Day130HRChat
Humanity Rising Day 130 Chat Page
- Date: Tuesday November 3, 2020 (2020-11-03)
- Back to HR!Day130 - The Consequences of the US Presidential Election with Charles Eisenstein, Vandana Shiva and Shelly Alcorn
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Text of the Zoom Chat from HR Day 130:
From: jas dale (11:01 AM) Hello From: West Wales, UK
From: shelly alcorn (11:01 AM) hello all - :D
From: Sharon Truax (11:01 AM) Good Day From: Seattle. Staying in the stillness here.
From: Shannon McArthur (11:01 AM) Good Morning, Jim, and all you wonderful people seeking the greatest good for All That Is… please include all attendees in your comments here. May your day be far better than you expect.
From: carol adAM)s (11:02 AM) greetings From: the ancestral land of the Lenni Lenape (Philadelphia From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:02 AM) Good morning on this beautiful sunny day in the woods of North Carolina!
From: jas dale (11:02 AM) There is no data suggesting medical pandemic in the UK
From: Hilary Van Welter (11:03 AM) Happy New Dawn Day From: Canada
From: Cindy Bledsoe (11:04 AM) Loving greetings From: Cindy in sunny South Carolina
From: Sharon Truax (11:05 AM) @jim Thank you for setting the tone for the day.
From: Suzanne Marie (11:06 AM) Yes, for the Greatest Good of All That Is!
From: Me to Panelists: (11:07 AM) . ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541 . ..oOo.. ========================== . We have an email list for Chat People to interact without being on at the sAM)e time. We also send a daily message to the list that points to all of the HR Chats since mid July. Write to be added to the list: -- stan@communitymagic.org ==========================
From: Sharon Truax (11:07 AM) My peace and joy fill us all today. Blessings.
From: Me (11:08 AM) . ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541 . ..oOo.. ========================== . We have an email list for Chat People to interact without being on at the sAM)e time. We also send a daily message to the list that points to all of the HR Chats since mid July. Write to be added to the list: -- stan@communitymagic.org ==========================
From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (11:08 AM) good morning Shelly
From: Sharon Truax (11:08 AM) @Shelly Good Morning.
From: Shannon McArthur (11:09 AM) We meet EVERY DAY, Shelly!! of HR, anyway
From: Sally Okoniewski (11:11 AM) Please - don’t keep referencing the fear and not-great outcome … let’s FOCUS on envisioning a highest outcome only. We know it might not be Biden, but let’s not bring that energy in here Report facts, of course. I don’t mean to wash the information
From: Jen Forti (11:16 AM) HAHAHA!!!!!
From: jay Kauffman (11:19 AM) where is Charles Eisenstein?
From: Richard Buckley (11:20 AM) Charles is with us.
From: jay Kauffman (11:21 AM) he and Vandana are on next?
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:22 AM) Thank you Shelly for the overview!
From: Jen Forti (11:22 AM) Thank you so much Shelly <3
From: Sharon Truax (11:22 AM) Thank you Shelly.
From: shelly alcorn (11:22 AM) Thanks everyone please enjoy the rest of the progrAM) :D
From: Shannon McArthur (11:22 AM) You too, Shelly!
From: Hilary Van Welter (11:22 AM) Thank you Shelly for setting a context.
From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (11:23 AM) @Shelly - thanks for the 5 positives!!
From: Sharon Truax (11:24 AM) Welcome Charles and Vandana. Your Good works abound.
From: Barbro Esbjörnsdotter (11:24 AM) Thank You Vandana for that!
From: jas dale (11:25 AM) Question the frAM)ing indeed, thank you!!!
From: Sally Okoniewski (11:25 AM) Yes Charles! Ging deeper
From: Jane (11:26 AM) The real power lies within.
From: Barbro Esbjörnsdotter (11:26 AM) Very true analogy!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:26 AM) I love you, Charles… clearly seen, imho
From: Sharon Truax (11:26 AM) @charles exactly.
From: Shannon McArthur (11:27 AM) seeing Trump and Biden as mascots puts them in a healthy light. healthy? well, maybe not so much
From: jay Kauffman (11:28 AM) good analogy
From: kparkhill (11:28 AM) This makes so much sense, mascots!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:28 AM) but less powerful than what they’ve enjoyed.
From: Jen Broyles (11:28 AM) He is spot on. I love hearing his perspective and he speaks so eloquently, truthfully, and articulately.
From: Cindy Bledsoe (11:28 AM) “There’s no such thing as higher or lower consciousness. That’s a coded part of the story of separation. There’s only what you are conscious of.” - Charles
From: Giedre Kleivaite (11:28 AM) absolutely agree with you Charles !!!!!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:28 AM) yes
From: Sally Okoniewski (11:29 AM) Yes!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:29 AM) It’s the systems, not the people. It’s the beliefs not the people. The shift needed is major and way beyond one administration - even at 8 years.
From: Suzanne Marie (11:29 AM) so true, Charles
From: Richard Page (11:31 AM) Jerry Mander, founder of IFG
From: Kip AdAM)s (11:32 AM) From: Lancaster PA: Pins and needles today. Prayers and Peace for the days and,week(s) after.
From: Me (11:33 AM) About the Crisis of DEMOCRACY, LAW, Money and the Environment: The Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund (CELDF) is building a movement for Community Rights and the Rights of Nature to advance democratic, economic, social, and environmental rights – building upward From: the grassroots to the state, federal, and international level. https://celdf.org/ CELDEF published a book that reveals the most important environmental and legal blockages to democracy and the rights of communities and nature by Ben G. Price "How Wealth Rules the World" It describes how the U.S. Supreme Court has been and still is a choir for the Theology of Property.
From: Richard Page (11:33 AM) “negative exclusivist identities…"
From: jay Kauffman (11:34 AM) preach!
From: RUthe Schoder-Ehri (11:36 AM) Thank you Charles and Vandana for bringing our focus to our global imprisonment, the "diversion" of hate and fear -- and our essential unity!
From: Suzanne Marie (11:36 AM) Thank you @Stan for that info
From: Richard Page (11:36 AM) Re Theology of Property, listen to E.F. Schumacher annual lecture by George Monbiot on the need to control land distribution in order to rectify wealth inequities
From: Sharon Truax (11:36 AM) @Vandana Brilliant assessment. .
From: RUthe Schoder-Ehri (11:39 AM) fabulous offering!
From: Barbro Esbjörnsdotter (11:39 AM) Yes, what other economies do we want?
From: Shannon McArthur (11:40 AM) Ruthe!! Hello Love!
From: Sally Okoniewski (11:44 AM) The artificial split! Yes - there is a MIDDLE way that incorprates unity
From: Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson (11:44 AM) One of my concerns about the conversation is that it may ultimately lead to what I call “analysis paralysis”. This is not a time for such a paralysis. As an African AM)erican, my sense is this is a time for action. In my view, we confuse the distinction between authority and power. Authority is something that is delegated; Power is something that is demonstrated.
From: Sally Okoniewski (11:46 AM) Yes Charles - the desire/need fo REAL democracy… this is a transformation of epic proportions; let’s be ready to move the process forward for the next decade <3
From: Barbro Esbjörnsdotter (11:46 AM) yes Charles!!!
From: Rachel Root (11:46 AM) Very well said!! We need to focus on the truth
From: Sharon Truax (11:46 AM) What happened to freedom of choice?
From: Peg Kuperman (11:47 AM) Yes, exactly Charles…most often the choice of the lesser of two evils
From: jas dale (11:48 AM) Democracy in UK in further disarray with powers being exercised in nAM)e of pandemic, former chief justice update https://resources.law.cAM).ac.uk/privatelaw/Freshfields_Lecture_2020_Government_by_Decree.pdf
From: Rachel Root (11:48 AM) Agree
From: Kip AdAM)s (11:49 AM) The Supreme Court matters who's in the White House (and the Senate From: Linda Kwan (11:49 AM) Yes!!!
From: Cindy Bledsoe (11:49 AM) What do we do with our unprecedented power that is good? Post DJT his supporters still exist. We can choose to integrate these disenfranchised voices in an act of trust, love, and true cocreation for a more conscious evolution, inverting the process organically, so that it follows the people.
From: Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson (11:49 AM) The person in the White House, however, does set a tone. So, it’s not irrelevant.
From: Linda Kwan (11:50 AM) @cindy that's beautiful!
From: Sally Okoniewski (11:50 AM) I disagree whittle word/process “integrate” “others” - we need to create a COMPLETELY new paradigm. The “left (which I appear to be aligned with) is NOT the “end all"
From: Cindy Bledsoe (11:50 AM) Thank you, Linda.
From: Kip AdAM)s (11:51 AM) YES Jim
From: Shannon McArthur (11:51 AM) a mascot is exactly for that purpose, Cuf… ;0
From: Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson (11:51 AM) Thank you, Jim, for your perspective. It does matter who sits in the White House.
From: Cindy Bledsoe (11:51 AM) @Sally this is all about cocreating the NEW in my perspective
From: Jane (11:52 AM) Great questions Jim?
From: Sally Okoniewski (11:52 AM) @Cindy - yes it is co-create the new… but it is not up to “us” to “absorb/transform” the current administration supporters… so I want to be very clear that we need a quantum shift
From: jas dale (11:52 AM) The Paris Accord is basically a corporate raft of policies to perpetuate extracting resources by a sleight of hand than reduces every living activity to carbon accounting: the story of separation
From: Anne-Marie Goncalves Desai (11:52 AM) I agree Jim, individual choices also matter and there is much work to do to change the institutions that are corrupting the world
From: Shannon McArthur (11:53 AM) EVERY individual matters. EVERY opinion matters… even if it is not communicated. What we put into the field grows. But it is through communication that we create the Power of People… Time for POP to rule.
From: Shannon McArthur (11:54 AM) we have the technology… do we have the will?
From: Sally Okoniewski (11:54 AM) Our constitution needs to be SERIOUSLY AM)ended to update our guidance dicument to reflect a new knowing… I have been active in the past in the move to AM)end to eliminate the power of money and corporations, for instance...
From: Jane (11:54 AM) Yes Shannon!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:55 AM) the United Nations have a purpose… the economy is the flow of resources…
From: Kip AdAM)s (11:57 AM) Berniecrats have infiltrated the DEM Party. Biden wins and we're on him
From: Meg Newhouse (11:57 AM) I’m wondering about the potential power of the people who are showing up on Humanity Rising, mostly younger generations, who have an entirely different vision that can dismantle the current system.
From: Cindy Bledsoe (11:57 AM) @Sally How can we evolve without interconnectedness? No intent to “transform” as that is separation.
From: Sally Okoniewski (11:58 AM) I agree Vandana - there is a business/finanace/wealth-seeking basis for ruling… this is now so much more apparent to more people… we are watching the Fall… and we with the grass roots are called to rise
From: Richard Page (11:58 AM) “Magnetic force polarizes the quanta” like unrecognized shadow accentuates division and othering…
From: Barbro Esbjörnsdotter (11:58 AM) yes everyone! all her beings.
From: RUthe Schoder-Ehri (11:58 AM) YES! EARTH democracy!!
From: Sharon Truax (11:58 AM) @Vandana Expansive View. Beautiful.
From: RUthe Schoder-Ehri (11:58 AM) our gem From: today, I AM) so grateful
From: Shannon McArthur (11:58 AM) YES, Vandana
From: Anne-Marie Goncalves Desai (11:59 AM) beautifully said Vandana
From: Sally Okoniewski (11:59 AM) @Cindy - I might not be making my point well - YES, we MUST be interconnected! I AM) uncomfortable with teh idea that any “one group” has the answers… people talk about “us” “converting” “them”… I think WE need to CONNECT From: a “open mind"
From: Jenna Tontz (12:00 PM The only way that people can connect is with the healing of their minds.
From: Hilary Van Welter (12:00 PM Humanity and Earth Rising Together
From: Jenna Tontz (12:01 PM Trump is an incompetent human. He has been in 3500 lawsuits! 3500!!!!
From: Kip AdAM)s (12:01 PM Hitler a cult leader so is Trump Do not under estimate the cult of the personality
From: Ian Wight (12:01 PM Our collective project - Making a place we can all call home?
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:01 PM Charles - yes - the disaffected are looking for a hero
From: Shannon McArthur (12:02 PM @Ian, a home we WANT to call home…
From: Jen Forti (12:02 PM Rob Hopkins recently put out a book titled “From: What Is To What If”. I’m picking it up today and can’t wait to start “envisioning” a better world! https://www.robhopkins.net/2019/10/10/first-review-of-From: -what-is-to-what-if/
From: Shannon McArthur (12:02 PM @Jen, looks good!!
From: Ian Wight (12:02 PM Do we need a conviviality movement on a par with the sustainability movement??
From: Rachel Root (12:03 PM Sigh.... such a good conversation and so true!! it’s very discouraging
From: Shannon McArthur (12:03 PM yes, Ian, sounds good to me!
From: Jane (12:03 PM @Sally agree re; uncomfortable with the idea that any one group has all the answers...feels like too much polarization.
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:03 PM May I note - we are very clear about the assault on people off color, immigrants, etc… women are ALSO being repressed in a new way…
From: Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson (12:04 PM I don’t agree with you, Charles. It took a long time to set a tone for the civil rights laws. You have to start somewhere. To do nothing is to invite paralysis & just “analysis paralysis”
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:04 PM @Jane, yup
From: Ian Wight (12:04 PM Can we become artists of possibility? Each of us is an artist of our days.
From: Jane (12:04 PM Need to remain open to listening to all sides and employ critical thinking and inner wisdom,
From: Jenna Tontz (12:05 PM @Dr. Carroy I agree with you. Evolution is happening and it takes centuries.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:05 PM with bad mascots
From: Leo Jacoby (12:05 PM Earth Democracy Vandana Shiva (Google search https://www.yesmagazine.org/issue/democracy/2003/01/01/earth-democracy-an-interview-with-vandana-shiva Earth Democracy - an interview with Vandana Shiva - Jan 1, 2003 · Vandana Shiva is a physicist and an organic farmer, an instigator of India's historic “tree- ...
https://digitalcommons.law.buffalo.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1238&context=belj Vandana Shiva, Earth Democracy: Sustainability, Justice and Peace, 26 Buff. Envtl. L.J. 1 (2019). Available at: https://digitalcommons.law.buffalo.edu/belj/vol26/iss1/1
An article about a talk at Washington Univ: https://sustainability.wustl.edu/students-explore-earth-democracy-with-vandana-shiva/ Feb 26, 2019 — The talk, titled “Earth Democracy,” proposed an alternative worldview in which humans are embedded in the Earth FAM)ily...
A review: https://escholarship.org/content/qt1sn052vq/qt1sn052vq.pdf Review: Earth Democracy: Justice, Sustainability, and Peace Reviewed by Byron Anderson, Northern Illinois University,
From: Leo Jacoby (12:05 PM A helpful outline: https://earthlight.org/2002/essay47_democracy.html Earth democracy is based on local living democracy with local communities, organised on principles of inclusion and diversity and ecological and social ... Ten Principles of Justice, Sustainability and Peace: A supplement to EarthLight Magazine #47, Fall/Winter 2002/03
Video result for Earth Democracy Vandana Shiva
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePCqDOLUTvU 1:35:59 "Earth Democracy" with Vandana Shiva, PhD · Naropa University Jan 7, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gExROI6oig8 59:06 Earth Democracy: Peace with the Earth, Justice for All Yale Divinity School Apr 30, 2018
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:05 PM Yes Charles - there is a truth inside all these ideas… and a pathology… we need to “see differently"
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:06 PM Charles you are SO right! How I wish we could have these conversations with each other. The right would have NO power if there wasn’t some truth in what they say. the manipulation of that truth is the issue - how to shift that???
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:06 PM The puppet ideas - simplifying to make it a way to find a target
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:06 PM Yes Charles!
From: Ian Wight (12:06 PM Can we imagine an interpenetrative ‘we’ - where there is no ‘them’ and no ‘us’?
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:06 PM @Kathryn - agree
From: Shannon McArthur (12:07 PM @ian, we are ONE…
From: Kip AdAM)s (12:07 PM All forces domestic and foreign that separate need to be resisted
From: Anne-Marie Goncalves Desai (12:07 PM Really powerful Charles
From: Suzanne Marie (12:07 PM Yes, Charles ...you are so right on.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:07 PM @Charles - defining yourself by our hate - ouch!
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:08 PM Symptom of disintegration - agree Charles! - can we see this all as the necessary breakdown before breakthrough?
From: Me (12:08 PM It appears that the business model of the military Industrial complex is to sew discord and sell weapons.
From: Sharon Truax (12:08 PM So how do we navigate this? When the air and water are gone. Who wins? I watch the PNW being trashed. Our waters. We can't clean up fast enough. .
From: Marty Clemons (12:09 PM Humans must evolve the latent potential in our brains to be able to process the complexity of the 21st Century.
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:09 PM @Kip - if “what we resist persists”, we need not to resist, but to remove focus From: the conflict to a focus of What We Want
From: Ian Wight (12:09 PM What we-story might we want to tell to our collective future?
From: Jane (12:09 PM Well said Sally.
From: Marty Clemons (12:09 PM Agree @Sally
From: Diane Sue (12:11 PM @Jim That's such a critical question - what would true democracy look like?
From: Jenna Tontz (12:11 PM we don’t have a democracy, we have a plutocracy it seems.
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:11 PM This is an incredible session and incredible chat commentary - thank you all for your energy <3
From: Ian Wight (12:12 PM Our common task - to develop what passes for democracy, and to democratize what passes for development?
From: Me (12:12 PM CELDEF published a book that reveals the most important environmental and legal blockages to democracy and the rights of communities and nature by Ben G. Price "How Wealth Rules the World" It describes how the U.S. Supreme Court has been and still is a choir for the Theology of Property.
From: jay Kauffman (12:13 PM Yes....the economy is going behind their own self-built curtain
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:13 PM From: Vandana’s comments - is it that we need to Start Local - Start in our communities? Change starts at teh roots?
From: Anne-Marie Goncalves Desai (12:13 PM yes they are enslaving us
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:14 PM Yes, people are waking up to teh dysfunction at all levels
From: jay Kauffman (12:14 PM Cuomo has invited all 5 billionaires to NYC to run rAM)pant here.
From: jas dale (12:15 PM More guidance on how in our communities and work we can express humanity rising without creating more alienation/polarisation please.
From: Cindy Bledsoe (12:16 PM Once in a SynCon event, a conscious collaboration process, an LA gang member pointed to an idea generated by an elected person and said, “Wait. That’s what we want. That’s why we’re rioting.” When we circle around joining the unique genius in each of us, we can converge people who normally do not communicate, and encourage interconnectedness and oneness. Perhaps WE are the technology.
From: Ian Wight (12:16 PM Consider our collective Work as a pilgrimage of We-dentity (based on David Whyte’s ‘Crossing the Unknown Sea - Work as a Pilgrimage of Identity’ From: jay Kauffman (12:16 PM Preach!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:16 PM yes, we must start in our communities. It is in our communities we must grow our food and help each other heal.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:16 PM @Vandana - machines not as our measure - brilliant and very clear!
From: Rachel Root (12:16 PM Love it too!!
From: Suzanne Marie (12:16 PM Thank you Vedanta...yes, the rights of people AND rights of the Earth.
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:16 PM Wow Vandana
From: Sharon Truax (12:16 PM @Vandana YES!!!!!!!!!! perfect for the state of affairs here. thank you.
From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:16 PM @vandana - thanks for Earth Democracy -
From: Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson (12:16 PM Underlying the ideals of democracy is understanding the power of “yes” and “no”. Here’s a link to an article I wrote awhile ago regarding that power. https://www.academia.edu/20666564/The_Power_of_Yes_and_No_The_Relationship_to_Consciousness_Probable_Realities_and_E_motions_
From: Shannon McArthur (12:17 PM the local level is served by http://ourheartgardens.com so is the global I need help with the website and outreach welcome to come to after HR Chat to talk about it
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:18 PM @vandana - Resilient Values help make that shift to Earth Democracy real - love to talk!
From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:19 PM @Ian - yes to Our common task - to develop what passes for democracy, and to democratize what passes for development? sounds like @Vendana could contribute great insight to this?
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:19 PM Yes Charles - it is hard to question “authority” when it comes to health and honest discussion about drugs and vaccines
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:19 PM WE had an experience of that yesterday on Humanity Rising with Natalie…
From: Sharon Truax (12:20 PM @ Charles, it is a sick way of being.
From: David Stoney (12:20 PM Great question @Ian. How about a story about our common evolution on tough planet, our common responsibility to prevent uncontrolled global warming, our common appreciation of the sacred Oneness of this universe, and our co-creative responsibility to maximize human and planetary well-being as we transition to a thermostable world? David Stoney
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:20 PM @Charles - how do manage lies and false information and also all freedom of speech?
From: Shannon McArthur (12:21 PM growth happens on the fringes - the uncharted territory…
From: Kat Haber (12:21 PM Starts at local level soulfully, at ballot box, 150 year ago politics was local and the precinct captain canvassed the neighborhood to face constituents, connected in multiple dimensions, now use scaled up data driven systems of cAM)paigning without relationship(Dr. Al Gross running for Senate has been suing relational cAM)paigning) Social media has been hijacked to higher degree than before, reduced to digital interaction, risen to new height, not supposed to protest against lockdown because we can live virtually-food/meetings/dance parties every interaction surveilled/controlled vaccine skeptics texts are deleted governed by External power, freedom of assembly/speach to in the hands of corporations, can not distinguish between state and corporation interwoven, democracy requires that we validate what can not be converted into quantity, (QUALITY is not QUANTITY>) algorithms internet of things to rationally administer the entirety, nothing that can not be measured reductionism life to quantity,
From: Shannon McArthur (12:21 PM g’morn’ Kat! Thank you!
From: Jane (12:22 PM Yes Vanada...we must be vigilant when it comes to our over reliance on all facets of tech. and the power of tech./data .
From: Shannon McArthur (12:22 PM iff we turn away From: what ‘they’ want us to put our energy to… and turn toward growing things together...
From: Me (12:22 PM @Charles - come to our face to face group (zoom to zoom) after this episode... If you can't come today come another time,,,
From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:23 PM @Charles - technologies of heart coherence?
From: Anne-Marie Goncalves Desai (12:23 PM brilliant Charles
From: Kat Haber (12:23 PM Economics happiness of utility to money, Democracy is a reclAM)ation of humanity rising reclaim the relational, back into relationship into the things that are not mediated by digits, something of this striving is visible through it, Tech of quantity is meant to be a tool AM)ong many other tools, tech of relationship/life/plants/water/sacred/elements?indigenous wisdom?
From: Ian Wight (12:23 PM Can we see our selves as persons, rather than as individuals? Persons in the whole-making business…
From: Jane (12:23 PM Love the technologies of LIFE.
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:23 PM @Cuf - downloaded - will read - thanks
From: Me (12:23 PM . ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541 . ..oOo..
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:24 PM @Stanley - great idea - I can not stay on, but please include me if there are any communications From: it “sally.okoniewski@gmail.com”
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:24 PM @Jane - YES!
From: Me (12:25 PM Ok, Sally. We meet each day and send s video of our meeting.
From: Jane (12:25 PM @Stanley...would love to join you in the after chat, but have to leave after the HR session.
From: Meg Newhouse (12:25 PM Agreed; brilliant and inspiring. Somehow I wanted to hear heart as part of the solution. Oh, Jim is saying that.
From: Rachel Root (12:26 PM Outstanding conversation thank you!
From: Kat Haber (12:26 PM JG: democracy in our time must be EARTH DEMOCRACY underlying all our beliefs/ideologies/narratives/mythologies who we think we are, science world view for centuries that EARTH is meaningless, we treat each other in this spirit, reclaiming of humanity rising stories we tell ourselves, embrace story that we ARE EARTH>>>>yes, we reflect the nature of nature to nature naturally!
From: Anne Baring (12:26 PM What you are saying, Jim, is of supreme importance. Thank you, thank you.
From: Sharon Truax (12:26 PM @charles @jim This is Truth. We are Earth.
From: Hilary Van Welter (12:26 PM If you take the h From: the end of earth and put it in front you get heart
From: Me (12:26 PM @Vandana - please visit us, even just briefly after this session...
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:27 PM @Hilary - _/\_ @Jim - yes, so sad
From: Shannon McArthur (12:27 PM Aho
From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:27 PM @hilary - beautiful unentangled logos earth/heart
From: Sharon Truax (12:27 PM Thank you all for taking us beyond. Glorious.
From: Kat Haber (12:27 PM Thank you so very much for a broad and beautiful discussion of what this moment might mean to each of us! @Vandana @Charles @Jim
From: Sally Okoniewski (12:27 PM THANK YOU ALL
From: Shalahnia Riversong (12:27 PM so what has been coming to my mind is being articulately manifest here this morning I AM) Grateful ~ reclAM)ation of qualitative relationship Earth and all she is/we are in the circle of Life/
From: Jen Forti (12:27 PM THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH <3
From: Monica Affleck (12:28 PM a deep thank you to Charles, Vandana and Jim
From: Shannon McArthur (12:28 PM Shalahnia!!
From: Jane (12:28 PM Huge Gratitude Charles,Vandana for your wisdom.
From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:28 PM @Jim @Charles @Vandana - you are such brilliant voices for Earth - thank you
From: Shannon McArthur (12:28 PM How lovely to see you here!
From: jay Kauffman (12:28 PM Thanks for the conversation. Very important. What a relief to hear some sanity on Election Day in the US
From: Anne Baring (12:28 PM This had been wonderful, Thank you all so much.
From: Kat Haber (12:28 PM Charles: filtered through SIDEDENESS relax these categories and view From: an outside perspective way of holding us
From: Diane Sue (12:28 PM What an incredible conversation. In gratitude....
From: Jane (12:28 PM Jim...as always Gold Star!
From: Richard Page (12:28 PM a real Dust Up!
From: Shalahnia Riversong (12:28 PM Thanks for all holding this this morning!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:29 PM Thank All!
From: Anne-Marie Goncalves Desai (12:29 PM thank you Jim, Vandana and Charles, it was truly heart warming and inspiring
From: Shannon McArthur (12:29 PM Come to Chat!!
From: Me (12:29 PM . ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541 . ..oOo..
From: Kat Haber (12:29 PM Vandana: Yes we are EARTH, what can we do? Care/love-no uselessness then a living economy emerges-ECONOMOLOGY Economy that respects ecology
From: Sharon Truax (12:29 PM Thank you Vandana! I'm re-fired!
From: Jane (12:30 PM Thanks to all and your feedback.
From: Annelies Weijschede (12:30 PM Bis Bis… Thank you, we are Earth!! PS Enlivenment by Andreas Weber aligns with Earth Democracy - (Seeing all beings in a common household of matter, desire, and imagination, an economy of metabolic and economic transformation, is “enlivenment.” Love being a warrior of live for the Human Spirit (Margaret Wheatley) and Earth!
From: Kurt Krueger (12:30 PM Love and prayers for you all. :) CU soon. Love. Kurt
From: Jane (12:31 PM Back at you Kurt.