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Humanity Rising Day 098 Chat Page
- Date: Friday September 18,2020 (2020-09-18)
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From: Paul Coleman (11:03 AM) Hola AM)igo's From: Aysen, Patagonian Chile
From: moto g(7) power (11:04 AM) Hola Paul <3
From: Anne-Marie Goncalves Desai (11:04 AM) Hi Paul : From: moto g(7) power (11:04 AM) I don't see Sabinije
From: Julian Wong (11:04 AM) Happy Friday From: San Jose, California!
From: Paul Coleman (11:04 AM) An open invitation to humanity rising and all the people we've come to know these last few months. Please consider joining us for our Peace Day celebrations on September 21st. Contact me at paulandkonomisgarden@gmail.com and I will send you the zoom details so you can interact with us as the day proceeds. Guests include the Pied Piper of HAM)elin, the official representative of that German city, the Walking Treeman, the Toki Rapanui (Easter island) School of Music and Culture - beautiful children with music and messages of peace in the indigenous language - musicians From: around the world and activities such as tree plantings, children building a dome of alternative construction techniques and an Earth Jump which will herald the start of a Peace/tree planting walk around the island of Okinawa and more. @ Kathryn Alexander, you can see the tree we planted for you here. https://www.facebook.com/paulandkonomisgarden/posts/687633555182790
From: Maureen Edwardson (11:06 AM) Only Jim's nAM)e with cAM)era off is on screen!!
From: Jen Forti (11:06 AM) Blessings From: Portland, OR where it rained a bit last night!
From: Crystal (11:06 AM) Yes, only Jim’s nAM)e is visible
From: Kate Hansen Hansen (11:06 AM) Cannot see the speaker
From: moto g(7) power (11:06 AM) @Jen, I have been sending you some of the rain From: here. <3
From: Rachel Root (11:07 AM) I cannot see the speaker
From: Crystal (11:07 AM) Thank you!
From: Kate Hansen Hansen (11:07 AM) Thank you!
From: Jen Forti (11:08 AM) Thank you @Moto <3
From: Crystal (11:11 AM) what is the music you played? So beautiful!
From: moto g(7) power (11:11 AM) I prefer this song to our coherence minute
From: Me (11:12 AM) . ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541 ========================== . ..oOo..
From: Kate Hansen Hansen (11:17 AM) What is this poem? Gorgeous!
From: Jenna Tontz (11:18 AM) I love love love the way Kim reads poetry!
From: Beebe Frazer (11:19 AM) Knowing Kim, she may be reciting rather than reading!
From: Kurt Krueger (11:19 AM) Thanks you, exquisite. Have a magical Rosh Hashanah everyone. : From: Suzanne Marie (11:19 AM) Powerful...love it. Grateful
From: Jenna Tontz (11:19 AM) she’s AM)azing
From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (11:19 AM) Bliss and Thanks Kim - poetry is heaven
From: moto g(7) power (11:19 AM) Lovely to have you back Riane!
From: Kim Rosen (11:21 AM) “Song” by Deena Metzger; “Litany for Survival” by Audre Lorde (excerpt); “I have faith in all that is not yet spoken” by Rainer Maria Rilke (translated by Kim Rosen and friends From: Kim Rosen (11:21 AM) Music: “The Important of Image” From: “Grab a Hunk of Lightning” by JAM)i Sieber: “Invitation” From: “Timeless” by JAM)i Sieber
From: Jen Forti (11:25 AM) The concept of “new language” and a “new narrative” has been mentioned so much and I’d really love to hear some exAM)ples of what this new “language” and “narrative” sounds like!
From: Jenna Tontz (11:25 AM) me too Jen
From: Jen Forti (11:25 AM) Maybe an entire day/panel specifically on what this sounds like
From: franka (11:26 AM) brilliant Wikipedia entry on Riane https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riane_Eisler?wprov=sfti1
From: Paul Coleman (11:26 AM) @Sabine Thank you. Will send the details tomorrow.
From: Kala Perkins (11:27 AM) Really important awareness of what is happening against women in global human rights now in the US: https://action.momsrising.org/sign/Shut-Down-Irwin/?t=25&akid=14325%2E2670079%2Eyx4VIa
From: Jenna Tontz (11:27 AM) here we go Jen Forti
From: Jen Forti (11:27 AM) Yay, thank you Riane!!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:27 AM) Good morning, All - just noticed I was talking only to the Panel once again… Remember to change To to include attendees too. Thanks!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:29 AM) New Story book - Rutger Bregman - Human Kind
From: Paul Coleman (11:32 AM) @Shannon I'm always doing that too!
From: Kurt Krueger (11:32 AM) What is the New books nAM)e?
From: Kala Perkins (11:32 AM) It is intriguing to remember humanity as a recent emergent species in Earth- only 3seconds ago in Earth time
From: Diane Skidmore (11:33 AM) Nurturing Our Humanity: How Domination and Partnership Shape Our Brains, Lives, and Future by Riane Eisler
From: Shannon McArthur (11:33 AM) @Paul - the best way to rise to an error is to share the learning thanks!
From: Me (11:33 AM) The new story might start with how women work out the difficult issue of the legality of abortion AM)ong themselves, without including men in the conversation. Men use this issue to increase their stature and wealth. This is wrong. Men should not benefit From: controlling the conversation about abortion.
From: Shannon McArthur (11:34 AM) oh Stan, yes! ty
From: Julian Wong (11:34 AM) Our current language is so littered with (artificially) binary concepts..e.g. patriarchy vs. matriarchy
From: Kala Perkins (11:35 AM) Australia Aboriginal society women and men were equal; each had their own businesses /domains which was taboo for the other to trespass in mutual respect
From: Kurt Krueger (11:36 AM) Will your new book come out in spoken word soon?
From: Mary Olson (11:40 AM) I also heard that men invented writing...and limited teaching of it as a means to control and dominate society in a new way... could explain gendered differences in facility with verbal v written word.
From: Kala Perkins (11:41 AM) Beautifully frAM)ed Jim!
From: Bob Harbort (11:42 AM) I agree, Julian Wong. We can work to speak while minimizing their use.
From: Kurt Krueger (11:43 AM) Is this something that you think will work more in our advancing our new Society based on BEING Inclusive ~ Let’s Release the Separation Demon. Let’s bring inclusive words to life in our words. Inclusive pronouns and comments have something that exclusive pronouns don’t. Inclusive includes oneself, and “others.” We are all contained on one planet, and what “others” do or don’t do can drAM)atically affect us. So, when we use an inclusive affirmation it would sound like, “We are happy,” “We are Healthy,” “We are holy.” Or Inclusive Afformations®, “Why are we so happy, healthy, and holy?”
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:43 AM) I do think that each of the Value Sets are a narrative - a story about how power is to be expressed.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:46 AM) the story for the need for protection the story for the need to be effective and now the story for the reintegration of humanity with nature.
From: Julian Wong (11:49 AM) did anyone catch what Riane's 4 "Cornerstones" are? childhood, gender, language...?
From: moto g(7) power (11:49 AM) education?
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:50 AM) I’d add values….
From: AM)Y A BLUMENSHINE (11:51 AM) FAM)ily & Social Structure, Gender Roles & Relations, Economic & Social Relations, and Narratives & Language https://centerforpartnership.org/featured/the-four-cornerstones-of-partnership-systems-focusing-our-energies-for-a-better-world/
From: Shannon McArthur (11:51 AM) Thank you AM)y
From: Julian Wong (11:51 AM) Thanks, AM)Y!
From: Bob Harbort (11:51 AM)
- All* communication is in essence the expression of power -- and ego. We need to recognize that as the substrate and work to get beyond letting it devolve into a situation where the power is the point. But what I'm getting at is that without recognizing that the substrate is there we can't hope to communicate effectively.
From: Kala Perkins (11:52 AM) Unfortunately the sale and slavery of women and children us globally the second most economically dominant field to the military industrial complex; parallel to the pharmeucitical
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:53 AM) @Kala WOW
From: Kala Perkins (11:53 AM) pharmaceutical
From: Paul Coleman (11:56 AM) Maybe the Domi Nations are going to go the wa of Domino Nations and they will all fall down.
From: AM)Y A BLUMENSHINE (11:56 AM) @Paul Fun word play!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:56 AM) @Paul, lovely play on words!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:57 AM) Domination is fear based (Protection) That is the key - reducing fear - and them we find we are at the
From: AM)Y A BLUMENSHINE (11:57 AM) There’s your dominoes, Paul, the ice sheets melting…
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:57 AM) end of the world as we have known it) how to remove fear in such circumstances?
From: Paul Coleman (11:57 AM) Positive action today, tomorrow and everyday has t be the story of the future
From: Julian Wong (11:57 AM) Domination runs deep in our culture - think of parenting and school cultures? hierarchy abound! much unlearning to do!
From: Kala Perkins (11:58 AM) There are billboards in the norther mid-US that have images of a drill penetrating into a woman’s body as advertisements promoting fracking for oil😢
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:59 AM) @Kala - NOOOOOOO
From: AM)Y A BLUMENSHINE (11:59 AM) @Kathryn Expect a better world and be curious about it. I wonder what will happen next? with positive expectation instead of anxiety
From: Kurt Krueger (11:59 AM) Paul : From: Shannon McArthur (11:59 AM) Kala, how does that promote it? Seems to show vividly what we’re doing by fracking.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:59 AM) @AM)y - you are right - curiosity!
From: Kurt Krueger (12:00 PM YES. BIG Changes are caused by small steps Every little bit/step/learning breeds AM)azing results! Depending on your choices. Choose wisely - leave an honorable legacy. This video comes From: the PPT that we present worldwide in our Peak Performance Practices progrAM)s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y97rBdSYbkg&t=6s
From: Shannon McArthur (12:00 PM curiosity and imagination - those are the tools of the future we desire.
From: moto g(7) power (12:00 PM @Kala, this would be a cause for legal action, wouldn't it?
From: Kala Perkins (12:00 PM Yes, AM)y we must have more positive will to change than disillusionment but we must be really awake and see
From: Paul Coleman (12:00 PM Everything we do has to be to the benefit of all life on Earth. What we buy, how we travel, how we live our lives.
From: AM)Y A BLUMENSHINE (12:01 PM We help each other be Woke!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:01 PM @Paul - yes
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:02 PM Republicans in the US confuse destruction for change.
From: Paul Coleman (12:03 PM If we can pay people to destroy forests, we can par to create forests.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:03 PM “unpack it and then leave it behind”…
From: Kala Perkins (12:03 PM The Native people who’s land is being fracked are protesting it and across the world there are those protesting fracking but it is going on with this culture; poisoned water was dumped on school grounds From: fracking in downtown LA; the local people create legal cases but we all must be aware of these things because it is connected to the social poverty and domination culture
From: Rachel Root (12:05 PM Excellent point!!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:05 PM “why the recalcitrance of political change?”
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:06 PM Populist politics are indicative of the fear that comes with responsibility - under and authoritarian culture no one is responsible except the ‘leader’ if we change then WE become responsible and THAT is the fear!
From: moto g(7) power (12:07 PM @Kathryn, good point
From: Shannon McArthur (12:07 PM but we are responsible… cannot escape that.
From: Kate Hansen Hansen (12:07 PM Weapons of mass distraction - Brilliant!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:08 PM @Shannon oh yes we can - you just pretend that you ‘don’t understand’ that obedience makes you not responsible - we have many ways of hiding that responsibility.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:09 PM Hide From: it as we try… the fact remains, doesn’t it? “We” keep trying to offload that responsibility.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:10 PM The lack of responsibility is the seduction for the dominator model.
From: Me (12:10 PM One of the paintings shown yesterday had a form very much like donut economics.
From: moto g(7) power (12:10 PM It's about the courage to adopt and use consciously and purposefully the new language. We know that words create our reality; it is about the implementation of that knowledge for a change.
From: Kala Perkins (12:10 PM This is such an important and core conversation ♥️
From: Shannon McArthur (12:11 PM Nurture Nature and She will nurture You.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:11 PM @Shannon - nice
From: Rachel Root (12:12 PM With caring as a guide we move into a very different pattern of awareness.
From: moto g(7) power (12:12 PM @Rachel, yes
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:13 PM @Rachel - yes - the Resilient Values Set!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:13 PM It all starts with our birthing system
From: Crystal (12:13 PM Could partnering Riane’s ideas with Doughnut Economics help us move forward more quickly?
From: Shannon McArthur (12:13 PM yes
From: Kala Perkins (12:13 PM “We don’t have time not to love”.. From: our poem today
From: moto g(7) power (12:14 PM And men are deprived as well in the caring aspect
From: Crystal (12:15 PM Do we need to wait a generation to develop different brains to transition . . . so we need to focus our energy and resources on the coming generation? The babies being born during the pandemic?
From: AM)Y A BLUMENSHINE (12:15 PM See the work reinforcing our caring capacity by Dacher Keltner
From: Cheryl Ritenbaugh (12:16 PM This fits in with Lakoff’s work on authoritarian and nurturing fAM)ilies in relation to US politics…
From: AM)Y A BLUMENSHINE (12:16 PM https://greatergood.berkeley.edu
From: Paul Coleman (12:16 PM Humanity has a tendency to see things in terms of the world, rather the planet.
From: moto g(7) power (12:16 PM @AM)y, yes, he/they do great work
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:16 PM Join me tonight at 6 pm PDT to discuss how our values impact our behavior. Join Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/83786152870?pwd=RUdNL09NWWo3U1J4AM)ErdlZISW9WUT09 Meeting ID: 837 8615 2870 Passcode: 652177
From: AM)Y A BLUMENSHINE (12:16 PM Greater Good Science Center https://ggsc.berkeley.edu/?_ga=2.118718220.409306254.1600445631-969149422.1551722508
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:17 PM @AM)y - yes they are great! I miss the magazine
From: Rachel Root (12:17 PM We transform others by first transforming ourselves.
From: Jenna Tontz (12:17 PM it’s funny that your mind constructs the dictatorship as the solution Jim. haha
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:18 PM Let’s start with birthing without violence Fredric Leboyer…then focus on the first five years of raising children with a focus on Mother Earth
From: moto g(7) power (12:18 PM @Jenna, : From: Kala Perkins (12:19 PM Doreen, so true and important!
From: Annette Shaked (12:19 PM said with great gentleness & appreciation for intention -- "dictator for a day" has as domination quality
From: Maureen Edwardson (12:19 PM The feminine principle
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:19 PM Bridge to partnership…
From: Shannon McArthur (12:20 PM Riane, such deep wisdom. Bless you for being here… for being Human and, all in all, thank you for being.
From: shawne mitchell (12:21 PM it doesn't hurt that those northern european nations have extraordinary oil wealth.
From: Me (12:21 PM Caring is important... I would like to see a world where no one dies From: neglect or From: malice...
From: Jenna Tontz (12:21 PM Just bought The Chalice and The Blade. I want to integrate all of this deeper into embodiment.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:21 PM me too @Stan
From: Paul Coleman (12:22 PM Imagine a world of gardeners. People gardening, cultivating their own food, too busy listening to the birds, connecting to nature, sowing, harvestings, watering, caring, nurturing and feasting, loving, to go to war.
From: Annette Shaked (12:22 PM QUESTION _ Has anyone figured out if comments can be accessed/seen on Ubiquity site or elsewhere, my internet dropped and I lost the chat
From: Me (12:23 PM . ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541 ========================== . ..oOo..
From: Anne-Marie Goncalves Desai (12:23 PM Thank you Riane for your precious wisdom and insights
From: moto g(7) power (12:23 PM Thank you Riane!
From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:23 PM Thank you Riane for your CARE for humanity.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:23 PM @Annette, come to Chat & we’ll help!
From: Rachel Root (12:23 PM Thank you so much!! This dialogue was fantastic!!
From: Jenna Tontz (12:23 PM thank you Riane you’re AM)azing
From: Kala Perkins (12:23 PM So sane! Thank you!
From: AM)Y A BLUMENSHINE (12:23 PM @Paul A friend of mine started the Old Gardening Party, a political alternative!
From: Paul Coleman (12:23 PM Riane: Wonderful. Thank you!
From: Crystal (12:23 PM Grateful for community to share the election with . . .
From: moto g(7) power (12:23 PM @Riane, please let us know your website again.
From: AM)Y A BLUMENSHINE (12:24 PM https://centerforpartnership.org
From: Anne-Marie Goncalves Desai (12:24 PM yes World Treasure :) From: moto g(7) power (12:24 PM Thank you AM)y!
From: Kala Perkins (12:25 PM When the Lightbif the world was Subdued our Songs CAM)e Through
From: Me (12:25 PM @Annette - I publish the chat each day to an email list that I run for the Chat People, write me to be added: Stan@communitymagic.org
From: Jim Garrison (12:25 PM Sept 20, here is a special occasion. There are three possible times: https://pejdaevent.dAM)anhur.org/ That’s the link to a special Equinox meditation with Esperide Ananas.
From: Crystal (12:26 PM Yay Joy! Wonderful poet. “Letter to the Twenty First Century” brings me to tears . . .
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:26 PM Yes - Malini Rejenderan is also holding a 24 meditation at that time time as are many others - day of world peace.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:27 PM Thank you kim
From: Jenna Tontz (12:27 PM Kim!! so rich
From: Kim Rosen (12:27 PM “Fire” by Joy Harjo
From: Carol Lucis (12:28 PM Thank you Riane Thankyou KIm
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:28 PM @Jim can we get a link to that?
From: ChangJi (DDMBA) (12:29 PM who was the author to the Letter to the Twenty First Century?
From: Paul Coleman (12:29 PM Thanks Kim, Rian and Jim for another great couple of hours at Humanity Rising.
From: Kala Perkins (12:29 PM L’Shana Tovah! Nice that Jewish New Year falls in Universal Peace Day this year
From: Crystal (12:29 PM Joy Harjo authored the poem, Letter to the Twenty First Century
From: ChangJi (DDMBA) (12:30 PM thank you @Crystal!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:30 PM YAY!! As it must be!
From: Crystal (12:30 PM Most welcome - let me know what you think . . .
From: moto g(7) power (12:31 PM global mobilization
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:31 PM We need to partner with each other AND with nature!
From: Richard Buckley (12:31 PM Click the three dots in lower right to save chat
From: Jenna Tontz (12:31 PM totally @kathryn
From: Shannon McArthur (12:32 PM Richard, it doesn’t work
From: Me (12:32 PM Richard... THERE ARE NO THREE DOTS
From: Shannon McArthur (12:32 PM it says ‘Merge to meeting window”
From: Me (12:32 PM THAT FEATURE HAS BEEN OFF ALL ALONG
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:32 PM There are no three dots on webinars
From: Kurt Krueger (12:33 PM Not on our screens
From: Richard Buckley (12:33 PM We put the chat in the universe look for Day 98 posted in about six-eight hours. ubiverse
From: Astrid Stahlberg (12:33 PM I want to follow…… Thank you…
From: Jenna Tontz (12:33 PM Kim it really is
From: Kat Haber (12:33 PM We belong to each other. Beyond a bounty beautiful humans. We are humaning well. Gracious gratitudes to Kim, Jim, Riane, Sabinya.
From: Astrid Stahlberg (12:33 PM I will follow...
From: moto g(7) power (12:33 PM Have a lovely weekend <3
From: Kim Rosen (12:33 PM Thank you all for your deep listening
From: Shannon McArthur (12:33 PM Jim, you are Beauty incarnate. She, below, loves you.
From: Kurt Krueger (12:33 PM See this, 1 minutes: about his last statemsnt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y97rBdSYbkg&t=6s
