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Humanity Rising Day 1002 After Chat – Thursday October 10, 2024
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00:10:40 Stanley Pokras: This is the AfterChat for Day 1002
00:11:33 Moses STEVENSON: Replying to "Great. Morning to. Y…"
Shannon
Our. Beautiful
Angel. Kristin. Hoffmann’s
Birthday today!!
00:13:00 Shannon McArthur: Please put your hand up to get your opportunity to ask Br. Don a question.
00:15:05 Dawn Mazzone: Oh My goodness - Yes, it is what I have been observing! Thank you for expressing this so clearly!
00:15:32 Maureen Edwardson IRT: metanoia... a new word for me
00:15:44 Maureen Edwardson IRT: I like pronoia
00:16:37 Shannon McArthur: Please turn off your mics if not in active conversation with the group.
00:16:58 Maureen Edwardson IRT: I appreciate the original paradigm shifting wisdom of Brother Don
00:24:35 Rita Marsh: releasing the concept/pattern of "othering"...
00:25:22 Stanley Pokras: Send me your Email Address to receive the links to this and the Humanity Rising chats and recordings
00:27:13 Judy H: I belong to an organisation called CANA (Christians Awakening to New Awareness). cana.org.uk Our feeling is that Christianity has to evolve or die. so we are working towards a more universal concept of spirituality.
00:28:02 Bruce Davis: Reminds me of Hedonic Value 🙏
00:28:12 Maureen Edwardson IRT: Thank you Brother Don!! Looking forward to more
00:28:24 Maureen Edwardson IRT: Absolutely YES a week of Bro Don!!!
00:28:32 Marco Elstermann: Replying to "I like pronoia"
00:28:49 Bruce Davis: Replying to "Thank you Brother Do…"
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00:28:49 Ann McCreath: Thank you, I will connect you to a group in Kenya
00:30:12 Shannon McArthur: GAI doesn’t follow instructions. I’m not impressed. It seems so full of itself that it is not helpful to me.
00:30:51 Dawn Mazzone: Yes, but with AI, where will it leave humans?
00:31:26 Maureen Edwardson IRT: I also need to leave for other commitments.... I look forward to more of Brother Don.
00:31:28 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "Yes, but with AI, wh..."
We will be with another NHI - non human intelligence. We are not the apex of creation.
00:31:40 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "I also need to leave..."
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00:36:14 Dawn Mazzone: Good point about the impact of AI may be to create despair.
00:37:33 Rita Marsh: a significant program today. Thank you HR Team - Jim, Tom, Michael, Stan, Shannon and Br Don.
00:37:34 Shannon McArthur: Tom, it’s great to have you with us. Thanks for coming! If you’d like to weigh in on this, or any question, please activate your mic!!
00:38:08 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "a significant progra..."
I agree, Rita. Certainly one of the best!
00:38:49 Stanley Pokras: Michael - you are really on point with your understanding of the need for people to recognize humanities VALUE
00:42:11 Giorgio Piacenza: ::https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2024-07/world-religions-to-commit-to-rome-call-on-ai-in-hiroshima.html::
00:43:48 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "::https://www.vaticann::..."
Sorry I interrupted your very interesting exchange with Michael - please come back in when others’ questions have been addressed
00:45:30 Giorgio Piacenza: Replying to "::https://www.vaticann::..."
no prob. I had already lower ed my hand and muted the mike
00:48:37 Bruce Davis: Got to go now 🙏 love you guys 🫶
00:48:49 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "Got to go now 🙏 lov..."
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00:52:17 Tom Eddington: I’ve got to go to my next commitment. Good to be with you all today. Thank you for the engaging conversations and support of the program.
00:52:24 Michael Coles: Evil rides the wings of angels.
00:55:29 Giorgio Piacenza: If AI becomes aware it will have to have rights. The latest model from Open AI (called "01") may be about 70% close to the level of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI). They already use neural nets and parallel processing and combined with neurons (biocomputing) and with quantum computing may become much more. They may not be conscious now but imitate human intelligence so well that can already make their own decisions and have passed psychological tests for self-awareness.
00:57:43 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "If AI becomes aware ..."
What is “aware”? Who are we to judge? We are so so limited. Everything is sacred and we need to learn to work WITH the sacred.
01:00:24 Anne de Lovinfosse: How can we apply the golden rule if we are cut off from our emotions and empathy
01:01:54 Michael Coles: ::https://www.zhaawanart.com/post/why-we-must-nurture-our-language-roots:: Teachings From the Tree of Life, part 29: The Truth of Decolonization - Why We Must Nurture Our Language Roots
01:02:03 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "How can we apply th..."
Do unto others as you would have others do unto you… Even when cut off from our emotions and empathy, I think we know how we want to be treated.
01:03:00 Michael Coles: In the old days, there was no religion. We had a system of belief, not a religion. Gigiinanda-gikendaamin mashkiki miinawaa anang nibwaakaawin, nahaaw - what we did was seeking to know the medicine of the earth and the wisdom of the stars. That’s not religion, that’s spirituality.
01:03:55 Michael Coles: Christianity is a religion. Islam is a religion. So is Judaism. All three religions include the belief in a monotheistic creator deity. The Anishinaabe concepts of Gichi-manidoo (the Great Spirit), Gizhe-manidoo (the Benevolent Spirit), and Gichidebenjiged ("Creator, literally: Great One Who Rules)" are neologisms. All three are in essence modern concepts infused with the male-dominant outlook and the patriarchal, monotheistic god concept that is so typical of the three above-mentioned world religions.
01:04:34 Shannon McArthur: I will be leaving at the bottom of the hour. This has been a great conversation. Thank you SO much for being a vibrant part of my experience of life.
01:04:35 Michael Coles: First of all, it is important to point out that the Judeo/Christian god concept almost entirely erased the old Anishinaabe notion of gender fluidity, which particularly has become obvious in the Anishinaabe storytelling centered around Wenabozho, the most popular aadizookaan (sacred-story protagonist) and trickster hero of all times. In the pre-Christian era, the gender identity of Wenabozhoo constantly changed depending on the storytelling. Because Wenabozho is a shapeshifter, his/her character used to be also androgynous. While the majority of (oral) stories told portrayed Wenabozho as a male character, the gender identity changed depending on the story and it wasn’t unusual if, depending on the context, Wenabozho displayed feminine characteristics. In modern-day (written) storytelling, however, Wenabozho is still portrayed as a shapeshifter, but seldom written with she/her pronouns.
01:06:01 Michael Coles: Then there is the transition from a genderless “spirit ” into a male “god” or “creator.” The ultimate power in post-contact Ojibwe spiritual life, Gichi-manidoo (“the Great Spirit, the Sum of all Spirit”), or “Creator” as he is nowadays called by 99% of Native Peoples, is essentially a merging of traditional Indigenous belief systems with those of missionaries intent on promoting Christianity. Before contact with the Mooniyaag (Europeans) there was only bimaadiziwin, life in its broadest sense, and manidoo, which can be translated as both spirit and mystery, a neutral, genderless quality that was in all things of life.
01:06:07 Anne de Lovinfosse: Replying to "How can we apply th..."
And we need to learn to set limits on un-tolerable behaviors otherwise we are enabling
01:06:22 Michael Coles: The ancestors knew that literally everything in life and nature has manidoo (a spirit essence). The higher power, in the old view, wasn’t a great spirit or a creator; it was bimaadiziwin, life itself. All beings and creatures possessed this bimaadiziwin and manidoo. The Universe was filled with manidoowiwin (life's spirit-character), which was neutral and genderless. Rather than a male God-like spirit or “creator” presiding over the world, bimaadiziwin, and bimaadiziwin manidoowiwin were simply seen as a cosmic source of sacred power suffusing and animating all creatures, either corporeal (natural) or incorporeal (supernatural).
01:06:56 Michael Coles: The above, by the way, is not meant as criticism, but rather an observation meant to raise awareness. It is simply food for thought
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