!
12:06:03 From Ann Marie Cushing to Host and Panelists:
What about Musk’s support of the AFD in Germany?
12:06:27 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
Yes Carol Sue!
12:07:13 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
Focusing on TRUST. A Native grandmother once told me “Hope has a hole in it.”
12:07:56 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Ann Marie Cushing to Host and Panelists (12:06 PM)
What about Musk’s support of the AFD in Germany?
12:08:13 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:
Yes to what you are saying about Gandhi….so open hearted and so brilliant
12:08:59 From Diana Will to Host and Panelists:
Or unleashing the courageous feminine
12:09:04 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:
And Jesus…forgive them…they don’t know what they are doing
12:09:04 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMMISSION di wonders.
12:09:04 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
PLEASE write your comments to “EVERYONE”
12:09:06 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
When you add to this chat, please include Everyone.
We are One, and best when we see/hear/experience the comments of others.
12:09:45 From Vivian Fulk to Everyone:
On January 29 the New Moon conjunct Pluto in Aquarius is the first since 1799 (!)- the time of the French and American Revolutions. It is trine Jupiter in fellow Air sign Gemini and aligned with the karmic Nodes of Fate.
12:10:17 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
@Vivian, TY.
12:10:19 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Vivian, interesting input.
12:10:25 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Thank you!
12:10:40 From Vivian Fulk to Everyone:
We are all now experiencing an entirely new energy field- a new archetype of Power breaking through into the collective consciousness- that will relentlessly and radically change the zeitgeist until 2044. As with any new frequency, it’s going to take time to recognise it, to acclimatise to it, to identify its shadow and to learn how to align with its higher purpose.
12:10:59 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09
Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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12:11:09 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
Bac to Brasil
12:11:18 From Vivian Fulk to Everyone:
This is from Rick Tarnas from our class in 2019 in Chartres.
12:11:25 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:
The way I made meaning of all that suffering….and evil is that as human beings we ALL have the potential for good and evil
12:11:27 From Nancy Godwin to Host and Panelists:
Yes. !!Who is driving the bus/USA
12:11:28 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
During the time I was in DC for Obama's first inauguration I was working with Choosing Green TV. We interviewed a man name Tulami Mumbasi (sp?) who was in prison with Mandela and shared stories about his time listening to him. After being released Tulami then became a tour guide for Robin Island. I asked him how he could go back there. He said this was his path to forgiveness.
12:11:32 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
It was awful.....landed in Manaus
12:11:58 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Have you heard RIDE EM JEW BOY BY Kinki Friedman. Nelson Mandela listened to in during his 27 years!
12:11:59 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
THANK YOU TOM for this excellent example of Columbia's MORAL COURAGE!!!!!
12:12:07 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
chained...50 hours no food , couldnt go to bathroom...horrible 80
12:13:09 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
“God is Love + God is Everything = Everything is Love. This brings a major paradox - What about all the things we see as “Not-Love” Change your assumptions (worldview) and the world changes with you.” Resolve the Love/Not-Love Paradox and access the higher frequencies where the laws are expanded and there is more beauty, balance, joy, abundance and freedom than we can fathom.
12:13:32 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Jean Cretien former PM of Canada to DT...
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-jean-chretien-canadian-leaders-donald-trump-plan/
12:13:37 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Look how much time we have spent discussing trump!.
12:13:41 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:
Yes. The way you deal with TEMPER TANTRUM is by ignoring it….lesson learned from my grandson who is 4
12:14:06 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
YES WE DO HAVE POWER IN CIVIC LIFE!!! IT'S CALLED DEMOCRACY!!! OF, FOR, BY THE PEOPLE!
12:14:12 From Diana Will to Everyone:
I am not forgiving anyone right now. But my “understanding” is that we are ruled by eight-year-old boys right now. Time to unleash the courageous feminine.
12:14:54 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
To achieve any of the previous, we need RANKED CHOICE VOTING for any Greening to happen and make a more democratic country for all the people and planet. It is vital to having the world to be MORE Representative than a simple 1 to 2 Party System. Fair Vote Canada, calls it, proportional representation: https://www.fairvote.ca/a-look-at-the-evidence/: Ask “AI” to find out more about it and then ask it to create a convincing description of Ranked Choice Voting for a Senator of _______ in the United States (your country), in about 500 words.
12:15:03 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:
What I have learnt is that it is OK to show ANGER. It is a reaction to something that upset me. BUT I must not stay with the anger, I must let it go to free myself. In so doing I can pray that I be able to forgive the person who hurt me, or mine. I ask forgiveness also, so I have to forgive. It´s not easy, but holding a grudge and hate injures me more than the other person.
12:16:24 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
https://keesdam.substack.com/p/daily-health-promoting-hygiene - especially for emotional hygiene
12:16:39 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
The Chinese word for "crisis" is wēijī (危机), which can also mean "opportunity". The word is made up of two characters: wēi (危), which means "danger," and jī (机), which can mean "opportunity" or "change point".
12:16:46 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
This is chaos compared to what will come soon. Be in the LOVE Space as much as possible.
12:16:58 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
We need to wrok on forgiving those who didn't vote, because they saw no HOPE and looked for it in the lies Trump and his cadre told, felt threatened by Putin and wanted a strong leader. Lots of wounded children out there!
12:17:14 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
Yes, Eileen trusting you are in the flow - and extending that trust in the collective action that has a higher purpose.
12:17:27 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Reminder, ”Please turn your Mike on,” rather than “Un-Mute”, OR “You’re Muted.” OR Please turn your “Mike” off.
Honors the deaf and the TRUTH.
Everyone has a DiverseAbility!
“Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see” ~ Mark Twain
12:17:49 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09
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12:18:05 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
This may not be a popular thought but I think that many of these systems they are breaking, don't work anyway..... I just don't like what they want to do instead.... that being said, my next thought, you just addressed Eileen.... this breaking gives us an opportunity to rebuild in a way that can service the Whole
12:18:11 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
“Every crisis is a birth” Barbara Marx Hubbard
12:21:11 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
The AfterChat is now open and listening in, if you'd like to join us.
12:21:19 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
YES Diana! EVIL does NOT deserve forgiveness! It's a very unpopular, yet still crucial perspective! WE MUST PROTECT AND DEFEND OUR HIGHLY FLAWED DEMOCRACY!!! WAY WAY WAY beyond preserving our "inner peace" REMEMBER THIS: "All it takes for evil to prevail, is a whole lot of "good people" doing nothing! PROTECT & DEFEND HUMAN RIGHTS ALWAYS! NEVER FORGET EVIL AND NEVER TURN AWAY!!! IT takes moral courage to STAND FOR THE TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND PEACE (NOT spiritual bypassing!)
12:22:33 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
QUESTION: What do you think? The forgiver is released from a lot (not necessarily all) of the negative force that harms oneself and distracts one from progressing into more love…
12:22:39 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
If you do not forgive, then that act is frozen. It becomes a fixed thing that is always there. Forgiveness allows for new options to appear. Lack of forgiveness creates stagnation.
12:22:59 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
I remeber meditation he used;;;will see if I find it
12:23:30 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Choosing NOT to forgive does NOT mean you must be tethered by it! 😇🩷🌎 It's a healing progression - with critical thinking, wisdom, compassion, and the perfect timing of our sacred hearts!
12:24:22 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
HERE’S a MEDITATION: ProBiotic that anyone can take to cure humanity’s inhumanity to others. It releases stress and also brings Super Concentration opening one to inspiration and enthusiasm. To be fully effective, we get to do it periodically through the day. It also leads to clearer thinking and stress reduction. Here’s a first step to get INside Peace.
Let’s start practicing this Psycho-somatic-emotional-spiritual practice ~ ThePeaceMaker Meditation so that we BreedLOVE. Learn in jjust 13 minutes: https://insighttimer.com Peace IN Everything, Everything AS Peace will reverberate throughout your day… This cue-word/mantra is used in your HOME language.
12:24:24 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Brilliant, Tom. Thank you for the example.
12:24:29 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
Unfortunately today I cant be in after chat...From Brasil...what Trump did to brasilian immigrants these last days is causing lot of anger....
12:24:32 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
I've been to Ausschwitz, met several former SS in tears. It is one's own choice. Even those and their children who think they have disassociate suffer at some levels, haunted for life.
12:24:36 From Mark Weinstein to Host and Panelists:
Beautiful program. Thank you Jim, Tom, Eileen❤️
12:26:09 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
The phrase spoken by Christ - "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they are doing," found in Luke 23:34, where Jesus is on the cross asking God to forgive those who are crucifying him, signifying his compassion even in the face of suffering.
12:26:12 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
THANK YOU ALL for this critically important, timely discussion! 🩷 🩷🩷
12:26:56 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Pati, thanks for your Brazilian perspective. We'll miss you in the AfterChat.
12:27:11 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:
Thank you Jim for bringing up Jesus….
12:27:24 From Vivian Fulk to Everyone:
Christianity was created by a woman, Mary Magdalene, seeing the living Christ.
12:27:56 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Let’s create the WORLD PEACEMAKERS MIRACLE
BE a PeaceMaker for your own wellbeing AND ‘others’. Pause at least three times during the day when prompted, and repeat while breathing IN: “Thank You for Peace IN Everything,” and breathing OUT: “Everything AS Peace.” And at least three more sets during the day.”
Jesus thanked Allah for having healed a person. What happens when His children follow His example? The synergistic effect is exponential!
The linked essay accelerates and deepens the World PeaceMakers Miracle experience with more of an intellectual understanding while allowing a direct experience… including scientific findings for the veracity of this practice. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1szaH33CkaN966VZjb4nUDufZCodlPAhZIBjW24KNUd0/edit?usp=sharing
Love what happens. “Everything AS Peace.” It’s going to be- we may as well enjoy how it inspires us to make Everything ever better, by being better oneself.
12:28:08 From Mark Weinstein to Everyone:
I believe I am reading the book by Tom’s teacher. Phakyab Rinpoche, Meditation Saved My Life- A Tibetan Lama and the Healing Power of the Mind . Inspiring!
12:28:22 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Vivian, what a beautiful observation... and then the patriarchy got hold of Christianity and skewed it unbelievably!
12:28:22 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
Here are Ten Assumptions for a New Paradigm that take us into the field Rumi speaks about. Https://TheTrustFrequency.net/The-Ten-Assumptions
12:28:40 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
Unforegiveness is the #1 cause of disease.
12:28:42 From tarekegn shano to Everyone:
Thank You so much JIM and the Team for promoting peace and harmony globally
12:28:59 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Yes, Jim, feasting on our wounds raises the question - what does it mean to be human?
12:29:04 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
@Connie...Yes! The 10 Assumptions are guiding lights!
12:29:19 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
who are the supporters BEHIND the jewish leader ?
12:29:23 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
DOES EVERYONE KNOW THAT WHILE WE WERE HERE AN EARTHQUAKE HIT NEW ENGLAND 3.8
12:29:34 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Jim, we'd love to hear about your experience of Birdie Jaworski's course on Remote Viewing!!
12:30:02 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Now we do, Janice! Thanks for telling us. Bless all our UK friends and their friends and their friends...
12:30:33 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Yes...@Janice. Look at the NOAA site tracking earthquakes to see where the earth is trembling in these times.
12:31:02 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
New England is a region consisting of six states in the Northeastern United States: ?
12:31:05 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
HEAL our OWN wounds first! Then REACH OUT to help others heal! Forgiveness is simply the first step! Yes, "Mediation Saved My Life" is an outstanding book!
12:31:21 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09
Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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12:31:33 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Jesus forgave Judas.
12:32:16 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Yes, Tom - we will see, and what we see will be what we make of it.
12:32:26 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/31374724-meditation-saved-my-life (Meditation Saved My Life: A Tibetan Lama and the Healing Power of the Mind by Phakyab RINPOCHE, with Sofia Stril-Rever 2017)
12:32:26 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Judas was Jesus instrument. ;
12:32:36 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Oh, Nelleke, good point! New England is not in the UK!
12:32:37 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Yes Tom, 37% WHO CHOSE NOT TO VOTE IS 100% FAILURE OF WESTERN DEMOCRACY AND EDUCATION! 🌎🌲🌎 THANK YOU!!!
12:32:58 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:
Again…the Bible…we see through a glass darkly….we really don’t know what is happening and why
12:32:59 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
A deeply meaningful program. Thanks, Jim, Tom, Eileen and all HR team.
12:33:35 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
WHY LEAVE THE HEART SPACE?
12:33:56 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Come on over to the AfterChat; let's enjoy more Heart Space together!!
12:33:57 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
@Eileen - the panel in your background is beautiful!
12:34:20 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09
Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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12:34:21 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Thank you all !
12:34:21 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Great program, Jim, Eileen and Tom!
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