2021 05 24 CICOLab Chat

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CICOLab Chat List

15:05:34 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : Hello for this fine Monday from Philadelphia

15:05:41 From Marc Thibault to Everyone : Unfortunately, I’ll need to leave at the hour.

15:06:53 From Ras Moshe Burnett to Everyone : hey!

15:07:09 From Ras Moshe Burnett to Everyone : listening in motion..

15:10:43 From Bill Anderson to Everyone : the BS is in the center, am i right?

15:15:57 From Ras Moshe Burnett to Everyone : joining in from the green mountain region. had to be outside today.

15:20:39 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : The Tao gives birth to the One

The One gives birth to the Two

The Two gives birth to the Three

The Three gives birth to the 10,000 things

~The Tao td Ching

15:21:29 From Bill Anderson to Everyone : THomas: what is the book you held up?

15:23:48 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : What would Sun Ra do?

15:24:54 From charles blass to Everyone : Thomas's book is:  The Execution of Sun Ra

https://www.baltimoresun.com/citypaper/bcp-thomas-stanleys-new-book-the-execution-of-sun-ra-blasts-off-with-free-jazz-philosopher-20141201-story.html::

15:27:19 From charles blass to Everyone : 'dominion' as 'property'

15:28:07 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : dominion (n.)

mid-15c., "lordship, sovereign or supreme authority," from Old French dominion "dominion, rule, power" and directly from Medieval Latin dominionem (nominative dominio), corresponding to Latin dominium "property, ownership," from dominus "lord, master," from domus "house" (from PIE root *dem- "house, household").

In law, "power of control, right of uncontrolled possession, use, and disposal" (1650s). From 1510s as "territory or people subject to a specific government or control."

British sovereign colonies often were called dominions, hence the Dominion of Canada, the formal title after the 1867 union, Dominion Day, the Canadian national holiday in celebration of the union, and Old Dominion, the popular name for the U.S. state of Virginia, first recorded 1778.

15:28:50 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : From etymoline.com

15:30:11 From charles blass to Everyone : ::::This planet is like a prison.

I try to set people free.

I observed this planet from other planets

I experienced and what I saw

in my music ::::  Sun Ra

15:32:53 From charles blass to Everyone : Sun Ra did a bunch of Disney music as well :-)

15:34:32 From charles blass to Everyone : right on joshua

15:34:49 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : Maybe try a storyline like this:

One day some people came together in a Cicolab call and they…

Gradually they discovered that…

And then they….

And that resulted in….

15:35:31 From charles blass to Everyone : Disney - kids love it, it's timeless; but yea Joshua love your reminder

15:36:53 From charles blass to Everyone : Do what Robert Best thinks :-P

15:37:58 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : Let’s use the writer’s process from The Simpsons!

15:38:19 From charles blass to Everyone : we like it when you say stuff

15:38:31 From Angela Winter to Everyone : Bill Anderson — thank you, that’s lovely

15:39:04 From charles blass to Everyone : the unlearning has gone well, william

15:39:31 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : ::https://vimeo.com/84277380::

Sun Ra Version - Pink Elephants on Parade.

15:39:44 From charles blass to Everyone : Classic, thx Mark

15:40:07 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : From CD "Stay Awake"

15:40:39 From thomasstanley to Everyone : Right on, Mark! The Tom Waits track is hip, too.

15:41:57 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : Jay Golden’s story format!

15:42:22 From Marc Thibault to Everyone : We all love Jay …

15:42:28 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : 1. Have social/emotional intelligence

15:42:34 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : 2. Be aware of your impact

15:42:39 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : 3. Add women to the team

15:42:48 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : 4. Kindness/courage/respect/listening deeply

15:42:55 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : Holding multiple perspectives in mind

15:43:47 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : Conversation on race: could’ve gone so wrong.

15:49:30 From Bill Anderson to Everyone : conversing in a functional way - that happens in cicolab events

15:49:39 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : MIT’s Center for Collective Intelligence says the following three elements are foundational to creating the conditions for the emergence of CI:

• Social perceptiveness - recognizing our impact on others when we speak

• Turn taking in conversations

• Adding women to the group

My time with Cicolab has convinced me that the following are also critical:

• Compassion

• Curiosity

• Kindness

• Deep listening

• Willingness to examine our positions in light of new evidence

• Diversity of participants

• Silence

• Courage

• Love - in Maturana’s terms: granting legitimacy to each other

• Holding multiple perspectives without becoming overly attached to any of them

15:54:51 From charles blass to Everyone : I'm all for that Erik

15:54:56 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : We are trying to become part of a greater whole: stop saying “I think…” and say “Could it be that…?”

15:54:57 From Bill Anderson to Everyone : distinguish what happens in the flow-show events from other events?

15:57:59 From Bill Anderson to Everyone : cicolab an experimental space

15:58:21 From charles blass to Everyone : key here is the knowledge repository

16:00:22 From thomasstanley to Everyone : The publication of Personal Knowledge in 1958 shook the science world, as Michael Polanyi took aim at the long-standing ideals of rigid empiricism and rule-bound logic. Today, Personal Knowledge remains one of the most significant philosophy of science books of the twentieth century, bringing the crucial concepts of "tacit knowledge" and "personal knowledge" to the forefront of inquiry.In this remarkable treatise, Polanyi attests that our personal experiences and ways of sharing knowledge have a profound effect on scientific discovery.

16:01:04 From Marc Thibault to Everyone : Thank you all. I’ll be back next Monday

16:02:35 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : I can’t hear anything

16:05:24 From Bill Anderson to Everyone : and now we are representing the wind on Mars and whales in the ocean as sounds we humans can hear

16:06:16 From thomasstanley to Everyone : That’s important, Bill.

16:08:39 From Ras Moshe Burnett to Everyone : I'm on the phone this time. Hope I didn't talk over anyone! dont have the full gallery view.

16:09:53 From charles blass to Everyone : all fine Ras

16:10:23 From Ras Moshe Burnett to Everyone : Cool....heliocentric..

16:10:50 From charles blass to Everyone : hi @Kris !!

16:10:59 From charles blass to Everyone : hi @Elizabeth !!

16:11:14 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : Kris! Hi!

16:11:30 From Kris Is to Everyone : hey lauren! look who I brought ;-)

16:15:17 From Joshua Bridge to Everyone : Thanks everyone for a great conversation and Happy Birthday Robert 🎉/arrival sun ra day!!! Hope to come back if you wonderful people are still on...

16:17:10 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : Thanks Ken :D Reminder here’s some quick links to the appreciation bytes form, hot seat form.... ::https://www.catalist.network/community/cicolab?tab=Links::

16:18:05 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : Thanks Vincent!

16:18:28 From Erik H to Everyone : I liked, I learned, I wish, I wonder is great too

16:19:00 From Erik H to Everyone : as a plenary

16:22:00 From Angela Winter to Everyone : Love meeting you all…thanks for being so welcoming! Thanks to Prof. Stanley for sharing your thoughts on and experiences of Sun Ra…fascinating and a great launching point for exploration. With deep appreciation for you all. Hope to join you again.

16:23:45 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : re: firstness, secondness, thirdness and semiotics:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Sanders_Peirce#Theory_of_categories::

16:24:00 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : @Bill - I was the County coordinator for BPF here in Marin!

16:24:30 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : Idea to build on Lauren’s idea of signaling: Emoji library that lets us vote all at the same time without talking on where to steer the conversation or what type of roll to pass it to. 💡= idea, ❓= question, 🎁 = summary/24-0

16:24:49 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : Love that Vincent!

16:27:51 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : What might some other roles/reactions/signals might be...?

16:28:45 From Vincent Arena to Everyone : 🥴 = clarify/confused?

16:29:23 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : Mac OS - I do not have the 3 dots - I only see 9 reactions  + raise hand

16:29:52 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : Ken, me too!

16:30:43 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : Add music, we talk to the music

16:31:04 From thomasstanley to Everyone : You can get it to work.

16:33:36 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : Anyone else on Mac OS you can access the emojis under the Edit menu - bottom item…

16:33:50 From Bill Anderson to Everyone : yes, ken, i can see the dots

16:34:01 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : YAY! Thanks, Ken! I was feeling so flustered

16:34:44 From charles blass to Everyone : (On Ka'a Davis speaking)

16:35:00 From Mark Carranza to Everyone : to On my windows desktop:

16:36:18 From Bill Anderson to Everyone : ken & others here is what i see on macOS:

16:37:10 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : What I see...

16:38:55 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : This is a great group… however I have a responsibility in my house. Be well everyone and be happy!

16:38:56 From Bill Anderson to Everyone : no explanation for that ken. your Zoom  app up to date?

16:41:22 From Lauren Nignon to Everyone : I would like to enable a situation where we could draw on everyone for leadership!!

16:42:18 From Ken Homer • San Rafael CA to Everyone : @Bill - there is a newer update available - I’ll handle that after this call - nice catch!

16:43:23 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone : ::https://philadelphiaencyclopedia.org/archive/jazz/::

16:44:51 From Karin to Stanley Pokras(Direct Message) : Hello! Just to give you some type of return today, I did start to look at your categories. I will continue to dig into them: they made sense to me - they are sophisticated, because they are approachable and simple! Afterwards, I’ll get back to you with some questions, okay?

16:48:18 From Robert Best to Everyone : only when you are unmuted

16:51:22 From Stanley Pokras to Karin(Direct Message) : I’ll be happy to discuss the categories with you. I see them as a way to paint a portrait of a item. They can be read as a sentence about their target. I can be reached as stan@othernetworks.org or 267-968-0407 and you should feel free to reach out any time.. Thanks for your interest.

16:52:00 From Stanley Pokras to Karin(Direct Message) : I’m going to get off now. But if you’d like to talk you can text me…


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