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Text of the Zoom Chat from HR Day 069:


From: Liliane Mavridara (11:04 AM) Happy Wednesday Everyone!

From: kparkhill (11:04 AM) Good morning all you beautiful people!

From: Michelle Kidd (11:06 AM) Hello Everyone, it's been a Fascinating week. I have So Enjoyed listening to you All. Michelle 💓

From: gary wohlman (11:09 AM) Wonderful to feel the momentum to make a world of difference TOGETHER building AM)ong us all…

From: Diane Skidmore (11:09 AM) Hello for Today. Love to Everybody - off we go again. Yaaaay xxx

From: Kala Perkins (11:10 AM) Dear Jim, it is Not All of the US;?our major political leaders From: ondd Ed party now in power, but there ARE still a lot of us just like yourself, who are visionaries and support real futures for bioethics, ecology and transformative change!! we have to shift the dynAM)ics but we ARE here, as you know. please don’t say all of the US; yes it is that hour,and we are stalking it🙏

From: Jim Garrison (11:10 AM) So good to see all of you every day. Love your enthusiasm and support.

From: gary wohlman (11:10 AM) Hip HIP HOORAY, together we are making a NEW DAY

From: Kat Haber (11:11 AM) JG: The choice is ours forward, or not? EM: new economics moving forward, even in Costa Rica, known for protecting nature, society pressure on government may not permit falling back, but surely Government is pressing to squeeze in the spaces-metal mining and oil drilling have beenprohibited for 25 years, now all must move beyond pioneer people, unstoppable, many rethinking value structures, gratitude for school teachers, when homeschooling kids, his returned to school in place today, 7 hours of educating kids, new appreciation, farmers now delivering food at no additional costs, solidarity of helping each other,

From: Jim Garrison (11:11 AM) Gary will be joining the session on August 4 everyone. Don’t miss it!

From: Diane Skidmore (11:11 AM) And - a NEW WAY!! We're certainly working on it - together - doing our best, I'm sure.

From: Lydia Davis (11:12 AM) the truth about biomass and biofuels – see documentary - Michael Moore presents Planet of the Humans on Youtube – directed by Jeff Gibbs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE

From: Kat Haber (11:12 AM) Jasper Kenter-University of York, valuing biodiversity! YAY, YAY, YAY!

From: Diane Skidmore (11:12 AM) Great start Edouard - a quick start xxx

From: gary wohlman (11:12 AM) I’ll be (t)here, for sure.

From: Diane Skidmore (11:12 AM) And Kat!!! Brilliant!! Notes as we go xxx Thank you xxx

From: Kat Haber (11:14 AM) JK: ecological economist, on strike in December 2019 sense headed for global economic crisis, began research proposal to build solid alternative, last crash alternatives were to diffuse with little rigorous economic base, this time…COVID, economic crisis for different reason, so need to accelerate the proposal for the global assessment for global economics @DIane, ha, ha, here we go…BIG PICTURE>>>

From: Diane Skidmore (11:14 AM) @Kat really laughing hahaha Ooops - no wish to argue but - we've seen enough inequality - now's the time to look at ways to equalise!!

From: Kat Haber (11:18 AM) JK: Layers upon layers of crises, inequality, climate, biodiversity, SO…New economic responses to thisregenrative, restorative, donut, social ecological, flourishing, wellbeing, Buen Vivir, Thriving, Decroissance, COmmon Good From: networks to collaborations, all diffuse bunch between north/south players/flavors

From: Kat Haber (11:22 AM) JK: all options are seen as heterodox, not mainstreAM), must become the new mainstreAM) AIM: credible rigorous response, broadly supported that can move to mainstreAM) that connects all these bottom, science, new cops leadership, unions, stakeholders, large scale, rapid, online, Xpert deliberative assessment, networks of networks

From: Diane Skidmore (11:22 AM) Hopefully these points (last slide) are what HR is covering

From: Kat Haber (11:27 AM) JK: address human dependence on nature and inequality emergency. Collaborative teAM), Xpert deliberation, 1000 Xperts, 150 coordinators, lead coordinators, 4 co chairs, similar to IPCC model to write Global Assessment Report for alternatives From: COVID, Use, DELPHI real time deliberation (@JK May I commence to you Trista Patterson?

From: Kat Haber (11:30 AM) JK: Wide range of topics, Xpert Deliberation process>>> solution sets multiples and change pathways evaluated against desirable outcomes previously established, spacial/temporal scales, avoiding watered down concnesus, rather consensus on various solutions and what is desired in different places

From: Kat Haber (11:32 AM) JK: solutions for multcriteria approach XAM)ple: Economic growth with enviro impacts-scrutinize which impacts, associations, evidence, SOLUTIONSLNChange preference tech decoupling, reduction of consumption/production, assess basic set of criteria

From: Me (11:33 AM) Is r3.0 engaged with this?
R3.0 – Redesign for Resilience and Regeneration
https://www.r3-0.org/

From: Kat Haber (11:33 AM) JK: stage 2 Global Public dialogue-Validate/activate GANE Xpert assessment outcomes, dialogue of dialogues, sub global/national dialogues devolved to speicif partners, close collaboration as COVID evolves, flexibility, design teAM),

From: Kat Haber (11:34 AM) JK: Outputs/impact activities: Reports, summaries for policy makers, Science Article, updated assessments, films, MOOCS< webinars…

From: Kurt Krueger (11:34 AM) How does MOOC help us be change influencers?

From: Kat Haber (11:35 AM) Theory of change Direct influence, indirect influence, platform , building systems of change and empowering change makers on the ground with rigorous knowledge base

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:36 AM) Please put contact into the chat

From: Kat Haber (11:36 AM) JK: ENGAGE, NOMINATE, GET INVOLVED! gane@york.ac.uk ?

From: Jasper Kenter (11:37 AM) gane@york.ac.uk york.ac.uk/new-economics Thanks everyone for listening, and please get in touch!

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (11:38 AM) @steve VCC - aha that's where I know you From: - my days in BC - knew you were fAM)iliar :- From: Kat Haber (11:39 AM) SW: critic in past, but what Jasper proposes is beyond borders, worked for 35 years in transformation (Nice Canadian accent! GO Vancouver!) ACtiON, some think of as academic, does talk about rigor/disciple-(ah but do your scribe-ha, ha?) global transformation 2017: SDG transformations forum cooled, small group of people/orgs that we move urgently, using poor use/scale/timeliness, not yet integrated as we must at scale/urgently

From: Diane Skidmore (11:40 AM) Thanks Jasper. Hello Steve - glad to hear the word 'urgently'!! And you recognised the Transformation Moment!! Great!!

From: Kat Haber (11:40 AM) SW: COVID_obvious crisis best time to spur transformation, SO>>> as Bounce Beyond, 4 months of intense discussions like Eduard Muller and in transformation in many arenas

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:41 AM) @Marilyn seems like you would add an important area and point of view to these folks…

From: Diane Skidmore (11:41 AM) hahaha A really Big Bounce!!

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (11:42 AM) @Kathryn - as you may notice Steve and I both Canadians - and I also worked with Credit Unions when I was in BC :-) not accidental roots imo :- From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:42 AM) @Marilyn ;- From: Kat Haber (11:42 AM) BOUNCE BEYOND into new era of newcocreate a shift in economic paradigm to 1 that supports life flousihing economies

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (11:43 AM) @Kathryn - plus Integral City's trainings are called Beyond Smart, Beyond Resilient, Beyond Complexity ... Beyond is the next dimension :- From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:43 AM) @MArilyn YAY

From: Diane Skidmore (11:44 AM) Love these Values

From: Kat Haber (11:44 AM) SW: (we have seen several of these in HR!) Extinction rebellion, Sistema B, FairTrade-40 years old, Transformation intervention, shared values, Stewardship. optimizing collective value, respectful governance, learning From: nature, all my relations

From: Kat Haber (11:46 AM) SW: change or transformation, incremental, reform, transformation? Core questions, purpose, power/relationships, action logic, archetypical actions, tools to evaluate each in time/intent/tools shifting structures

From: Kat Haber (11:48 AM) SW: Implementing new goals to reorienting society, displacing monolithic structures, displace energy centrality to integrate future goals, new goals, PROSUMER new role integrates production of energy with consumer of household, phase out extractors (YAY, ALaSKA THANKS YOU!)Wage gaps are Xtractions how do we end that?

From: Diane Skidmore (11:48 AM) Point 4 - brill - transform the old organisations

From: Diane Skidmore (11:49 AM) Yaaaay!! And DISRUPT the old economy!!!

From: Paul Coleman (11:50 AM) Can I hear someone typing?

From: Diane Skidmore (11:50 AM) A Whole New Way!! Wahaaay!! Love unpredictable too - wahaaay indeed!! Loving this slide show (Georg and Richard xxx(Together with Steve's words - essential!! From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:54 AM) @Steve YES it has been SO sad to see so many progressive entrepreneurs sell out to the old guard. They did not see another path…

From: Diane Skidmore (11:54 AM) Oh my Goodness!! The DNA - brill

From: Kat Haber (11:54 AM) SW: possibility we see: Old order is disrupted fine time to push for new order, no jobs, new BOUNCING BEYOND a time for people to be concerned for livelihood issues, Next economies arising (SAM)e with educations structures in the USA-trying to send kids back to factory style fact/figure stuffing?) Next economies rising, transformation knowledge requires scale, niches are snuffed out due to scale easily when understood as threats, many moving parts/feedback loops, discern new pathways, unpredictable, emergence, testing, how do we get to the next economies: 3 HORIZONS-fitness for purpose, currently not fit and is declining and is destroying core environment, not providing equity, so H3 basis for value, H2 with logos of emergent initiatives to support transformation process to H3 future, cooptation is rAM)pant, careful, clear stake in the ground or easily coopted for incremental change, new XAM)ples are committed to H3, Likened to DNA phase out H1 while growing H3 focused on H2 linkages between them?

From: Diane Skidmore (11:55 AM) Gosh @Kat - well done!!

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:55 AM) @Steve - nice up level!

From: Diane Skidmore (11:55 AM) Phew!!! Yes - a SYSTEM!!!

From: Kat Haber (11:55 AM) SW: Transformation system, like healthcar9Ha, varyinPoorly organized, aiming to radically change status quo. isssues/place based, power generated by initiatives awareness of participants/systems?g degrees of success? From: Kat Haber (11:57 AM) 4 transformational strategies: confrontation to collaboration spectrum-civil war rising tensions, Collaboration logical tensions, Creation of the new, critical to the future, also must deal with destruction of the old (anyone know the cost of deconstructing medium refinery? From: Diane Skidmore (11:57 AM) (That was ' A New System) and - gosh - this is joyful stuff!! Each step ……. e.g. The Lover strategy xxx

From: Me (11:58 AM) Sadly, Michael Moore's film "Planet of the Humans" talks about the "H2" problem of cooption of the movement. https://planetofthehumans.com/

From: Diane Skidmore (11:58 AM) Entrepreneur..... XR!! No answer but yes - warriors to propel change!!!

From: Kat Haber (11:59 AM)

  1. 1: Lover strategy, concrete for the future, #2: entrepreneur little time and just doing it XAM)ple of the future #3: fWarrior, forcing change, protestors, providing important energy to propel changes forward with legitimacy/urgency #4: pathfinders within orgs N Corps, Imperitive 21 all tells us its about all of them together with rhythm, collaboration working together with common goals?

From: Diane Skidmore (11:59 AM) And Pathfinders...…. All different aspects of what's needed. Great!!

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:03 PM @Steve you are mapping different ecologies… very nice!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:04 PM From: farm to fork : let's do a simple audit - how many kilometres does the food you eat travel. how much energy does this entire proces consume.

From: Jane (12:05 PM Current Education Systems are often resistant when it comes to making change. What are the Positive,Transformational strategies in terms of "crossing the chasm" of present day Education systems particularly at the Leadership levels?

From: Kat Haber (12:06 PM SW: Building on pathways that has scaffolded us to this point (Ever watch a branch grow?) Urgent take advantage and move forward, 10 next economies, particular cases, to flourishing futures, actions of cocreating infrastructures hosting actions, collaboratively to generate net pathways, From: transformation knowledge innovation adoption curve, stages, 90’2 Jeffrey Moore itemized MOORE’s Law (?) connect market segments, early adopters, driven by creating a community to generate activity, early majority behaviors are open to change realize need to change but do not desire the passion and new ways of thinking, get in and drive the car without understanding how the drivetrain works, SO HOW DO WE CROSS THIS CHASM? week priorities, confusion of pathways, many doing different things, working in collaboratively and cohesive, critical

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:06 PM @Jane - great question - make take the development of a new system instead of working to change. I’d love to see a map of what’s actually happening now....

From: Jane (12:06 PM Agree Kathryn!

From: Diane Skidmore (12:07 PM @Jane - wonder - did the last slide help with the education question (I'm maybe not clever enough but - it looked good From: Kat Haber (12:08 PM SW: Strategy: Integrate, cohere, AM)plify today’s new initiatives, enable cocreatie , catalyze,, learn, evaluate, CONECTS Collaborating, Next, Economy, Community, Transformations, Global sustainable fisheries XAM)ple, chasm crossing point resonated with industry/NGOS themselves (COULD THIS HELP BRISTOL BAY WHERE PEBBLE MINE IN ALSKA IS JUST BEING RUSHED THROUGH WITH Mr. t’s administration? From: Jane (12:10 PM I have been working on "crossing the chasm" for decades and often face reluctance when it comes to making any kind of change especially at the top.

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:11 PM @Jane I certainly agree in education - they actually actively undermine change...

From: Jane (12:11 PM CAM)e in late so missed the slide you mentioned.

From: Jane (12:11 PM @diane

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:12 PM 60% of the Indian village population is engaged in agriculture. But agriculture provides economic work for only 200 days in the year. of which majority is not revenue generation till the crop is harvested and sold. 
But what is needed is integrated vertical agricultural practices. besides large populations have dispossessed because of floods, droughts, soil salinity and other disasters. so there was migration. What India needs is Decentralised growth with multiple donut economic designs for each district.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:12 PM @Jane - I had to home educate the last four kids (and therefore others in the area) as - system was so not good. And @Jane - taking pics of slides so - maybe can find it later - phew. Will let u know

From: Kat Haber (12:13 PM SW: So many solutions presented this week bringing together 10 communities working together to strengthen their work as leading NEXT ECONOMICS< Scale, complexity, current economies being replaced, B Corps, new way of organizing multistakeholders instead of financiers, prevention derivatives, XAM)ple CA wildfire prevention different strategy, advancing in California now, applied to other efforts instead putting investments into Climate adaptation? Precompetitive agreements-fisheries get together to make sure the fisheries are healthy econologicaly sustainable-YAY, new economies, stock markets, social stock market in India/Scotlands, SEEDS currencies, creat e currencies that embed the logic of future world, current finance system is driving us over the edge the way finance is structured now, Nurture nature as she nurtures us, reiterative ag, new production process, new filling in gaps/connectivity (FASCIA? OF A FINER FUTURE? From: Shannon McArthur (12:13 PM Displaced people need to be welcomed in gardens where their energies can be well used inn growing food while they get to know their new home food sheltered indoors where weather events will not ruin the harvest

From: Jane (12:14 PM Yes I should be able to catch the slide later. Thanks Diane.

From: Kat Haber (12:15 PM SW: Bounce Beyond deep systems advisory group, core teAM), finance, IPCC report to understand what needs to be done, many focusing on finance, evaluation system of input/output From: short to whole systems, narratives, innovation systems undesirable outputs social discord, concentrating wealth, Gov/ORg are 19th century captured by lobbyists, capacity development to do these processes with deep knowledge and sensitivity, evolving Co-NECTS

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:15 PM The Panchayat system is a viable governance system that should be explored. and yes there is a mandatory reservation of 1/3 women to be part of the Panchayat.

From: Jane (12:16 PM Have to leave early today, so huge thanks again to all you inspirational souls.

From: Kat Haber (12:16 PM SW: Distinctive qualities? Next economies infrastructure, creating, pathways to crosss chasms, design teAM)s with deep transformation Xperience/knowledge, global partnership with Jasper

From: Me (12:16 PM How can new economics be explained to "conservative" thinking people? Is it a language issue?

From: Shannon McArthur (12:17 PM thanks Steve!

From: Diane Skidmore (12:17 PM Thanks to you too Jane - good questions!

From: Kat Haber (12:17 PM SW: find our places in the next economies Info@transformationsforum.net (What are ours, everyone? From: MALINI Rajendran (12:17 PM thanks Steve
 awesome my head is buzzing full of ideas.

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:17 PM @Steve please put connections into the chat.

From: Jane (12:18 PM To quote the great Tina Turner, you are all, "Simply The Best!".

From: Diane Skidmore (12:18 PM Yes, thanks @ Steve - that was fantastic!!

From: Kat Haber (12:18 PM Indra Adnan: The Alternative UK Big Questions where and what is agency? Stanley Pokras Pokras 09:33 AM)

Is r3.0 engaged with this?
R3.0 – Redesign for Resilience and Regeneration
https://www.r3-0.org/

Jasper Kenter 09:38 AM)

Thanks for the link, no not yet engaged with GANE

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:19 PM @Steve excellent and inspiring strategy - love to see the 3Horizons frAM)e

From: Kat Haber (12:20 PM AI: Systems architect and soft power consultant, International relations term, now the initiator of the Alternative UK, if politics is broken what is the alternative?

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:20 PM @Steve thank

From: Holley Rauen (12:20 PM COVID is a test and an opportunity for Unity

From: Shannon McArthur (12:20 PM catalyst

From: Holley Rauen (12:21 PM indeed

From: Kurt Krueger (12:21 PM Do we have any meme’s, Social Media blurbs prompting “others” to be prompted to think of new options? Linking to a more expansive offering? When it’s right, make it easy.
When it’s wrong, make it obvious. 
~ Maureen Hoyt

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:23 PM @Kurt interesting question

From: Shannon McArthur (12:23 PM Imagination is our ticket to the New Bright and Beautiful World

From: Shannon McArthur (12:24 PM “they” have seeded our imaginations for way too long. Time to make our own “common ground” in our shared Imagine-Nation.

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:24 PM who's drAM)a are we being made part of.

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:24 PM That’s why happens to engaging visions and that’s why visioning is so important

From: Kat Haber (12:25 PM IA: Many are with space/internal time to questions, much has been shared, many questioning, others complete on urgent pressing, more dangerous moment than ever before Xperiences, soldiers on the frontline facing the fire for us, these two observing each other, we are a world in crisis, intention is to tell a story of the CORONAVIRS hit, rose, worked together, looking From: universal pserpective to overcome, will we? COMPLETEY other story on news paper From: pages-planet falling apart, fractured in great danger, completing stories, new narratives, active dreAM)ing webinars and initiatives (Just reminded me of the dreAM)ing HR session we did a while back) Who’s story are we in? AM)erican DreAM) $ plowed into keeping that dreAM) alive, UK great Brittish dreAM) and industry, minds/imaginations, power of these dreAM)s, ow Chinese DreAM) From: culture to commodity, COnfuscious Institutes globally, as we aim for new narrative industries be aware, been in a revolution for 20 years(tech? many of these CEO’s today are testifying

From: Nirmalan Dhas (12:25 PM What are we supposed to do with these dreAM)s…what is the role that they can play….what is the role that they have played in the past...

From: Kat Haber (12:26 PM AI: before Congress on monopoly power.

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:26 PM @Nirmalan how can we connect them and direct time to global vibrance and health?

From: Kurt Krueger (12:27 PM A bold idea to replace politicians

César Hidalgo’s TedTalk has a radical suggestion for fixing our broken political system: automate it! In this provocative talk, he outlines a bold idea to bypass politicians by empowering citizens to create personalized AI representatives that participate directly in democratic decisions. Explore a new way to make collective decisions and expand your understanding of democracy. https://www.ted.com/talks/cesar_hidalgo_a_bold_idea_to_replace_politicians#t-776285

From: Kat Haber (12:27 PM AI: what have political entrepreneurs been doing? Global revolution giving people ourselves participation in the process, new parties in Europe, Taiwan, Indonesia, giving focu on how might more participate, AI: (AM)AZON< FACEBOOK< AP All testifying now on antitrust-the niche killing SW talked about in Congress right now From: Holley Rauen (12:28 PM I was in Taiwan right when they shut down to protect everyone From: COVID on Feb 5th. Impressive cooperation!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:28 PM what is the link to the Taiwan story.

From: Me (12:29 PM Are there people working on the language of transformation to make it understandable to "conservtive" audiences? Some conservatives are locked into issues like "guns" and "abortion" and may not be moved by logic. But many other conservatives might be able to participate in transformation if the proper descriptions of the goals and methods were laid out for them using language they can understand. If transformation can be linked to communism or socialism by the right wing media, the resistance will be high.

From: Nirmalan Dhas (12:30 PM Linking up with each other across the face of the planet in order to share our dreAM)s and HELP each other DO what our teAM)s require that we DO…..may be the way to go

From: Kat Haber (12:30 PM AI: reason for alternative UK-BREXIT referendum to leave EU, 4 days before an MP was murdered by enthusiastic LEAVE supporter, all had to rethink the impact of the politics of division, communities/countries causing very opposite for the people to come together. (WE BELONG TO EACH OTHER.) caused violence at community level (Protests in USA right now cities. From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:30 PM @Stan how can those two concerns be integrated into language that moves toward more unity?

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:31 PM Thank you Indra for stating and showing the real truth about what's happening.

From: Leo Jacoby (12:31 PM Only 2% of people belong to a political party across Europe.

From: Kat Haber (12:32 PM AI: only 2% of people belong to political parties, human is a bio/psycho/social/spiritual being

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:32 PM Homoeconomics - love that.

From: Me (12:32 PM @Kathryn - my question seeks out people who are working on the language. I can only ask.

From: Kat Haber (12:32 PM @mailini yes!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:32 PM which is why humanity needs to reclaim it's divinity.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:33 PM @Malini yes

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:33 PM @Stan, my Birds of a Feather Model suggests language for doing just that, that’s why I ask.

From: Carlos Prosser (12:33 PM Thanks Indra going deep

From: Nirmalan Dhas (12:33 PM The reason why our needs are not met is often because we have to spend ALMOST ALL our time trying to find our “Material Needs”

From: Me (12:34 PM @Kathryn - I'd like to hear your ideas!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:34 PM @nirmalan absolutely right.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:34 PM @Stanley - words - may well be one of the tasks we at HR can solve/support/help

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:35 PM @Indra thank you for your exploration of bio-psycho-cultura-social-spiritual human agency

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:35 PM @Indra - your graphics are stellar!!!

From: Diane Skidmore (12:37 PM Holistic People Power - great words. Have to say - in this area XR and Mutual Aid are the sAM)e people!! Transition Town too

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:37 PM SINE

From: Carlos Prosser (12:37 PM @Indra i love the way you present the main issue, How? From: a realistic and imaginative perspective

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:37 PM @Indra - beyond citizen action networks - how about Action Networks of 4 Voices - citizens+civil society/3rd sector =civic manager +business/innovators

From: Holley Rauen (12:37 PM This is beautiful!

From: Kat Haber (12:37 PM AI: if we ignore our needs then there will great social impacts, also look at human being to get our needs met, but if toxic/stressed to get material needs met then resources do not arise, revolution of past 20 years impact of complex aspects of humanness moving back into relationship, story of us, as disconnected humans as current politics separates us, time when through global virtual consciousness is rising a new interconnectedness is returning, From: I to We to World to flourishing planet, revolution is delivering to us, to relational welfare/politics, where we live, might look like competing currently easily coopted, citizens coming into relationship ourselves, new forms containers for holistic people power, ways of citizens coming together in our neighborhoods, finding ways of integrating agency/strategy that SW describes, Mondragon, Transitions, Neighborocracy 30 at a time setting up childre/people parliAM)ents to national level, social enterprise people, appearing all over the world, ordinary citizens i

From: Nirmalan Dhas (12:37 PM We all need “HELP” to realize what we know CAN be realized and what we will BENEFIT From: MOST will be a way by which we can FIND the people who have the FUNCTIONAL CAPACITIES that can HELP us to realize what our DREAM)S tell us CAN be realized….THIS is something that the INTERNET and information technology may be able to do…

From: Diane Skidmore (12:37 PM Ordinary people taking responsibility!! Great!!!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:38 PM yes SHG self help groups are a greate alternate financing module. India has managed to formalise this very effective way.

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:38 PM @Indra - thanks so much for bringing in Karen O'Brien's You Matter More than You Think (she cites the fractal patterns we use in Integral City :- From: Michelle Kidd (12:39 PM Yes our buying habits are Very Important and there we have Great power

From: Shannon McArthur (12:39 PM Nicely done, Indra! Thank you!

From: Kat Haber (12:39 PM AI: Xploring the fractal power of every action we take, you matter more than you think book ,what we choose her impact across the world, what is the economy at the core of our action as people on the ground From: globalized directly to the grounded local economies? we are all looking for these.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:39 PM Wow!!! Wonderful!! Thank you Indra!!

From: Michelle Kidd (12:39 PM Thank you Indra 💓

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:39 PM @Indra - very exciting!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:39 PM Indira simply brilliant and finally an agency perspective much needed.

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:41 PM languages for communities that's where we need to honour diversity and cultural perspectives.

From: Me (12:42 PM Dear Chat PEOPLE, panelists, too..
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. Please write to me if you would like to participate (even if you can't join us today) and don't already have the Zoom link. I have also created an email list for us to interact without being on at the sAM)e time.
stan@communitymagic.org

From: Jen Forti (12:42 PM I agree that I think finding the common ground with the language we use to make it digestible for non-like minded folks is super important

From: Shannon McArthur (12:42 PM Yes, Jen

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:42 PM @Stan - I come From: the soul age perspective - that means there are different fears at each age, so language that addresses those specific issues allows for hearing at the next age.

From: Nirmalan Dhas (12:42 PM The difference between what we NEED and what we WANT must be clearly understood and DIFFERENTIATED. We NEED free unpolluted AIR and WATE and nutritious FOOD before we can work on what we WANT.

From: Shannon McArthur (12:44 PM finance people razzle-dazzle us me

From: Jen Forti (12:44 PM @Steve, you’re awesome!

From: Gary Piazzon (12:44 PM Indeed “It ought to be remembered that there is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in introducing a new order of things, because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under the new.This coolness arises partly From: fear of opponents – who have the law on their side _ and partly From: the incredulity of men, who do not readily believe in new things until they have had long experience of them.” – Machiavelli,The Prince

From: Carlos Prosser (12:44 PM Humanity needs to be guided, whether we like it or not, abyss us or not. Guided by a new planetary leadership, we can assume that we are called or not, what we cannot avoid realizing is that we need to do it in Unity, forming a network of beings who agree on the essential, love, gratitude marveled by the life, the conviction in the urgency of radical collaboration. Humanity needs us, we are their last chance

From: CJ (12:44 PM @Steve! Thank you! That is my problem too! Establishment talks over you with their “expertise”

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:45 PM @steve is nice to know others are also being terrorised by the financiers.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:45 PM The thing is that - most of our present politicians are part of an old way. The (possible) new way is very new for ordinary folk and they don't really understand that - the planet and the human race have been on a journey. Mother Nature (thank goodness) is stronger than us humans so - the pandemic happened. been a Nooooo - that was not ready - clicked send instead of cut!! Please ignore xxx

From: CJ (12:45 PM @Steve — terrorized by establishment — perfect description!

From: Diane Sue (12:46 PM This has been another absolutely AM)azing discussion! Thank you for continuing to expand the possibilities. So important to understand how to approach the vocal resisters. I love the idea of encouraging them to search for the power of their r own humanity. We can model that every day in all o our interactions.

From: Kat Haber (12:46 PM JK: FrAM)ing, languaging, basic needs to be met before more of transformation, common knowledge, systems, multilayered approach for connections outward, From: social back inward, connecting ways are crucial SW:how to make transformation understandable to conservatives? hmmmm? Conservatives lack connection meaning fun connection/fears, small p political solution, appropriate control over creation of their future, donut economics a curious new thing instead of judgement about communism/socialism, need to raise funding required: $5,000,000, pursuing overcoming resistance, terrorized by Xpertise like derivatives financiers, assert them to reach for their humanity instead of stuck in wielding $/Power over us Indra Adnan: get beyond only shared valued people will require us to find ways to include those who do not share our values, Facebook/advertising appealing to emotional seles, desire for freedom (Based on Truth of fake news?) Smart crafters of narratives, let go of what is appealing to people and invite them

From: Kurt Krueger (12:46 PM We get to keep on chipping away at the ‘stone’ conservative with the hearts jackhAM)mer of LOVE.

From: Shannon McArthur (12:46 PM Oh, Kurt, you are so masculine! ; From: Diane Skidmore (12:47 PM Totally @Indra - let go of the old and tell the truth. Most of them will recognise that - there's a new say!!

From: Kat Haber (12:47 PM IA: truth, love, no enemies includes traditional enemies, From: fAM)ily keep looking for how we can move people?

From: CJ (12:47 PM @Indra — thank you for reminding us that enemies are part of the world too!

From: Monica Affleck (12:48 PM Maybe we can invite others into this vision of freedom if we don't think them of "enemies" but of other human beings with a soul

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:48 PM @ indra where do I find the link to the taiwan experience.

From: Shannon McArthur (12:48 PM @monica, yes, it helps…

From: CJ (12:48 PM @Ed thank you for bringing together such phenomenal panels over the past 7 days!!!! Uplifting the soul……. would love to have more days to explore and learn more…….. Thank you @Jim for HR!!

From: Paul Coleman (12:48 PM Is there a particular bounce beyond website?

From: Holley Rauen (12:48 PM Thank you all so very much.

From: Shannon McArthur (12:48 PM divide and conquer

From: Diane Skidmore (12:48 PM @Monica yes!!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:48 PM divide and conquer.

From: SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT (12:49 PM Divide and conquer.

From: Michelle Kidd (12:49 PM Thank you Ed, you are Very Inspiring, it was a pleasure to meet you. Look forward to the September session 👍. Michelle

From: Kurt Krueger (12:49 PM The Separation Demon. There is a post on Ubiverse… Chemk it out.

From: SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT (12:50 PM Thank you Ed for your passion From: the heart.

From: Holley Rauen (12:50 PM The POWER of Story!

From: Shannon McArthur (12:50 PM stories provide perspective you can adopt or not. Choice is important

From: Gary Piazzon (12:50 PM Wow! Let’s Bounce Beyond boldly. The virus crisis as crisi do provides us the vulnerability to transform. It bears repeating as Paul Hawken “First we dreAM) it. Then we do it. Then we ask if it is possible.” Bless you for this.

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:50 PM Time to reclaim our Divinity Https://infinitelife.co.in

From: Me (12:50 PM The problem is not capitalism as an idea, the problem is some of the capitalists... the predators.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:50 PM Thank you Ed - brilliant guests you brought and your talking was great - unifying!! Thank you everyone in fact xxx

From: Holley Rauen (12:51 PM Mni Wiconi!

From: Shannon McArthur (12:51 PM october? or august? we have to wait till October?

From: Kat Haber (12:51 PM EM: thanks to all for this economics week, HR not yet peeking, moving away From: linear math to Exponential evolution? Support Bounce Beyond, cross the chasm together necessary, timely, critical, with Indra’s broken cup or our own national flags to divide people, divide and you will succeed, motive for the old power structures in fear (WE BELONG TO EACH OTHER-ALL OF US!) many solutions forward, capitalism has bee useful -so far all linked to capitalism, rob ideas and take credit to narrate one over the other (History is written by the victors? Let’s all win?)Look for Mauori tribe reverse Donut in October 12 Indigenous day, economics of the primordial, more to come,

From: Diane Sue (12:51 PM The discussion in October sounds AM)azing!

From: Jasper Kenter (12:51 PM GANE: www.york.ac.uk/new-economics, gane@york.ac.uk :- From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:51 PM Thank you Ed & Jim for catalysing these 7 days.

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:52 PM @Kat - You are SO wonderful!! Thanks for all you do!!!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:52 PM awesome 7 days. Thankyou all.

From: Kurt Krueger (12:52 PM Indigenous, can the come any sooner? Donut Economics is LIVED by these people. I’ve listened to the book, Braiding Sweetgrass and just found this to support what we learned on Donut economics. Love to talk with you about it. And how we may bring the Regenerative Society for the AM)elioration of Life. :) 
Reclaiming the Honorable Harvest: Robin Kimmerer at TEDxSitka

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:52 PM @Jasper - thanks!

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:52 PM Thank you Jesper, Steve, Indra for thinking, feeling, acting BEYOND the Beyonds

From: Shannon McArthur (12:52 PM I agree @Kurt

From: CJ (12:53 PM I third @Kurt!!!

From: Holley Rauen (12:53 PM No bounce, no play!

From: Yasmina Groenstein (12:54 PM @Ed -en lengua GRACIAS! por tu vision y bellissimo ser! 🙏❤

From: Kurt Krueger (12:54 PM Dancing and playing brings ANYONE toghther! Then we can talk and more.

From: Shannon McArthur (12:54 PM the windows we look at our situation differ - how do we focus the view of the many ‘I’s’ ?

From: Lane Maser (12:54 PM @Kurt, re. Braiding Sweetgrass - RECIPROCITY

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:54 PM DreAM) merchants.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:55 PM Thank you Jim - that picture - the need to bounce beyond or we miss the moment...….. Essential and urgent. yes. We must grab it!!

From: Kurt Krueger (12:55 PM Then we share food together and ENoy life together as the two sides of the coin/Tao.

From: Carlos Prosser (12:55 PM @Ed un abrazo desde Chile, te conectaré pronto, por favor tu correo

From: Diane Sue (12:55 PM Thank you to @Kat and @Leo for all of the notes,. I appreciate them every day!

From: Kat Haber (12:55 PM JG: 2 closing thoughts, measure our success by the resistance that rises up, all need to take in, coming to the last battle, scientists are telling us that we have run out of time, mistakes now do matter, life is at risk, there is rush, we can be stopped in an instant, facing rising crescendo of crises, centered on climate, tipping points (for millions of species) Arctice circle is hot, Siberia’s tundra is releasing massive methane (7,000 methane circles) Bounce Beyond is the choice point for humanity, either Bounce beyond (or we humane get bounced out? ) no neutral ground now, everybody is in this story, every decision we make is ultimately reverberating effects all in this together, IA the industry of myth making of neoliberaleconomics capitalism, AM)erica is the light on the top of the hill, China is building the great China as a world power, central importance of donut economics of Kate Raworth complex but easily loved and understood, relationship between massive upsurge, restating other economic models i

From: Beth Brownfield (12:55 PM SO IMPORTANT TO BRING IN MORE ORIGINAL NATIONS AND PEOPLES: OREN LYONS, STEVE NEWCOMB, ETC.!

From: CJ (12:56 PM @Kat and @Leo thank you for your contribution!!!

From: Kat Haber (12:56 PM JG: whole new story of poetry of DONUT economics-(great visuals also) narrative of global meme, @BB yes new narrative change life

From: Shannon McArthur (12:56 PM We are READY for the new story.

From: Diane Sue (12:56 PM Would love to hear Joe Dispenza's take on this!

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:56 PM China suffers From: a fierce poor sense of self-esteem so they believe their narrative as their identity and what gives them life. This is dangerous as Tibet discovered…

From: Kurt Krueger (12:56 PM Get a MAM)O From: Colombia, I know an extremely powerful one. : From: Michelle Kidd (12:56 PM Thank you Everyone for a Fantastic week of discussions 👍🙏👋Michelle

From: Yasmina Groenstein (12:57 PM Jim...In next US elections...I'm definitely voting for you!!!! : From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:57 PM @Jim YES so wonderful to know what we know and how we are thinking and that the goal is LIFE and HEALTH instead of money an power.

From: Kat Haber (12:57 PM JG; wonderful to know that we are this sohisticated, how world works, functioning in culex/layered way, now to infuse to global mind Thanks all for the HOW!

From: Shannon McArthur (12:57 PM but how do you get your neighbour to water your plants while you go to work.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:58 PM Aren't we lucky!!! Brilliant brains and great note takers too!! Thank you to everyone xxx

From: Gary Piazzon (12:58 PM Humility, Gratitude, Reciprocity, Compassion, Courage, Wisdom, Right thinking, Right Action

From: shawne mitchell (12:58 PM Jim, Ed - and TeAM) . . . AGAIN . . . an extraordinary panel sharing brilliant, poignant, and inspirational ideas! Grazie mille!

From: Paul Coleman (12:58 PM Brilliant all. Thank you.

From: Shannon McArthur (12:58 PM oh awe - Kim!!

From: Kat Haber (12:58 PM JG: transforming trauma into healing-DO NOT MISS KIM”S recitations!

From: Jen Forti (12:59 PM Thank you all <3

From: Kurt Krueger (12:59 PM FUN Cultural Transformative Event:

How may we have peace and plenty for all? Here is a practical and fun way to start solving these problems…

The annual World Fest is designed to create enjoyable times allowing one to forget the negative forces around our world, to mingle with different peoples, to allow sociological barriers to dissipate, and to learn dynAM)ic ways for peace and regenerative, while bringing copious AM)ounts of money to quality charities each year. With live streAM)ing for the world to participate as best they can and be inspired!

Check out: www/theWorldFestOrganization.org

Connect with me if you feel inspired with the vision. We can make the Vision come ALIVE!

Kurt Krueger World Fest Inspirit

From: Yasmina Groenstein (12:59 PM 🙏❤

From: Gary Piazzon (12:59 PM The International Transformational Resilience Coalition

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:59 PM Thank you ALL!