Meeting Summary for ChatPeople AfterChat Zoom (09/17/24)

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Back to: HR!Day985 - Tue 9/17/24 When Peace Was A Secret - Governance, Law and Security - Tom Eddington, Marilyn King, Carlos Mota Margain & Jacie Rowe

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Quick recap
The meeting focused on discussions about community building, peace, and the role of individuals in lobbying for change. Key topics included the importance of grassroots movements, the need for a new generation of leaders, and the potential of community gardening and food security in promoting peace. The conversation also touched on the challenges faced by different generations, the importance of considering the needs of mothers and grandmothers in society, and the role of technology in global connections.
Next steps
• Jc to continue advocating for community-focused governance by encouraging politicians to consider "What does your mother need?
• Sarah Sue to attend the Earth Stock production meeting and connect with Jamen Shivelly's People's Forum session.
• Tricia to send email with Jamen Shivelly's session details to interested participants.
• Bob to attend the Common Ground Fair in Unity, Maine next week.
• Diana to look up the Common Ground Fair website for more information.
• Attendees to focus on cultivating love and compassion in their communities and towards perceived "enemies".
• Participants to explore ways to engage more actively in local governance and community-building initiatives.
• Attendees to consider how to support and empower mothers in their communities as a way to address societal needs.
Summary
Significant Contributions, Nature, and Community Work
In the after-chat, marilyn was praised for her significant contribution. Kat asked marilyn about a simple daily action without collaboration, and marilyn emphasized connecting with nature. Tami agreed, sharing her experiences with barefoot grounding and electron-rich waters. She discussed her book on sacred relationships, the diamond model, spiral dynamics, and plant-based nutrition. Tami praised Jc's community work and political potential. Shannon and Kurt admired Jc and the collaborative spirit. Tami recounted injuring her finger at Vegfest while using a powerful peeler. marilyn had to leave early, and Shannon encouraged asking questions and recognizing speakers. Jiyun asked an obtuse, unspecified question.
Addressing Gatekeeping and Leadership in Peace
Jiyun raised a question about gatekeeping and how to tackle it in a peaceful and inviting manner. Jacie responded by discussing the issue of gatekeeping in leadership, using Oakland as an example. She suggested that instead of focusing on individual gain, leaders should work together to grow and nurture the community. Jacie also mentioned the importance of mentoring and the need for a new generation of leaders. The conversation then shifted to the topic of food security and its role in the larger peace process, with Shannon promising to address it in a future meeting.
Governance Through Gardens and Peace Promotion
Shannon proposed the idea of "governance through gardens" to promote peace and growth within communities. Jacie shared her experience with community gardening and emphasized the importance of educating people about food sources. Jiyun highlighted the potential health and wealth crises associated with the current food system and the importance of learning from nature. Thomas expressed appreciation for the discussion on building peace through technology and global connections. Linda shared a list of lobbyists for peace obtained from ChatGPT.
Lobbying for Peace and Multilateral Action
Linda expressed concerns about the limited number of lobbyists identified by their AI system and questioned the role of individuals in lobbying for peace. Jacie responded by discussing the historical context of lobbying, using Martin Luther King Jr.'s successful fundraising and lobbying efforts as an example. She emphasized the importance of a multilateral machine to lobby effectively and suggested that individuals could play a role in this process. Jacie also stressed the need for organized action to counter chaos created by those in power. Shannon agreed with Jacie's points and shared her love for the community, Humanity Rising, which was formed during the Covid lockdown and focuses on the power of women. Sarah joined the conversation, acknowledging the group's shared experiences and the need for more people to join their cause.
Earth Stock Initiative and Global Change
Sarah discussed the Earth Stock initiative, which initially failed but led to the formation of the Earth Stock Solutionaries Council. This council attracted the attention of six billionaires who plan to establish facilities worldwide for large groups to learn cooperation, farming, and permaculture. The goal is to raise the frequency of these individuals to promote unity and then have them return to their communities to create change. Shannon expressed concern over governments disregarding citizens, while Jacie highlighted the need for grassroots voices in power circles and the challenges faced by millennials. Jacie emphasized the importance of human development and suggested finding a blueprint for healing to benefit all people.
Grassroots Movements, Community Gardens, and Apathy
Shannon emphasized the importance of grassroots movements and community gardens in shaping regional issues and influencing city councils. She also highlighted the engagement of 16 participants in the current community project and the need for politicians to listen to the people they serve. Linda shared her experience of gaining hope from a community story shared by marilyn, which demonstrated a model of unity and cooperation. Sarah expressed concern about the increasing apathy in each generation, comparing it to the activism of her youth. Jacie agreed, noting a decline in ambition and passion among young people since the year 2000. Shannon suggested that Jacie's efforts in creating a space for such discussions should be recognized.
Gentrification, Pandemic, and Brain Drain in Communities
Jacie discussed the impact of gentrification and the pandemic on communities, particularly in Detroit and the Bay Area. She highlighted how black people moved to suburban neighborhoods, making cities unaffordable for many. Jacie also touched on the issue of brain drain in the black community, emphasizing the need for intellectual people to be involved in the fight against dangerous systems. She criticized the lack of policy changes in the state and city levels over the past 15 years, despite the need for protection and investment in young people. Jacie concluded by emphasizing the need for legal separation to be addressed in order to resolve existing problems. The meeting also involved a discussion about the current state of the world, with a focus on the challenges posed by the Covid-19 pandemic and the importance of unity and love in overcoming these challenges.
Understanding Needs of Mothers and Grandmothers
Jacie emphasized the importance of considering the needs of mothers in society, suggesting that their needs should guide policy decisions. She shared her personal experience of asking her mother what she needed, and how this approach helped her understand the needs of others. Jacie also highlighted the role of grandmothers in taking care of society, using her own grandmother as an example. Shannon agreed with Jacie's perspective, emphasizing the need to listen to the grandmothers. The conversation ended with Shannon expressing gratitude for the discussion and the participants. The participants discussed the age ranges of different generations, specifically focusing on Millennials and Generation Z. Jacie clarified that Millennials were born between 1981 and 1996, while Generation Z, also referred to as Generation 0, includes those born after 1996. Sarah shared that her daughter, born in 1983, is a Millennial. The conversation ended with Shannon expressing gratitude and a fondness for the younger generations.
Lost Handbags and Erstock Production Meeting
Hyacinth shared her experience of losing her handbag and finding it in the church shop. diana recounted a similar incident where she lost her handbag at Aldi and it was returned to her by an honest person. Shannon had to leave the meeting early. Sarah expressed her intention to attend the upcoming Erstock production meeting and catch up with Shannon afterwards. Tricia offered to send Sarah an email with details about the meeting. diana declined the offer to be included in the email.
Hotel Construction and Conference Discussion
Sarah shared her experience of renting a hotel room in a building undergoing construction, with the new owner planning to transform it into a healing and fasting hotel. diana and Tricia discussed a LinkedIn post by Bob Hayes, which was clarified to be about a conference hosted by Jacie. Tricia agreed to send an email with more details about the conference and Bob shared his email address for further communication. Bob also shared his travel plans, mentioning his attendance at the Common Ground Festival in Maine, which is sponsored by the Main Organic Farming and Gardening Association. diana asked for the festival's website, to which Bob suggested searching for "Common Ground Fair".
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