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- Date: Monday August 10, 2020 (2020-08-10)
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From: Liliane Mavridara (11:00 AM) Happy Monday Everyone!
From: Georg Boch (11:02 AM) Yes, Jims internet is bad today
From: Kurt Krueger (11:02 AM) Does anyone remember the nAM)e of the book that was read yesterday about the 7 year olds experience of the bombing? Or where one can hear just that expression? A NEW Banking/finance system
From: Bruce Schuman (11:04 AM) Top-down, bottom-up, From: the right, From: the left -- we need new institutional structures... and :) a new scientific ontology that can contain all of this in a holistic way.....
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:05 AM) @Kurt, I don't but I think Cynthia has that on her Twitter feed. I saw something last night. Do you have twitter?
From: Shannon McArthur (11:07 AM) the cat that knocked over the milk that inspired the creation of plastic… there ARE stories!
From: Kurt Krueger (11:07 AM) SWITCHING, is a psychoscomatic, spiritual practice that works on changing habits, including PTSD. Described in Winning Ways For Living. If you want the description write to me, SuccessSystemsInternational@gmail.com
From: Malini Rajendran (11:08 AM) Well kekulees benzene ring model cAM)e From: lucid dreAM)ing. Almost all of Nikola Tesla's work cAM)e From: Lucid dreAM)ing. Call it imagination if you like. All pathbreaking scientific inshights and models that cAM)e up before its time was From: the other dimentsion.
From: Bruce Schuman (11:08 AM) does "radical cooperation" imply "interdisciplinary" collaboration -- ? are we "connecting different sciences to form a holistic whole"?
From: Malini Rajendran (11:09 AM) Yes thats what was potrayed in the movie "AVATAR"
From: Shannon McArthur (11:09 AM) silly scientist… ; From: Malini Rajendran (11:10 AM) Almost all of J.C.Bose work was the emotional intelligence of Plants.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:10 AM) @Kurt - I do have several new banking references, I can look them up later, if you’d like. Maybe it’s not just science - try life… LOL Heart forward - nice!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:12 AM) good for you /us…
From: Kurt Krueger (11:12 AM) If we don’t want to use a short Meditation/visualization or music to open Sacred Space. What do you think about Prompting participants to do so BEFORE the Session?
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:13 AM) @Kurt - sounds good, its all about time…
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:13 AM) Good Morning From: North Carolina woods.
From: Georg Boch (11:13 AM) Thanks for the idea Kurt.
From: Kurt Krueger (11:13 AM) Kathryns WE create the time!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:13 AM) @Valerie I’d like to hear more about what you actually do in the classroom!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:14 AM) I do miss the coordination /focus Jim provides. I cAM)e in at 3 minutes past the hour and expected Jim to be speaking. Grateful for Valerie’s words but /and would have appreciated some way of activating the heart before engaging the brain.
From: Georg Boch (11:14 AM) I have seen a. Chat that folks are meeting in up after the sessions. Are you doing that in Zoom, if so you have a link?
From: Malini Rajendran (11:14 AM) Develop the Heart and spirit and find out how much you mind opens up to a new world of a new science that goes beyond Newtonian Sience. We need integrated sciece and
From: Georg Boch (11:14 AM) Jim
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:14 AM) Kurt is it done From: the woods…rituals/and prayer before hand.
From: Raquel Torrent (11:14 AM) Thank you Valerie, that sounds as SCIENCE WITH HEART …!!!
From: Georg Boch (11:14 AM) Jim has bad internet today, that’s why he chose to speak not so long today.
From: Shannon McArthur (11:14 AM) Yay Georg!! @Stanley, please link Georg inn!!
From: Georg Boch (11:15 AM) Yes Stanley, please send me the link
From: Malini Rajendran (11:16 AM) @Valarie can you please put a link in the chat to your website.
From: Shannon McArthur (11:16 AM) We cannot depend on one man, AM)azing as Jim is, to focus our hearts and minds to be here Now. This is part of the learning…
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:16 AM) @George Topic: ChatPeople Zoom Meeting Time: This is a recurring meeting Meet anytime Join Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09
From: Georg Boch (11:16 AM) Thank you
From: Rachel Root (11:16 AM) @Bruce you have asked a good question. I wonder if combining disciplines is possible?
From: Bruce Schuman (11:16 AM) https://heartforwardscience.org/
From: Me (11:17 AM) Georg - send me your email address stan@communitymagic.org
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (11:17 AM) Join us at heartforwardscience.org
From: Shannon McArthur (11:17 AM) @Rachel, more than possible, combining disciplines is part of the work, imho
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:17 AM) @Rachel @Shannon - Yes that is the current path
From: Bruce Schuman (11:18 AM) @Rachel -- well, I have spent a lifetime studying that question.... Here's a review: https://ubiverse.org/posts/the-bridge-across-consciousness
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:18 AM) The Dali LAM)a’s birthday present he gave us all the film Infinite Potential: the life of and ideas of David Bohm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDpurdHKpb8&t=7s
From: Shannon McArthur (11:19 AM) CONGRATULATIONS!! have a great birth!
From: Rachel Root (11:19 AM) @Bruce thanks!
From: Raquel Torrent (11:19 AM) Thank you Anna !!! Thanks a lot for the links of the Dalai LAM)a's brithday !!!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:20 AM) Congratulations Anna
From: Raquel Torrent (11:20 AM) Anna, I loved when you said to reduce the suffering of the orld or at least not to add MORE !!!
From: Harriett Crosby (11:20 AM) Valerie, I want to know what you felt, experienced when you were up in the canopy of the old growth forest. Fascinating.
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (11:22 AM) I would be happy to share more about my experiences. Contact me through Heart Forward Science (https://www.heartforwardscience.org).
From: Shannon McArthur (11:22 AM) thank you, Valerie
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:23 AM) Another film I would add From: the Kogi-and indigenous people From: the Heart of the planet. Movie-Aluna- https://vimeo.com/54434492 https://vimeo.com/54434492
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (11:23 AM) Aluna is a great movie!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:23 AM) thank you, Georg, for setting the default for the chat to All Panelists and attendees. I AM) grateful to have us all on the sAM)e page!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:24 AM) Value driven and more!! Great!!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:26 AM) value coalition… valuable concept!
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (11:26 AM) @Malini let's connect! I'm at heartforwardscience@gmail.com
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:26 AM) @Bradley - I’d love to know more specifics…
From: Shannon McArthur (11:27 AM) the imaginal cells gather in small groups, attracting more cells to them…
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:27 AM) @Shannon - nice!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:27 AM) Wonderful ideal about the kitchen sharing.
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:28 AM) @Bradley, brilliant!
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (11:28 AM) @shannon I'd love to learn more about that
From: Shannon McArthur (11:28 AM) butterfly science!!
From: Raquel Torrent (11:28 AM) iT SOUNDS GREAT bRADLEY !!!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:28 AM) Loving this - sustainability - values - balanced and - COOKING!!! Yaaaay!! Simple and easy to understand
From: Shannon McArthur (11:29 AM) but they eat!! we all eat… great basic place to start! foundational
From: Raquel Torrent (11:29 AM) WOW !!!
From: Malini Rajendran (11:30 AM) @Bradly how is this kitichen initative funded?
From: Yasmina Groenstein (11:30 AM) @DoreenTanenbaum and to you all - "KrishnAM)urti, Bohm and the Edges of Transcendence" sat August 29, on www.InfinitePotential.com ❤
From: Diane Skidmore (11:30 AM) Absolutely!!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:30 AM) @Bradley we’d love links…
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (11:30 AM) nusawise.org
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:30 AM) @Yasmina - thank you!!!!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:30 AM) elder women who have cooked all their lives are drawn into the learning process.
From: Raquel Torrent (11:30 AM) tHANK YOU bRADLEY !!!
From: Jude Asphar (11:31 AM) links for Bradley, please!?
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:31 AM) nusawise.org
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:31 AM) Thank you Yasmina! will watch.
From: Raquel Torrent (11:31 AM) A collector of LOVE STORIES !!! hA, HA, HA, i LOVE THAT !!!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:31 AM) @Valerie - thank you
From: Me (11:32 AM) One great book on a new way for businesses to create an ecosystem and leave the current systems for exchanging value behind. Thomas H. Greco, Jr - "The End of Money and the Future of Civilization" Tom has been studying money and writing books for over 30 years. See my page summarizing Tom's resources here: https://wikidelphia.org/Thomas_Greco_-_Beyond_Money
From: Shannon McArthur (11:32 AM) hello, Goddess’ Girl. Well met. Thank you for coming.
From: Raquel Torrent (11:32 AM) That's women's Avalon !!!!
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:33 AM) @Elizabeth, why Crete?
From: Shannon McArthur (11:33 AM) yes, yes, yes
From: Raquel Torrent (11:33 AM) It's true that we need to go back to rituals !!! They bring the healthy dimensión of our human and divine nature !!! They're the link !!!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:33 AM) @Stan - thanks!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:33 AM) you have the background necessary to give foundation to your work. do not see yourself as less than you are.
From: Rachel Root (11:34 AM) @Stanley thanks for the book
From: Raquel Torrent (11:34 AM) YES !!!
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (11:34 AM) Yes! deep listening
From: Shannon McArthur (11:34 AM) science is head - you are heart. we need both
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (11:34 AM) @shannon -- Yes! And we all need both.
From: Shannon McArthur (11:34 AM) actually, you are both, Elizabeth
From: Diane Skidmore (11:35 AM) Deep listening to discover and 'hear' the needs. Yes!!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:36 AM) And yes!! A larger collective ritual. We're working on it!! Thank you Elizabeth
From: Bruce Schuman (11:36 AM) How about the UN Sustainable Development Goals as the foundation for a values coalition? http://origin.org/mom/
From: Kurt Krueger (11:37 AM) Braiding Sweetgrass, is an awesome book supporting this spirit in nature and following the indigenous ways.
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (11:38 AM) Robin is a friend and colleague who has been an important support for me in doing this work. Braiding Sweetgrass is truly AM)azing.
From: Yasmina Groenstein (11:38 AM) @DianeSkidmore - your joyfull spirit! keep yourself in that shinny space beautiful one! ❤
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:38 AM) Thank you Kurt, will help my study of the indigenous way
From: Rachel Root (11:38 AM) @Bruce will ck it out. Not sure of UN’s effectiveness
From: Shannon McArthur (11:39 AM) we have been taught by dystopian movies to expect this societal turmoil - and it gives “permission” for bad behaviour - we need better stories to adhere to!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:39 AM) Hello Yasmina :-D and thank you xxxxx
From: Kurt Krueger (11:39 AM) This should resonate with you and the extreme value of the Feminine. SACRED INSTRUCTIONS, bY Sherri Mitchell. THE ABSOLUTE BEST BOOK ON BLENDING INDIGENOUS WISDOM FOR LIVING THE LIFE WE WERE ALL MEANT TO LEAD - one of compassion and peace. Using Science, Regenerative agriculture, Feminine/Masculine, Spirituality, and Societal change...
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:40 AM) @Bruce - I’d love to hear your thoughts on my Resilient values word - Stan did a page with much of it o his website.
From: Shannon McArthur (11:40 AM) yes, Kurt, yes
From: Diane Skidmore (11:40 AM) @Shannon - Manners Maketh Man!! Simple (like cooking hahaha) xxx
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (11:40 AM) If you have questions for the panel about how we can bring together the infrastructures of intellect/analytical and heart/spirit, please put them in the Q&A chat. Once the discussion gets going, I will not be able to follow this chat - it goes too quickly!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:40 AM) sure, simple! thanks, Valerie!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:41 AM) Lovely Valerie - well said - good planning!!
From: Rachel Root (11:41 AM) @Kurt thanks for the book
From: Bruce Schuman (11:41 AM) @Kathryn -- I was studying your web page last night -- https://www.bridgetopartnership.com/
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:42 AM) @Bruce LOL
From: Kurt Krueger (11:43 AM) FUTURIST thinking: How would we design a FULL world society modeled after Mother Nature?
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:43 AM) I’ve tried to create a way to actually measure if we are walking our talk to show clearly the difference in values generates a difference in behavior
From: Shannon McArthur (11:43 AM) I HEAR THAT!!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:43 AM) Daniela - Yes, it IS possible. Like you say - maybe harsh to begin but- we just gotta do it!!! As soon as possilble!!1
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:43 AM) @Kurt Resilient values Set…
From: Raquel Torrent (11:43 AM) Thank you Daniela
From: Kala Perkins (11:44 AM) Such a beautiful Spirit and clarity Daniella!! Gracia!
From: Jude Asphar (11:44 AM) more information on what Bradly is doing …or did I miss it?
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:45 AM) I love Radical Collaborations!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:46 AM) @Jude, Bradley is cooking and doing science in kitchens (in short) bringing people together over food through food and not complete!
From: Jude Asphar (11:46 AM) yes, thank you Shannon, does it have nAM)e or link?!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:46 AM) Radical collaborations on every level - young and old; all cultures; scientific AND spiritual - all together!!! And ooooooh yes, look for the positives first!!
From: Bruce Schuman (11:47 AM) For CHAT PEOPLE -- I feel like writing a little "proposal" for you guys on how we could do this together....
From: Shannon McArthur (11:47 AM) Please do, Bruce!!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:47 AM) @Bruce - go for it!
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (11:47 AM) Count me in!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:47 AM) do it Bruce - ready for tonight?
From: Shannon McArthur (11:47 AM) today!
From: Kurt Krueger (11:47 AM) Bruce, we’re in. : From: Malini Rajendran (11:47 AM) evidence based science has been proven to be very limited. just because science does not have a vocabulary or the instruments to measure many phenomena , it dosent mean those phenomena dont exist.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:47 AM) It is by crossing boundaries that we get real innovation and real interdependence
From: Teo John (11:48 AM) @Bradley, is there a website for Nusa knowledge exchange ? In what capacity could we contribute towards your work in Bali ?
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:48 AM) Yes, service of society.
From: Rachel Root (11:48 AM) @Bruce I wonder if we can use existing structures or if we must create something new?
From: Shannon McArthur (11:48 AM) science is for us to learn about a holistic system that works - and how to fix it once we break it.
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:48 AM) @Teo, put your question in the Q&A
From: Bruce Schuman (11:48 AM) CHAT PEOPLE I can write it in 10 minutes -- so I will be ten minutes late for the meeting!! (something like that From: Liliane Mavridara (11:49 AM) @Bruce, please email it to me via Ubiverse, would love to see it. thank you.
From: Shannon McArthur (11:49 AM) It is time to spread the power - and each take up their own.
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:49 AM) The question needs to be sacred and respectful
From: Kurt Krueger (11:49 AM) The Iroquois Nation had one elected by the women!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:50 AM) benevolent and wise - a circle of elder women
From: Kurt Krueger (11:50 AM) Living Values: The first two Values instructed are Love and Peace. All the other Values are generated From: these. Developing quality Character traits is vitally important for all levels of society. When will this be emphasized? There is one progrAM), http://LivingValues.net that has over 90% reduction in violence in a Thai Refugee CAM)p within 2 years! The woman who developed it then went to Johannesburg, RSA and designed a progrAM) for street people - similar results! An awesomely effective PARENTING book is: Nurturing with Love and Wisdom, Disciplining with Peace and Respect by Diane Tillman. What will you do with this information?
From: Malini Rajendran (11:50 AM) beautifully put bradley we do need philosopher citizens. and that will happen when humanity rises into heart centreredness.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:50 AM) What do you do when the citizens decide NOT to get educated to NOT change their minds? That is what is happening in the US fostered by deliberately brainwashing media
From: Yasmina Groenstein (11:50 AM) @Malini -Yup! ❤...it will get there..
From: Diane Skidmore (11:50 AM) @Bruce - Brilliant! Looking forward to it xxx
From: Cheryl Ritenbaugh (11:50 AM) A place where scientists have struggled with these issues is the study of complementary and alternative medicine, energy healing — things that “work” but work through integrating multiple systems at the individual and household levels, and the possibilities for measurement create many opportunities and challenges.
From: Kat Haber (11:51 AM) Bradley Parrish: yes, dissemination matters! How are we achieving a broadcast of knowledge? Need philosopher citizens, know how to use knowledge benevolently, citizenship that is benevolent and wise, outer world, what of the inner knowledge? Equally valid. (Think indigenous?) radical half in democracy for humans, market based societies, how do we use these to have market based interventions that yield positive social impacts? no natural law of the market that makes them work in harmony with what the world really needs, internality by design, sustainability entrepreneurs, creating new org forms, new models, new products, new services, what happens when these are intended to support contribute to a longer term good through market placed enterprises, market/value driven, balanced competing interests, internally developed tools, heuristics to balance these, not seen in other entrepreneurs,Maximizeing is not balancing, understand that scientific abstract knowledge is one type of knowledge and another is hands on
From: Shannon McArthur (11:51 AM) thank you, Bradley! intention is the root, and actions inform and transform
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:52 AM) Oh but they Are trained - how can we monetize this??? becomes the intention and the distortion.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:52 AM) Thanks Bradley - great stuff!! Philosopher Citizens!! (All ages!! From: Malini Rajendran (11:53 AM) The closed clubs and royal societies of science and science halls of fAM)e need to be completely reworked and rethought. they are closed institutions who sit in egos and decide what is acceptable to science and what is not . unfortunately its too late by the time suffecient momentum is built for them to rework thier ideas.
From: Kurt Krueger (11:53 AM) Anna, you’ll love the awesomely effective PARENTING book is: Nurturing with Love and Wisdom, Disciplining with Peace and Respect by Diane Tillman.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:53 AM) @Valerie - Fear the great distorter!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:54 AM) science needs to be re-grounded in soil and in kitchens.
From: Cheryl Ritenbaugh (11:54 AM) The hidden issues for biomedical lab research is the struggle to find technicians with “good hands”. No one wants to really look at what that means. It relates to love of the cells, animals, plants, whatever living system is being studied. And this is why some “true” experiments are hard to replicate. There is no openness yet to looking into what is the secret sauce, since the phenomenon is so widespread.
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:54 AM) “The Perspectives on Indigenous Issues: Essay on Science, Spirituality Partnerships, and the Power of Words by Illarion Lary Merculieff. Scientist not honoring the indigenous out look was excellent book
From: Shannon McArthur (11:54 AM) ty, @Cheryl. interesting
From: Cheryl Ritenbaugh (11:55 AM) Yes!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:56 AM) @Cherly - YES - this is an issue in medicine as well. This is how I choose a doctor!
From: Malini Rajendran (11:56 AM) rimary rule of science : question everything. we need to open up science and make it more opensource. The more fAM)ous you are the more difficult it get to accept a point of view different than yours. Completely agree with you daniela.
From: Cheryl Ritenbaugh (11:57 AM) @Kathryn — in med known but often not talked about explicitly, apart From: first year “doctoring” classes.
From: Raquel Torrent (11:57 AM) YES !!!
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:57 AM) Vandana, was on HR, brilliant!
From: Malini Rajendran (11:58 AM) Yet women are the last ones sent to school for an education.
From: Kala Perkins (11:58 AM) Ava Dana Shiva: Earth Democracy; Soil not Oil (books).
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:58 AM) @Cheryl and NOT taught
From: Paul Coleman (11:58 AM) @Daniela: Hola From: La Junta, Aysen. Very nice to here of your work and your views of how a society can move forward through imagination. I have been involved n tree planting projects all around the world for many years. We have regenerated the nature on our parcel of land here in Aysen, which was a former cow and sheep pasture, by planting 1200 local trees over the past ten years and now have a food forest and permaculture farm. This year we are creating a middle story by removing the chilco bushes that returned and at the moment are planting 130 smaller trees that can exist in the shade of the larger ones. We now have around 35 local tree species and many bushes and such local vegetation as nalca. All our trees have comes as gifts From: a CONAF tree planting progrAM). This is our facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/paulandkonomisgarden/
From: Me (11:58 AM) In response to the activity in the Humanity Rising chats, the ChatPeople have been gathering after each Humanity Rising session. Additionally we have been communicating though an email list, now with over 50 members. In order to help make our interaction more useful, I have been publishing a summary of each day's session including the Humanity Rising Chat, the ChatPeople's Chat and a link to the recorded ChatPeople's Zoom session and a link to the day's Humanity Rising recording. Write to me and I will send you a link to the after session call and add you to the ChatPeople's email list. And Thanks to Jim and all the people and presenters at Humanity Rising. The Chat People love you. -- stan@communitymagic.org
From: Kala Perkins (11:59 AM) Vandana Shiva
From: Malini Rajendran (11:59 AM) @elisabeth which adivasi area were you in.
From: Raquel Torrent (12:00 PM Dear Stan I want to thanki you publically for the work you're doing sooo generously !!!
From: Malini Rajendran (12:00 PM Well didnt want to say this here but since you brought it up, but the christian missionaries are still systAM)atically destroying the adivasi ways of life throuh conversions .
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:00 PM @Elizabeth can you put that into the chat?
From: Elizabeth Erdmann (12:00 PM AM)arkantak
From: Diane Skidmore (12:01 PM @Stan - yes agree with Raquel!! Big thank you!!!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:01 PM me too
From: Kala Perkins (12:01 PM please can she put those books in the chat, because we couldn’t all see the nAM)es
From: Elizabeth Erdmann (12:02 PM Original instructions Melissa k nelson edited
From: Malini Rajendran (12:02 PM If science is elitist then there is western science and eastern science.
From: Elizabeth Erdmann (12:02 PM Marginalized and endangered worlviews Lidia guzy Staying alive vendana shiva
From: Elizabeth Erdmann (12:03 PM Braiding sweetgrass kimmerer
From: Diane Skidmore (12:03 PM conscious collaborative creative - working together - in a fair way!! Wonderful!!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:03 PM Thank you, Elizabeth
From: Elizabeth Erdmann (12:03 PM
From: Kurt Krueger (12:03 PM Seeking Solution rather than debating… less rhetoric and more action as Bruce would agree.
From: Yasmina Groenstein (12:03 PM @StanleyPokras and Jim and George -🙏❤ for your initiative and for facilitating the extended dialogue after sessions!
From: Malini Rajendran (12:04 PM More than science a scientific attitude is what needs to be taught in schools, where children are taught to question every thing, and not punished for asking sometimes akward questions. and its ok for teachers to say "I dont know , but Im willing to explore with you"
From: Kurt Krueger (12:04 PM For a deeper connection with others doing Zoom/FaceTime/etc.: First, Open sacred space - ask people to pause like before eating a meal to focus on the highest good of the meeting - at least 5-9 full breaths. Second, place your hand forward to the cAM)era, not covering it - more like reaching toward the other person/people to touch their palm. A deeper connect will occur. Keep it up… then put the hand down. Third, keep the connection with the heart and then speak.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:05 PM Bradley, fyi, your sound varies in intensity. sometimes fades out completely but comes back again.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:05 PM Values are such a multi-leveled conversation. How we work together stems From: three basic systems that are tacit and so invisible. Getting the foundations right allows for a path forward or not. this is a very big discussion that is not being had!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:05 PM minimum values!
From: Kurt Krueger (12:05 PM Thriving Life for everyone, includes Nature.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:06 PM Foundational values
From: Diane Skidmore (12:06 PM We're gonna have to be really clever tho as - soooo many people on the planet are going to b wary of any ritual based decisions. Maybe use ritual to create the collaborative conscious new ways and THEN present them to the rest of the world
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:06 PM @Kurt - yes - but with the wrong foundation you will never get there - that’s the issue, IMO Intents: protection; improvement; life - very different!
From: Kurt Krueger (12:08 PM Kathryn, I’ve worked it on podcasts with Pakistan and India, and AM)erica. It may not work with everyone…. It spreads though
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:08 PM The indigenous ways are focused on Mother Earth/Gia and rituals of respect and gratitude.Over time the indigenous way are still stable. Science discoveries are great but changing only because a fractual puzzle piece.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:09 PM Kurt we should actually talk.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:09 PM yes
From: Kurt Krueger (12:09 PM Kathryn Oh, yeah. Talking beats texting - cause t. Holds no context.
From: Paul Coleman (12:10 PM Science needs to connect with the common people and find ways to make science, simple and accesible to all. This includes enabling all people to have access to the sAM)e high standard of education. For too long the education has been slanted to the richest and in many countries, the value of a person is seen as the letters MBA, BSc etc. that follow their nAM)es. This creates the imbalance and separation of society to the rich and the poor.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:10 PM The Yogis did science through meditation, shAM)ans do science through experimentation
From: Raquel Torrent (12:11 PM We need that the Epystemology of Science needs to add athe new narrative of Rituals, Community Building and Heart Coherence !!!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:11 PM what a radical idea!!
From: Kurt Krueger (12:11 PM Magical
From: Shannon McArthur (12:12 PM that is what shAM)ans do!!
From: Kurt Krueger (12:12 PM Brings more intuition
From: Diane Skidmore (12:12 PM YaaaaY!!
From: Raquel Torrent (12:12 PM That sounds great to me !!! And very needed !!!
From: Cheryl Ritenbaugh (12:12 PM @ Kathryn yes. And doctors and alternative medicine practitioners are also scientists experimenting with their heart connections..
From: Paul Coleman (12:12 PM Ritual is fine as long as it is not dogmatic
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:12 PM At least the question is coming From: the right place in humility
From: Kala Perkins (12:12 PM So much of our cultures themselves, are rituals that we don’t recognize as such.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:12 PM We already do that but - we're all the 'silly' or 'airy fairy' folk!!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:12 PM so much wisdom in this chat!
From: Rachel Root (12:13 PM Mysticism and science are coming closer together
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:13 PM @Anna, excellent point.
From: Kurt Krueger (12:13 PM Unity is also the second of The Four Sacred Gifts, a great book by an elder, Anita Sanchez.
From: Victoria Schwarz Schwarz (12:13 PM Wow! intention-focused, gratitude-based science. Love it, Valerie
From: Raquel Torrent (12:13 PM Absolutely Kalia, clean our teeth, sit down to eat everyday, go to bed at night in the manner that we do it, and even the everyday shower is a mean of ritual of life !!!
From: Malini Rajendran (12:13 PM Science dosent have the tools or the vocaublary to explain the force and power of gratitude. Will share with you Valerie what I have found , understood and been revealed about how this energy of gratitude works.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:13 PM Actually, science is only now beginning to accept that prayer works so - maybe science can 'prove' that gratitude works too. Think it may already be done!!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:14 PM Spirit fills all the wholes in science.
From: Cheryl Ritenbaugh (12:14 PM We need to think about how knowledge, innovation, connection, intuition, experimentation have come together in the crucible of managing patients with covid. Such rapid change. And also the mystery of who lives and who does not.
From: Malini Rajendran (12:14 PM QED dosent consider this as fringe.
From: L M (12:14 PM @ Diane, to your point - a friend sent me this From: her christian relative’s FB post yesterday saying how saddened they were by it: “Do NOT follow your heart, Follow the conviction of the Holy Spirit.”
From: Bruce Schuman (12:14 PM Beginning stages of connecting the sciences -- so true, and so important!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:14 PM I have wonderful stories of the power of prayer From: my cancer healing journey
From: Malini Rajendran (12:15 PM yes if the outcome is a validation of a scientific principle, than intution can be validated through the results that it produces.
From: Raquel Torrent (12:15 PM Gratitude is related to Spiritually and scientists do not accept spirituallityu in their profession and therefore thankfulness souns also weird !!! Let's say awchward!!!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:15 PM oh, Lane, that’s so badly dogmatic! Sorry to hear that - I’m sure they mean well… little do they know.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:15 PM @Lane - how do you think they connect to the Holy spirit? That would be a wonderful conversation - words...
From: Rachel Root (12:15 PM @Valerie I agree we need to speak out more!! if we wish to bring others along with us we’ve got to have the courage to speak out!!!
From: Malini Rajendran (12:15 PM The problem with science is the concepts of hypothesis.
From: Kala Perkins (12:15 PM Most deep and powerful scientific discoveries have originated with intuitions by creative scientists!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:15 PM Science therefore put a limit on knowing by not including intuition. Maybe in the future we would be able to detect.
From: L M (12:15 PM @Shannon I was shocked.
From: Paul Coleman (12:15 PM Connecting the science of the mind with the actions of the body, through such activities as tree planting, cultivation, school gardens etc brings the practitioner into contact with the universe and the earth itself. Grounding while elevating. Ancient spirituality cAM)e though connectivity with the natural world.
From: Raquel Torrent (12:16 PM Your sounds goes away Bradley !!!
From: Kurt Krueger (12:16 PM Science can EVOLVE too.
From: Kat Haber (12:16 PM Larry Merculieff-Native Knowing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6cmKeRV3Z0
From: Crystal (12:16 PM People experiencing these intuitions are hungry for this information of different validation . . . but science may not be ready for it. Please share for those who are waiting . . .
From: Diane Skidmore (12:16 PM @Lane - as I've said many times (and it's a bit scary here) but - Morality is doing what you know is right, regardless of what you're told. Religion is doing what yu are told, regardless of what you know is right! Terribly terribly sad indeed.
From: Malini Rajendran (12:16 PM Through all of ancient History the Priests of ancient civilisations were actually scientists.
From: Kurt Krueger (12:16 PM Just as we and our society evolve and let go of the old…
From: Rachel Root (12:16 PM I believe that Gregg Braden is a good exAM)ple of someone who is using science to validate
From: Bruce Schuman (12:16 PM FAM)ous quote From: Wilhelm Roentgen - who invented x-rays. What asked, "What did you think when you say that evidence on your screen?" -- he replied, "I thought nothing. I investigated!"
From: L M (12:16 PM @Kathryn. That exactly what I asked my friend. it would take further conversation.
From: Raquel Torrent (12:17 PM Science Will HAVE TO EVOLVE, SURELY kURT !!! Like everything else, and like all of us !!!
From: Rachel Root (12:17 PM Yay Valerie I understand.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:17 PM I don’t think you need credibility in the scientific world anymore. It should not be your criteria
From: Paul Coleman (12:17 PM Science can transcends through the power of story. Ancient knowledge was passed on this way and it is stll the best way to connect with the masses.
From: Kat Haber (12:17 PM We must trust… our intuition, women and men> know what we know From: our centers?
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:18 PM You have to follow your bliss and step out and be uncomfortable.
From: Malini Rajendran (12:18 PM Do read " Molecules of Emotion:" by Candece.B.Pert.
From: Kat Haber (12:18 PM Then with courage to offer it up.
From: Cyndy Clemens (12:18 PM I bet if one was connected to brain scans during intuitive experiences, it could be seen. The trick is, of course, the timing because intuition is often spontaneous. But intuition, in its advanced stages of development, can be intentional. So, those who are in the practice of intentional tuning inward while receiving brain scans, changes in the brain could probably be seen, such as a more activated right brain.
From: Malini Rajendran (12:18 PM It dosent get more scientific than this.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:18 PM ancient knowledge is buried in dogma… how do we excavate it?
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:18 PM @Malini, excellent book!
From: Paul Coleman (12:18 PM The education system fails when lack of money prohibits everyone From: participating in an equal manner.
From: Malini Rajendran (12:19 PM Wisdom is relative and changes with the times.
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:19 PM Thank you Kat, big fan of Larry Merculieff
From: L M (12:19 PM @Diane Yes. Keep in mind this cAM)e From: the wife of a minister - both kind people (I’ve met them) and so found it doubly stressful.
From: Raquel Torrent (12:19 PM Credibility is the key, but why is more credible a scientific experiment thatn a meditation experience if it can be validated by many ????
From: Peg Kuperman (12:19 PM Did Gaia & her Wisdom have to prove her credibility?
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (12:19 PM right!
From: Bruce Schuman (12:20 PM CHAT PEOPLE -- I wrote a one-page proposal just now, and I will sent it to the C-P mailing list. : From: Rachel Root (12:20 PM I also think we have to pray that people will have experiences that they cannot explain which makes them seek answers! we need to encourage people to share their mystical experiences.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:20 PM Absolutely @Bradley - wisdom as a word is 'great' everywhere. However, our western culture worships youth and we no longer nurture or encourage or even talk about wisdom!!
From: Paul Coleman (12:20 PM It is through story and connectivity with the natural world that we cAM)e into a 'semi conscious; being
From: Shannon McArthur (12:20 PM @Peg, it was /is intrinsic and has been disputed and discarded throughout patriarchy @Bruce, you are inspirational!
From: Cheryl Ritenbaugh (12:21 PM Cleverness without wisdom is the source of our current mess
From: Malini Rajendran (12:21 PM The idea of the scientific experiement and hypothesis is that if it is correct than every time it is applied you should get the sAM)e result. The problem is the result is often lost in the conflict and egos of the vocabulary used by different people.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:21 PM @Bruce Fantastic!!!
From: Paul Coleman (12:21 PM Science needs to be humble
From: Raquel Torrent (12:21 PM Great Bradley !!! Transmit it to the other scientists!!!
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (12:21 PM heartforwardscience.org - Valerie nusawise.org - Bardley
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:22 PM Verna Allee had a wonderful model that looked at the levels of information or which wisdom was one.
From: Malini Rajendran (12:22 PM Wisdom as explained in the Upanishad is the use of Knowledge, facts, data, information in bringing about the necessary results for the benefits of the whole.
From: Cyndy Clemens (12:22 PM @ Rachel I agree.... science is often much slower at observing reality. Science is only just now validating things that mystics have known for thousands of years. I think the average person may need the validation of credibility to help them make the leap, but for those who already have the awareness, they don't need it.
From: Cheryl Ritenbaugh (12:23 PM @Malini. Perfect of course!
From: Kurt Krueger (12:23 PM Little children are usually aligned. aLREADY, LATER THE CHANGES OCCUR.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:23 PM @Anna - TOTALLY!!! Teach meditation in school!!
From: Raquel Torrent (12:23 PM Absolutely, as I said that is a ritual in itself !!! Brush your teeth with consciousness and you may be a real scientsist making a experiment and at the sAM)e time a real spiritual practitioner for the hi9gh consciousness of the momento !!!
From: Diane Skidmore (12:24 PM some schools already do that - - very expensive schools hahaha
From: Paul Coleman (12:24 PM We also need to create a new form of journalistic education, one that enables the journalist to understand what it is the scientist is talking about. The journalist often does not understand what the scientist is saying and he therefore cannot properly inform the people as to what the scientist is saying.
From: Bruce Schuman (12:24 PM nusawise.org -- shows as registered but not yet active
From: Diane Skidmore (12:24 PM Teach how to live!!! Yes Please!!!
From: Cheryl Ritenbaugh (12:24 PM Liberal arts education used to teach both. And then it was discredited for not doing enough business training…
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:25 PM @Malini Verna was very close. We created a ‘map’ applying TQM tools to that Only story has all of the parts - story is complete - that’s why it works
From: Kat Haber (12:25 PM How might scientists respect indigenous wisdom? What specific ways can both be valued?
From: Raquel Torrent (12:25 PM Yes Cheryl, it is such a pity !!!
From: Kurt Krueger (12:25 PM I’ve got to teach mediation in the ghettoes of Los Angeles Ince the mid 1970’s. It works in academics and sports, Meditation and the Ultimate Performance in Sports was presented that the 84 Olympic Scientific Congress. Connect with me for integrating it throughout our society. I presented it at the UN, Delhi Development Authority, etc. Lets spread it more.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:26 PM @Kurt Yes!!
From: Cheryl Ritenbaugh (12:27 PM Yes Kurt! Sports is the one place where any approaches, beliefs, practices are proven in performance. What an excellent crucible for innovation, given how the society worships sports performance.
From: Kat Haber (12:28 PM Happy place-Uruguay, yes?
From: Kala Perkins (12:28 PM If we live as a humanity with scientific wisdom of sustainable coexistence we will live very differently
From: Me (12:28 PM The Greater Good Science Center makes a good start towards bringing the needs of people together with the understandings of science: https://wikidelphia.org/Greater_Good_Science_Center_(GGSC From: Cheryl Ritenbaugh (12:28 PM @Kaia. So well said.
From: Kala Perkins (12:29 PM Which country is Anna From: ?
From: Kat Haber (12:30 PM She is in Uruguay now.
From: Kurt Krueger (12:30 PM Cheryl, the results in sports made it understandable in all the other fields. That why I moved From: founding the Institute of Sports Psychology in Bombay in 82, to forming Success Systems International for all the other fields.
From: Jude Asphar (12:30 PM Elizabeth…in Onandoga country?
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:30 PM @Bradley - that is my definition of business...
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (12:30 PM Elizabeth and I are in Onondaga County
From: Cheryl Ritenbaugh (12:30 PM Kurt: thank you.
From: Kurt Krueger (12:30 PM A true Karma Yogin.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:31 PM @Bradley - who can we connect with you? the website does not seem to wrk.
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (12:31 PM bradley.nusa@gmail.com
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:32 PM Kurt-Wonderful work and also following your Bliss
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (12:32 PM bdpmail@yahoo.com That was Bradley's email
From: Kurt Krueger (12:32 PM Have you read Manley P. Halls classic book, The Secret Teachings of All Ages. He was awesome friend.
From: Kat Haber (12:33 PM Indigenous know what they know From: tens of thousands of years of learning how to be in relationship with their places, animals, plants, other tribes.
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:33 PM @Kurt, great work by MPH
From: Elizabeth Erdmann (12:34 PM Decolonizing trauma work by Renee linklater
From: Shannon McArthur (12:34 PM I AM) SonLight Sparkling on the Waters, nAM)ed by MOM, and can only be/accept it because I share it with all of You.
From: unify unify (12:34 PM Yes on decolonizing
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:34 PM @Valerie- THANK YOU!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:35 PM nAM)es are really important - it is what humans do.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:36 PM translation of jargon and esoteric concepts into language that people can understand!!
From: Malini Rajendran (12:37 PM Gallelio showed that what is percieved scientific fact can be changed when new understanding emerges.
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:38 PM Beautiful Bradley!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:38 PM @Bradley - making the subtext obvious and then address that - yes
From: Bruce Schuman (12:38 PM @Shannon - we share that nAM)e MOM in some very creative ways.... : From: Crystal (12:38 PM Aristotelian triangle: meaning created by work, author/scientist/artist and viewer/reader/interpreter takes into account context and the other variables you mention
From: Diane Skidmore (12:38 PM So...… Bradley's use of cooking as a way in to science was great - another area is economy - science and economy can both be simple when explained by an understanding person
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:38 PM Clarifying subtext might just be a way to address the ‘false thinking’ being practiced here in the states.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:39 PM MOM is known to all by many nAM)es!
From: Malini Rajendran (12:39 PM Facts that have been shown not to be totally accurate: 1. The structure of the atom, the structure of the DNA, the structure of the universe, the science of how the body heals its self. The real science of the Heart and so many more. The science and facts about sugar, fats, carbohydrates which have all been proven to be different From: what scientists have told us.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:40 PM Magic (or Miracles) in Ordinary Moments = MOM
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:40 PM Webs of meaning...
From: Shannon McArthur (12:40 PM basic parts of the story we are weaving together in the kitchen and in small groups everywhere
From: Bruce Schuman (12:40 PM @Crystal -- meaning triangle: http://originresearch.com/sd/sd4.cfm#3
From: Kat Haber (12:40 PM What is a pathway of both science and indigenous wisdom might cooperate/collaborate. in the 50th Anniversary Celebration of the Wilderness Act in the US a few years ago, the keynote speaker began by boldly admitting, “WE HAVE FAILED!” then he went on to list several ways the agencies were warned by natives that management decisions that were being made would not lead to the healthy balance of all reactions in the wilds. First part of solving a problem is admitting that one exists. If scientists only see their way as the right way, then there is no known problem.
From: Jude Asphar (12:40 PM what is Bradley’s location?
From: Kurt Krueger (12:40 PM IMAGINAL/INTENTIONAL CELLS we are!
From: Elizabeth Erdmann (12:41 PM bali
From: Georg Boch (12:41 PM iNDONESIA
From: Shannon McArthur (12:41 PM MOM plays with us - and we are all a part of the play and science shows us the ways
From: Paul Coleman (12:41 PM Small is beautiful. Local is wonderful.
From: Jude Asphar (12:41 PM Indonesia, that’s right -thank you George
From: Shannon McArthur (12:41 PM thank you Dani!
From: Kurt Krueger (12:41 PM \Come to the after party that Bruce hosts, about 30 or LESS minutes after. Stanley hosts not bruce
From: Shannon McArthur (12:41 PM actually, it’s Stan who hosts! but yes, come!
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (12:42 PM address? for the after party?
From: Jim Garrison (12:42 PM What is the link for the after party?
From: Kurt Krueger (12:42 PM stan@communitymagic.org
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:42 PM Thanks Kurt for invite…after the session have commitment daily.
From: Bruce Schuman (12:43 PM chat people zoom: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09#success
From: Shannon McArthur (12:43 PM sorry, Doreen, we’ll hold space for you till you can join us…
From: Jim Garrison (12:43 PM I can join immediately after for a while.
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:43 PM Will try to change things…wonderful group
From: Shannon McArthur (12:44 PM we need to respond to the interests of the moment… at the beach, what is it that sparkles in the sand? What is sand made of…
From: Mushin Patric Roberts (12:44 PM Mushin I AM) joining conversation
From: Shannon McArthur (12:44 PM conversation is open to all, and welcome!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:44 PM @Valerie contact Stan - stan@communitymagic.org
From: Paul Coleman (12:45 PM I have always found that asking the right question can activate the curiosity of the person being asked and with that comes the excitement of connectivity.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:45 PM You always have to start with where people are..
From: Shannon McArthur (12:45 PM yay, Dani!!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:45 PM @Paul Yes!
From: Kat Haber (12:45 PM Indigenous are dying right now, especially in the AM)azon. How might we accelerate valuing their wisdom to keep them healthy and safe From: COVID? Emergency calls for drastic measures. Can science as a tool move fast enough now?
From: Diane Skidmore (12:46 PM wonderful @Dani- to keep them always interested in earning!!
From: Me (12:46 PM The kids TV show that was called Beckman's World was a lovely introduction to science. Also Bill Nye the Science Guy gave young people an intro to science. Cosmos, too...
From: Diane Skidmore (12:46 PM LEARNING!!! (aaagh hahaha From: Shannon McArthur (12:47 PM oh, Kat, good question - and maybe part of the answer is to barricade them… to save them harmless From: the greater world.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:47 PM And thank you Anna - fallible and imperfect human beings!! (moi hahaha From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:48 PM @Kat - what questions….
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:48 PM Insightful conversation. Thank you All , especially to the panelist!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:48 PM use science to give solid foundation to our natural knowing… find the validation for our intuition by following our curiosity
From: Kurt Krueger (12:48 PM I got to teach classes for K-12 teachers PEAK PERFORMANCE PRACTICES FOR ACADEMICS AND SPORTS - integrating the holistic approach,. I got a nAM)e for a EASY meditation practice that I taught - Roller Coaster Fingers From: a Kindergarten teacher. It’s described ion Winning Ways for Living. : From: Kala Perkins (12:49 PM Bradley: Use science that is enhanced by our inner knowledge
From: Diane Skidmore (12:50 PM One of the first areas to be saved/worked on is The AM)azon!!!
From: Kat Haber (12:50 PM What will remain for scientists to study in the rainforest if those who know it intimately are lost in these COVID years? If the rainforest is destroyed? If the mysteries are vanished before scientists might uncover them?
From: Kurt Krueger (12:50 PM Got Happiness class into a Barrio Middle School the last years that I taught, kids are still doing the homework. : From: Shannon McArthur (12:50 PM you make sacred the things that you pay attention to.
From: Cheryl Ritenbaugh (12:50 PM @Kurt: I think that Andrew Newberg used that as a research meditation intervention for neurotheology research
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:50 PM @Kurt LOL how wonderful!!!
From: Me (12:50 PM Science and religion are both ways for people to make sense of reality... people like Pierre Teilhard de Chardin made the importance of both to his audience.
From: Paul Coleman (12:50 PM Thanks all the panelists for this very important conversation. Covid 19 has illuminated just how far science has to travel to reach the common man and woman on the street.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:51 PM Thank you All!!!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:51 PM @Valerie I love where you are going
From: Malini Rajendran (12:51 PM Thank you jim and the panelists
From: Kala Perkins (12:51 PM Thank you for an awesome conversation!!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:51 PM thank you Valerie, and all
From: Elizabeth Erdmann (12:51 PM Thank all of you !
From: Paul Coleman (12:51 PM Scintillating conversation indeed.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:52 PM truth pursued, rather than possessed!!
From: Kurt Krueger (12:52 PM Kat, The Dark Crystal movie shows that Wisdom will never be lost even when the planet is Dark… :) Always look on the bright side of life and Work as you do for it!
From: Valerie A. Luzadis (12:52 PM Thanks, everyone!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:52 PM Thank you!!! Great panel!
From: Bruce Schuman (12:52 PM the grass is a great teacher....
From: Shannon McArthur (12:53 PM and the dew does more than make your feet wet!
From: Kurt Krueger (12:53 PM Gracias, Adios - to God, : From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:53 PM The Black Madonna in Mexico as a worship for the drug gangs…
From: Victoria Schwarz Schwarz (12:53 PM science as sacred, love it, Jim!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:54 PM this is healing… we are
From: Mushin Patric Roberts (12:54 PM Mitákuye Oyás'iŋ (All Are Related From: Kala Perkins (12:54 PM Science as a pursuit of the Sacred
From: Shannon McArthur (12:54 PM All My Relations, blessings…
From: unify unify (12:54 PM beautiful thoughts ❤
From: Bruce Schuman (12:54 PM I love Anne Baring
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:55 PM Anyone get Jim’s summary? Beautiful said
From: Kat Haber (12:55 PM Thank you all for evoking deeper, urgent inquiries. All our relations. May your studies be broadly understood!
From: Jude Asphar (12:55 PM Yay! Anne Baring…evermore thanks for all of it, Jim
From: Yasmina Groenstein (12:55 PM 🙏❤
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:55 PM Thank you All!!!!
