HR!Day602 Transcript
Back To: HR!Day602 - Modern-day Magic II - Hacking the World
[Jim Garrison] 11:01:38
Deconstruction of the global Order Right at the moment when we need all hands on deck to deal with climate, change and range of other issues, confronting, the human community, as we quite literally, teeter on the precipice, of Self-destruction, We all know this and We're with
alacrity, going to war it's a tragedy that is unfolding all around us. Today.
The interior aspect of what I consider to be the other major challenge that is spoken about, but needs to be also understood, because I think they're interrelated, and that is the phenomenon of increasing isolation Loneliness
Pre floating, anxiety and depression, frustration and aggression.
That is rising virtually everywhere around the world.
One of the characteristics of the COVID-19 Pandemic.
As we all know, because we all experienced. It is that they put us all in isolation in lockdown.
Social Distancing, wherearing Masks. We were essentially from the Spring of 22, until just recently under a martial Law, As the Governments, began to Deal with the Covid App Epidemic but also to Refine, the Instruments of Authoritarian Control
The Pandemic Accentuated a Trend that is been growing in mostly industrial societies, for centuries, but most acutely in the last Couple of Decades, and that is Social isolation.
The Us. Surgeon General recently said that the other great epidemic, is loneliness, 30 of the Populations in North, America, Europe, Japan, and the Industrial World report that they Experience, chronic isolation, and Chronic Loneliness this is Accentuated by the
Phenomenon of social, Media and communication.
As people are increasingly using virtual realities rather than in person.
Realities to live out their lives, and build com
This is a company, by a massive PET epidemic, in a loss of meaning Gallup, organization.
Did a poll a couple of years ago, where they discovered that when they ask people about whether they found meeting in their jobs, only 13% of people interviewed around the world
Said that they had meaningful Jobs
63% said that they basically sleepwalk
And about a quarter of those interviewed. Say it said that they actively hate their jobs. But they have to do it because they have to earn money
One of the results of this is what has been observed by even the World Health Organization as a free, Floating anxiety and depression that doesn't have an object it's just a general Malays about being in a world that they don't understand a
they need to give them purpose, and abundant and happiness, and the other, phenomenon that accompanies free floating anxiety is free, floating frustration and aggression
[Jim Garrison] 11:05:46
If you look at the data that's emerging all around the world.
[Jim Garrison] 11:05:51
And I don't know of a single country which is accepted and that is that these stresses are producing behaviors in terms of increases in suicides, particularly among the young people Increases in depression, anxiety loneliness, domestic Abuse Drug addiction Crime
[Jim Garrison] 11:06:20
All kinds of indicators of disease in the cloud, having to do with our mental our psychological, our emotional well, being and is Hannah, aren't pointed Out, and her Master Work written in the Immediate Aftermath, of the Second World War called the Origins, of Totalitarianism, She Pointed Out
[Jim Garrison] 11:06:47
that the single most important ingredient
[Jim Garrison] 11:06:52
In mass formation, and the manipulation by the governing elites was not brutality. It was not lack of education.
[Jim Garrison] 11:07:06
It was isolation.
[Jim Garrison] 11:07:09
And that isolation is the key ingredient in the rise of fascism and all kinds, of authoritarianism, and as we look around the world in addition, to the fact, that we're now Fighting a a a major War is we're experiencing the rise of
[Jim Garrison] 11:07:33
Authoritarianism almost everywhere, including the United States, and so I bring this in as we conclude, 22, but also as we conclude this program on modern day magic to underscore.
[Jim Garrison] 11:07:53
The importance for each and every one of us to take those steps in our personal lives, and in our communities, to make sure that we're not feeling isolated, we're not feeling lonely we're indeed dealing with our free floating anxiety, and frustration and
[Jim Garrison] 11:08:13
Aggressiveness in a constructive way. That's what humanity writes has been about from the very beginning.
[Jim Garrison] 11:08:20
How could we in the middle of lockdown and isolation?
[Jim Garrison] 11:08:24
Bring people together in the spirit of radical collaboration from the very beginning what we have accentuated is what we've been calling inner regeneration, we need to work, together to be sure but we also need to develop in our interiority the kind of fortitude the kind of meeting
[Jim Garrison] 11:08:48
Capacity, the kind of openness, to creativity, and alternative points of view, so that we can think freely.
[Jim Garrison] 11:08:58
We can associate deeply, and we can generate the kind of capacity in a world which is ripping us apart through the centrifugal force of alienation, and rising chaos that we can maintain an inner equilibrium that will, empower us in ways, that we
[Jim Garrison] 11:09:22
Need to navigate a world of escalating turbulence.
[Jim Garrison] 11:09:29
And therein is the opportunity for the solutions that we seek but the inner coherence required has to be proportional to the Chaos That's Escalating in the exterior and That's, Ultimately, what humanity Rising is about what youbiquity, University is
[Jim Garrison] 11:09:51
About and why we convene programs like we are doing these last couple of days on how to hack, yourself and hack the world for the Betterment of oh.
[Jim Garrison] 11:10:04
So let us pause, as we always do and let us just breathe together, as we begin our program.
[Jim Garrison] 11:10:10
You'll hear the sound of a bell. When you hear it just breathe in per 5 and a half seconds.
[Jim Garrison] 11:10:17
We'll hear another they'll just breathe. Out.
[Jim Garrison] 11:10:20
We're gonna take 10 Breaths together
[Jim Garrison] 11:10:23
In 1 min, you breathe 5 and a half times, and you bring in 5 and a half liters of Air, We're, gonna do that twice for 10 breaths welcome, everyone
[Georg Boch] 11:10:58
The.
[Georg Boch] 11:11:21
The.
[Georg Boch] 11:12:20
Okay.
[Jim Garrison] 11:13:00
Thank you, everyone, you know just breathing in a coherent way, helps us breakthrough, all the Loneliness and Isolation, and free floating Anxiety and Frustration, and Aggressiveness and That's One Reason, why We Do It every Day on Humanity, Rising I do
[Jim Garrison] 11:13:24
It as part of my personal Practice. the Ubiquity team does it?
[Jim Garrison] 11:13:28
Every time that we meet. So the general point that I think, is important to underscore is even though that these issues, are major and they're at the Level of Epidemics, they're very simple practices that all of us can do to make sure that we stay coherent strong and
[Jim Garrison] 11:13:50
In community. so Breathing is one of the most important ways to do that simple and it's free.
[Jim Garrison] 11:13:58
It's my pleasure now to introduce my good friend, and colleague.
[Jim Garrison] 11:14:02
Peter, Mary, who you will know well, on humanity rising really been the mastermind of the development of ubiquity, and I came up with the name humanity, rising as we were launching forth in 2,020 so Peter thank you very much Peter has been the Convener of this Program.
[Jim Garrison] 11:14:20
Today, through colleagues, he has in Austria.
[Jim Garrison] 11:14:23
So Peter, Welcome and I turn the program over to you.
[Peter Merry] 11:14:26
Hmm. Great. Thanks. Very much. Jim. Welcome everyone. Today, 2 of our modern day magic.
[Peter Merry] 11:14:32
Yesterday, we were focusing on hacking yourself and today we're focusing on hacking the world,
[Peter Merry] 11:14:40
And it's it's intrinsically linked actually to what Jim was talking about just now, because my sense is that one of the reasons people feel so isolated.
[Peter Merry] 11:14:52
And so depressed is they've forgotten the nature of their interconnectedness, which is of course, logical, if You're feeling isolated then we've been taught that was separate from everything whereas we know fundamentally we're not but also where you've been increasingly, taught to
[Peter Merry] 11:15:08
Be consumers of everything around us, and to kind, of give up our power, as it were to other experts, and outsource our Own Capacity, essentially whereas what we really are is co-creators, of our Reality, and the moment, that we realize or remember that it completely transforms, in my Experience.
[Peter Merry] 11:15:35
Are feeling about life. It brings with it, of course, a sense of responsibility.
[Peter Merry] 11:15:39
But also a great sense of curiosity, joy, playfulness.
[Peter Merry] 11:15:48
And so this this idea of of hacking the world, and this program, that we're running around it is about how how does that work?
[Peter Merry] 11:15:58
How how does that work us interacting and co-creating with the world around us it's a in a way, it's easy to say, we're all co-creators of our reality which I believe we are but in what way, how does.
[Peter Merry] 11:16:10
That function? And how do we know? How do, we know what kind of effect we're having on the world around us?
[Peter Merry] 11:16:16
How does that actually work? But the moment that we can see that and the moment that we've realized that any sense of isolation basically disappears.
[Peter Merry] 11:16:28
Because it's no longer part of our world view, how we see ourselves, and how we see the world around us and and a complete joy in the participation of Reality, is what emerges, because we know we're not victims, of this reality we're not just consumers, of reality, we are actually
[Peter Merry] 11:16:47
co-creating this reality. As we go along, and we can choose to either do it unconsciously or we can choose to do it consciously, and what the modern day magic program, and then the hack, the world part of that which is the second half of the program is about is enabling Us, to be
[Peter Merry] 11:17:05
Conscious, co-creators of reality. As I said yesterday, you know we do the hack yourself.
[Peter Merry] 11:17:12
Part first, because we need to be able to learn to manage the energies in ourselves before we engage with them in the world, but so the first half of next Year We'll be running the hack, yourself, program and the second half of next year will be Running, the Hack the World program, and the Hack Yourself, is a
[Peter Merry] 11:17:31
Prerequisite for hacking the world, because gotta have that self awareness before we actually engage with the energies in the world which aren't always easy energies to work with the reason I got into this and and was because i was doing Kind of actually it was Part of the work that I did with
[Peter Merry] 11:17:52
Jim, Years Ago around Climate Change, where we were looking and how you bring together all the different stakeholders that are needed to try to solve some of the challenges that We're Facing the complex challenges, that we're facing and that systems, thinkers would say the Amount of Complexity, of the Problem
[Peter Merry] 11:18:09
determines the requisite diversity that you need to be able to solve the problems.
[Peter Merry] 11:18:15
Well, we've got lots of complexity at the moment.
[Peter Merry] 11:18:19
Requiring lots of diversity. But what I discovered in doing that work over the years, also with the sense of a human emergence here in the Netherlands was that that complexity.
[Peter Merry] 11:18:32
What you start to discover is actually that complexity is too much for the rational mind to be able to grasp.
[Peter Merry] 11:18:40
There's no way. We can actually understand the complexity of all the different players involved in a certain topic, all the dynamics that are Involved it's just way, too.
[Peter Merry] 11:18:51
Much, so you have to some point surrender to not knowing, and not being able to rationally, understand the complexity of these systems.
[Peter Merry] 11:19:03
And when you just do that, when you let go of that Another Level of Knowing comes in, which is much more intuitive, and is more connected to the Energetic dynamics of what's going on in a system, rather than the actual kind, of physical, or material components of it and it was in that quest that I
[Peter Merry] 11:19:22
Came across, something called eco intention that we've Featured on Humanity Rising before the center of Eco Intention who Train basically a certain approach to be able to Work with the Energetic and Information Architecture of Large-scale Systems and I did this 4 Year Vocational Training with them and
[Peter Merry] 11:19:43
The the training actually is now so for a couple of years now, it's available in English, and you can also get the master's degree at the end of it through Ubiquity but what I you know what I found is it's in people ask well, well why is it important what you find is that it
[Peter Merry] 11:20:00
just works, you know you you work with an organization or a large area of land and you're putting symbols on maps for a couple of minutes a day and the goals that are set, the theory things that the People in the Project Want to Achieve they just happen in ways, though that they couldn't have predicted
[Peter Merry] 11:20:24
or Managed. So experiencing that experiencing how these methods that can't be explained by traditional science or the Western Rational Mindsets but they just work that is what push me into my Phd research at Ubiquity that led to the Evolution Theory and into
[Peter Merry] 11:20:52
wanting to find find out more about well, how does this whole dimension work?
[Peter Merry] 11:20:58
Cause we seem to be able to have an effect on our reality.
[Peter Merry] 11:21:03
Without physically or Materially manipulating things through the interaction of our consciousness with the Energy and Information around Us.
[Peter Merry] 11:21:13
And it seems to happen in a far more graceful way, by which I mean, we don't have to plan out how it's going to happen.
[Peter Merry] 11:21:24
But if our intention is clear and we're working consciously with that energetic dimension, then things organize themselves in ways that we could never have planned to do because of course there are dimensions, of reality that we could never understand cognitively and couldn't include in our plans which show up and
[Peter Merry] 11:21:44
have an effect in in ways we could never have organized so that's that's kind of Part of the background.
[Peter Merry] 11:21:54
To my passion about this hacking the World topic, cause I think if we can learn to work because if we can learn to work at this Level of Symptoms on the other side of Complexity, then we'll find that reality.
[Peter Merry] 11:22:10
Starts to organize itself in far more effective ways in far, more graceful ways in ways, that include a lot more of reality, the weak could ever do with our rational mind and that creates solutions or enables creates the conditions for solutions to emerge that are way more in tune with kind
[Peter Merry] 11:22:29
Of natural intelligence. I'd say of life, so that's why I'm really excited about this hack, the hack the world program that we're running and great to have with us.
[Peter Merry] 11:22:43
Again, Wolf kind of in the lead, this time but also with his other 2 musketeers, out there in Vienna, Mike, and Arnold, so good to see you, guys again.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:22:58
Hi! Hello!
[Peter Merry] 11:23:01
Welcome back, wolf is wearing his pear, tree, t-shirt, which came with the all the equipment that we shipped over from Princeton, from the Parlap and the Pear Tree, is the Community Talking, about Community it was the Community that came out of the Work, at
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:23:05
Yeah
[Peter Merry] 11:23:19
Princeton, of people who were interested in the science around this whole question of intention, and how I mind and consciousness interacts with the world around Us.
[Peter Merry] 11:23:28
So what we're gonna do today is I'm gonna get wolf to tell us a little bit of his story of how he got into this and and why it's exciting for him.
[Peter Merry] 11:23:40
And particularly the science around it, and then also, and they've got.
[Peter Merry] 11:23:45
They've got another experiment, or demonstration to show us as well to to show last time, if you remember, we were working very much yesterday, with the physical so you know wiggling your toe or tapping your body today the experiments.
[Peter Merry] 11:24:01
Is going to be non-physical, or non-local, to show how the information can move between people without the being any physical connection which is really what the hack the world approach is working with so wolf start let's, start with you like once upon a time there was a boy called
[Peter Merry] 11:24:23
Wolf, and in some mysterious way he ended up getting into this weird world of of of of what do we call it, of of energy, information, consciousness, so tell us the story a little bit how did all of that happen, what do there must have been some wonderful synchronicities, and things, that
[Peter Merry] 11:24:43
That happened on that one on the journey
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:24:44
Yeah, of course, I would say, I love sides in that, since I'm a little child.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:24:50
So this is one part very, very simply explained and I had always another part, which was inspired all by little bit, but I model.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:25:00
This she wasn't classic, is a period Person.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:25:04
So all this love and light is a terry which appropriately don't like so much, especially as a teenager.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:25:11
I I didn't like it very much, but so I became with some 17.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:25:15
I became a very strong materialisted eighties. But somehow, still all this mystical experiences I had around 1011, and 12, adequate, quite a lot of experiences in this Area, still They're fascinating me and then it was around 25, I decided that I want to run a
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:25:37
Crucial experiment for myself to find out. if there is something behind all this mystical experiences I had in my late childhood, and so I teach myself lucy creaming and I planned a pre cognitive, experiment, so I said, okay, I want to have something.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:25:57
Like an experiment where I can see in the future and I want to get out.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:26:01
Exact Date out of This Literature, and it happened when I did my system service in the Tuition zoom in Lithuania, that I really had a lucid dream and in the loosed dream I met my dream self I think today, I would say my Transposal self and in
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:26:17
This was a very beautiful human being or not human being, you know, like from the paintings.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:26:25
You have mystical paintings and people, saying to me, you want to have an exact proof that you can see or that humans can see into the future then just list, tomorrow, after you wake up you write down exactly what I what I will say, tell you and he said okay, write down Friday, 3,
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:26:47
O'clock, next Friday, 3 o'clock, approved, my just next day before Vicar will call you and okay, when I.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:26:57
When I Woke up I didn't believe in all this stuff, but I wrote down what what my dream self told me to ropes down and actually this was a girl I met just one day before and we had an appointment on Sunday and she promised to call me and she didn't call
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:27:13
This was my information I had and a lot of circumstances.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:27:16
Led to the conclusion that she tried to call me, but theiteria and telecom ruined my telephone, then she found out why, I Feel in Feature that's my that's, that's my telephone has to work and so on and then I was this dramatic Moment where We're Sitting
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:27:34
in the tuition zoom alone, and suddenly the phone was ringing and I was looking it was a clock exactly above the telephone, because exactly 3 O'clock, yeah, even on a second and then I took up the phone, and she was on the phone so 10 I got paid a little bit so I have to Admit this, was a
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:27:54
spooky moment in my life, and then for me, I wrote down in my dream barry, now the Synthesis of Magic and science, can begin.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:28:01
This was a long time ago, 25 years ago.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:28:04
So this was the starting point, because I proved myself.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:28:07
Okay, I'm my chill is few Role field is just wrong.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:28:11
It just doesn't work, all the things, I thought before about this that we need just entropy, the the second of the Dynamics, and can explain everything of course, this is made from my from my current, Viewpoint, it's, just wrong, or not not complete yeah, but but
[Peter Merry] 11:28:27
That's how that's how science should be right.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:28:30
Yeah
[Peter Merry] 11:28:30
It's like you said you set up an experiment. You went through it with a worldview that you know wasn't kind of expecting a certain result.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:28:33
Yes.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:28:40
Yes.
[Peter Merry] 11:28:40
As it were the result happens. And then that data with that data you actually question your worldview right, which is what most scientists inverted commas, do today.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:28:48
Yes, actually the result Destroyed, my Rule few at that time, but on the other hand, it was very happy, because it was right, because it's okay, hey, the universe.
[Peter Merry] 11:29:00
Hmm.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:29:00
Got big again. It was so nice before it. I I thought I can already explain nearly everything.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:29:05
As well, as static, chemistry, as I'm hoping a Phd in chemistry, but I think we should at that time started physics started some physics, mathematics, and things.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:29:13
I get. And then it was 25, I thought, okay, 4 years.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:29:16
I'm really to know everything and this experiment just is proved that and on the other so, but on the other hand, I'm always was very curious. Scientist.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:29:24
So it was such a pleasure to experience that the universe is much more complex, much more bigger.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:29:29
And there are interesting things which are waiting to be discovered, so peaceful than that my mindset.
[Peter Merry] 11:29:34
Hmm.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:29:37
And then after that I immediately after retrospect from literature,
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:29:41
I set up paro psychological experiment group with some so I I just went to some places and collect some people who have little bit academic background.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:29:53
And also some spiritual, background. And we just met once a week, for 3 years, trying out more or less. Everything.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:29:59
You can find in part of psychology, telepathy.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:30:03
Telekinas is hypnosis, do, some certain parameters in hypothesis, and so on and so on we had a lot of lot of things, so we in 3 years if you meet weekly, you can do a lot, of experiments and actually be succeeded in all of
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:30:17
Them, with a very high success rate. But what means success rate?
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:30:22
Actually, you're always to a comparison between a classical world very assume that we are separated.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:30:29
Yeah, this is the known this, is a statistical norm.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:30:32
You are assuming and you compare your results. You get for example, during a telepathy experiment.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:30:38
This assumption, and if we had, I think on our best evening, we had a probability of one to 400,000.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:30:45
That this was not a classical experience, than being. Okay, they're not these moments.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:30:49
We didn't experience, a classical world, we experience something else, you know.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:30:54
We call that what we find in this case celebrity. So just it's just one
[Peter Merry] 11:30:56
Hmm tell us tell us some of the what a couple of the most like the the experiences that were most impressive.
[Peter Merry] 11:31:05
For you, that most kind rocked your world as it were
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:31:08
Yeah, there is some of them. Actually, I I think so this is the telepathy experiment was very, scientific.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:31:17
Plans. Yeah. So we had 4 symbols, and we had a group of 10, people, almost 7.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:31:21
They were rotating and we were discussing the protocol also with skeptics, and advanced.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:31:25
Would be very very successful, but I think for me they're always to have to I'm just allowing myself at least to yeah, one is a re rich side is the other one is just a very curious person who tries really to look, okay, how far.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:31:43
We can push that paramount experiences. Yeah, and I think maybe one of the most exciting series of experiments.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:31:51
We did. was a friend of mine. She she had in in a Austrian community TV is very, very small TV.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:32:03
She had had a broadcast, it's a small process about witchcraft, and she said.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:32:12
What I think about the beachboard, you know, if you do with the glass, you have some you see a lot, of of of movies, you have beach ports.
[Peter Merry] 11:32:18
We G. Boats.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:32:21
Yeah, and I said, I, actually I think it's only the unconsciousness, which is which is between the movement and you can explain.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:32:30
Everything, like a psychologically, I don't believe actually in in in much, of that.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:32:35
And then she said, Okay, be able to app people to able to do some filming and what what do you suggest?
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:32:42
For as an experiment to prove that to the audience. And I said, Okay, it's very simple.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:32:47
We all get blindfolded, you turn around the is the Visual with with the letters on it, and then we try to get something useful out of the beach.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:32:56
Both would be applying forward and nobody does know repair.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:33:00
The letters are actually, so, the the hypothesis mostly.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:33:01
So let me be just total chaos, like if a monkey is typing on a keyboard.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:33:06
And this way, we did this experiment, and we had a lot of actually at the beginning, we did a lot of jokes about
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:33:15
How people, believe that only psychological phenomena can be paranormal, and during she so she was filming.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:33:22
She was the only One who was not flying forward, we all applied for what she was turning, a thing, and we suddenly we realized we were applied for that she just got silent she didn't she didn't say a word.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:33:34
Yeah, and we were asking the questions, and we were thinking, the the Glass, Is Producing Chaos and Chaos in here is, and after I, think 50 min is okay, you must stop now this is really this is too. Much for me.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:33:46
Yeah, and it's she was quite active. In witchcraft.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:33:49
And people. Now we saw the video, that's, the the class was precisely writing even in netting.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:33:57
It was precisely writing. It found all the letters in was writing quite complex sentences.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:34:02
Yeah, and then we continued that series. For I think half a year.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:34:09
And now became meetings just having a video camera filming the beachboard, and even a second video camera, filming us, and it always wrote something.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:34:18
Useful, yeah, because got them into details and and investigating some theories behind that.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:34:22
But this, is, I think, would lead to to too much Detroit would be too long for for today to explain that
[Peter Merry] 11:34:28
Just a little bit on on how do you. Make sense of that.
[Peter Merry] 11:34:31
Now, like what was actually going on, do you think
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:34:35
This is one example, beach, is even now, for me difficult to explain how to find a theory it's one of these examples.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:34:43
I think, what I think is that you have a coherent field,
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:34:47
Which it builds up with the people. Yeah, so actually, the consciousness of everybody sitting on a table get somehow.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:34:58
United. And this field has possibilities which which are beyond step what we think. Yeah, but this. Is really, I think one of the rare examples, where I don't have a consistent exploration, still, I don't have
[Peter Merry] 11:35:06
Umhm!
[Peter Merry] 11:35:14
I mean one of the things they found at Princeton wasn't it is that when you had a group that was aligned and connected like emotionally, but also around the shared purpose, that they were able to have a massively.
[Peter Merry] 11:35:28
More and significant impact on the random structures. Right? So there's something that happens when you get that group coherence.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:35:31
Yes, yes, okay.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:35:36
Yes.
[Peter Merry] 11:35:36
It's it's influencing the field in some way, otherwise you know wouldn't wouldn't be happening
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:35:43
Yes, you're correct, but the scale of the effect is so much higher than everything else.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:35:51
We saw also on the Random Number of Generators, I Don't have a queer and explanation, but the synchronicity of the People, is one of the most important I have to say, in in English if you Don't have Synchronicity, it would Work, yeah, Conditions, yeah, yeah.
[Peter Merry] 11:36:03
Additions. Yeah, the conditions. Yeah, yeah, okay, so, wow, 3 years of of weekly parasychology, research, that's like 150 sessions. Or something that's that that's a lot and so
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:36:17
Yeah, and then, then then I I think I can continue
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:36:23
And then actually reach the States with this group where we said, Okay, we now for us, we proved everything for us, the Parasitic she's working very well, and I.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:36:33
I came to, to to a point where I was looking for people who can even do real stuff than I experienced.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:36:40
Yes, and then, actually, these 2, guys in my room came into place.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:36:44
So my my sister in in law, she said. Hey, there are some people who can really do healing stuff, which is amazing.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:36:53
You don't believe what I saw. And of course then I'm the next week.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:36:55
I was the first time in the Dojo, where they were practicing.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:36:58
And one way of I learned from people at this at that time is I'm challenging the people sort of I was not an eightys anymore. At the time but of course I told them I don't believe in what you're doing It's just a psychological procedure so demonstrate
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:37:15
Me, please demonstrate me that it's not like that.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:37:19
And we had. I don't know we have 4 terms.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:37:21
We could around training the Afterwards, We're going to a Net police Restaurant and They're practicing, the computer Practicing. And we had a lot, a lot a lot of Sessions, and they they Showed, me that all these things, they are doing are working and very well Grounded
[Peter Merry] 11:37:37
Okay, you can't just say that wolf and not tell us another story.
[Peter Merry] 11:37:41
So you'll have to tell us which which thing they did.
[Peter Merry] 11:37:44
They do that had the biggest impression on you
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:37:48
There are 2 things, one was one of the the okay.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:37:54
Now I will tell 2 stories at that time. I believe that I had a strong belief.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:37:59
Had the belief, mind governmental. So I, thought if I hold a picture myself, for example, that my my females are an idle ring that nobody can open up the ring as long as I'm holding the picture i'm focusing on a picture this, I could demonstrate in front of an audience in at the University no
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:38:17
Problem, yeah, and I can't, imagine okay, minor, metal, also, stuff.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:38:24
You all the cheese stuff the Board stuff is just useless to just be the concentrate in focus and devastation, smiling.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:38:29
This this is not the truth. Please demonstrate, and of course
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:38:32
I was holding my picture, and ammo and Mike. We are just disrupting the chief flow on my I'm gonna make open.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:38:42
Then they they could open my my my, ring, yeah, and then I invented all sorts of defense strategies, and we are playing this game.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:38:52
I think, for for weeks. Month, yeah, I was coming see? Hey, I have a new with this new picture of myself with this new defense, making this you will not be able to crack it.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:39:02
And, not, yeah, so we played a lot of that. But I think one nice story was
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:39:08
At that time I wasn't convinced on the Meridian system, and then I'm one of the First Medicine Seminars, Mike and Arnold Pair were explaining the 8 Flows.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:39:18
This is this is a very fundamental flow system, which is
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:39:23
The basis of the meridian system, and in the Lecture let's say, okay, they they teach us which points you need to activate the 8 flows. This is the system.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:39:33
And they said, Okay, don't do that don't ever activate all the a flaws at once.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:39:40
This is you must not do that. And I. Of course, thought, okay, no, I have an experiment that really can prove myself.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:39:47
If the Marian system does work or not, so straight off the the first day of the Seminar.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:39:52
I went at home, and it was activating all 8 flow points together.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:39:58
Yes, and this ended up being approval, suffering very painful hours on the Toilets. And but after it, I knew that the Meridian system and inconsistent something very very resilient
[Peter Merry] 11:40:12
Well, that's embodied learning for you, isn't it
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:40:13
And got it, learning but please don't don't go with this direction.
[Peter Merry] 11:40:18
Don't do that at home. Yeah, that's a warning.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:40:20
We'll we'll have to say, wolf is a really lucky, guy.
[Peter Merry] 11:40:22
But
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:40:25
Yeah, so he always falls on the bride side. So if he tries some experiments which goes harm other people with him.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:40:33
It doesn't it doesn't do this, yeah, but don't try this at home
[Peter Merry] 11:40:36
So so at some point you ended up like getting into the the more kind of scientific field, world, where you must have.
[Peter Merry] 11:40:47
Where you got you got to know Brenda and this whole work with the random event, generators, and stuff like that.
[Peter Merry] 11:40:52
So how did it, all of that? Happen? How did you roll up enrolled into that into that world
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:40:57
I would say already, I think in in in also discussions, we had, during training, go to and afterwards for us was clear, that the structures we observe when you produce a so-called paranormal effect I don't like the Paranormal actually because it's, totally normal it's.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:41:14
just you know, only para normal, for a material is. So this is, I think it different viewpoint that the structures you observe are very similar to structuralifying quantum mechanics.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:41:26
So this structure, yeah, has a lot of similarities. And if you go to quantum physics, quantum physics, has some openings, it's in comparison to classical physics, quantum physics, is open and one of the open points is is randomness, yeah, sounds great but ronald's is a very very
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:41:44
Important explanation model in from Evolution, theory, and also fundamentally in quantum physics.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:41:53
And so I got that to I read all the papers from the palace.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:41:57
I was looking, basically at the literature. If there is some literature, some scientific, work, some scientific work done on the impact of intention Randomness of course, I, the first papers you find in the Internet is the papers, from Perlap and then of course, from the global Consciousness, Project of
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:42:14
Roger Nelson, and so I was into the theory.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:42:17
Much lot, much much earlier than I really came in touch with all these people.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:42:22
So I I told myself. If I get in touch with these people, I really want to have something new for them.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:42:28
Something which is interesting, yeah, and and I think, this happened then, only in the year 2,000, 19, so actually, we are broadcasting from a very historical place, because the discovery whatever will, show you in the next few moments was was was made here we discovered, this principle, here, so I I will maybe change
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:42:54
I'm show you one slide.
[Peter Merry] 11:42:57
You need to backtrack at all and just make sure and just explain to people.
[Peter Merry] 11:43:02
You know the random event, generators, and brief
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:43:03
Yeah, okay. Okay, what a random eventually it is. It's an electronic device.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:43:09
Which is doing something equivalent to coin, tossing.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:43:13
So it's just producing Zeros. And once based on quantum mechanical process.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:43:19
That mean that means that the result is by all laws of quantum physics not predictable
[Peter Merry] 11:43:25
Yeah and just to remove some of the Miss I mean, this is a random event, generator, a piece of hardware, you just plug it, into a laptop connected to some software, and it.
[Peter Merry] 11:43:36
And it like Wolf says it generates the ones and zeros in a quantum random way, and then the software tells you where how random it is?
[Peter Merry] 11:43:45
Or how deviant it is. From random, right, which is therefore the kind of influence something is having on this box, or what goes on inside this box which should be according to classical physics, completely.
[Peter Merry] 11:43:58
Impermeable to any outside influence, right.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:44:01
Yes, definitely, so I mean, this is still the whole design is made for that you can exclude any classic influence like temperature Electromagnetic fields and all things.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:44:15
You can think about the whole design of this Random number, event, generator, or reg,
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:44:22
Is, it is designed, that all these influences are excluded and tested, that all this influences would have any impact on the Zeros. And once you will get
[Peter Merry] 11:44:32
Yeah, so it has to be something else. Yeah.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:44:33
Yes, and that they're wack in prints, and what they show is that your intention has an effect on the series.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:44:42
And once it's a kubernetes different.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:44:44
Small, effect, but it's by all that it out that our intention has an impact on this random machines.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:44:51
And I took it a little bit. Further so How are it was discovered here that you also can
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:45:02
And take this a little bit further, if you take 2 of them and I will share I will show the setup we we are using.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:45:15
Now if you take 2 of them, and you
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:45:23
So if you take 2 of these running on eventual directors, and you assume a field, a field of synchronicity, and connectedness, or you can also call the field of consciousness, if you assume such a field you would expect that in a moment of synchronicity, you will influence both
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:45:43
Random Number event generators at the same time. Yeah, so get me that both are tossing more at the same time.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:45:51
More ones than Zeros, or more Zeros. And once, or in this case, you see this pattern below one rig is tossing more serious, and the other one is to See more Ones
[Peter Merry] 11:46:03
So we'll just just to explain to people the image at the bottom, if if the pattern was just random.
[Peter Merry] 11:46:10
So if you had just ran a pattern, all the lines would be what we're wiggling along the Orange Middle line.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:46:16
Yes, exactly.
[Peter Merry] 11:46:17
So if it was just random, and it wasn't being influenced by anything.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:46:20
I I'll show you my on my next slide,
[Peter Merry] 11:46:20
They would just go along the middle
[Peter Merry] 11:46:23
The red, the red curves. Yeah.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:46:24
This is what we would expect you would expect what a classically materialist would expect.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:46:30
Yeah, so you have to this parabola, the Rep Parabola, Parabolize. This.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:46:35
So so called significance, significance border, so if one of them is a long time outside of this red Parabola, you would say it's a significant deviation from randomness and what you would expect is that both Howard Cheese Allison bob stay with in this Parabolas and are not
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:46:58
Correlated. Whatsoever this is, what you would expect. If the classical material approach would be correct
[Peter Merry] 11:47:07
Which is basically that everything's random. It's not connected through a field, that anyway,
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:47:11
Yes.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:47:15
And what we found out in here was discovered here is so we were doing brutal here in the lab, and we have with with we were brexing.
[Peter Merry] 11:47:22
Doing, what
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:47:25
The basically, we, did some some martial arts. Here, what we showed yesterday, and the Hats.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:47:32
2 of these random event generators on 2 laptops, and during this Turing Training on both Laptops.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:47:43
Which we saw more as the same signal of the 2 random intervention operators.
[Peter Merry] 11:47:47
So yeah, 2, separate Laptops, each Lap, add an reg connected to it.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:47:49
So, if okay.
[Peter Merry] 11:47:52
And they were running at the same time, and then they and they and they basically showed the same pattern, even though there's no physical, connection between the Laptops, not Regis.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:47:54
Yes, exactly.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:47:59
Yes.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:48:02
Exactly, so this connection must come somewhere else
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:48:08
And actually, if you see such a connection, and you you can calculate the significance of this connection, and then you we know now, yeah, because it's a we are we did already 3 years of research that's, the this idea that we are all separate individuals, moving around like classic award is just an illusion it's just
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:48:27
Option. End of the story
[Peter Merry] 11:48:29
A wolf, were on the Materialist slide. Still was there were you showing us another one or
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:48:33
Yes, yes, so what I show you now is just just the 2 graphs recorded during Timetravels.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:48:43
Yeah, and the interesting thing. Here is, you see over hours both of them are both are correlated.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:48:53
So they are moving together. out of the significant sport, and they stay together for 6 h, and then the Ritual Emit they go back to normal and I think the interesting part is that the Default Reproducible So even so it was A a Ritual Structure, a 100 Rigid, well.
[Peter Merry] 11:49:03
Hmm.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:49:12
The structure was the same but Place, and people are different and you see, almost starting November, 2,019 what was the Initial like Trend, 2,000, and 22 and you see, the Similarity, I think is obvious and this is really just the opposite of
[Peter Merry] 11:49:25
Yeah
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:49:30
Non-structure data that is a highly structured data which was used by these 2 origin
[Peter Merry] 11:49:30
Alright.
[Peter Merry] 11:49:33
Wow! That's really cool, that you see, the 2 Separate Regs running together.
[Peter Merry] 11:49:39
Until, the end of the Tantra Ritual, where they kind of go back to being random, so there's something going on in the field of consciousness, when a group Coheres around the Shared, Ritual, right That's, Influencing what by all Classical means should be a Purely Random
[Peter Merry] 11:49:55
Event. And it's something that can't be explained by the Physical Materialist sciences, because it they there's no way they can explain that this kind of correlation which is itself a scientific measurement, but they just can't explain.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:50:09
Exactly, exactly.
[Peter Merry] 11:50:09
It right
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:50:13
I think I I'm not
[Peter Merry] 11:50:13
Or maybe you coming to me, I. Think when you you did some of these first got some of these first results, and we jumped on A. Call, and Wolf was kind of Bouncing up and Down, with Excitement and he said, this is the Nail in the Coffin of Materialist, Science.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:50:28
Yes, exactly.
[Peter Merry] 11:50:34
Yeah, yeah, very, cool. Very, cool. Hmm.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:50:42
So.
[Peter Merry] 11:50:43
Okay, so that's how you so you then kind of discovered this whole world of the random Event generators.
[Peter Merry] 11:50:51
And I guess what that did. Is that took the research to a new level right in terms of in terms of being able to research, essentially what we're measuring is the is this field whatever we want to call it a field of consciousness, or the field of energy information that exists between people.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:51:07
Exactly exactly, and when I when when I had these results. then, I thought, okay, now, I have, I think I have something useful.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:51:15
But then I just wrote some, a scientific letter, to facilitate from from to Brenda down and that was how we got all Connected now we are meeting once A Weekend, doing research on that you know and it.
[Peter Merry] 11:51:26
Yeah, yeah, just tell us a little bit about some of the most recent research you've been doing
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:51:32
So so the time to research is continuing, so, and you have a lot.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:51:37
A lot more examples of of such data and we are also investigating now in in a more controlled area in intensity.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:51:44
Here, you in Spain, we are we are measured to do exactly the same measurement.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:51:49
During the process of Dying. And we want to find out something about the process of Dying, and we have very promising preliminary results on that
[Peter Merry] 11:51:54
Hmm.
[Peter Merry] 11:51:58
Yeah, so actually, what happens in this, field, when somebody, dies, right, seeing structures in that field
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:52:03
Yes, yes.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:52:06
Yes, exactly.
[Peter Merry] 11:52:08
Yeah. Yeah. Hannah was just saying it just to one of the comments, in the chat was isn't this the Cosmic Field of Intelligence, and I do I just kind of wrote back, well, I think there may be many names.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:52:21
Yes.
[Peter Merry] 11:52:22
Field, but I also feel, and it's maybe something we're starting to discover.
[Peter Merry] 11:52:28
As we start to be able to analyze this data.
[Peter Merry] 11:52:31
Better now, with your new system is that, we may then maybe actually different kinds of field and we need rather than just talk about the field that may be different qualities of that field, or different you know layers of a field or something so we're really so early on in this in this work but I feel like
[Peter Merry] 11:52:52
we're gonna we're we're, we're being very
[Peter Merry] 11:52:54
What should I say simplistic in the way we're talking about it right.
[Peter Merry] 11:52:59
Now, because We're only just discovering it. Whereas there's probably many dimensions to this field phenomena, right
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:53:05
Yeah, I I think there will be ways to describe it.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:53:10
But I think of but I think it's it's it's important that you in research.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:53:14
It's also important that really the fact make predictions.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:53:17
With the data you have. So for example, okay, if if a certain quality among people arises, do we see similar patterns.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:53:24
At the moment. It it goes. We have a trend in this direction, but we cannot say, for sure, yeah, so we have to find some details structures.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:53:34
And and so on, that we can do something with it, as we can predict future results.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:53:37
So this is, I think the very healthy nucleus of science.
[Peter Merry] 11:53:41
Yeah
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:53:42
The very the nucleus of sciences is is is applying.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:53:45
The deductive inductive method that's it's actually and it's very natural to to to us.
[Peter Merry] 11:53:47
Yeah
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:53:50
I think all children are something in in this modern dimension states.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:53:54
They are in a mixture between magicians and scientists.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:53:57
So I think, it was one of the discussions I had with with Jeff done.
[Peter Merry] 11:53:57
Yeah
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:54:03
And he said, Okay, yes, science is very, a very modern method.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:54:06
And it's the best method we have. Yeah, but on the other hand, it's a very natural methods. All children are from the Metro State are in are scientists, and Magicians at the same time.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:54:20
So this is like very much exciting
[Peter Merry] 11:54:20
It's a nice way to think, about it, we need to kind of get back to being sign scientists, and magicians at the same time, which is really the point that I of this program of the modern day, magic is to to introduce both aspects, of that right or Paul asks, what do we think of Shell
[Peter Merry] 11:54:34
Drake's work. Well, it's very aligned.
[Peter Merry] 11:54:37
Rupert Shell Drake, has been in the Weird experience with us in Yorkshire Playing with the Princeton Equipment and things essentially Shell Drake's Demonstrating through his Research, that Mind Extends, beyond the Brain, You know in Ways, the Classical Science Can't
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:54:37
Yes.
[Peter Merry] 11:54:53
explain. And maybe it's just worth pausing for a minute and reflecting on so how do we explain what's going on?
[Peter Merry] 11:55:01
And of course, these are just hypotheses at the moment.
[Peter Merry] 11:55:05
But like you know, like the the Princeton Researchers said, Well, if you've got data that challenges, your model and your way of understanding, things, then you need to rethink your model, yeah, and one of the ways, I've, been thinking about it and i'm interested in you know, how you
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:55:17
Definitely
[Peter Merry] 11:55:23
Relate to this is that basically if we think of everything as information, yeah, and that's a really interesting word, right?
[Peter Merry] 11:55:31
Because it's about things coming into form in formation.
[Peter Merry] 11:55:34
And if we link it to the to the quantum world, then it's an increase in the probability, like as we create patterns, or structures in the Randomness We're, increasing the probability of something manifest there's no Kind of linear Guarantee but it will but that in Information, is becoming Denser or
[Peter Merry] 11:55:54
More coherent in a way, that at some point it locks the waves become standing waves as it were they lock in and the pattern becomes dense enough for us, to be able to experience it with our three-d senses, but it's all a spectrum of information basically and that as we Work
[Peter Merry] 11:56:14
With our consciousness, we're working with the information in a more subtle form than the material form that we can see around us, but it's just an extension of the same spectrum of information, really but this is just what we see now around Us, is just more Dense information let's say than
[Peter Merry] 11:56:33
The information that we're connecting to with our consciousness so that's you know that's kind of the story in a way having you know, whatever I've looked at in my Phd, in the stories that I hear seems to make sense of this of this world that's all one
[Peter Merry] 11:56:52
Spectrum, and that what we do with our consciousness in that co-creation.
[Peter Merry] 11:56:56
Process we in. If we're intending something, influencing that randomness we're creating patterns that I have more probability of manifesting, than they would otherwise does that how how would you how did how would you respond or any of the 3 of you to kind of thinking about things that way
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:57:16
You would like well,
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:57:22
I would say I and hope we have discussed this quite quite some time.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:57:29
So we have seen affects the differ in the properties, and so so I for myself, I have classified something like a consciousness, effect, and a part psychological effort, and they have if you look at them.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:57:44
In close detail. You see that they are they have very different properties.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:57:49
Yeah, and now, our discussion is what is the consciousness effect e a effect.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:57:54
What does it parks like a psychology effect? How do they relate to each other?
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:57:58
Is there a continuum between the 2? Or are they completely separate? Or whatever?
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:58:03
Yeah, and I think that that the research wolf is doing with this random number generators, is very important, because it it shows that it is not solely, a par psychological effect, as we scientifically, understanding now yeah, it, has some properties, the the repeatability and and to this quite stable, recent that we get out of
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:58:27
Of the also the preliminary results of Spain, and so on.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:58:30
So what we see is this is reliable. Yeah, and the part, psychological effect is not reliable at all. Yeah.
[Peter Merry] 11:58:37
Tell us the difference. A bit Mike, you know I was in a in a succinct way, as you can.
[Peter Merry] 11:58:44
How are you currently understanding, the difference between what you're calling, a parasyological effect, and a consciousness effect
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:58:49
Yeah, sure, so the this I had the suspicion quite a long time.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:58:58
That there, is some difference, and and then there was that netflix series, which is called a beneath the Debt, or something like that so Peter Fenwick yeah, from Peter Fenwick Yeah.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:59:09
And he was he was in the series. So so there were different.
[Peter Merry] 11:59:10
Hey! Just
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:59:13
Episodes for the first was India that experiences what people experience when they nearly died and then come back and the second was about mediums, so when the Channel something yeah, and then there was also a Part of of Reincarnation, Memories, yeah and so the if you look at them.
[Peter Merry] 11:59:21
Hmm.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:59:36
They are very different experiences. So if you have a near-death experience, or this Ringcanation, memory they can give you very very precise details what happened.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:59:49
Yeah, there's even one case, superintendent memory.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 11:59:52
Which is in, the, in, the, in, the in, the history, in the literature, where this led to the to the solving of a murder, case.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:00:01
Yeah, so, we're a child at the Reincarnation memory of its own murder in the previous life.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:00:06
If you want to say it's more complicated as we understand it.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:00:09
Now, but just to keep it simple for now so which lets the police to the veteran from the past, 11 they could solve it.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:00:19
Yeah, so there are a lot of details, whatever in in this series.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:00:22
There's an example, where where one person gave 200 facts to check and they could verify 55 of the Checks of the previous life,
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:00:33
This is so you have very sharp information, although the native experiences where one of the cases was.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:00:41
Where a woman who was under surgery and the Brain Surgery.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:00:45
And this was a brain surgery where you shut down the brain.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:00:49
So there is no actual brain waves. There. Yeah, cardiac arrest.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:00:54
The heart is stopped, the brain is stopped, then to do. The surgery, and then to revive you.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:00:59
Yeah, and she could. She could describe the the the complete process and instruments, the desertions used. And so on.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:01:07
Yeah, so you get precise information on the other side. If you look at mediums.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:01:12
For example, you have very imprecise information. So they want to to if they channel something and and they give you some information.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:01:19
It's always very unclear. Very, very, very diffuse.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:01:24
Very. Blood. Yeah, and in the end it you see, yeah, you could have got this information, if you Google did somewhere, yeah, so that's that's why this is a little bit in yeah, scientists, don't trust, mediums yeah, let let's say, it like, that because it's not also.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:01:41
it's also not reproductive and Laboratory Conditions and that's one of the important things of science.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:01:48
Here you' to reproduce things. Also if you look at telekinetic experiments, and so on in the left are quite hard to reproduce.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:01:56
Yeah, so, from the nature of a parab psychological effect.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:02:02
It is that it's you don't get 100%. Clear information.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:02:07
It's always I'm shopping, spurry.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:02:10
It's it's somehow the you account say what exactly will happen.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:02:14
Yeah, they are all the surprises. If you try to to to narrow it down the more you narrow it down for example, with cameras, with measurement instruments, Tapes, Recordings, whatever yeah, the less, happens, or it happens.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:02:29
In a completely different way that they wouldn't expect and that the instruments cannot record.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:02:34
Yeah, this, is the nature of a power psychological effect. And this is also, why sciences very long 200 refuted to the hour.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:02:41
They are yeah, so.
[Peter Merry] 12:02:42
So my just to clarify is. Do you think in the first, so the first you're calling a consciousness effect right with the so in those conditions it feels more like somebody's just picking some Picking something.
[Peter Merry] 12:02:54
Up right? So they know it already. Whereas under the paris psychological one, we're trying to achieve something, right, isn't it
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:02:57
Yeah
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:03:02
Yeah, no. Then yeah, they if you want the physical difference, the power of psychological effect is an entanglement phenomenon.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:03:11
Yeah, more, or less, like in quantum physics. It's a little bit different.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:03:16
But you can imagine it like that, while a consciousness effect is more of
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:03:22
If we go into into into integral theory then we have subtle and calls.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:03:27
So states, of currentness, yeah, and in supplement and and causal states, you are trans personnel.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:03:34
So you are more than the person, you are. Yeah, and these consciousness effects seem to be that that there is some more interlinking.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:03:44
It has more like a field, property, which, and and thank you, Mint Thompson.
[Peter Merry] 12:03:49
Interesting, listen. We don't need to go into loads of detail, but it's an interesting that's the kind of Inquiry, you know that we need to be in I think with each other now is Making some Distinctions here rather than just talking about fields or what do we mean you know like
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:03:50
Yeah, so
[Peter Merry] 12:04:04
There are some levels that seem to like you. Say, be more, wired or more connected up that give you more precise information, somehow.
[Peter Merry] 12:04:12
And then, and then more of this kind, of internal, effect, so that's quite interesting to explore some of those some of those Differences, yeah, hey?
[Peter Merry] 12:04:21
Now, you you guys, you had a demonstration. I know you wanted to do so let's make sure we get to that.
[Peter Merry] 12:04:26
Before we run out of time
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:04:27
Yeah, I know. So The first thing I wanted to show you, is we will show people, show you where something like coming from it's called coaching. And I will show you the impact of A Kuchi, on a random number event generator.
[Peter Merry] 12:04:43
Could you
[Peter Merry] 12:04:49
What is it? Oh, okay? Hmm.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:04:52
We'll show you
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:04:55
It comes from the from engineers and manifest.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:04:58
By, the subtle, in, in the body, or in the physical world.
[Peter Merry] 12:05:01
Comes from.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:05:02
Yeah, if if you if you look at this, this, the cheap ninja movies, they call it an engineer, magic, yeah.
[Peter Merry] 12:05:10
Isn't that true of everything? It comes from emptiness, through the subtle into the material
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:05:14
Yeah, but in this case, without the we thought, the body, the transmission.
[Peter Merry] 12:05:22
Wow!
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:05:22
So I think that's an that's an interesting graph.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:05:25
Yeah, you see that there is this is just one around the mum, eventually generator, and you see, it's basically Producing Baseline, until this point and exactly at these points some things, similar we'll, show you in in our demonstration, Akuchi was was Shot at the at
[Peter Merry] 12:05:25
Hmm.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:05:47
Theology. And you see an immediate immediately. It's reacting and then going far out of the so called Normal Area.
[Peter Merry] 12:05:54
So that's a subtle energy force. Let's say it's being
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:05:57
Yes.
[Peter Merry] 12:06:00
Being, yeah, being directed at the Random Event generator that by classical science shouldn't be able to be affected by anything. And yet the Moment that the subtle energy was directed at it you got this highly statistically significant effect, yeah, nice
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:06:17
Exactly.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:06:19
So
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:06:32
Okay. Not.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:06:39
Okay, not this, Yup, so We've got, to muscle, testing like yesterday, is he I'm, sorry.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:06:50
No, I do something like we we recorded
[Peter Merry] 12:06:58
I don't think we needed the muscle testing to see that both reaction
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:07:00
Notice
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:07:00
Yes, absolutely, yeah, and this was kind of this was kind of a big movement.
[Peter Merry] 12:07:05
Okay, so, so.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:07:10
Yeah, so okay, make him strong again.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:07:14
Yeah, cool, yeah, so this was very, big, yeah, so this, Can be very, very, subtle.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:07:24
It still works.
[Peter Merry] 12:07:26
It was like Arnold this time. Luckily Mike can heal it again
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:07:31
What we what we were calling, we actually we were. I was outside of the of the laboratory and had a talk with wolf.
[Peter Merry] 12:07:38
Hmm.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:07:41
And down below, and some other guys will sitting with the with the computers.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:07:46
And I take this outside down here, and then we had this effect here. Yes, because
[Peter Merry] 12:07:52
Okay. So tell us, just tell us some for a moment. Arnold, what did you just do
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:07:57
For me, this is like a a I haven't thought bringing it to my mind.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:08:05
Give me a physical form. And this is using an effect. This was at the beginning.
[Peter Merry] 12:08:09
Right.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:08:12
Now for me, this is just like you, feel like, I brute.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:08:17
I get in my body. I got bring out so in the beginning.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:08:20
It was like a phone bringing to mind bringing into a form.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:08:26
With my physical body, and nowadays, for me, this is like a feeling I catch from somewhere and just make it real.
[Peter Merry] 12:08:34
So do you feel like it's one way to describe it.
[Peter Merry] 12:08:37
Would be you're sending information into wolves system that is disrupting
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:08:41
Yeah, because we can we can show this also on the Meridian base, please, testing, most
[Peter Merry] 12:08:47
Hey, k keep look after Wolf. We need him right.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:08:50
So you have a meridian here going up in front of the body.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:08:56
So when it just pushed down here, I disrupt this flow of information as the body gets weak.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:09:03
If I do this in the correct, direction, like the meridian flow goes it's restoring the information that is good
[Peter Merry] 12:09:13
So simple at one level, isn't it
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:09:15
Yeah, but you can also make it. You can use it in very bad stuff, too.
[Peter Merry] 12:09:20
Yeah, i'm sure. Yeah, but I mean, again, these are these are like, non, physical, intervention.
[Peter Merry] 12:09:26
There's nothing. Physical. There's no physical, connection between you and We'll
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:09:27
Oh, well, it's on the information, level. Yeah.
[Peter Merry] 12:09:32
Yeah, yeah, but the great, the I mean, it is like you talked about yesterday, the the kind of ability to imbalance, and then restore balance, that they both rein you know both reinforce each other.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:09:43
Yeah
[Peter Merry] 12:09:46
So you can do these things, and then you can heal it instantly.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:09:48
If there, what we were talking about yesterday with feeling. Yeah, so both can this do to me.
[Peter Merry] 12:09:48
As well
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:09:55
Of course, so, Mike, please. Yeah, so he can do.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:10:01
Yeah, and then I we learn even in the heck yourself.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:10:06
We will have to protect us from stuff. Like this. So once more, please, okay.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:10:14
So basically, I just ignore the information coming in he can do that
[Peter Merry] 12:10:20
Yeah, yeah, that's that's a, bit of mastery.
[Peter Merry] 12:10:24
There. I think oh, no yeah, cool. great
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:10:24
That's cool. But actually, what we are planning was for in person we can.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:10:35
You can play really a lot of interesting and funny games with that with the Supple Protection stuff like that so it's and Restoring again, and restoring again.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:10:45
So the whole cycle, you can learn a lot of that to be played.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:10:47
This really nights long, instead of card games, we play with death.
[Peter Merry] 12:10:54
Right.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:10:55
And actually we we did this once in a double blind.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:11:01
Test, yeah, because we wanted to know of course, the Wolf wanted to know this I didn't believe that I said steel, this is something like micro micro classical perception.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:11:13
So I said, Okay, we will do a double blind experiment. It's not.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:11:19
You tell me yeah, so so we set up that one was writing down in point of of 10.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:11:28
Things muscle tests should be strong weeks wrong week in in random, order.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:11:34
Yeah, whatever, and I was with with move, yes, in in a room, and Arnold was was throwing the coaches, so he got the paper and throw the Coaches and said strong week whatever was on the on the T 10, list, yeah, I think it's. Important I'm not was in another room.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:11:55
In Mike didn't know the list I didn't know it was it could be a double blind experiment, and we only had a messenger with signal you.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:12:03
Can test, this was the yeah, exactly. And yeah, then then there was honored with throng, de Kuchi, I was testing Wolf.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:12:10
And then we recorded the tests. And then afterwards, we we compared to papers, so input output, yeah comparison, and we had 9 out of 10, so you could develop a more score with that but actually if you're really weak it's, not so comfortable
[Peter Merry] 12:12:18
Oh, yeah.
[Peter Merry] 12:12:25
Yeah, somebody was Somebody was asking in the chat about remote viewing and I, know we're gonna do some remote perception work during the Free Webinar in January and and during the Hack the World program, We're gonna really develop that Competence and do some real research around
[Peter Merry] 12:12:44
It I just wanted to tell the story of one of the things that happened when we were brought in at the same time, consciousness, event, cause It's so cold, and it surprised us all as well so we every year, we do this remote perception, experiment where we have a group of people in the forest just on forest
[Peter Merry] 12:13:03
Bathing. Each person is paired with someone who's still in the conference, and they go and find a place.
[Peter Merry] 12:13:09
They look at something, and they try to send that picture back to the person in the room, and then the person in the room is picking it up and trying to describe it, and draw it.
[Peter Merry] 12:13:19
And generally always get hits, like accurate, kind of reflections.
[Peter Merry] 12:13:24
People pick that up, and of and the interesting thing is that you ask the people in the room to pick up the picture, before the person, in the wood has actually even decided what they're going to look at or where they're going, to sit, so somebody was asking about about time, this happens outside of linear
[Peter Merry] 12:13:44
Time, now last Time we had some people with us who were doing a lot of work with these kind of AI generated art and one person was sitting in the in the room, to receive the picture and their partner, was in the woods, sending the picture and they just typed in to the AI machine they
[Peter Merry] 12:14:07
Typed in what is my partner sending me? So you normally write with these AI art things, you actually type in a description of what you want the AI, machine to Generate and it generates a picture based on your words here it was just the question what is this person sending me, and
[Peter Merry] 12:14:23
I'm gonna show you the pictures that came out so in a minute, what you'll see on the left is the picture the person was was had in mind.
[Peter Merry] 12:14:31
When they they were trying to send to their partner and the picture on the right is what the AI art system generated without any verbal clues.
[Peter Merry] 12:14:43
So here on the left is the picture that the person was how in mind a tower, basically in water, and here on the right is the picture that the AI art system generated in response to the question what is my partner sending me not a tower, in Water just what is my partner sending me so that kind
[Peter Merry] 12:15:09
Of through all of our minds. for a bit, until we started to think well.
[Peter Merry] 12:15:16
If you, when you look at what this software is composed of, there's actually a lot of random Structure, in this AI art.
[Peter Merry] 12:15:28
Software and so you could you could understand it, this way and that the intention was is that the person is sending is influencing the randomness in the AI software to generate something that's.
[Peter Merry] 12:15:42
Kind of coherent, with what they're sending.
[Peter Merry] 12:15:45
But you know, if you think about the implications of that on the Reg we're, just seeing the kind of quantity of impact that somebody is having with their intention on this AI art system you suddenly started to see the the quality of what somebody was Sending as well, not just the Influence but somehow that information that
[Peter Merry] 12:16:08
They were sending was reflected in the AI, art software so that's a whole nother, domain, of research that I think we need to get into.
[Peter Merry] 12:16:22
But that was that was pretty interesting in terms of the remote perception questions.
[Peter Merry] 12:16:28
Somebody, had so so just as we move towards the end. Here.
[Peter Merry] 12:16:32
I'd love Wolf just to touch base on the kind of why, in a way, why do you feel this is important work to be doing why you'd kind of dedicating, so much of your Life to it both in Terms, of you know, the Course, We're doing obviously but also with Weird a Tech where We're
[Peter Merry] 12:16:51
Trying to build these lamps that will respond to our intention, and things like that, you know it's the thing you're most excited.
[Peter Merry] 12:16:59
About why is that? Why do you feel? Why do you think it's important?
[Peter Merry] 12:17:02
And and relevant for today
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:17:05
I think that
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:17:10
Something to be. If you can measure the field of consciousness.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:17:14
If you can measure the feed of Connectedness, I think this can be the basis of a new modern Western spirituality.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:17:22
So I think it's very important to combine. Let's say, old wisdom of Magic.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:17:33
Whatever we know with really the best what we have from modern times.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:17:37
Unlike especially Science, Scientific methods, but also modern communication structures, more than organizational structures.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:17:45
So we don't want to have a medieval structure in in you know, groups, anymore.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:17:51
Yeah, so, I think, this modern type of investigating is object.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:17:58
And to have something which can measure that impact you have. So it's basically I'm Fascinated by this feedback process, you have we have an impact on a physical device which can measure what is what what is your inner states, are doing.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:18:16
And then you can you can I'm fascinated by the by the perspective to okay, we there is a big, wide landscape out, there, you can explore it with our new modern methods of course you can also be did and I think this idea of the v are all isolated that we are now so
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:18:40
Which is not present in Western society. Can just be dish disillusionized every day.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:18:45
If somebody is sitting in front of this, for example, text device with these 2 Rds and practicing some meditations, some Heck, Heck yourself, Stuff, or whatever it's a Measureable Feedback Loop, and I think this will Change a lot, this is just my Personal Opinion and for me
[Peter Merry] 12:19:00
Hmm.
[Peter Merry] 12:19:02
Hmm.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:19:06
It's also important I see it as a very incident day, which which which can which will lead the people to more freedom to promote autonomy and to more connectedness and love at the same time, so
[Peter Merry] 12:19:19
That's a good reason, Mike, will you gonna say something there
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:19:24
Well, yes, I just wanted to add without getting burned as switches.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:19:29
Yeah, so a few 100 years ago, just for what we showed here, I would have probably been
[Peter Merry] 12:19:36
Hmm, yeah, yeah, and yeah, so somehow, it all got buried. Didn't it?
[Peter Merry] 12:19:40
It all got buried, and it all got pushed to one side.
[Peter Merry] 12:19:44
When we separated science and spirituality, or we gave kind of spirituality to the church and and science wasn't allowed to touch it.
[Peter Merry] 12:19:51
And now We're at that point where it looks like we're going.
[Peter Merry] 12:19:54
To be able to reintegrate these things, which is you know, really exciting, and I think well, somewhere will heal a major collective trauma in the Human Story as Well because that's, Separation is so artificial and it's and it's just disconnected us
[Peter Merry] 12:20:08
from the reality, that we are actually a part of you know.
[Peter Merry] 12:20:13
And I think somewhere that's and it's something that everybody experiences deep down, is extremely, painful and is driving a lot of the splits and problems in the world. Today.
[Peter Merry] 12:20:22
So I think it could really have a serious seriously, positive impact.
[Peter Merry] 12:20:26
Yeah, so, cool good, work.
[Peter Merry] 12:20:30
So thanks guys for today, time flies, when you're having fun, it's 20, past anything, anyone wants you any of you want to add on old anything you want to add before we
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:20:41
I I just want to say one thing here, and it is what you call the 3 Musketeers he's, on guy, these 2 guys are the scientific bar for me this is more like practical.
[Peter Merry] 12:20:49
Hmm.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:20:55
I listen to them, but for me, it's I do the things, and then they record.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:21:01
And then they put it in theory and then we talk about it.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:21:05
And I, was I'm yeah nice. Cool. Yeah, so I read also, this, stuff, and I do the things.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:21:11
But I'm not so much into explaining because I'm going to.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:21:16
I I want to do. Now it's come from my inside.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:21:19
I do. And these 2 guys help me translate what I experience, yeah, when I'm teaching and I want to tell to teach this, to the people, they help me translate what was going on in myself
[Peter Merry] 12:21:32
Hmm. Sounds like the perfect combination, that's why I'm so excited about this whole modern Day magic program.
[Peter Merry] 12:21:38
And you know, and the the hack the world, we're gonna do first, which I'm definitely gonna participate in, and then and then at the end of the so the plan, where we have it set up some people, have been mentioning in the in the Chat is We're doing the online.
[Peter Merry] 12:21:54
Hack, hack yourself first half of the year, second, half of the year, the online hack, the world, where we'll be able to do a some Level of Experience and There'll be Homework, Experiential Exercises, to Do as Well as the Understanding, and Feedback, from those Exercises, and then
[Peter Merry] 12:22:11
In January 24, for people who followed that program they'll then be an in person event.
[Peter Merry] 12:22:18
Where we can actually experience it more in person as well, so and then we'll see what we do after that.
[Peter Merry] 12:22:27
Go ahead, thanks guys, for your time and for joining us these last couple of days, Dr.
[Peter Merry] 12:22:33
Garrison feels to me like we've kinda come full circle in terms, of how we might help deal with this isolation question.
[Jim Garrison] 12:22:44
Indeed
[Peter Merry] 12:22:44
Connectedness, one of the cool lamps that we're gonna do that We're developing weird, a tech is a twin lamp.
[Peter Merry] 12:22:51
Where you could have one in your room, and I can have one in my room, and when I think of you, your lamp, will glow so that's the Kind of evidence Right in front of us, that you know we're connected in ways, that we can't actually see but which of course, the wisdom
[Peter Merry] 12:23:06
Traditions have always told us, and which our sciences at last catching up with, to give us the explanations for
[Jim Garrison] 12:23:14
Yeah, you know, what was coming to me, and first, just thank you, all 3 of you for a splendid two-day, program, because You've really made all this come alive and I think there will be a lot of us.
[Jim Garrison] 12:23:28
Still will be wanting to join your course next year.
[Jim Garrison] 12:23:31
But just to touch as we close on your last comment wolf, about what you do intuitively, you need the others.
[Jim Garrison] 12:23:45
To express more explicitly, you know and that's one of the extraordinary phenomena in our world I'm I'm thinking for Example of Carolyn Mace, Who's a Medical Clairvoyant and You know Here She was Kind of a Chain
[Peter Merry] 12:23:48
Arnold, yeah.
[Jim Garrison] 12:24:02
Smoking, Chicago tough Journalist and began to just notice that when she would pass people in the stream.
[Jim Garrison] 12:24:09
She knew exactly what their ailment was
[Jim Garrison] 12:24:13
And it bothered her because she didn't believe in it.
[Jim Garrison] 12:24:20
And yet it got big it got stronger and stronger in her psyche against her will until finally she had Major migraines.
[Jim Garrison] 12:24:30
If you heard her story, but to make it a long story very short, it wasn't until years later, after trying to repress this awareness that she had that she went to a conference in met a guy named Norm sheili who was a brain surgeon and they as they began to talk she
[Jim Garrison] 12:24:52
Says I can tell you what's going on, and he says well, a lot of my neuro science and surgery.
[Jim Garrison] 12:24:59
I actually don't know what's going on. So they began a partnership.
[Jim Garrison] 12:25:04
Where she was in new Hampshire, and he was in the midwest in Missouri, and when he would have a new patient he would send Carolyn hit their name and age, and Permission and Sitting there you know a 1,000 miles away she would give Norm a complete Printout, of what was wrong with
[Jim Garrison] 12:25:29
That patient and over, I think about 1520 years she had 94% accuracy.
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:25:37
Well.
[Jim Garrison] 12:25:37
And so that's this domain of medical clairvoyance, and I wanted to bring it in because what you guys are talking about today is seems that it's you know let's, Let's try a Lamp, and let's see if we can do a random generating that's that's
[Peter Merry] 12:25:42
Hmm.
[Jim Garrison] 12:25:55
Sort of like the tip of the iceberg, the the the iceberg is that we all know and there are impediments to our retrieving it consciously but I could just feel in the way you were in interacted and particularly when you were standing up and then you you know
[Jim Garrison] 12:26:19
Kind of not been over. But yeah, we could all see that your energy level was changing when the other one was, it was affecting you and if you think about that happening around the world and that different human beings, for whatever sets of car make a traumatic reasons become open and susceptible, to
[Jim Garrison] 12:26:45
This, knowledge that's there all the time. You have a sense of how profound this domain, is and which if Xx access allows us to do a lot, more then influence, a random generating machine.
[Jim Garrison] 12:27:05
What would be your closing comments on that it's really about the potential of the work that you're doing to influence human health well-being and world events
[Peter Merry] 12:27:20
You guys are gonna say, anything, or
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:27:22
I I think, yeah, nothing to add, I think because exactly.
[Peter Merry] 12:27:29
Yeah, I mean, in a way, the technology Jim is a bridge, isn't it?
[Peter Merry] 12:27:32
It's always we kind of create things in the world around us.
[Jim Garrison] 12:27:33
Yeah yeah yeah
[Peter Merry] 12:27:36
That act as mirrors to our inner world, and so it's it's a way it made me for the Western mind, I think you know, to be able to go oh, so I can influence that Lamp without any physical Connection.
[Peter Merry] 12:27:47
Between me, and the lamp, huh! Question mark and it's just that you know that then opens the door to be Able to explore, you know these dimensions, that her or have been denied by our edge.
[Peter Merry] 12:28:02
Formal education are denied by most of the culture around Us.
[Peter Merry] 12:28:05
And so it just starts to create a I guess, a cultural space.
[Peter Merry] 12:28:11
You know where people go. Huh! If you've got one of those lamps, it's cool, how do that work what does that mean alright what did you find? Works?
[Jim Garrison] 12:28:16
Yeah yeah yeah
[Peter Merry] 12:28:18
More effectively, so it's it really is it's, it's a you know, and some people, don't need it.
[Peter Merry] 12:28:23
I think you know unless some like obviously Caroline wouldn't need anything like this. But how we go.
[Peter Merry] 12:28:28
How are we move from? Like the very early innovators to the early adopters, potentially in the later dot.
[Peter Merry] 12:28:35
You know that adoption, curve of consciousness. You know, I think these these kind of technologies, particularly in our Western world, where the scientific rack mindset is so predominantly are a really, good.
[Peter Merry] 12:28:48
Way, of Bridging, that gap and I think importantly bring in the notion that we know.
[Peter Merry] 12:28:54
If we move into spirituality we don't have to ditch the science in fact, it's really important to keep them together.
[Peter Merry] 12:29:00
So that we are fairly you know, disciplined about our claims, that we can make, and that we can you know back back those claims up as one would you know, if you're writing a phd or a master's thesis or something.
[Jim Garrison] 12:29:15
Well, thank you guys, this is been really exhilarating.
[Jim Garrison] 12:29:20
And I really want to acknowledge the the Pioneering work that you're doing, and recommend to our humanity, rising audience your program on modern Day magic that's Gonna take place next year and I love it that it's gonna be over a number of months
[Jim Garrison] 12:29:39
So that we can take incrementally in what you're teaching and integrated into our lives over time.
[Jim Garrison] 12:29:49
Because I think often that's a very important part of the process is taking time to really internalize and integrate the truths that you will be revealing to us in an embodied way, so thank you and that does it for us for today, everyone i'll just say that tomorrow.
[Jim Garrison] 12:30:10
We have another program on this general the domain, around going down the rabbit hole, which is another vector that we'll be talking about in terms of what they call, self transformation, so that'll be tomorrow, here, on humanity, rising you'll see, the link in the
[Jim Garrison] 12:30:32
Chat, for our after Session Chat Group. You please join us, if you can, and we'll see everybody else. Tomorrow as we continue our final week here on humanity, rising before we take our our break for the holidays, thank you everyone, bye for now
[Wolfhardt Janu] 12:30:48
Thank you, bye, bye