Day111HRAfterChat
Humanity Rising Day 111 After Chat
- Date: Wednesday October 7, 2020 (2020-10-07)
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Chat from Chat People Zoom from HR Day 111:
- 12:35:19 From: franka strietzel : Some of the poem by Thich Nhat Hanh: Be yourself. Life is precious as it is. All the elements for your happiness are already here. There is no need to run, strive, search, or struggle. Just be. Just being in the moment in this place is the deepest practice of meditation. Most people cannot believe that just walking as though you have nowhere to go is enough. They think that striving and competing are normal and necessary. Try practicing aimlessness for just five minutes,and you will see how happy you are during those five minutes.†“People usually consider walking on water or in thin air a miracle. But I think the real miracle is not to walk either on water or in thin air, but to walk on earth. Every day we are engaged in a miracle which we don't even recognize: a blue sky, white clouds, green leaves, the black, curious eyes of a child—our own two eyes. All is a miracle.†― Thich Nhat Hanh
- 12:36:02 From: lesleysouthwick-trask : Thanks Franka <3
- 12:41:19 From: Daniel : David S would like to hear more about the archetype
- 12:42:19 From: Stanley Pokras : David, you can write to our email list chatpeople@communitymagic.org
- 12:45:50 From: Daniel : loosing its livingness, beautiful
- 12:47:13 From: Stanley Pokras : NEW ChatPeople - Write to our email list to be added. chatpeople@communitymagic.org or write to me to add you stan@communitymagic.org
- 12:49:42 From: Stanley Pokras : Art doesn't just predict the future. Art Creates the future.
- 12:51:38 From: Bruce Schuman : "man's inhumanity to man...."
- 12:52:32 From: Daniel : we are creating the future in every moment
- 12:53:55 From: Diane Skidmore : The river is deep. The river of despair is only as deep as the river of joy - it's the same river. We need both!!
- 12:55:28 From: Karen Ball : They also share the same core: compassion
- 12:55:58 From: Daniel : a unification theory Bruce - lovely collective
- 12:56:35 From: Liliane Mavridara : We are at the right place at the right time.
- 12:57:23 From: Daniel : acknowledgement to Stan
- 12:57:27 From: David S : Yes Bruce, a powerful archetype is activating in this era. It is multivalent, creative for some, fearsome for others… David Stoney
- 13:00:48 From: Diane Skidmore : @Karen - yes!! And along with Consciousness...…. we can progress
- 13:00:52 From: Bruce Schuman : World Scripture - a big container http://origin.org/ucs/ws/ws.cfm
- 13:03:31 From: David S : Here’s the message I sent to the HR Chat I’ll send copies of the post to chatpeople@communitymagic.org…
- 13:03:57 From: David S : Oops, here: Thank you, Richard, for specifically bringing up the importance of understanding trauma. Our species has gone through at least 6 prolonged periods of trauma in the last million years of evolution. These dark nights occurred when Nature blew her icy breath on the world, creating cold, dry, extinction-threatening glacial phases of the earth’s climate cycling. Surely, our psyches have been affected by that difficult evolutionary past, but it was, I believe, part of the plan of universal creativity (oneness), i.e., it was a necessary part of our journey just like the dark night that is just now beginning. I’ll be posting a paper I recently wrote later today. It suggests a frame/story that anyone with ears to hear and eyes to see can identify with (I think!). It’s titled Stages in the Evolution of Embodied Human Consciousness. Happy to answer questions… David Stoney - sstoney39@gmail.com
- 13:05:19 From: Bruce Schuman : Link to the recent Humanity Rising webinar on Trump and the threat against democracy https://youtu.be/BO8-No4MB6A?t=1229
- 13:05:39 From: Daniel : it is within you, it is a projected piece
- 13:06:12 From: MSTi Virtual Office : Gotta run. I attended this Thich Nhat Hanh, August 29, 2007, accepting death as part of the circularity in Zen tradition. Good article see you later…. https://scholarworks.umb.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1248&context=humanarchitecture
- 13:06:30 From: Bruce Schuman : oh, it's about Trump...… :)
- 13:07:31 From: Liliane Mavridara : All next week is Biomimicry and Regenerative systems
- 13:08:13 From: Liliane Mavridara : Whoever is not talking perhaps can be muted.
- 13:08:56 From: Liliane Mavridara : Shannon, you came in at the best time!
- 13:11:04 From: marciaraffstudio : me.too!
- 13:11:20 From: marciaraffstudio : I came in late and missed it all
- 13:11:34 From: Bruce Schuman : i want to hear Ina's idea again briefly…..
- 13:11:37 From: Liliane Mavridara : Lesley, you may have to repeat it because many of use came after it.
- 13:11:45 From: Liliane Mavridara : Ina's comment
- 13:11:48 From: Ina Albert : Ina Albert Inaalbert@aol.com program suggestions for Love Lives Here in the Flathead Valley
- 13:*13:38 From: marciaraffstudio : I’d like to hear Ina’s idea, too.
- 13:*13:45 From: Bruce Schuman : rediscovery of the eternal.....
- 13:*13:54 From: Daniel : in truth, it is always new, every moment, every day
- 13:15:33 From: Daniel : the shadow usually involves either violence or sex
- 13:16:06 From: lesleysouthwick-trask : I am going to ask Ina to write up her idea and then we can respond to her
- 13:16:21 From: Liliane Mavridara : sounds good
- 13:16:23 From: marciaraffstudio : thanks Leslie
- 13:16:24 From: Shannon McArthur : Born to adore Her, We will restore Her
And we will discover through doing that work That the Hand of God -- Is Ours.
- 13:17:02 From: David S : @Shannon - Very nice expression of our co-creative potential… David Stoney
- 13:17:45 From: lesleysouthwick-trask : Beautiful Shannon
- 13:19:12 From: Daniel : It is not what happened, it is how it lives in you
- 13:19:31 From: Bruce Schuman : poisoning the earth -- is not a philosophical neutral thing..... we do need a moral/ethical value system that can help govern the earth.
- 13:19:33 From: marciaraffstudio : Shannon, Nice idea and I love that it’s dramatic.
- 13:19:49 From: Daniel : @bruce correct
- 13:20:49 From: Daniel : the switch is the amygdala
- 13:21:39 From: Diane Skidmore : Seems that default position for human beings is negative. So - the task of human beings is to rise above that default position!
- 13:22:17 From: Bruce Schuman : the emerging new moral/ethical law -- imho -- is "the good of the whole" this is the key to "a world that works"
- 13:22:52 From: Diane Skidmore : @Bruce yes, agree!!
- 13:23:55 From: Infinite Life : @Bruce agree with you we cannot condone poisoning the earth or any other environment. It stems From: intent and total selfishness and disregard for any other component of the universe.
- 13:24:31 From: Bruce Schuman : and it is also a key to creating co-creative "harmony on earth" at large scale -- it runs on absolute common denominators..... (good of the whole)
- 13:25:45 From: Bruce Schuman : @malini -- yes, insensitivity to the whole
- 13:26:03 From: lesleysouthwick-trask : @daniel I agree that the retelling the story over and over keeps us in the story
- 13:27:15 From: Shannon McArthur : g’mornin’ Kurt.
- 13:27:26 From: Daniel : You can read the story of Siddartha, missing ceremony
- 13:27:59 From: Infinite Life : is this hermen hess siddartha?
- 13:28:15 From: Daniel : it is always about Trump, this is his playbook
- 13:28:32 From: David S : Narada’s story about maya is very good. David Stoney
- 13:28:34 From: Daniel : yes same story, it is an old story
- 13:28:44 From: Daniel : yes maya
- 13:29:02 From: Daniel : many beautiful stories, they have deep meaning, not just philosphy
- 13:29:45 From: Daniel : I simplified the amygdala story
- 13:29:58 From: Infinite Life : Daniel - I had the good fortune of reading herman hess Siddartha and Jonathan living stone seagull back to back. it was transformational.
- 13:30:31 From: Daniel : I am always thinking, safety, protection, loving connection, soul connection, and moving the “other†forward
- 13:30:59 From: Daniel : the siddartha archetype is told by many firesides
- 13:31:10 From: Bruce Schuman : "the resonant circle" -- is the primal resonant container for collective human experience -- and it has rules that guard the wholeness and safety
- 13:31:16 From: Daniel : grandmother to grandchildren
- 13:31:20 From: Shannon McArthur : Daniel, who/what is “the Other� Is it the You I speak to (the collective I)
- 13:31:46 From: Daniel : the separation self, our personal story
- 13:33:45 From: Diane Skidmore : So if one creates safety and safe spaces for others, it never occurs that one is not safe. And also, if one has managed to encourage others to have a voice, one kinda has no need to have a voice - because the whole is 'OK'
- 13:33:52 From: Infinite Life : :The other: Khalil Gibran address this very beautifully. When you do not want to share - it the other, when you want to be specially identified then there is the other. and when you want to express compassion then you look for the other. That's one way.
- 13:33:59 From: Bruce Schuman : identity defined in property -- that is a dangerous force -- "the west was won with barbed wire and gunfire"
- 13:34:00 From: Shannon McArthur : Ah, I see - @Daniel, I think I refer to the “Other†as the small me…
- 13:34:39 From: Daniel : the tiny tiny tiny me
- 13:35:04 From: Liliane Mavridara : There is a beautiful book by David and Austin Perlmutter, Brain Wash, which explains the effect of social media/screen time, on the limbic/amygdala, etc.
- 13:35:05 From: Shannon McArthur : the small me has the power of choice.
- 13:35:52 From: Daniel : one of my patient, friend and teacher, wrote a book with David Perlmutter, Power up your Brain
- 13:36:08 From: Daniel : be skeptical of your reality
- 13:37:21 From: Karen Ball : totally agree.
- 13:40:15 From: Daniel : @shannon 100%, which can be paralyzing to writing your gift
- 13:40:32 From: Liliane Mavridara : Yes, Daniel
- 13:40:44 From: Stanley Pokras To Ed Prinselaar(privately) : I'd like to hear your comments. I'll ask you to say something...
- 13:41:08 From: Karen Ball : I think Thomas Merton is an example of reframing our knowledge and experience.
- 13:42:01 From: Daniel : fortunately, we are in the river, Dao, and the critic is on the shore. I remember the Paris speech by Theodore Roosevelt
- 13:42:25 From: marciaraffstudio : I’d like to play.
- 13:42:37 From: Shannon McArthur : YES, Marcia!
- 13:42:55 From: Daniel : I always up to play
- 13:43:03 From: Shannon McArthur : Yay, Daniel!!
- 13:44:25 From: Daniel : my daughter is biracial, so bright. We are deeply connected. She has a project on race and currently identification.
- 13:45:21 From: Daniel : which has gone into covid zone
- 13:46:00 From: Daniel : “dad you will never understand how it is to be bi-racialâ€
- 13:46:13 From: Liliane Mavridara : :)
- 13:46:34 From: Karen Ball : Liliane do you have ideas for living into spaces that allow everyone to feel loved, heard, and seen?
- 13:47:10 From: Shannon McArthur : it is hard to rise above the “goblin mud†that holds us back… the small me counselling safety.
- 13:48:30 From: Liliane Mavridara : Yes, and at the same time everything is a practice and exploration.
- 13:48:55 From: Liliane Mavridara : Happy to talk and explore further Karen.
- 13:50:09 From: Liliane Mavridara : Emotions? what emotions?
- 13:52:09 From: Daniel : bravo Ed, it is you
- 13:52:14 From: Daniel : us
- 13:52:27 From: Daniel : Ed where are you From: ?
- 13:52:37 From: marciaraffstudio : Daniel, I’d like to know what it means to be bi racial?
- 13:53:37 From: Daniel : Bi-racial means From: at least two very different racial and cultural brreakground in a particular community. It is interesting to which race the individual and how they identify
- 13:54:29 From: lesleysouthwick-trask : eprins@tbaytel.net
- 13:54:33 From: Karen Ball : Has HR ever had Father Richard Rohr speak?
- 13:54:49 From: Liliane Mavridara : no
- 13:55:26 From: Daniel : I had a patent, Father Von Bremen who taught re-spiritualization for priests, mostly in europe. I operated on him about 35 years ago, without charge. He regularly, until recently, would write me to thank me
- 13:55:29 From: Karen Ball : I think you could speak to Ed's suggestion. Rohr wrote a book called the Universal Christ.
- 13:56:32 From: marciaraffstudio : I wasn’t clear. Sorry. I was thinking about what your daughter said..that you’d never understand what means to be bi racial…and I’d like to know what she means? How it affects her life?
- 13:57:52 From: Daniel : It was a point in time, not for me to not support her. We are all multi racial.
- 13:57:56 From: Daniel : hast manana
- 13:58:00 From: Daniel : hasta
- 13:58:05 From: Daniel : what debate?
- 13:58:16 From: Daniel : I get my news here
- 13:58:30 From: Daniel : not fox news
- 14:00:05 From: Daniel : Thank you all, very rich discussions, as expected. Namah
- 14:01:10 From: Daniel : Daughters and sons have your deep underbelly
- 14:01:13 From: Shannon McArthur To Stanley Pokras(privately) : could you please leave the Room open for Lesley and I to talk?
- 14:01:30 From: Daniel : your body does lie, typically
- 14:01:32 From: Stanley Pokras To Shannon McArthur(privately) : This room is always open.
- 14:01:33 From: Daniel : with exceptions
- 14:01:37 From: marciaraffstudio : thank you Lesley
- 14:01:46 From: Daniel : thank you lesley
- 14:01:59 From: Shannon McArthur To Stanley Pokras(privately) : when you close it closes - perhaps give me co-host?
- 14:02:26 From: Daniel : the moon comes in through the window not the door, is it true?
- 14:02:28 From: Stanley Pokras To Shannon McArthur(privately) : I can leave and make you host as I leave.
- 14:02:40 From: Daniel : thank you Ed
- 14:02:41 From: marciaraffstudio : thank you Ed
- 14:03:20 From: marciaraffstudio : bye for noe stan