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Humanity Rising Day 1001 Chat Page   –   Wednesday October 9, 2024

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10:50:12 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Welcome to Humanity Rising Day 1001

11:00:57 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Sparkling blessings and loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc peoples now known as Kamloops, BC, Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!

11:01:06 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Good morning, Jim - good to see you!

11:01:11 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Welcome to Humanity Rising Day 1001

11:02:23 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   Hamburg, as well

11:03:47 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:

   Speechless!

11:06:14 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   The Church in Germany worked with the nazis, as I understand

11:07:20 From Rick Botelho to Everyone:

   History will judge Biden harshly and tarnish Joe's reputation with genocidal complicity. The USA has many objections to ICC and thereby cannot even be judged for international war crimes. The law has no ethical bar for US foreign policy. And yet, James and Jennifer Crumbley were sentenced to 10-15 years in a US prison for their role in the Oxford High School shooting carried out by their son, Ethan Crumbley, in 2021, for failing to prevent their son's massacre. Kamala Harris, in her presidential bid, cannot show any chutzpah in arresting the Palestinian genocide, because it will guarantee a Trump victory. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rickbotelho_for-the-past-year-ive-believed-that-there-activity-7249728465732603905-dW1G?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

11:07:44 From Sharon Marvel to Everyone:

   good morning ☀️ FB live just dropped!

11:09:07 From HRN to Everyone:

   Thanks for the info….must be a fb issue

11:10:41 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   back on , now, that i can see.  Hi, Sharon 😊

11:10:52 From Paul Greco to Everyone:

   Dominion over the Earth, is a Sin !

11:11:37 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:

   I love Fr Josh's energy.

11:12:07 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Michael joined us in the AfterChat yesterday. It was wonderful!! I hope to have his brilliance with us again today.

11:12:42 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   James Dell Talarico, This is about Christian Nationalism or it could also relate to Islamic Nationalism using Koranic references. https://www.facebook.com/504635278/videos/876031034421393.  His full sermon: https://youtu.be/Blph_2RSBno?feature=shared

11:13:38 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Welcome to Humanity Rising

                 With Love...          

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                               ..oOo..

11:15:48 From Franciscans Downtown to Everyone:

   The Philosophical Roots of the Ecological Crisis : Descartes and the Modern Worldview by Joshtrom Isaac Kureethadam

     Traces the conceptual sources of the present environmental degradation within the worldview of Modernity, and particularly within the thought of René Descartes, universally acclaimed as the father of modern philosophy. Demonstrates how the triple foundations of the Modern worldview - in terms of an exaggerated anthropocentrism, a mechanistic conception of the natural world, and the metaphysical dualism between humanity and the rest of the physical world - can all be largely traced back to Cartesian thought, with direct ecological consequences. 2017 Cambridge Scholars Publishing 409 pp.

11:15:49 From Tricia Fortina to Everyone:

   Hi Sharon & everyone...  Early over in Hawaii, eh?

     ; )  

   Will aim to catch up to some recordings...  Over in Nebraska with a full schedule.

11:18:40 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   QUESTION FOR FR. JOSH: Is the Church ever going to acknowledge the Gnostic Gospels, like Gospel of Thomas, or Mary Madeline, or any others?

11:19:06 From Paul Greco to Everyone:

   The only planet with life ?

11:19:06 From Franciscans Downtown to Everyone:

   https://www.businessinsider.com/apollo-8-earthrise-image-2013-12

11:27:01 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:

   KURT, Father Josh can't answer for the Holy Church.

11:30:08 From Katie Augustine to Everyone:

   I’ve been praying for Sudan in the Agape daily prayer, among Gaza, Ukraine, Lebanon, other areas, the areas affected by fires and hurricanes.. Holding Divine Intervention. Today

11:30:24 From Katie Augustine to Everyone:

   Today prayers for Divine Intervention and Dissipation in Florida. AMEN AHO

11:32:06 From Tami Hay Vegan Grandmother to Everyone:

   My book connects this, it is called EarthGut: The Story of Peace Love and Microbes

11:33:08 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:

   I am dealing with my Holy Anger as the US election draws near and so many, many  crises collide, seeming to make for a Super Nova, Chomsky looks at the next mass Extinction as the #1 concern.  👐🏼

11:37:57 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   👐

11:39:44 From cathy weitznr to Everyone:

   God has given people free will

11:40:39 From Franciscans Downtown to Everyone:

   https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/19857976-god-after-auschwitz [(God) After Auschwitz: Tradition and Change in Post-Holocaust Jewish Thought by Zachary Braiterman 1998]

11:40:57 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:

   God is in the midst, saying, "Little children, you have strayed, listen to your heart, come back to the Path"

11:41:08 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:

   If god is us, God is missing in each of us. .No one can save us, we are the savior of ourselves.

11:43:54 From cathy weitznr to Everyone:

   I don't see God missing in us but rejected for other than good actions such as wanting power over peace - human frailties and weakness

11:44:31 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   VIOLENCE CAN BE PREVENTED! EDUCATING for VIRTUES brings PEACE, PREVENTS VIOLENCE, and corruption. This program, http://LivingValues.net has over 90% reduction in violence in a Thai Refugee Camp within 2 years! The woman who developed it then went to Johannesburg, RSA and designed a program for street people - similar results!

   

   It’s free, the Living Values Education Program: The first two Values instructed are LOVE and PEACE.  All the other Values are generated from these. Thus affecting ALL life on our planet in every day.

   

   Here's more on three quality character development programs: Character Inclusion for Regenerative Societies, Diane Tillman, Daniel Allen. https://youtu.be/08sYrYfNvnw a Humanity Rising Global Solutions Summit program produced by the Peace Lab.

   

   “The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next.”

     ~ Abraham Lincoln ~

11:45:16 From Katie Augustine to Everyone:

   Thank you, Fr. Josh!

11:46:35 From cathy weitznr to Everyone:

   we must help those with a desert inside

11:46:45 From Franciscans Downtown to Everyone:

   https://kellogg.nd.edu/ihd-research-lab-integral-ecology

11:49:50 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   MIRACLES used to be prolific in the earlier church. Why don’t we emulate the Christ and thank the Creator for healing the minds/hearts of humanity? Let’s join together and do this simple act each day, when guided for local blessings to all humanity?

11:50:28 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Miracle Making eBook: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l6KlsgxfIfp33DKzgGWkZwOJRln2vdnjRQIv-afRcjg/edit?usp=sharing

11:50:44 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:

   Miracles still happen......

11:50:56 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   FRANCISCANS DOWNTOWN - Thank you for the excellent resources and overview above.  We must add centuries of  Western Imperialism, neocon agenda, the World Economic Forum, and ALL 3-letter agencies (WHO, WEF, NIH etc):  constant war, debt slavery, profits over people, Military-Industrial-Educational complex, Big Pharma, Big Media, Big Agro, Geoengineering, ongoing eugenics, (systematic eradication of people) eco-genocide, sex trade industry, lethal drug trade, the weapons trade industry, and the constant perpetual gun violence.  Perpetual intentional poverty and violence.  ALL OF THESE MAN MADE CRISIS ENGAGE HATRED, DEGRADATION OF, AND CONTROL OVER  MOTHER EARTH, INCLUDING SUBJUGATION OF ALL WOMEN (FIRST) THEN CHILDREN, AND MEN. GREAT QUESTION: WHERE IS GOD AFTER AUSWITZ?  HOW DID THE VATICAN BECOME THE LARGEST "LAND OWNER" ON THE PLANET?  HMMMMM.....IS THIS STILL WESTERN "MANIFEST DESTINY? and an extension of the DOCTRINE OF DISCOVERY?  WE MUST RECLAIM OUR DIVINE HUMAN SOVEREIGNTY AND THE SACRED WITHIN.  😇🙏

11:51:56 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Forgive me father…

   

   Truth to power might address the silent hidden crises of nuns. Original and all consequent Sin is a story of control through fear? Problems of now are male libido and female emotions devoid of clearing hurts and anger… rage of hearts is ceour (heart in French) courage.

   

   Children are Able innocent and we are educated socialized encultured enslaved into sinners salvation stories. One right answer resurrection by church fathers Romanized whose crusades to slaughter “in the name of god” lineage of Mary Magdeline true apostle and womb-uterus holy grail.  

   

   Along with Papal doctrine of discovery by Pope Alex who legally owned indigenous lands to include women and children.

   

   Vatican library held Gnostic truths until lawyers fight for empowering peoples in the temple whose Medici money edified not a humble home but regal palacial Holy See bank of mafia?

   

   When Pope Francis tried for 5% women’s agency, he was rejected. Community includes empowered mothers. Girls.

   

   Bless us all. Gaian stories?

11:52:22 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   @kat echo 🙏

11:53:11 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Vatican needs to GIVE ALL THEIR STOLEN LAND BACK to all indigenous people worldwide.  THIS IS THE FIRST STEP OF TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION! AND THE WAY TO "CREATE COMMUNITY" AS JOSH SAYS.  GIVE THE LAND BACK!!!

11:54:33 From Rick Botelho to Everyone:

   How might the Roman Catholic develop an anti-colonial Doctrine to cultivate equity meta-governance to reverse the escalating inequities of neoliberalism?

11:54:59 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   👍

11:55:02 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   QUESTION: What can be said about the Catholics in America led by the Opus Dei?

11:59:29 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   I keep getting kicked off zoom. lol

   Rage

   Ceour

   More heart 💜 break… archetype of hypocrisy has structures of change.

   

   Own our shared truth deeper broader. Gnostic. Wisdom resides hidden in the church - spin offs. 6,000 regions. Fractured.

   

   How’s

   Unitive oneness?  Of 3,500 languages?

12:00:02 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Imagine the Catholic Church being the first to restore the indigenous lands back whenever possible. Others could follow.

12:00:18 From Roberto Sciffo to Everyone:

   that would be amazing

12:00:43 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   How do we get this to happen?

12:01:01 From Roberto Sciffo to Everyone:

   a miracle?

12:01:21 From Roberto Sciffo to Everyone:

   it needs to come from within

12:01:33 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Yes!

12:01:40 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   AH, clean the INSIDE. BRING HARMONY TO LIFE, BE a PeaceMaker. It is an INSide job. It is a ProBiotic that anyone can take to cure humanity’s inhumanity to others. It also brings Super Concentration opening one to inspiration and enthusiasm. To be fully effective, we get to do it  periodically through the day.  It also leads to clearer thinking and stress reduction.  Here’s a first step to get INside Peace.

   

   Let’s start practicing this Psycho-somatic-emotional-spiritual practice ~ ThePeaceMaker Meditation so that we BreedLOVE. Here’s a 8 minute video describing PeaceMaker Meditation. https://youtu.be/8pbxX8o2WmA?si=uLAWqrODttwA1_rg   Peace IN Everything, Everything AS Peace will reverberate throughout your day… This cue-word/mantra is used in your HOME language.

12:01:41 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Love you @kurt

12:02:27 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Land isn’t owned by community

    it is commUnity.

12:02:42 From Robert Hayes to Everyone:

   (God) After Auschwitz: Tradition and Change in Post-Holocaust Jewish Thought

   Zachary Braiterman

   

   Free PDF ( JSTOR )

   https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt7rg1x

12:03:16 From Rick Botelho to Everyone:

   What are the assertions and refutations to support or reject the claim that the Catholicism has a human-centric view of God that has contributed the anthropocene? https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-are-the-assertions-and-re-0s3jwVmWScSVmYIlouKQZQ

12:03:42 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   The land speaks of we humble to hear.

   

   Listening to the earth SDG0

   

   https://www.listening-inspires.world/listening-to-the-earth

12:03:53 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   *If we

12:04:12 From Katie Augustine to Everyone:

   Ubiquity/HR loves Kate’s Donut Economics!

12:05:16 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Women Equality

   SDG 5

12:05:55 From Rick Botelho to Everyone:

   Raworth’s donut is full of holes. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-holes-doughnut-economics-from-de-growth-rick-botelho-3fyue/

12:06:06 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   An entire onto-epistemically important space and way DOA un(known) to men?

12:06:21 From Anna Barker to Host and Panelists:

   Can someone please find & share the Harvard study he’s referring to?

12:06:37 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Thanks @rick

12:07:13 From Marilyn King to Everyone:

   Tahrir Square,… with mobile phones and song…

12:08:25 From Marilyn King to Everyone:

   Gene Sharp strategic is a map/gameplan for strategic  change.

12:08:56 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Have you read the economics of Happiness, Mark Anielski

12:09:02 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Yes! Many economies… thanks @father Josh

   

   Organize creating hope and actions upon maturing and growth liberated from white male lens and habits… even well meaning ignorant of indigenous bodies as ready made one with Gaia.

12:09:20 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Wholeness

12:09:33 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:

   Please, this continuous introducing new thought is disturbing.  I would like to hear what Fr. Josh is saying. Comments about his talk is fine!

12:09:35 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Empowering people

12:09:46 From Rick Botelho to Everyone:

   This conversation is not generative-strategic dialogues. We need to move beyond preaching, mansplaining and talking heads. We need to develop better learning processes to develop beloved learning communities,

12:10:35 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   @hyacinth just don’t read. Focus on listening.

12:10:40 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Michael Tillinger’s genius in expression: One Small Town, Everyone can become a proud global member of the ONE SMALL TOWN initiative. You don't have

   to live in an active town. https://www.onesmalltown.org/

12:11:15 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:

   Some comments are fine!

12:11:24 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Thanks @rick

12:11:45 From bonnie ONeill to Host and Panelists:

   We lived in central america for years and the catholic church and other christian groups are almost always on the side of the wealthy and powerfuland share a deplorable history of abusing the indigenous and never activists or defenders for mother earth . Hard to see them as warriers for the poor and the earth! Encyclicals are published but not much change, in my view

12:13:44 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   24. Here’s a useful book for anyone, Being A Peacemaker, eBook, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OzwiiZCI_CdYLVKiZvSnUlUV1greo5zC6jxqF17Vb8E/edit?usp=sharing

12:14:28 From Anna Barker to Host and Panelists:

   What was the Harvard study he shared, please?

12:15:03 From Franciscans Downtown to Everyone:

   https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/182335.Economics_of_Happiness (16 different books)

12:16:45 From Rick Botelho to Everyone:

   I invite and appreciate any reactions on this post. And share if so inspired. Heal the Divided States of America: share #emancipationhaiku and anti-cult song https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/heal-divided-states-america-share-emancipationhaiku-song-rick-botelho-3s1ie/

12:17:25 From Katie Augustine to Everyone:

   It’s so amazing and wonderful to hear you share it this way, Fr. Josh. Earth first - Mother Gaia 🌎♥️🙏🏼 Thank you

12:19:06 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Our Mother Earth makes us all brothers —

12:19:55 From Franciscans Downtown to Everyone:

   A celebration of democracy I am organizing: https://bit.ly/3Nctzwm

12:20:47 From Alastair Moodie to Everyone:

   The prevailing economic culture worships Moloch, the god of destructive consumerism. Yes, false gods. We need repentance - a tradical change of mind!

12:21:43 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:

   Agree Alastair

12:22:19 From Alastair Moodie to Everyone:

   Moloch demands child sacrifice. Our culture is sacrificing future generations.

12:23:13 From Tami Hay Vegan Grandmother to Everyone:

   Grandmothers

12:23:15 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Jesus was a Jew.

12:23:40 From Roberto Sciffo to Everyone:

   Jesus was human

12:24:17 From Rick Botelho to Everyone:

   Equity muses challenge, open, inspire and align our mindsets using complex questions to co-create generative-strategic dialogues for redressing our meta-crisis and addressing poly-crisis and poly-collapse.

12:24:53 From Roberto Sciffo to Everyone:

   he was an extraordinary guide to human potential.. a guide to who we are..

12:25:11 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:

   Born of David´s Line...….

12:25:32 From Gerri Sweeney to Everyone:

   🙏🙏🙏

12:26:26 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Roberto, I agree. Jesus was a Jew AND he went east to study. A very good example for us all.

12:26:50 From Roberto Sciffo to Everyone:

   👍

12:27:07 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   The logic of the ideas that Fr Josh makes me think that the world needs an Encyclopedia of world beauty, love and beliefs that explores all the cultures and beliefs in our world. Such a volume could be a response to the Encyclopedia of World Problems and Human Potential http://encyclopedia.uia/en This new encyclopedia would help the peoples of the world to learn of the sacred nature of each other’s belief systems.

12:27:21 From Mo Stevenson to Everyone:

   New is on the rise and slate will be cleared and cleaned.

   All rising in time and. Oneness will. Be

   LoveLoveLove

   For. All

12:27:31 From Alastair Moodie to Everyone:

   We need to recognise how unique and wonderful our planet is. Father Josh reminded us of the image of Earth Rise - the only matrix of life tat we know.

12:27:33 From Katie Augustine to Everyone:

   Thank you

12:27:58 From Franciscans Downtown to Everyone:

   https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42054782-the-ten-green-commandments-of-laudato-si (The Ten Green Commandments of Laudato Si' by Joshtrom Isaac Kureethadam 2019)

12:28:06 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

                          You can join the After Chat here:       

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12:28:16 From Rick Botelho to Everyone:

   Great chat to evoke learning.

12:28:23 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thanks, Stan, see you in the AfterChat!

12:29:12 From Rick Botelho to Everyone:

   Will RC swing to the right?

12:29:19 From Mo Stevenson to Everyone:

   Namaste. Hugs

12:29:25 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:

   That theme song for the UN "We are the world" was key.  Since then we've unfortunately migrated to the iPhone in this ME. ME, ME generation!

12:29:45 From Robert Hayes to Everyone:

   @Rick Botelho : I'd rather not give all my contacts up to LinkedIn.   Do you have other options for those of us who are curious about what these interest might be - to 'heal divided states'?

12:30:13 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

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