2021 07 05 CICOLab Chat
15:03:13 From Peter Kaminski to Everyone : Apologies in advance, I need to leave at the half.
15:04:06 From Jamen Shively to Everyone : Did you want to record this Lauren?
15:05:03 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : https://www.catalist.network/event/1621271939345x359898941126869000
15:06:02 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JyF93-iYxGyc4mj9IZvhKJwcETG4bL5yAABd5BeNjwM/edit
15:08:20 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : https://www.catalist.network/event/1621271939345x359898941126869000
15:09:04 From Franka to Stanley Pokras(Direct Message) : Check this link
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JyF93-iYxGyc4mj9IZvhKJwcETG4bL5yAABd5BeNjwM/edit
15:10:14 From Bill Anderson to Everyone : Vincent - thanks; scrolling down works
15:10:17 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : This link: https://www.catalist.network/event/1621271939345x359898941126869000
15:11:40 From Bill Anderson to Everyone : no matter where you are you are still here
15:12:11 From Laureli Shimayo to Everyone : I need to dash for another meeting. Happy to have been here with all of you. I love this group. Love what we do. I look forward to what is next (and summer is a wild time).
15:12:48 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Hover over the name - get more info?
15:14:29 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : MOGA great again? amazing
15:16:27 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Markhof is what?
15:17:06 From Freed Schmitter to Everyone : The place in Austria where this example is situated?
15:18:36 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Hold a position, play a role, "wear" a title?
15:21:03 From Robert Best to Everyone : the participant list has the right order technically.
15:22:15 From Bill Anderson to Everyone : These diagrams are so different from org charts. maybe a new name? like whole systems org diagram
15:22:30 From Erik H to Everyone : mapis a much better word than chart
15:24:23 From Wendy Elford to Everyone : Tom you might like to look at Holocentric
15:24:37 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : I had a question too!
15:27:47 From Freed Schmitter to Everyone : My ‚Wheel of Co-Creation’ presentation of 50 min is now on my youtube channel here https://youtu.be/NeC52SvqVqk
15:28:58 From Bill Anderson to Everyone : @Walter I hate the overuse of “roles”. Roles are theoretical; better to describe or label the actual work.
15:31:13 From Peter Kaminski to Everyone : Thanks all, it's good to see you all! Looking forward to seeing how things unfold through the summer. Off to other things for now.
15:32:23 From Tom Nixon (he/him) to Everyone : Thank you everyone! Here’s the tool. You can sign up for an onboarding call with me to try Maptio here: https://maptio.com
15:32:50 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : Thanks Tom!
15:33:10 From Tom Nixon (he/him) to Everyone : …and here’s my book if you’re interested :) https://tomnixon.gumroad.com/l/Piwhd
15:36:39 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : job descriptions —> impact statement
15:36:47 From Bill Anderson to Everyone : Tom: is there a way to render a maptio map as a typical org chart that shows a hierarchy?
15:37:32 From Tom Nixon (he/him) to Everyone : @bill we had the feature but then hid it as almost nobody used it! We might reinstate one day if there’s enough interest but usually people use Maptio because they don’t want the traditional view.
15:38:25 From Bill Anderson to Everyone : that makes sense. I’ll send you an email with a few thoughts.
15:38:37 From Tom Nixon (he/him) to Everyone : Thanks!
15:38:46 From Tom Nixon (he/him) to Everyone : My email is tom@maptio.com
15:38:53 From Michael Gaio to Everyone : yes, I love this notion of action / outcome based roles … much more dynamic than statitc
15:39:05 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : what is the end result we want to have?
15:39:16 From Michael Gaio to Everyone : this came onto my radar this week also (related);
https://learningecosystems2020.globaledufutures.org/?fbclid=IwAR0OF26-sdYtCmDzgX3r5-NDdSsP5OODpuTAjesNJotlRncnDODvio-QteU
15:40:12 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : I’d also like to respond to Wendy’s question!
15:40:57 From Michael Gaio to Everyone : ^ from above link :
“We identify a variety of roles and competencies ecosystem leaders play when cultivating learning ecosystems as well as the roles played by diverse actors within learning ecosystems – within a spectrum of what we call gardening and weaving in evolving learning ecosystems.”
15:41:03 From Stanley Pokras to Franka(Direct Message) : Hi Franka
15:44:42 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : I run a site that offers a directory of projects, programs and other creative things. I’m looking to interview you about the things you’re doing and the things (websites, books, projects, etc) that you thing other people should be able to find.
15:44:48 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Wish you were here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjpF8ukSrvk
15:46:30 From Michael Gaio to Stanley Pokras(Direct Message) : Hi Stan, you may be interested in some projects I’m working on
15:46:38 From Ximena Holguin to Everyone : Italian team Graziano, Bianca, Simon not here
15:47:25 From Erik H to Everyone : https://miro.com/app/board/o9J_l8UwQ64=/
15:47:28 From Michael Gaio to Stanley Pokras(Direct Message) : https://www.michaelgaio.com/
15:48:00 From Michael Gaio to Stanley Pokras(Direct Message) : what is your project website ?
15:48:08 From Freed Schmitter to Everyone : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JyF93-iYxGyc4mj9IZvhKJwcETG4bL5yAABd5BeNjwM/edit
15:48:14 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : Wendy to your previous point: I feel like an “impact role” could have many projects… i also feel like projects could have many roles :D
15:49:19 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : Ex) My impact role in CICOLAB is to help organize knowledge. Trove is a project that helps me carry out that role. But also that project needs help with organizing as a role XD
15:49:48 From Stanley Pokras to Michael Gaio(Direct Message) : My project is https://OtherNetworks.org
15:50:04 From Stanley Pokras to Michael Gaio(Direct Message) : Here’s an explanation https://othernetworks.org/Why_OtherNetworks%3F
15:55:50 From Wendy Elford to Everyone : Signal noise detection
15:55:57 From Tom Nixon (he/him) to Everyone : Hey everyone, thanks so much for having me. Seems like a good moment for me to duck out as you start the real work of the group! Good luck with it and hope to talk again sometime! Thanks again Lauren for the invitation. Bye!
15:55:57 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : I feel like they are very intertwined.
15:56:12 From Erik H to Everyone : definitely some overlap. agreed
15:57:04 From Stanley Pokras to Michael Gaio(Direct Message) : You can reach me as Stan@othernetworks.org 267-968-0407
15:57:59 From Rob Tyrie, Toronto Canada (Ironstone Advisory) to Everyone : must, go. thank you for everything. I am mobile and devices are depleted of energy. See you on the miro board .
16:02:46 From Marc Thibault to Everyone : marc@iealconvergence.com
16:03:20 From Marc Thibault to Everyone : marc@idealconvergence.com
16:03:23 From Marc Thibault to Everyone : Scrap the other oe
16:03:29 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : ok cool!
16:04:15 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : I believe that I am the person doing the recording. Let me know if you think you started recording before me.
16:05:43 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : harvesting with the intention to consume
16:06:34 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : I’m gluten free so that’s a death sentence for me
16:07:14 From Marc Thibault to Everyone : And quite a lot of fermentation
16:08:40 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : keeping open loops, unjarred-food
16:08:52 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : search across all knowledge tools
16:09:04 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : mapping across the fridge, pantry, grocery store
16:10:25 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : question: harvesting/curation difference?
16:10:36 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : making it public for others
16:11:24 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : question: is it about being able to put knowledge outside yourself or as an extension of yourself?
16:11:34 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : memex vs social bookmarking
16:13:54 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : you can have a tool that is used to go back to things and extend your memory or to share it with others, or both. and you may want to fill in and switch things between the two
16:14:00 From Marc Thibault to Everyone : My 1pm just showed up. Sorry I need to go. I’ll be looking for the recording.
16:14:46 From Marc Thibault to Everyone : Think of breadcrumbs Hansel & Gretel
16:15:20 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memex Vanevar Bush
16:16:07 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : in defense of that.....
16:16:42 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : contextual element of why it’s important
16:16:58 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : What are some examples of context? can we categorize context?
16:20:02 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : forever categories vs. temporary categories vs. shared categories
16:20:29 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : always an approximation
16:23:55 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : I could jump into the other room and invite him here XD not kidding haha
16:24:08 From Wendy Elford to Everyone : Please do ask him
16:25:37 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : Attempted to steal Mark… well see if he comes
16:27:47 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : we need bumble bees
16:28:00 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : I’d like to be in that
16:29:23 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : Would you guys like to see how my brain works with categories?
16:32:04 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : I can do a summary Mark if you’d like
16:32:11 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : (of our past conversation here)
16:33:30 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : you can now export Mark
16:35:53 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : John Verveake
16:37:08 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : breadcrumbs vs. the grain silo lol
16:38:32 From Freed Schmitter to Everyone : yes indeed lol
16:39:37 From Freed Schmitter to Everyone : attention is key
16:41:22 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : druging
16:41:52 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : web scraping is like drugding
16:43:36 From E Carney to Everyone : Great to be with you all, have to manage juice on device right now:)
16:43:40 From Jamen Shively to Everyone : I am recording THIS meeting now, FYI . . . and will continue doing so until & unless you ask me not to record now . .. Lauren
16:47:07 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Open the appropriate Zoom folder and you’ll see a message on each recording file that says “Double click to convert”
16:50:16 From Erik H to Everyone : effective and useful systems of categorisation are crucial
16:51:31 From Erik H to Everyone : vertical, horizontal and lateral connections
16:51:35 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : We also stole mark to do some cross pollination during the breakouts
16:58:16 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : I need to leave at the top of the hour - we are going to hang with some friends. It was great to see you all today!🙏🏼
17:03:01 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : If anyone needs help with rapid prototyping of your ideas, let me know :D
17:10:10 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : is the idea that the afterparty won’t be recorded? or may be recorded but not shared publicly sort of thing?
17:10:51 From Wendy McLean to Everyone : @ Vincent, she mentioned at the beginning that it’s not recorded
17:11:01 From Michael Gaio to Everyone : I’m on break too :)
17:11:04 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : Thanks Wendy :D
17:11:21 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : the knowledge repository, co-created of the Buckminster Fuller Institute: https://spaceshipearth.live/
17:12:40 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : and screensharing?
17:12:43 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : or breakouts?
17:12:46 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : yeah….
17:13:45 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : To join the CiC use this link https://communitymagic.org/mailman/listinfo/cic_communitymagic.org
17:14:05 From Walter Karshat to Everyone : Some technical difficulties, can launch a session.
walter@kinsys.com
Telegram: @wa_ka
17:14:30 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : Does anyone want to do a breakout after this to talk more about knowledge repositories?
17:14:45 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : we can post the zoom link here:
17:14:56 From Erik H to Everyone : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JyF93-iYxGyc4mj9IZvhKJwcETG4bL5yAABd5BeNjwM/edit
17:15:04 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : https://us02web.zoom.us/j/84236761960?pwd=T24vL3lYQ3Rla3NqUTZpSXJWaGMyQT09
17:15:08 From Jamen Shively to Everyone : Thanks Walter, Jamen also signing up to help folks get connected, any issues: jamenshively@gmail.com, cell: 206 251 0222 (US #)
17:15:14 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : Zoom link if you’d like to copy paste it^
17:16:32 From Judith Benham to Everyone : what lignin??