Transcript for HR Day 679
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:25:37
We are part of nature, but humanity have decided to destroy the live support system that we depend on.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:25:40
I came up with this idea. In fact, it's something that have been disturbing me so much like people doing.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:25:48
The same things, adding different results. But I was trying to think, how can we do things differently?
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:25:58
How can we be able to bring the knowledge of our didinous people, the knowledge of our our forefathers, so that we can be able to see how we can be able to build a future that is better.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:26:14
How can we promote local creative solutions to bring people and plan to benefit people and plan it?
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:26:25
That's how homegrown sustainability solution was born and what I'm trying to do with other women, because I'm not a working alone.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:26:38
I'm based in Africa, and I'm working from Kenya.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:26:41
And what I try to do is to divide indigenous and local knowledge for enhanced ecosystem governance, using community dialogue and agriculture mapping so dialogues.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:26:56
What we do is to make sure we bring people in the same village together.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:27:02
We give them up on opportunities to have a dialogue, to talk to each other, to discuss a lot of, to come together, purposely to discuss how things used to happen.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:27:14
How are things happening now? And what is the kind of future we would want to have?
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:27:22
And that's take us to agriculture, marketing, an Eccocure mapping is a participatory process that help in reconnecting with the past, understanding.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:27:36
The present are visioning the future, so bringing people together from the same village.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:27:44
We have 3 steps that work together. We start with the ancestral map. How?
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:27:51
Are things then, and we bring together people from all age sets people who are young, old, and women, men and all that.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:28:02
Different people from the village and the main reason is to learn more what, how things, how are things, how are things happening in the past?
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:28:14
What? What was the relationship between nature and the environment? How well was the forests!
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:28:21
How? Oh! There are some streams that have dried, and they will be able to bring out the animals.
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The wild drive, the trees, the native trees that used survive in their in in their locality.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:28:37
The next step is to to have another, and it is a little drawing whereby they stay together.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:28:45
They will be able to draw their village and start. In. This was a forest.
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This was a stream. This used to be a native forest. This used to be everything, so they are able to draw the whole.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:29:01
If there were a worldwide, then they are even to draw them.
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That's that to me is so amazing, and people are reconnecting with the past.
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How things used to happen in that past. Then the next one is that the current situation, how?
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:29:18
What is the situation? What is the current situation? What is the present? The current situation?
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How is the rivers? Do we have this? And they will be able to draw.
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Then we go to the next part, which is the much state of land which the community and their envision to to move towards.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:29:44
How this one is that, like envisioning actions. So what 2?
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:29:53
Engines do you want to have in your localities? They are able to tell us how they will be able to plant trees?
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What kind of trees they want to plant, what others will say, that these are some of the initiatives that we want to do.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:30:09
These are these, they will be able to outline, in order to make sure that they have a future that they deserve the future that they want, then they are able to bring that out, and when they bring that out it is.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:30:26
So full!
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That!
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Come out!
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And that is when that's that's where I focus every.
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How can I then look for? To go to that desired state and to me that have been an amazing initiative.
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It is not a very old initiative, but we are progressing well.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:30:59
I have held several of those initiative, and the communities that I am working with feel so fulfilled and feel like they own the initiative.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:31:09
They feel like, okay, we want to go here. So this is what we need to do.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:31:15
So it's amazing. And I feel like I want to do more of this because and also bring in more people to come and do similar things, because I have seen people just making decisions or developing projects going and taking it to the communities thinking that is their problems.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:31:38
But I want to say that before we introduce new knowledge to the communities, to people in their local context, we need to understand that they also have their knowledge.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:31:49
We need to people to adapt that knowledge and bring it out.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:31:54
Give them an opportunity to dialogue and talk it out, because there's issues a lot of issues that are facing our environment.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:32:04
We can be able to sort them. The charges that we have a lot of them.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:32:11
It's possible to sort them out without. And the communities know them better.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:32:18
Than anybody any outsider. It is time that we try to empower people on the ground.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:32:25
It's time that we need to work together, because the solution that we seek already lies within our ideal sculpture and our creativity.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:32:36
Thank you so much.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:32:44
Well, thank you. We can totally feel all of your energy.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:32:49
And what you are doing and shifting the planet just through your voice.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:32:53
Through your heart and soul, and the work that you are doing, as you know.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:32:57
I know, and you know how much I appreciate and love the work that you're doing beyond any time that we have today to even go into it is there's so many depth, so much depths to how you are working with the community and rescuing the knowledge from the elders and bringing
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:33:15
that forward. But you know, I just want to mention in particular this cultural mapping that you're doing.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:33:23
It is a significant way. It's a significant idea that it could actually make difference all around the planet if we looked at and mapped out in Drew, and it wouldn't matter what language we speak, because we can draw where the water was where the trees are where our homes were we can
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:33:46
visualize the future of what we want, and we can obviously see where we're at.
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And we're kind of in that place in between, and it gives an opportunity for hope.
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And it actually creates the opportunity for change. And it's such a creative jewel that you know that I'm I'm coming to help in one way or another.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:34:11
So we'll we'll work together. I know that, and thank you so much for sharing with us today.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:34:18
Thank you so much. I do appreciate, and I'm always happy to give to give back to the communities and do my best and thank you all for your appreciation.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:34:31
Always happy to do the best for this planet. It is our planet, and we are part of it.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 11:34:37
Thank you so much, Teresa. A delight for me to hear you, and I want to note the way a pattern is evolving from our series of how this personal collective creativity, rising transmission happens.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 11:34:58
And can you see the thread from the deep listening that Dr.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 11:35:02
Emery Shamat spoke of yesterday, and that Stella Osrojos Eisenstein spoke to in terms of her Mom movement.
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The gathering of women. To what Theresa Mayoni is speaking of listening deep, listening to the people, and the solutions already being there.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 11:35:26
This is key. It's simple, and it is direct.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 11:35:31
It relates to Jim's opening that we go to the people.
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It is a bottom up, creativity rising just as the voice of the earth rises through Claire Hideen.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 11:35:45
That message from the groundswell is the direction. That's also the message of Rebecca Solnit, and I am so happy that you are bringing in the voice of Africa.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 11:36:01
We will have the voice of Africa again tomorrow with Dr.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 11:36:08
Usman Alipam, from Senegal.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 11:36:11
We are opening to the brilliance of our kin around the world.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 11:36:18
Thank you, Teresa.
[Teresa Muthoni] 11:36:22
Thank you so much.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:36:22
Thank you. Hmm! As if we're not full enough.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:36:29
I'm going to now introduce to you another dear friend of mine.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:36:34
I have to say this. We worked together. Mary Reynolds Thompson, can you please make yourself visible for us?
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:36:42
I think I am visible. I'm also blinded by the light.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:36:47
Maybe it would help if I shut that window a bit with that.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:36:50
Sure!
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:36:52
Yes, feeling like.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:36:57
While you're doing that I'll introduce Mary Mary Reynolds Thompson is the founder of Live.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:37:04
Your wild soul story, she's an award winning author, facilitator of poetry, therapy, and a pioneer in the emerging field of spirit ecology.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:37:18
Mary has created a unique program of transformation based on 5 Earth archetypees.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:37:24
That map, a journey into the depths of our untamed souls.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:37:29
She speaks and gives workshops around the world, reclaiming the wild soul with a 2,015 Nationalist award winner, a wild soul woman, 5 earth, archetypes to unleash your full feminine power.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:37:47
Recently launched, which I'm aware connected to to learn more.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:37:54
Well, we'll put up your link later. But welcome, Mary.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:37:58
But welcome. I'm so happy that you're here, and I just can't wait till everyone can hear what she, what you're bringing to the world, to the planet, into the heart of women. Hmm!
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:38:09
Thank you, dear, dear Kathleen, who did the illustrations for a wild sold woman.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:38:16
And thank you, Jim, so much for taking us back 80 years and telling us the story of such courage.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:38:25
And dear Claire, for starting us off with your incredible voice and your marvelous shrewty, I I hope I've said it correctly, and Theresa, I was just so moved by what you had to say, and particularly this sense of lineage of looking back to look forward of this continuity continuity
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:38:49
continuum, and this sort of eco-cultural mapping just extraordinary so we're here to talk a little bit about healing, and I think it's very interesting that the root of the word healing shares its root with the word wholeness and holy and I
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:39:11
think the biggest thing that I am going to point to today is that in order to be whole, thus, in order to heal, we need to honor our creativity in a sense, every act of creativity, whether it's that dazzling courageous resistance, Jim told us about whether it's about mapping
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:39:40
our world, whether it's singing or poetry, or anything like that, actually reminds us that we are connected to the whole.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:39:51
That's we are not discrete, separate human beings, and I want to begin by reading a beautiful poem by Lisa Mula, which I think speaks to this very much, and it's called Monet.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:40:08
Refuses the operation.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:40:12
Doctor, you say there are no halos around the street lights in Paris, and what I see is an aberration cool by old age and aliction.
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I tell you it has taken me all my life to arrive at the vision of gas lamps as an angels.
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To soften and blur, and finally banish the edges.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:40:38
You recoret. I don't see to learn that the line I called the horizon does not exist in sky and water so long a part of the same state of being 54 years before I could see rural cathedral is built of parallel parallel shafts of sun and now
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:41:01
you want to restore my youthful errors, fixed notions of top and bottom depletion of 3 densional space, mysterious wisteria separate from the bridge.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:41:17
It covers. What can I say to convince you? The Houses of Parliament dissolve night after night to become the fluid dream of the Thames?
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I will not return to a universe of objects that don't know each other.
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As if islands were not the lost children of one great continent.
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The world is flux, and light becomes what it touches, becomes water lilies on water above and below.
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Water becomes lilac and move, and yellow and white and cerulean lamps, small fists passing sunlight so quickly to one another that it would take long streaming hair inside my brush to catch it, to paint the speed of light are weighted shapes these verticals burned to mix with
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air, and change our bones, skin clothes to gases, doctor, if only you could see how heaven pulls earth into its arms, and how infinitely the heart expands to claim this world.
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Vapor without end.
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So I think creativity dissolves boundaries, and I think that's incredibly important.
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And so much of our modern world wants us to see things objectively and scientifically, but, in fact, in this poem Monet is saying, please don't give me the operation.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:43:08
Don't make me so-called normal, because what I am seeing is a deeper truth, a deeper truth about the interconnection, the interdependency.
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How we each dissolve into the other!
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So wholeness, this connection to wholeness is so essential to healing, and the opposite of that in in a way, is what I call the shadow.
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Wild, and that's the sense that I think we all have experienced a trauma that separated us from the body of the mother earth that cut the embilical cord that said that the earth was just inert.
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It was matter that didn't matter, and we were the only ones with consciousness.
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And the truth is that when you experience the world that way, it leads to this tremendous whole inside of you, right?
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Something is missing. This deep primal connection to our mother planet is missing.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:44:24
And so in our society, it becomes so easy to become this consumer society, constantly trying to fill that whole that can never, never be filled right, because what fills it is not, you know, the latest car or this bit of flash or blame or anything the only thing that will fill it is knowing that we are
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:44:53
part of this blessed earth, and one of the ways we go back to that is, through our creativity.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:45:02
So creativity is so the opposite of consumerism, right?
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:45:07
It's about generativity. It's about filling ourselves up so that our what's inside of us can flow to the outside so that we can be in a call and response with the world we can give to the world of what's important to us.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:45:28
We can give our voices and our love, and our art, and our dance, and our resistance, and our courage.
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All of these things. So it's really the opposite of taking.
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It's deeply embedded, in a sense of well-being and wholeness that allows you to say I could do this.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:45:51
I can give back. You know I have a voice, so we take what is in us, and we give it to the world, and thus we help to make the world more whole.
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We become, what Claire Duboir calls a restorer species.
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So I will propose that creativity helps to restore us.
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It was stores balance to the world on a very personal level.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:46:25
When I was 27, almost 40 years ago. Now I got sober.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:46:31
I was a fearsome alcoholic, and when I first got sober, if you would ask me, what do you want?
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:46:42
Who do you like? What do you love? I wouldn't have been able to tell you.
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I completely lost sense of who I was. I didn't know anything about, you know.
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I just followed what anybody else said, really, and it seems as though I spoke in a 1 million tongues, and not one of them was my own.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:47:06
But very slowly I began to write again, and that process was really interesting, because I would try.
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It was like I was trying to find that voice that was my voice, and the wonderful poet Marge, PC.
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Talks about. We must unlearn, not to speak.
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Now notice the phrasing of that we must unlearn not to speak so.
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She's not saying we must learn to speak. We have been taught not to speak.
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We have taught, been taught to be silence. We have been shamed into keeping our creativity to.
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It's ourselves to locking it down. So for me.
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This was that fearsome moment of the blank page, trying, trying, trying, trying to find out who I was through writing, and I live.
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You know I was born in England, live in America and Americans are quite from the simple.
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The clarity of sentences. They're looking at Hemingway in their approach.
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At times, and of course I found that my writing wasn't like that, and what was interesting is that when I began to gather my own voice, and it gathered within me it was very Celtic.
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It was very much in that Celtic poetic kind of voice, and so it didn't just bring me to myself.
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It brought me back to what Theresa talked about my ancestry to my path.
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So creativity is healing because it reveals Aprilals us to ourselves.
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If we have a creative practice, it is not only a gift to the planet, it is a gift to us because we discover more of our own milestones, and we learn what we're capable of, and the more you create the more you realize it doesn't matter.
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If it's messy or mad cap or idiosyncratic.
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In fact. Yes, to all of that. Yes, to the imperfection of it.
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Yes, to all of that, because that's what makes it sacred.
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That's what makes it holy, is. It comes wholly from us.
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So whatever your path of creativity, whether it's cooking of great meal, whether it's, you know, singing as beautifully as Claire, or illustrating as brilliantly as characleen know that it's incredibly that you do put something of yourself into the world and it's
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:49:45
important in 2 very specific ways, one, that you acknowledge that there is a you.
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That has a voice that has an opinion that has a dream, an imagination that has something to offer, and 2 that the world needs that gift that you bring as surely as it needs flowers to bloom, rivers to run an air to flow the world itself is not complete without the piece that you put into
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:50:24
it so every place we damn and stop our creativity, I would say, is not only a place of self harm, it harms the planet that we are here for a purpose, and that what is in you really really matters, and 2, if every time we express our creativity in whatever way is a place of self-love and healing for
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the planet.
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Creativity can be destructive too, and we know that.
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So this is where it's really important to kind of work through our own stuff, and to make sure that we're not using creativity to manipulate as an ego driven thing, but as really truly a contributing as loving this world.
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And loving and supporting each other in my world.
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It's about finding that wild authenticity. It's about coming to that place of being untamed and unashamed to really and truly expl something that is very, very deep inside of us.
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And I have a question. Do I have time to tell a very short story?
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:51:46
I haven't been following the time.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:51:47
Yes, you do.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:51:49
Okay, so.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:51:54
A few years ago my husband and I attended a incredible exhibit of Australian indigenous women's art at the Anthropology Museum in British Columbia, and what was so extraordinary was that these women had never been allowed to paint before?
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So the Australian indigenous women, weavers, and craftspeople, but the men with the painters.
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But times change, and they were allowed now to face the canvas and to paint.
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And I thought about that. I thought about the courage it takes to face that blank canvas, and I thought about the first indigenous Australian woman he must have picked up her paintbrush, her heart and her mouth trembling honored, excited, unknowing perhaps what would unfold and she put
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:53:07
that first DAB of paint on that canvas, and then another, and when I looked at these amazing paintings, amazing paintings in this museum, it looked like galaxies.
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It looked like all of a held on these campuses. In fact, they were.
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These sugar plant blossoms that are native to much of the Australian outback, but they look like galaxies and stars, and they held the whole world, and I think in my heart that when we create from that place of deep courage and wild authenticity we have the power to hold all of us to hold
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the whole world, no one and nothing left out. All of us interconnect, interdependent, working with each other to co-create, co-evolve, and move us towards this deep planetary healing that we are all crying out.
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And if I may, I would like his now to right. Hey, little Poll!
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Together. So if you would put in chat, my creativity is, and just right.
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2 or 3 words, 4 words. My creativity is, it can be.
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My creativity is rain in a desert. My creativity is slow to move.
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It doesn't matter just right. My creativity is, and I won't be able to read everyone out.
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But together we'll create a poem. How do I read my chat?
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Let's see.
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Do, Kathleen? Is it possible to? How do I look at all my chat?
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Participants, chat.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:55:25
You should be able to see it at the bottom.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:55:28
There, and chat no!
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:55:30
I let's see. Let's see, I'm going.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:55:35
I'm going down. I am. Think I'm getting married.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:55:39
Okay. Let's see.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 11:55:43
We can start reading while you search for it.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:55:48
Let me just!
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:55:49
She is going to read it into a poem. If okay.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:55:51
Yeah, okay, I've got it. Okay. I'm gonna start by.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 11:55:55
Oh, great!
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:55:57
Yeah.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 11:55:57
I'm starting anybody I miss out, please. It's not.
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It's just it'll be as it will be.
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But your just know that your words are in that, even if I don't speak them.
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My creativity is boundless and connected to yours. Bursts of energy inspired by the stories of magic, I embody.
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Is my voice and sanctuary. My creativity is not for sale, healing with my hands.
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Rocking chair. Moments on my front porch with the trees and frog bursting forth to walk in.
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Nature, barefoot is sweet. Pink buds opening, and so silence blooming it's the strength of the mountain to the south is creating gardens and bringing people together is the heartbeat of cosmos singing love into forms and formulas of life.
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Is Mother Earth curriculum for children is my life.
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Chalk is my life, my creativity is resonating with life is medicine, childlike and playful is a finger pointing to the moon is seeing the humanity in all its radiating from my heart.
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My creativity is fed by your cosmic springs in blood, and light is saving Jesus from Christianity.
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It splashes of paint, words of essence, fluxes.
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My creativity is shared and combined with yours.
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Thank you. Everybody.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:57:36
Oh, wow! Thank you, Mary. I'm gonna you know. Get that out of the chat and we'll put it all together online somewhere.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:57:43
And share widely that together. Isn't it amazing?
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:57:49
All of the voices. They feel like they were written.
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Say by the same person, by the same shared heart, really beautiful, really, really beautiful, and thank you for your always.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:58:00
Your exquisite poetic way of speaking and sharing your love and your caring I've written so many notes here that I don't even know where to begin, but I love the story that you that you told at the end.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:58:15
So I'm really glad that you brought that in. I didn't know that, and I need to look up to see where the women were kept from their canvas, and the other parts that were really important to me is the the imperfection is the sakeredness and in creativity and I
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:58:34
know a lot of us try to be perfect, and we try to stay on that edge, especially with creativity, that they think we been told that it's a special gift from heaven.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:58:44
You know that this perfection that we need to be, and even during art school I knew that wasn't right, you know.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:58:51
I heard it all around me in the Art Institute, and I knew it wasn't right.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:58:56
It was everyone showing up exactly how they are, and thank you for sharing your story of your healing.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:59:07
Which, of course, I've known, but it is such an inspirational story to share about how your writing saved you.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:59:15
And there was another port where the ocean was speaking to you and and I, you know, I hope that everyone else really just looks and looks into more, and reads your books and all of that.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:59:29
But giving the world, giving it to the world, giving our creativity the world, and restoring the balance through the creativity.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:59:35
So those are some of the amazing thing. Just a few of the amazing things that you talked about.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:59:40
I appreciate your being here so much, of course, and thanks for continuing with us.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 11:59:47
And this community. Thank you.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 11:59:51
Thank you so much, Mary. And what a delight for me to experience you this way!
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:00:00
How to once again point to the weaving that's happening here, and the infectious nature of creativity.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:00:12
So the reference that Mary is making to the shift.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:00:19
Again, referencing Jim's comments between passivity and expression.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:00:25
That's what we're invoking here. Creativity, rising is an invocation to expression.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:00:33
And what we're saying is that every voice matters. These are different forms of arousing everyone's vocational order, and Jim launched us.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:00:47
And what is so pertinent to me. And I think to everyone, really, how that movement out of passivity into expression.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:00:59
Changes everything, for everyone. So you know, as a neuroscientist is a neuropsychologist.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:01:09
I've studied the infection of trauma, which is also infectious, and we know that trauma occupies more brain real estate.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:01:23
Then joy does. It's just the nature of the traumatic.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:01:29
Experience is, it spreads more easily, it occupies more neuronal capacity, which means that to build the healing vortex, to quote one of my mentors, Peter Levine, to build the healing vortex so that it devours the trauma vortex, we have to engage it
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:01:51
won't happen through passivity. It will happen just as Mary made the choice to write instead of drink.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:02:00
It's a choice. She made that choice, and from that choice everything opened up that's the blessing of the mother.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:02:10
Just one step in her direction. Everything opens up and that's what creativity rising is about.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:02:17
It's about taking that one step towards expression out of pivity into expression.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:02:28
And that's my takegway once again, beautifully as if planned to the voice in another form of my colleague, my collaborator, Claire Hadine.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:02:41
Who you heard in her essence at the beginning. Now we'll reflect on this movement.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:02:49
Personal and planetary transaction.
[Clare Hedin] 12:03:00
Thank you, Stephanie.
[Clare Hedin] 12:03:03
I'm very glad to be at the end, because one of the ways I I feel myself and know myself is through.
[Clare Hedin] 12:03:16
Co-emergence through becoming, and I become in an environment.
[Clare Hedin] 12:03:22
In relationship to and with. And so, as the the river has has weaved its way with Teresa and Mary and Jim and Stephanie and Cathleen, and so on.
[Clare Hedin] 12:03:39
I've been in the river, and I have been affected and altered by the river.
[Clare Hedin] 12:03:47
There are so many ways we could talk about creativity for me.
[Clare Hedin] 12:03:55
I, I experience it and have experienced it as an inheritance, as something that I have inherited automatically from the cosmos and from the planet.
[Clare Hedin] 12:04:08
And to me it is an expression of all of those things the Gestalt of life moving forwards in space and time, expressing novelty, expressing truth, expressing pain.
[Clare Hedin] 12:04:24
There's a wildness to creativity that is tantalizing and abundant and ebullient.
[Clare Hedin] 12:04:32
It just has to present itself, and we reveal our character by the way we interact with the creative force.
[Clare Hedin] 12:04:43
This is an unbiased force. It is energetic in nature.
[Clare Hedin] 12:04:50
There are 2 things I want to share with you specifically, and then I'm gonna tell you why.
[Clare Hedin] 12:04:58
The first is something that came from a spiritual community that I I'm with sometimes, and it's a small song.
[Clare Hedin] 12:05:11
For my resistance to being all I'm created to be for my denial of life, of life abundantly for the discord I bring into the harmony. I beg the indulgence of earth, sky, and sea, for all that I am for all you, are for all in all and old.
[Clare Hedin] 12:05:54
These last few days have stirred things in me. That is the magic of alchemy. That is the magic of creativity and community.
[Clare Hedin] 12:06:08
I was talking with a friend.
[Clare Hedin] 12:06:12
I think it was a day and a half ago, and we had like a 5 min conversation.
[Clare Hedin] 12:06:19
But all of this creativity from this week was stirring me, stirring in my soul, and.
[Clare Hedin] 12:06:31
Of after he and I hung up. This came out of me.
[Clare Hedin] 12:06:41
When we see something, it activates something, curiosity, repulsion, compassion, avoidance, joy, anger.
[Clare Hedin] 12:07:01
But when we really, when we really see something, it heals.
[Clare Hedin] 12:07:09
Healing is the coming together of old lies turned into new understandings, alchemy in witnessing new understandings that relieve the sufferer, myself of responsibilities that were lies, burdens of regret misplaced loyalties, misinterpreted relationships, binding duties.
[Clare Hedin] 12:07:40
When we remove these weights from the topsoil that is underneath, can receive the sunshine and the rain, feel the breeze, can fluff up again and notice its own freedom, it can spring upwards.
[Clare Hedin] 12:08:03
When I stand up and say I am I just for myself, with no one to please, impress, live up to, or live for.
[Clare Hedin] 12:08:22
I can feel myself expanding into the sunshine of life's fresh air, of possibilities that asked me to prove absolutely nothing.
[Clare Hedin] 12:08:35
I relax.
[Clare Hedin] 12:08:39
I am animated, I am extending vertically as the pressure releases.
[Clare Hedin] 12:08:47
I am tall as a tallest grasses blowing in the new sense of life.
[Clare Hedin] 12:08:53
The tip of my head touching the sky's ceiling, and then traveling through that even restrictained bye.
[Clare Hedin] 12:09:03
Nothing restrained by nothing.
[Clare Hedin] 12:09:10
I can lay my body down. The old one who believed them all the liars, the ones who sought to burden with shame and lay her to rest.
[Clare Hedin] 12:09:24
There is a new me that has always been there, so very kind, so patient, gentle, ready.
[Clare Hedin] 12:09:39
I take her hand, and we walk together in our Wellington Byots, along the windy road between the moors, at home, at home.
[Clare Hedin] 12:09:54
At last!
[Clare Hedin] 12:09:57
Enough! At last!
[Clare Hedin] 12:10:07
I have been reflecting on my own life's journey.
[Clare Hedin] 12:10:12
It has been vast and deep.
[Clare Hedin] 12:10:17
And it was really literally yesterday sitting in the driveway when I wrote that.
[Clare Hedin] 12:10:25
That I understood something that I hadn't seen before, that affected myself.
[Clare Hedin] 12:10:30
Perception and creativity has everything to do with self perception and attachment to identities especially imported.
[Clare Hedin] 12:10:40
Identities can be affecting of our creativity.
[Clare Hedin] 12:10:46
And it was this memory of my father who would come to school for parent teacher meetings, and he would make this joke.
[Clare Hedin] 12:10:57
It was a family joke. I didn't find it that funny, but it was a probably a coping mechanism for him, because he was doing this alone without the presence of our mother who had died, and he would say, Oh, I was so terrified to go to Claire's parent teacher meeting because the teachers would
[Clare Hedin] 12:11:19
beckon me. Mister Hideen, Mister Adene, have a seat, and they would proceed to tell him what amazing potential I had.
[Clare Hedin] 12:11:28
If only I would apply myself, if only I would commit!
[Clare Hedin] 12:11:37
So from that. I lived in this story line that said, It's my fault that I'm not doing well.
[Clare Hedin] 12:11:47
It's my fault I'm failing my family.
[Clare Hedin] 12:11:50
I'm failing my father. I'm failing society.
[Clare Hedin] 12:11:58
And then I thought of this book that I read more recently within the last year called The Geography of Thought, and it spoke of the history.
[Clare Hedin] 12:12:09
It was a university study, and it spoke of the history of Aristotelian thought versus Confucius.
[Clare Hedin] 12:12:18
Very generalized into Western and Eastern thought, and in this book they give an example of how we look at paintings and in Western thought we are trained by Aristotle apparently to identify the subject, and everything else is identified as the background.
[Clare Hedin] 12:12:42
And from an Eastern perspective, the whole composition is, in fact, the story.
[Clare Hedin] 12:12:49
There is no foreground background. As such. There is no hierarchy of importance or relevance.
[Clare Hedin] 12:12:56
How this translates into lived life you can take into a school setting.
[Clare Hedin] 12:13:03
If there is a child in the school that is not doing well, Western thought will say, Mister Heddin, your daughter's not doing well.
[Clare Hedin] 12:13:13
She must try harder, but in Eastern thought it would have been.
[Clare Hedin] 12:13:20
What can the teachers do differently to help this child thrive?
[Clare Hedin] 12:13:26
How can we recognize her needs? Wrote me to change in the Gestalt of the situation, in order for her to truly emerge and know herself?
[Clare Hedin] 12:13:44
That would have been a very different way to grow up within my own skin without that shame and without that confusion that somehow the who I was was not right was not accurate.
[Clare Hedin] 12:14:00
For the setting for the situation.
[Clare Hedin] 12:14:03
But over time I did go to Art School. I did become a musician.
[Clare Hedin] 12:14:09
I did write, I did fall in love with the universe, and in that I deepened my relationship to planet, to home.
[Clare Hedin] 12:14:20
I understood my belonging in a way that I couldn't with humans.
[Clare Hedin] 12:14:25
The forest educated me, the forest loved me. The sounds of the forest animated me.
[Clare Hedin] 12:14:33
Turned into songs the sound of my feet on the stony, crunchy beaches of Suffolk, the east coast of England were my symphony, as was the wind in the leaves, the sound of the seagulls.
[Clare Hedin] 12:14:54
There is an ongoing conversation happening in the universe. We are localised in this planet, but we are extended into the universe.
[Clare Hedin] 12:15:06
When we are receptors for that, we become creative.
[Clare Hedin] 12:15:13
We stop fighting against our belongingness.
[Clare Hedin] 12:15:20
The healing comes, I think, from being able to truly see where we have been.
[Clare Hedin] 12:15:30
What we did with that, what stories we told? Were they accurate?
[Clare Hedin] 12:15:36
Were they helpful? Did they love us into being?
[Clare Hedin] 12:15:46
I learned to listen in the forest.
[Clare Hedin] 12:15:50
Stephanie has always asked me. Claire, where does this singing come from?
[Clare Hedin] 12:15:55
What are you really doing? And her question was beautifully confounding, because I didn't know how to answer it.
[Clare Hedin] 12:16:02
But what I do think I can say at this point is that am in love with the universe.
[Clare Hedin] 12:16:09
I am in love with this planet. I am in love with this opportunity to be here and to experience the the friction, the the messiness.
[Clare Hedin] 12:16:21
Of conversation, of communion, the discord and the harmony, and that dynamic that's occurring between elements as they meet and rub up against each other.
[Clare Hedin] 12:16:36
We are an emergent phenomenon. I am a collective.
[Clare Hedin] 12:16:42
The eye that sits here speaking is a we.
[Clare Hedin] 12:16:51
Unprofoundly grateful for my time here on this planet, and I really really hope that the way I show up can somehow have value.
[Clare Hedin] 12:17:07
And it's really an ongoing pass, an ongoing, meandering river walk. And I just want to say, Thank you for having me today.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:17:30
Hmm!
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:17:33
I feel like we need that deep pause that always arises after you, saying you're just saying with your words and with your intention, and I want to again weave the threads from today.
[Clare Hedin] 12:17:44
Hmm.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:17:55
And from this entire platform, which is how we are bearing witness to creativity rising in each one of us, and how the personal story that everyone has told.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:18:13
Feeds the collective rising, the infectious nature of creativity, delivered authentically.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:18:29
A living poem. That's what you are. Clarity!
[Clare Hedin] 12:18:35
Oh, Lord! Thank you!
[Clare Hedin] 12:18:40
That's beautiful!
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:18:52
That's such a beautiful way to describe, Claire.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:18:58
This is a living poem that really dropped really deep into my heart.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:19:03
The first thing I was going to say is that you are a storyteller from my imagination as a child the type of storyteller that I always tuned into.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:19:15
In whether they were there or not. There's something to very musical about how you speak as well in singing with your words, but even more than that, if you take it out the way that you tell the story if you take out the music the points that you are making the the way.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:19:43
That you are relating this journey of kind of on educating ourselves and reforming how we're educated and how we're, you know, from very young age, I mean that part to me is something that if we had that then if we had that in the beginning of all of our
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:20:07
lives, whether it be in our family classroom or in the school classroom that the connection to nature, is a thing that is missing.
[Clare Hedin] 12:20:10
Hmm!
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:20:19
The listening and the sacredness that we can feel around nature.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:20:27
And as I say that I get chilled, you know I'm in love with Earth, too.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:20:32
I always have since I was a child. It was the place I could find that I was always accepted, and that I'd always be able to receive.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:20:42
You know, just being poured into me. I could always feel it pouring in, and if we connected that piece, you know, with Nature, when the teachers are in the classroom, and whatever their deciding, and I know it's a difficult job, and they're they're actually working within parameter that doesn't work for
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:21:03
most teachers kind of rebel, you know. Also, that's not what they expected.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:21:08
When they were growing up and thinking they wanted to be a teacher, it would, they?
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:21:13
You know what a lot of people wanted to do is to be there to hold space for the children, and I think you know that Guy consred and screwed up basically.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:21:26
And the connection from nature. Like as you were speaking. You know there's nature schools, and you know not everybody can have those type of schools or classrooms, but to be able to bring in that listening and that sacredness for each and every student to realize that what you're doing with this beautiful spirit that is
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:21:48
bringing forth the energy in this world and not someone that has to conform to a certain box in order to do so.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:21:54
And if you fail, if you don't, if you don't fit.
[Clare Hedin] 12:21:58
Hmm!
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:21:59
So you do have value. And I wanted to say that loud, very much value.
[Clare Hedin] 12:22:03
I care!
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:22:07
And we value you today to be here and to show up fully.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:22:12
Also with a lesson and something that can be brought forward besides your voice and your story, telling that I could just close my eyes and listen to thank you for being here, and for being you.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:22:30
Where do we go from? Here? Wow, okay.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:22:34
Well, I love the I love the threads.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:22:38
I wanna bring Jim in to help wea the threads.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:22:42
But one of the threads that I'm picking up here.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:22:46
Is this threat of mapping? And I wanna tie back to Teresa who is such an embodiment of creativity to reside?
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:22:58
I just want you to know everybody. All panelists, please.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:23:01
Yeah. Please. Come on.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:23:02
If you can show up, that'd be great. You know, Teresa is just emanating this joy of creativity, and I love how she began by saying that she is one of 7 children, and that her mother, assured that all would be educated, even if my mother was not and how she is doing
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:23:29
this cultural mapping through the gift that her mother gave her of education, and each one of us has referenced a kind of mapping, and that mapping is the way that we are trying to re-educate ourselves and I wanna tie this back to humanity rising and
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:23:55
Ubiquity University, because I feel that the creative restructuring of education is really what's happening.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:24:08
In humanity, rising and in ubiquity.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:24:11
University. And I wanna speak to that as the bridge from personal to planetary transformation.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:24:21
So, while I am a poet, an educator, and a scientist, my passion is really for instilling this uprising that counteracts the passivity, and I am doing that in part through education and in the regenerative health design that i'm launching I provide a mapping skill
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:24:50
it's called the human Xp zone. So the exposome is a public health map for planetary exposures, and I've created a design that allows each person as Theresa was actually doing when she started.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:25:08
She was explaining her exposures. She was explaining the exposures of her personal family and her community to the toxic impacts that we are overcoming through creativity rising, I hope I'm making sense here.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:25:29
I'm linking it all together and hoping to bring us back to creativity, rising, and how, through our own personal mapping Claire was doing mapping.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:25:43
Mary was doing mapping. We are, and Jim starts us with mapping, mapping our history, mapping this moment.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:25:53
How can we map through creativity and reclaim ourselves as a result?
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:26:00
That's what I am hearing everyone doing, mapping your own journey back to your rootedness with the world, with nature, with the earth, and sharing that with others that's what Teresa is doing in the birthplace of civilization, Africa, restoring it's very similar to what spring is doing in
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:26:26
her work with China, restoring, remembering who we really are, and that we are children of the earth.
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:26:37
It's my attempt to link everything together. Please bring your voices to join mine.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:26:44
It's beautiful way to link it altogether. Stephanie did a very good job on the spot, and it is.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:26:53
It really does magnify everything that we have been feeling here today.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:26:59
And on the third day of this event also, and you know, to create a pattern which feels like, you know, this map, and to realize our place in it.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:27:11
And I just want to mention around the mapping that for these women that cheese is working with, this is the only way that they can communicate it they, you know, they've sometimes haven't had that pencil in their hand, like you know, Dr.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:27:28
Anne was talking about yesterday they'd be given a pencil or a pen for the very first time, and to write would be, you know, going back to education.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:27:39
And if they've lacked that education so far, but creativity actually stays in with this way for them to express their truth and to and then to make the changes that we need to make by also bringing more creativity to to excite them.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:28:01
And yeah, I've met some of these women and their excitement and joy could light all of the houses we don't need electricity like it's incredible fuselage of energy that is ignited by them just being able to be part of their own destiny and so I yeah, there
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:28:22
is just endless. What's coming together here for us?
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:28:27
Endless, limitless!
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 12:28:29
I wanted to say. I've just, you know, been in London.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 12:28:33
I'm vacationing in my homeland, and go to see lots of exhibits.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 12:28:37
So I just saw one at the Wall Academy, the Spanish exhibit, and one of the most fascinating things in there was looking and comparing colonial maps to indigenous maps.
[Jim Garrison] 12:28:54
Hmm!
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 12:28:55
So colonial mapping is all about possession, extraction, domination, etc.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 12:29:03
And these incredibly poetic, beautiful, relational, indigenous maps all about the relationship between humans of land and river and tree, and all of the infinite varieties of kinship.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 12:29:21
And what was so disturbing, many things were disturbing.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 12:29:27
But one thing that stood out for me particularly was that the the Spanish invaders had encouraged the native people to create these maps, and they thought they were doing it in a celebration, and an articulation of what they loved their culture their and in fact those maps were used as essentially against
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 12:29:53
them to exploit, and everything like that. So I think mapping is fascinating in part, because we know historically maps are deeply and powerfully we're feeling of world view.
[Jim Garrison] 12:30:11
Hmm!
[Clare Hedin] 12:30:11
Hmm!
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 12:30:12
You know, they're changing maps. Mapping things in different ways is deeply important.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:30:20
Wonderful Mary!
[Clare Hedin] 12:30:23
I'd like to just jump in because the word map my antenna are going like this because I didn't really have a relatable model growing up of how I experienced reality.
[Clare Hedin] 12:30:38
I had to navigate it on my own, and try and make sense of it myself.
[Clare Hedin] 12:30:45
And so in service of others who might be having similar experiences that's why I did all these maps of this terrain of becoming more aware of myself as an emergent phenomenon.
[Clare Hedin] 12:31:00
Which is what dynamic emergence was.
[Clare Hedin] 12:31:05
Excuse me, but it made me laugh at times, because I'd meet Mary and Claire Dubois and various friends.
[Clare Hedin] 12:31:17
Including Mark, and I'd show up with these massive pieces of paper with my latest map on it.
[Clare Hedin] 12:31:24
Mind back, look at it, and like shit can we just go for a walk?
[Clare Hedin] 12:31:31
And I'm like yet again foiled yet again, and tried to sort of explain this tactile visceral relationship to energy and how to do it.
[Clare Hedin] 12:31:43
In ways that are actually more rational to help people who are purely rational come in, come on board into the forest of visceral interaction, and maybe using their rational mind as a as an entry point.
[Clare Hedin] 12:32:01
So, but that was one of my my reactions as an adult was to try to map this, territory that no one talked me. I had.
[Clare Hedin] 12:32:10
I learned it through walking on the pass myself, discovering things and trying to make sense of things.
[Clare Hedin] 12:32:20
I'll put some links in the chat for that.
[Jim Garrison] 12:32:25
Teresa, what would you say to this?
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:32:32
Well, the amazing! I love the way you are explaining Steph and Mary and Katherine. It's amazing, amazing.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:32:45
And I know, like we need to heal our wooded land.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:32:51
We need to heal our wooded ecosystem.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:32:53
So mapping, how can mapping? How can mapping? How can mapping come out and we work towards so mapping?
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:33:03
How can I look at it if I am wounded?
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:33:10
If I'm sick I'm not able to feed my children.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:33:14
I'm not able to work. I'm not able to do all that.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:33:19
So if you look at the environment, if we look at our our life support system, then if it is wooded, then we will not be able to survive well, so I it's amazing the way we are all working together toward healing our environment, I try to fill in this wood, because some of them.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:33:39
So they are so like they cannot.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:33:46
It's not easy to handle them. We have lost a lot of 3 species, 10% of the 3 species in the world are already lost like they are gone.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:33:54
So we need to look at that and see. Do we want to continue losing the biodiversity?
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:34:01
How can we make sure that we are coexisting well with the environment?
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:34:06
How can we look at humanity as part of nature? Not a separate, more better than nature, because the moment you destroy it we are destroying ourselves, and I know, like in terms of mapping, I think I started a long time ago mapping my life, because I changed my name at some point because my name, that time, did not
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:34:27
make a lot of sense. I know that will be a story for another day.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:34:33
I changed. I gave myself another locker name because my name meant that this is a woman who will stay at home without doing a lot, and I've changed my name personally.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:34:47
My mom did not like I just came and say, like, I think this is a better name than this one.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:34:52
I was 6 years old then. I was very young, so I think, and my grandmother, when I was very young, started calling me Forresta for Esther for Forester, so I don't know how that came.
[Mary Reynolds Thompson] 12:34:54
Okay.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:35:05
Out until I found myself. I don't know how I found myself.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:35:11
I found myself walking with. I worked with the Professor Mongarima life for 5 years before she passed on.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:35:18
So it her it let us try to go to our routes.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:35:22
Add that studying how things used to happen. How was human being co-existing in a local language?
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:35:30
I love talking with those women when they are talking. They are native language.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:35:35
We are losing our languages because a lot of people think that talking English is the best.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:35:42
What about our native languages? What about our native trees? What about our our indigenous people, our old people?
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:35:53
A lot of people don't value they have a lot of knowledge that we need to tap.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:35:58
These a very big gap between the young and the old, so we need to look at that so that we make sure that the knowledge that our old people is being transferred to the young generation add that by that doing that we'll be able to heal the who that would that environment would that would that
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:36:19
ecosystems. So thank you so much for organizing this.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:36:23
This is amazing. I think this is one of the best webinar that I have participated, and to learn a lot, because creativity is key creativity will help us to go far, and we need to get that creativity from even those people who cannot talk English those people who are on the ground.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:36:43
We can get a lot of what they can be able to tell us.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:36:46
They have a lot of knowledge, a lot of creativity. I was currently had some photographs that she sent to me, and I gave them to some of the women to try and cut, and they were so.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:37:01
It was amazing to them. They just felt so nice like it was so fulfilling to them.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:37:07
So let us continue this discussions. Let us do our best.
[Teresa Muthoni] 12:37:12
Let us do our literal thing, and our little thing is making sure that we are bringing out the creativity of everyone.
[Kathleen Brigidina] 12:37:19
Yeah. Oh, God, thank you, for I'm ready to go now and take someone.
[Jim Garrison] 12:37:21
Beautiful. Thank you, Teresa.
[Jim Garrison] 12:37:27
I think that's a good final word for us all today.
[Jim Garrison] 12:37:31
Thank you, Teresa, for that summarizing comment.
[Jim Garrison] 12:37:38
And Mary beautiful poetry today and clar their sounds are so healing and thank you all so much. So I'm just wondering, Stephanie, do you wanna just round us off and tell us a little bit about tomorrow?
[Dr. Stephanie Mines] 12:37:50
Yes, thank you, Jim, and
