Meeting summary for ChatPeople AfterChat Zoom (06/12/2024)
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| Quick recap | |
| They also explored the decline of spiritual and cultural communities, the need for greater inclusive approaches, and the potential of nature as a source of healing. The group emphasized the importance of listening, understanding interconnectedness, and the potential for positive change through collective introspection. | |
| Next steps | |
| • Paul to share the link to estuary hub.com for those interested in starting an estuary group and learning the estuary protocol. | |
| • Mary to start a YouTube channel and share snippets from her book "Going from a Life of Quiet Desperation to a Created Life". | |
| • John to visit the Findhorn Foundation and explore ways to revive and diversify the community. | |
| • Daniel to explore incorporating the estuary protocol, makerspaces, amateur radio, and the Dunbar number concept into his vision for human rights 2.0. | |
| • Jiyun to continue sharing her perspectives on self-realization, self-actualization, and recognizing the interconnectedness of all beings. | |
| • Randolph to reflect on the role of masculine and feminine energies in addressing the disconnect between human nature and Mother Nature. | |
| • Stanley to share information about the Participedia website and philosophy for managing group discussions and addressing gender-related issues. | |
| • Attendees to explore ways to integrate the estuary protocol, listening practices, and community-building efforts to foster greater understanding and connection. | |
| Summary | |
| Panelists' Backgrounds and Community Care | |
| The conversation then delved into the panelists' backgrounds, with cecely suggesting an investigation into their roots. Paul shared his family's history, revealing his ancestry as a descendant of a Jew who married a Dutch woman, resulting in his family's expulsion from their community. He shared his subsequent experiences, including his time working with Haitian migrant workers in the Dominican Republic and his current role as a pastor of a racially diverse church in Sacramento, committed to caring for marginalized communities, including families with disabled people. | |
| Building Community Through Estuary Project | |
| Paul shared his vision of building a sense of community through Estuary, a project aimed at helping individuals struggling with homelessness, addiction, and mental health issues. Kurt, who has a background in sports psychology and spiritual integration, expressed his support for Paul's vision, emphasizing the importance of grassroots initiatives. Shannon and Michael discussed the significance of starting small and having a vision larger than one's immediate capabilities, using the examples of St. Francis and farmers who plant a single seed that grows into a large harvest. Mary shared her conflicted feelings about living in West Virginia, reflecting on her desire to make a difference and care for others, despite feeling overwhelmed by the problems and negative sentiments towards the place. | |
| Embracing Differences and Building Online Communities | |
| Mary expressed her plan to start a YouTube channel to connect with people and share experiences. Paul appreciated her initiative, emphasizing the significance of diverse perspectives in discussions. He shared his successful experience in building an online community through private Zoom calls, which later evolved into live streams. The group underscored the importance of respecting differences, listening to opposing viewpoints, and setting protocols to ensure constructive conversations. Mary's idea of transitioning from a life of quiet desperation to a created life was positively received, with suggestions to share her unique perspective through her book and YouTube channel. | |
| Bruce, Paul, Psionics, and Finghorn Foundation | |
| Bruce expressed his admiration for Paul's Christian ministry and his support for the Psionics Institute and Psio spirituality. He also discussed his interest in the pursuit of truth through advances in technology and his belief in the non-aggression principles and the sacred law of live and let live. John then shared his personal journey and his concerns about the future of the Finghorn Foundation, suggesting a possible refresh of its paradigm. Finally, diana interjected with a question about the Finghorn Foundation, indicating her interest in the topic. | |
| Reviving Communities and Embracing Diversity | |
| diana proposed that the Estuary could become a venue for open discussions aimed at bringing communities back together. The group then discussed the decline of various spiritual and cultural communities, including the Schumacher College in Devon and the New York Open Center. They noted how these communities had become too academic and not practical enough in their spirituality, and highlighted the role of the internet in this trend. Michael and John further reflected on the evolution of spiritual and cultural trends over the past few decades, pointing out the decline in alternative spirituality communities due to the erosion of traditional structures by modernity, and the subsequent failure to reach all segments of society due to these initiatives' elitist and homogenous nature. They underscored the importance of embracing diversity, a more universal approach, and a telescopic vision that can encompass the global and the local. | |
| Community Building, Human Rights, and Listening Principles | |
| Shannon, John, Daniel, and Paul discussed various topics related to community building, human rights, and listening principles. John shared his background and clarified his relationship with another John. Daniel, a Universal Life Church minister, presented his vision of human rights 2.0, emphasizing the importance of free migration and access to basic necessities. He also proposed to incorporate makerspaces, amateur radio, and time banks into his campaign for city council and as a vice presidential candidate for the transhumanist party. Paul then discussed the Estuary protocol, a group process focused on listening, and its success in building communities. Shannon concluded the discussion by recognizing the idea of “circles of circles. ” | |
| Transhumanism, Community Concerns, and Holistic Progression | |
| Daniel, a Christian transhumanist, discussed the diverse beliefs within the transhumanist movement. diana then expressed her concerns about certain communities, such as Schumacher, that were facing challenges due to the Covid-19 pandemic, leading to social distancing and vaccine controversies. Jiyun, who had a daughter studying at Schumacher, shared his experiences as a shaman and highlighted the need for a more inclusive and structured approach to alternative beliefs. He underscored the importance of shifting focus from egoistic desires to interconnectedness with nature and the supernatural, and advocated for a holistic, circular approach to progression, emphasizing the value of self-organization and collective introspection. | |
| Emphasizing Listening, Helpfulness, and Self-Awareness | |
| The team engaged in a thoughtful discussion about the importance of listening and the need for greater helpfulness. Randolph highlighted the importance of understanding the interconnectedness between human nature and the natural world, and the need to acknowledge and address systemic patriarchy. Stanley emphasized the theme of helpfulness and the necessity to understand others' needs to be truly helpful. Jiyun stressed the importance of self-awareness, recognizing the limitations of one's own perspective, and listening with an open mind to truly hear others. | |
| Nature, Mental Health, and Womb Envy | |
| Jiyun led a discussion on the concept of nature and its relationship to mental health, highlighting the idea that nature can serve as a source of healing. Jiyun also touched on the concept of 'womb envy' and the hurts that can arise from community and societal belonging. The group also discussed the potential for individual and collective trauma, with Jiyun encouraging self-care and recognizing the potential for positive change through community. Towards the end, Stanley shared about the Participa website and the Cantopia philosophy, before concluding the meeting. | |
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