Day103HRChat
Humanity Rising Day 103 Chat Page
- Date: Friday September 25, 2020 (2020-09-25)
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Text of the Zoom Chat from HR Day 103:
From: Mushin Patric Roberts (11:01 AM) Good Morning ~ Your Rock Jim
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:01 AM) Good Morning this raining Friday in the woods of North Carolina
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:02 AM) Happy Friday Everyone!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:02 AM) Good Morning Jim, Mushin, and All… bless you, and remember to change the To: From: all panelists to include attendees.
From: Sharon Truax (11:02 AM) Good morning From: Stormy Seattle. Looking forward to heart coherence today. Peace be Still
From: Mushin Patric Roberts (11:02 AM) Beautiful Day Oglala Lakota County SD
From: Me (11:03 AM) Today is Day 103!!!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:03 AM) Doreen & Liliane & Sharon… all, From: KAM)loops BC Canada… exciting news!! yahooooo!!!
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:04 AM) @Jim, this is sooooo cool!!!!!!!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:04 AM) Yeah HR Netherlands’!
From: Kate Hansen Hansen (11:05 AM) Good day From: Minnesota!
From: Sharon Truax (11:05 AM) @jim Wonderful news!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:05 AM) Wow!!!!!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:06 AM) Fantastic Jim!!!! YAYA
From: Shannon McArthur (11:06 AM) Can’t keep a good Humanity down!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:06 AM) Change is Happening NOW!!!!!
From: Jen Forti (11:06 AM) Happy Friday and blessings From: Portland, OR!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:06 AM) tears of JOY!!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:06 AM) HR has made all the difference for me! So blessed to how all of you!
From: Sharon Truax (11:07 AM) There is so much good beyond the noise.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:07 AM) Togetherness!! <3
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:09 AM) the miracle of the Heart emerges.
From: Shannon McArthur (11:09 AM) Love you all…
From: Diane Skidmore (11:09 AM) Harmony xxxxx
From: Sharon Truax (11:10 AM) Yes, where two or more are gathered...…..Thank you all for the shift.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:10 AM) Thank you All toooooo xxxxx
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:12 AM) even nature had to shout.
From: Me (11:12 AM) In response to the activity in the Humanity Rising chats, the ChatPeople have been gathering after each Humanity Rising session. Additionally we have been communicating though an email list, now with over 90 members. In order to help make our interaction more useful, I have been publishing a summary of each day's session including the Humanity Rising Chat, the ChatPeople's Chat and a link to the recorded ChatPeople's Zoom session and a link to the day's Humanity Rising recording. Write to me and I will add you to the ChatPeople's email list. And Thanks to Jim and all the people and presenters at Humanity Rising. The Chat People love you. -- stan@communitymagic.org
From: Sharon Truax (11:12 AM) So profound.....nature
From: Shannon McArthur (11:12 AM) omg… sending that throughout us all - may our men be twice as effective!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:13 AM) In our neighborhood saw a black bear walking the streets….feeling free to roAM) ;0 From: Me (11:13 AM) . ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541 ========================== .
From: Jane Norton (11:13 AM) @Jim, can you put in the chat the nAM)e of the author of the quote " Humanity will only change when our intelligence comes From: our hearts>" Thanks!
From: Jon Harvey (11:14 AM) He said Friedrich Schiller
From: Suzanne Marie (11:15 AM) Wow, what a way to start the day. Go Netherlands! such wisdom From: the birds!
From: Jen Forti (11:15 AM) @Jim, what publication From: San Fran covered the bird mating call story?
From: Jim Garrison (11:16 AM) Frederich Schilling: “Our humanity will only change when our intelligence comes From: the heart.” National Geographic on the birdsong: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2020/09/pandemic-san-francisco-birds-song-improved/
From: Kala Perkins (11:18 AM) 🙏💙
From: Diane Skidmore (11:19 AM) The small screen is fine xxx
From: Shannon McArthur (11:20 AM) going forward… ; From: MALINI Rajendran (11:26 AM) that is why it is parAM)ount that humanity comes together to save the destruction of the AM)azon,.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:27 AM) @Malini Indeed
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:27 AM) otherwise we can expect a more powerful and devastating pandemic
From: Diane Skidmore (11:28 AM) yes The window is NOW
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:31 AM) w have to move towards de-urbanising. technology, has shown we don't need to be physically in one place to get the job done. our meeting via zoom being a classic exAM)ple.
From: David Stoney (11:31 AM) Dealing with the climate crisis in a humane way is our most important task. The human race has for the first time achieved the technological wherewith-all to break free of the climate whipsaw of the earth’s cycling climate. We survived it for the 3 million years of our evolutionary birthing process that brought us to this interglacial phase. That was God’s plan for our species. Now we must avoid squandering the one chance we have to create a thermostable planet. We need enough CO2 in the atmosphere to keep the world From: going into another ice age, but far too much is currently being added and we risk runaway global warming and sea level rise. Our God-given mission as co-creators is to prevent the worst effects of global warming. We will all have to reassess how we live and work, particularly those of us who live in so-called Developed countries. The alternative is possibly a catastrophe for everyone that would be just as bad as another ice age. - David Stoney
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:32 AM) we need to decentralise manufacturing like the Japanese did post world war. that way economies will be more sustainable and equitable.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:33 AM) Glad 'economic growth' was written but not mentioned by Chadia. De-growth is important! Again @Malini - Indeed Everything is connected!!!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:34 AM) Thriving NOT growth
From: Diane Skidmore (11:35 AM) Brilliant @Kathryn - Health above profit!
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:35 AM) Thank you so much for saying this. high time different organisations started speaking the sAM)e languange and building coherence.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:35 AM) Before (better than above) : From: Jen Forti (11:38 AM) Margaret Klein SalAM)on, in her book Facing The Climate Emergency, talks about how we need to enter into a WWII emergency response mode
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:39 AM) Public health and disaster management is unfortunately not made part of basic education. First aid and health care is not taught as mandatory part of school and college curriculum.
From: Shannon McArthur (11:39 AM) @Malini - “should” be
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:39 AM) @Jenn - yes, but the warm water feels soon good it is hard to recognize the potential for boiling…
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:40 AM) What is most important is the sharing of honest and true information From: the epicentre of a pandemic which was not done for covid=19
From: Diane Skidmore (11:41 AM) 'Normal' education is about how to get a job. We need education on how to be a person - healthy and happy! Thriving as part of a healthy and happy whole!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:41 AM) @Diane YES
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:41 AM) honesty is the best policy, but shAM)e and fear make it hard. Rewards for first announcements?
From: Jen Forti (11:41 AM) Yes @Kathryn and unfortunately when our own government’s response here in the US has been utterly deplorable and catastrophic it’s hard to see this emergency response happening From: the top.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:42 AM) @Jenn - right we need a work around
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:42 AM) brilliant Australian approach.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:43 AM) Interesting case. We also need to hold our governments to account over secret deals that they do to make profit - totally unrelated to a healthy planet!!
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:43 AM) I think we can here look at fundAM)ental rights under the Indian constitution. but depends how the cse is fAM)ed.
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:44 AM) @Chadia, thank you!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:44 AM) Lovely Chadi. Thank you - great pic of the world xx
From: Sharon Truax (11:44 AM) Thank you Chadia…..
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:44 AM) thankyou chadia- that was brilliant presentation.
From: Jen Forti (11:44 AM) Thank you Chadia !!
From: David Stoney (11:44 AM) Wonderful presentation, Chadia! - David Stoney
From: Diane Skidmore (11:44 AM)
- Chadia 0oops apologies xx
From: Mushin Patric Roberts (11:44 AM) Chadia great presentation can we get a copy of your slides?
From: Me (11:47 AM) In the United States, the Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund (CELDF) helps communities and groups defend the rights of people and nature. We are not a typical environmental organization. We assist communities to develop first-in-the-nation, groundbreaking laws to protect rights – including worker, environmental, and democratic rights, and rights of nature. CELDF provides free and low cost legal services, grassroots organizing, and education, to communities, states, and countries facing injustice. We help them to assert their rights to fight the harms they face. https://wikidelphia.org/Community_Environmental_Legal_Defense_Fund_(CELDF From: Jen Forti (11:48 AM) There
From: Jen Forti (11:50 AM) @Stanley, I worked with Community Rights US for a while here in Portland And there’s the Stop Ecocide organization who’s mission is making ecocide illegal. Another org I want to support! https://youtu.be/vZw0HWM9n8I
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:51 AM) in 2007 the IPCC was awarded the Nobel Peace prize and yet we are here in 2020 with the situation going From: bad to worse and the AM)azon being destroyed and From: what cladia showed us a pandemic.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:52 AM) A bit scary that corporations take governments to court for loss of profits alongside individuals standing up for human rights. Please can we have a united world that works for the good of all - happy and healthy plants, creatures, oceans, trees - all life!! Good that property rights come AFTER public health rights!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:53 AM) Young Repbulicans are MUCH more focused on climate change creating a potential split in the Republican party
From: Diane Skidmore (11:53 AM) Phew!! Good!! (The slide From: Jen Forti (11:53 AM) I hope so because they WILL be around to experience it
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:54 AM) Getting Republicans on board makes action much more likely - in the next administrations…
From: Diane Skidmore (11:55 AM) @Kathryn - because the Democrats are already on board maybe?
From: Jen Forti (11:56 AM) @Kathryn, The Lincoln Project gives me some hope 🤞🏻
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:56 AM) Much more - and yes not enough. competition between them - who is doing more would be nice!
From: Me (11:56 AM) @Jen - Thank you, I AM) adding Community Rights US to othernetworks.org
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:56 AM) emission trading was the worst idea humanity could have come up with. Thankfully carbon trading and cdm has not gone where it was targeted to go.
From: Chadia Wannous (11:56 AM) Thanks all for your kind words. I AM) happy to share the presentation with all through the organisers of the event
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:56 AM) Well done Chadia!
From: Jen Forti (11:57 AM) @Stanley, great!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:57 AM) Great news that these corp are being taken to court
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:57 AM) You've left out Cairn and Shell .
From: Jen Forti (11:57 AM) @Stanley, http://communityrights.us/
From: Shannon McArthur (11:57 AM) @Malini, glad you included them
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:58 AM) There is a strong movement targeting insurance and investment to stop their support and contributions to those industries that contribute to climate change. Tends agreements?
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:58 AM) well Polluter pays principle works to some extent But there are people at the base of every thing. people who are easy to corrupt..
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:58 AM) Tender agreements? Wild law!!1
From: Carlos Prosser (11:59 AM) We are workinkg in environmental education and climate change and we are considering the big impact of negative emotions in the lack of real actions to prevent it. In October 29 we Will present here our statements
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:59 AM) That's a powerful statement
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:59 AM) From: C. Stone
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:00 PM Tenders is where all the manipulation is done,
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:00 PM YAY Carlos - It will be great to hear From: and see you!
From: Kala Perkins (12:00 PM “Should trees have standing?”💚🌲🙏
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:00 PM @Malini say more.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:00 PM In the UK we have a lawyer who is doing more and more to represent trees!
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:00 PM That's because EIA studies are manipulated From: a homocentric point of view.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:01 PM Narayan YES, please!
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:01 PM Bangladesh problem is not drought but floods.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:01 PM He began by fighting a town council and helping residents to win the case - they were copping loads of trees! chopping
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:02 PM Legal model needs to adopt the doughnut approach. modify the doughnut economic model.
From: Barbro Esbjörnsdotter (12:02 PM Personhood to forests and rivers! Yes!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:03 PM @Malini - yes
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:04 PM Yes what do you do when the political branches are above the law on many matters and you have a commited judiciary.
From: Me (12:04 PM About the Crisis of DEMOCRACY and the Environment: The book that reveals the most important environmental and legal blockages to democracy and the rights of communities and nature is Ben G. Price's "How Wealth Rules the World"
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:05 PM Law should not be just the bridge it needs to be the basis of ensuring human rights, planet rights, waters rights. the world water law is probably the first step being taken.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:05 PM Citizens Assemblies are a good model for a way forward.
From: Me (12:06 PM How Wealth Rules the World https://wikidelphia.org/How_Wealth_Rules_the_World_%E2%80%93_Ben_G._Price
From: Diane Skidmore (12:07 PM Love this slide!!! UKI; Donut Economics; Renewable energy etc - OK - with the law as a bridge. Yes, Planet health at the centre!!! Ooops again UBI
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:08 PM Love this slide
From: Shannon McArthur (12:08 PM From: head to heart… bridge!
From: Diane Skidmore (12:08 PM @Narayan - sounds as if - if you and similar people to you are working for a better way - we might just make it!! Thank you
From: Me (12:08 PM The law has been written by wealth land holders and deals with Property, not health.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:08 PM Lawyers with Hearts!!!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:08 PM ty, Narayan
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:08 PM Thnkyou Narayan- wonderful presentation.
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:09 PM Thank you, it was great.
From: Barbro Esbjörnsdotter (12:09 PM Earth advocate, love that.
From: Sharon Truax (12:09 PM Great Presentation. Thank you for clarity and heart.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:09 PM @Stan - yes, that's the conflict our tree lawyer has - saving trees on the land of landowners!!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:10 PM where?
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:10 PM Ah property rights - they trump the value of human life currently, so what else has greater value? Legislated greed…
From: Diane Skidmore (12:11 PM Yes, property rights cause conflict Of course hahaha
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:12 PM They prevent solutions
From: Diane Skidmore (12:12 PM Time for Change - I think that's part of the light - the 'powers that be' are seeing that too!! That's why seeing potential ways to change (here on HR) is soooo wonderful!! We just need to share it further (and faster!! From: Jen Forti (12:14 PM Change From: the local up! Local and state governments trumping federal government
From: Kala Perkins (12:15 PM What is Unite Network? A reference to this?
From: Diane Skidmore (12:15 PM @Jen - that's the start. And then the top can follow and work From: the top down! Yaaaay - meet in the middle!!
From: Kala Perkins (12:16 PM unitenetwork.org
From: Shannon McArthur (12:16 PM thank you @Kala
From: Jen Forti (12:16 PM @Diane, yes, if the top has the will and ability to cooperate, otherwise render it obsolete
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:17 PM India Set up the National Green Tribunal (NGT) with overriding powers.
From: Sharon Truax (12:17 PM What a gift these 103 days have been to "stand still and see the......" with today's presentation more than a just a "glimmer" of a world that works for all.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:17 PM What is the role of lawyers in writing law? Is there any intention to writing laws that would support a thriving planet?
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:17 PM NGT Act 2010
From: Diane Skidmore (12:17 PM Hahaha - very happy for that - they've had their turn. Step away From: the table - please hahaha
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:18 PM @ Kathryn I think legislators write laws, They may be lawyers .
From: Rachel Root (12:19 PM Thank you for all you are doing!!
From: Me (12:19 PM . ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541 ========================== . We also have an email list for Chat People to interact without being on at the sAM)e time. Write to be added to the list: -- stan@communitymagic.org ========================== . ..oOo..
From: Diane Skidmore (12:19 PM @Kathryn - I think they can contribute - it's all heading for change so - whoever does it now - there may be others soon!! Maybe even designed by Climate Assemblies!
From: Kala Perkins (12:19 PM UNITE is a global network of ParliAM)entarians committed to ending infectious diseases as a global threat.
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:20 PM In India, Departments and committees come up with a draft proposal , which is then sent to the law ministry and finally tabled in the parliAM)ent as a bill and then when it is adopted and signed by a presidential ordinance becomes an act,
From: Sharon Truax (12:20 PM Yes., @jim it is so obvious......Thank the panel for taking this on.
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:20 PM Great Presentation!!!!
From: Diane Skidmore (12:20 PM Thank You ALL - very interesting and INFORMATIVE!!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:20 PM thank you Jim
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:21 PM Thank you Jim for Monday’s presentation I welcome it. So trebbling
From: Me (12:22 PM NOTE: Indigenous People's Day is in October
From: Chadia Wannous (12:22 PM https://mirror.unhabitat.org/categories.asp?catid=690
From: Diane Skidmore (12:22 PM Wow Jim!! Brave!! And seeing as you come From: the heart every day - gosh!! Let's hope it's an opportunity for your words to travel across the planet and be shared far and wide!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:22 PM The division was seen at RBG lying in STATE today. So sad !
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:22 PM @Chadia, thank you for these resources.
From: Kurt Krueger (12:22 PM Hunter Lovins, is on now - https://zoom.us/j/91337498963.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:23 PM Gosh. Didn't know that Donald had gone so far as to reject the result before it even happened.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:23 PM @Kurt - thanks!!!
From: Diane Skidmore (12:23 PM andgosh - thanks @Kurt!!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:24 PM Yes…Thank you Bernie Sanders for coming out and being the first to announce it.
From: Carlos Prosser (12:24 PM Go USA, Bye Bye Mr. Trump
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:24 PM Thanks for the agenda email - I share it!
From: Kate Hansen Hansen (12:24 PM thank you, Jim.
From: Kala Perkins (12:24 PM The US isn’t used to this happening on our soil, though we’re promoted it in so many other countries!! Integrity crisis as the mirror bends back!
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:25 PM Thank you Everyone, much love! I wish I could hug somebody, I would squizze them so hard!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:25 PM We need poll counters From: the UN
From: Chadia Wannous (12:25 PM Thanks great discussions and chats
From: Kala Perkins (12:25 PM Thank you!
From: Diane Skidmore (12:25 PM Seed happy thoughts - every minute - for the universe
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:25 PM Folks I’m going to check out Hunter, so I won’t be on today.
From: Sharon Truax (12:25 PM Would love to chat, however I have to hed into the market place. >