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11:03:22 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
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   Welcome to Humanity Rising ay 324 - Let's a;ll be healthy and form networks to help the planet stay healthy, too.
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11:05:49 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
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   Welcome to Humanity Rising Day 324 - Let's all be healthy and form networks to do the same for everyone and the planet, too.
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11:07:31 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
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   Yes, Stanley. A lovely welcome.
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11:07:48 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
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   See the listings covering "Health" on OtherNetworks: ::https://othernetworks.org/Category:Issue-Health::
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11:08:28 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Greetings, All, from Kamloops BC, traditional lands of the the Secwepemc. Please include everyone here in the chatbox so we can see what you say!
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11:09:53 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
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   Thank you, Rita.
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11:14:19 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
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   You can see the list of programs that Lars and David lead on Lars' page: ::https://othernetworks.org/Lars_M%C3%BCnter::
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11:15:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Welcome Caroline! Great to hear of your work!
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11:17:57 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
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   👍
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11:18:40 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
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   Will have to catch the recording later. Grateful for this series on health.
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11:22:05 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
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   Woohoo! Yes!
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11:23:07 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Kate’s work is very special here! She has a course available through UU.
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11:23:50 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   Doughnut Economy!! Thanks Caroline!! Spread the word. It's a very  real alternative (for those who have trouble seeing anything else). And actually, a gentle change!!
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11:24:41 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   It works because it can be flexible. It can be adapted by all!!
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11:25:52 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   A good tool is adaptable! Kate’s donut is that, and a fun concept.
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11:26:15 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   Indeed Shannon xxx
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11:26:59 From Caroline Whyte to Everyone:
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   Thanks, Shannon and Diane! I really love the doughnut model. We’ve put it in our Theory of Change in Feasta: ::https://www.feasta.org/theory-of-change/::
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11:27:04 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
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   now I feel like eating a doughnut
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11:29:46 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   I wish someone would mention it to our PM (UK). He's about to head COP26 but is still playing the old game. And this week, news re CO2 problems causing loss of access to fertiliser and fizzy drinks and instead of cheering and encouraging less consuming (grabbing the moment) he has agreed to fund the CO2 company. Ooooops!!
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11:31:29 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   We could be saving the planet!!! Yaaaay!! (Then we could have a donut to celebrate hahaha)
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11:32:05 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Universal Basic Income would be easier to administer.
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11:32:11 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   Different basic incomes - great idea!!
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11:32:38 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   (Altho yes, UBI is my fave too xxx)
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11:34:28 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
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   infancy for sure
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11:34:39 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   We better be quick!! Lots of people worldwide in a far worse state than Louisiana (or Europe)
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11:34:43 From Caroline Whyte to Everyone:
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   CapGlobalCarbon could help to fund a world-wide Universal Basic Income!
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11:34:46 From Jane Norton to Everyone:
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   the U.S is still in pre-school!
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11:35:14 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   Brilliant Caroline!!!
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11:36:20 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   Some older peeps are Elders - they have wisdom - there is some (to share with those active young ones)
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11:38:01 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   Do you mean 'head in sand' will mean they don't notice and we can be free to do helpful stuff and make real change
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11:39:49 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   Mental health also needs help worldwide!! Love is the answer. Give love and you'll feel better. Give love and others feel better too xxx
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11:43:47 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   Isn't it the case that those in the halls of power are representing us, the people? There are some - Caroline Lucas (UK): AOC (USA) There are more of us
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11:47:08 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   It's a time of magic!! Rise above reality and work for the dream!!! We CAN save the planet!!!
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11:47:21 From Mohammed Haque to Everyone:
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   Hi Good Morning hope every person in Good Health and have a peaceful life, , We have been doing advocacy and campaigning to restore democracy and human rights in Bangladesh, Kindly assist our campaign email: peaceandjusticealliance@gmail.com; Peace And Justice Alliance, Canada Thanks
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11:48:01 From Rodger Heard to Everyone:
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   start with your connection by learning to love yourself your connection to source knowledge is what we should depend upon not foolishness that is being broadcast at this time.
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11:50:31 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   Yes Rodger. Love - yourself, then family, friends and neighbours. Then place. The planet! All life on earth!! Love is the answer!!
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11:51:19 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   In fact, Universal Love could fit well with Universal Basic Income, couldn't it
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11:51:54 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Sounds good to me, Diane!! If only we could prescribe it!
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11:51:57 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
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   Let’s continue to spread more LOVE and Helpfulness. They Work Wonders... When we “work it”… We know what happens when we regularly focus on what we want.    
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   Always look on the Bright Side of Life. Be the Sun in someone’s life. Focus on what we want like the laser beam focuses energy… Be like beautiful flowers for people to see in their life.   
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   On this Special Day, let’s start practicing this psycho-somatic-spiritual Meditation that can greatly help, In just 15 minutes: ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo::.  “Peace in Everything, Everything with Peace” will reverberate throughout the day… making it the focus and bringing us more peace and also for ‘others.’ Be the PeaceMaker radiating Peace.   
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   Thanks for Being the Hope of Humanity in your own inimitable manner.  Living Simply so that ‘Others’ may Simply Live.   
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   When you are inspired, please feel free to collaborate with the Peace Lab, OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab   
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   Have a magical day creating the Grandest Version of Your Greatest Vision!
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11:52:59 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   More forests!! Absolutely!  On a good note!
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11:53:11 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
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   Pachamama Alliances Vision statement, Create an environmentally sustainable, spiritually fulfilling, socially just human presence on Mother Earth. :)   
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   Pachamama.org Alliance presents workshops for this and Drawdown. Paul Hawken’s book, DRAWDOWN, illuminates the 100 BEST ways to REVERSE GLOBAL WARMING, #6 is Educating Women!    
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   The Awaken the Dreamer, Change the Dream 2 hour online course is free: ::https://landing.pachamama.org/awakening-the-dreamer-2-hour-online-course::
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11:54:07 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Thanks Kurt, great link
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11:55:30 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
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   We know that people are getting stressed out having to deal with the effects of Covid/lockdown on themselves and a their lifestyles. Fears of resurgences, lockdowns, infections, loss of employment, etc. Stress causes immune deficiencies thus greater susceptibility to illnesses, accidents, and worse ~ suicides. The mental AND emotional health of ALL in our social system must be a priority.    
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   There are several primary practices that are extremely effective in ameliorating all of this. Each only take 60-90 seconds  and may be alternated or stick to the one’s that work for you… Roller Coaster Fingers, Trauma Tapping Technique, Karate Kid Koncentration Technique, Switching, and PeaceMaker Meditation to name a few. They are each valuable and easy to apply to everyday life. It can be instructed online Zoom style trainings. Contact me if this interests you.
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11:56:07 From Caroline Whyte to Everyone:
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   Here’s the Feasta/EHFF podcast that Mike mentioned in which John Sharry and others discuss the mental health impacts of the environmental crisis: ::https://soundcloud.com/user-589284216/living-well-in-the-face-of-climate-and-ecological-crises::
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11:56:34 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Thank you, Caroline. Interesting
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11:56:44 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   Yes, Lars. The more mental health sessions the better!! For the planet. For ALL LIFE. We could meditate (and even do EFT) for the planet as well as individual groups/countries/tribes: for forgiveness so we can 'clean up' the trauma. BRILLIANT IDEA!!!!!
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11:57:30 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
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   Get it into the Prison systems too… The trauma reduction…
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11:58:41 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   As long as the Earth wins… we have a chance. If She loses, so do we.
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11:59:55 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   There's a whole load of stuff related to prisons in the UK today Kurt. Time for massive change to ALL institutions.
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12:01:00 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   And convincing 'the people' - as time goes by, there are more who do understand. We need to change the way we live. It just takes our leaders to lead us!! That's why - "Please PM. Investigate Donuts"!!!
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12:02:40 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   We need a new way. Yes,2020 and  the pandemic supposedly gave us some insight. Now, 2021, we need seeds for change!!
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12:03:22 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
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   Great book called
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12:03:29 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   We ARE panting seeds for change!! Just make sure our thoughts are helpful!! And tone down consuming!!!
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12:03:30 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
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   Beautiful Constraints
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12:03:58 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   When you’re as tall as a toddler, falling doesn’t hurt that much. We are falling from a great height - it is liable to hurt a great deal. So let us get creative about how we save ourselves and help our planet receive us more softly.
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12:04:36 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   Exactly - quality of life came when we had less. More has led to fat people (me hahaha)
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12:06:26 From Caroline Whyte to Everyone:
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   Interesting point, Shannon! (Though I don’t think everyone is at the same height!!)
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12:06:58 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   David, I appreciate your opinions.
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12:07:45 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   The closer we are to the Earth, the less it will hurt when we fall!
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12:08:31 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
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   Richard, Have we dispensed with the live link to the program on You
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12:08:35 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
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   tube
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12:09:09 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
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   Have we also dispensed with the live link on Facebook?
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12:09:29 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
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   THANK YOU AL:L FOR YOUR EZFFZORTS. They will bear fruit in time! Sorry,I get to another meeting for our Humanity Rising program on Friday, Character Inclusion for Regenerating Societies. Please feel free to attend and offer any expertise you have with the Peace Lab. OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab. It includes the Health and Environmental issues affecting Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace.
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12:10:35 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
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   Will we be able to have a recording for people to watch later?
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12:11:02 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   This is the first time ever that everyone in the world knows about everyone else and so much more. It's also eth first time ever in the history of the planet that we are all able to communicate with each other. The pandemic was a gift - it stopped all our ways of life and gave us chance to think and see and maybe turn the ship (as Lars said). It's just whether we, human beings - all of us, decide to change our way of living. Again - our leaders are supposed to lead us but - if they don't we can still make efforts (and small changes) ourselves. This was the very thing that Jim used to say about Humanity Rising. Time to grab the moment and change
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12:11:41 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
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   Rick, may I have access to capture the chat?
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12:12:38 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
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   Yes re: health and though what about getting to the tone at the top and how large food companies are putting addictive aspects in our foods. I think for the environment and food industry, a lot of changes could happen if the largest companies changed. We are literally fed convenience, addicting food, etc. and propaganda that it’s about us making the wrong choices. Not at all saying we have no responsibility - of course our personal choices matter, but I believe our large industrial complexes and governance dependence on such is up for change and all of these transitions could occur more easily. If plastic is not available, I’ll bring my own bags… etc.
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12:12:55 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
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   Are there other alternative hosts where we can send people to view the replay?
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12:13:12 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   Mental health first - healthy mind, healthy body!! Then - stop processing food!!
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12:14:10 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   Yes, Katherine, I've enjoyed not being able to go to supermarkets. We're all human and therefore are attracted to the stuff they sell!! And it's killing us - and the planet!!!
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12:15:00 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
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   Yes, keep them in the ground. Agree, the economic systems will also be required to change, including our politics and policy as a whole… love that - universal perspective.
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12:15:22 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
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   Rick, are  you there?
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12:16:36 From David Somekh to Stanley Pokras Pokras, Host and Panelists:
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   Stanley, Rick is off and Georg is standing in for him
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12:17:40 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
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   Thank you for the amazing efforts on that work!
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12:19:47 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
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   Georg, there seems to be no live presentation of today's program which people can view later. Is there an alternative?
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12:20:50 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
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   Georg, can you make me a panelist so that I can capture the
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12:20:56 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
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12:21:30 From Hilary Van Welter to Everyone:
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   My sense is Code Red is demanding us to reimagine ….including the preposterous
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12:21:35 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
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   Rick has been going that for me each day.
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12:21:47 From Hilary Van Welter to Everyone:
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   Bring out our 5 year olds!
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12:22:08 From Georg Boch to Stanley Pokras Pokras(Direct Message):
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   done
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12:22:27 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Georg Boch(Direct Message):
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   Thank you.
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12:23:15 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   “Out of the mouths of babes…”
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12:23:17 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Georg Boch(Direct Message):
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   Now, do you know what has happened to the live show on YouTube and Facebook?
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12:23:48 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:
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   I'm here! id : 845 8842 5906
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12:24:08 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Yay, Julie!
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12:24:27 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   We're out of sorts because we shop in supermarkets and life is encouraged - like you say - we go for 'cheap'!! Crazy!!
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12:24:49 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
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   Yes thank you for mentioning the food industry aspect… System change, agree.
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12:25:28 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Cheap is the fruit from the trees in your backyard - we have them but so many ignore the fruit that has fallen for us.
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12:25:39 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   *That life (using supermarkets) Yaaay!! System change!!!
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12:26:06 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   Better to lose the business than lose the planet tho!! We need to remind them!!
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12:26:37 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Sigh. It’s been a slice, gentlemen. Thank you for coming and sharing your “bleak outlook” and your hope.
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12:26:59 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   Thank you indeed!!
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12:27:03 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Georg Boch(Direct Message):
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   Will you be posting a video replay somewhere?
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12:27:08 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
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   Appreciate each of you and this wonderful discussion - thank you so much. So glad to hear the work being done and ideas being discussed and acted on - Thank you!!!
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12:27:27 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   At lest we know there are like-minded people!!
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12:27:55 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   And we can all do our best, can't we!!
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12:28:07 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
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   Yes Jim, that’s an interesting observation and I agree - feel that personally.
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12:28:15 From Georg Boch to Stanley Pokras Pokras(Direct Message):
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   Yes tomorrow morning it will be on YouTube, ubivverse and facebook
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12:28:26 From Joy Gilfilen to Everyone:
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   We are one whole living system...and do not forget that we can infuse the energy of vitality, love and hope throughout our organisms around a living world.  It takes focus, potential and remember, we are energy in motion.
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12:28:45 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
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   Thank you!!!Important to exchange all these ideas!!!Acknowledging what is in front of us..in and out..helps us embrace and step forward. Mystery is at hand...New solutions on their way.!!
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12:28:59 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   And that energy is LOVE!!!
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12:29:29 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Join us in the AfterChat so we can continue the conversation…
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12:29:49 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Chat PEOPLE and  panelists
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   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes.
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   You can join the Zoom Meeting
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   Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
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12:30:40 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:
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   Thank goodness every year the 3-5 years we have befire its too late for humans on earth... moves forward 1 year each year! In 2020 and every yr prior for a awhile we have heard we have much less then 10 yrs! Maybe only 2!
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   Thank you. I'll mention that in my daily report.  I send out a daily email that links to the OtherNetworks day page for the current episode. Send me an email address if you wan to receive this report.
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   Would love to join you for the After Chat but yet again - another thing to do (two things actually. Phew!!)
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12:31:20 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
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   Would love to go to chat...but I have meeting of my NGO...up north in Chapada Diamantina, Bahia/Brasil, where we are focusing in nature and community. I will be in touch
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12:31:41 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:
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   1970's!!!
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12:31:42 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   Yes. some of us have been 'on it' since 1965!! I remember!!
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   With love...   
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   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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12:32:13 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:
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   We heard this growing up in the 60'S and 70's right?!
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12:32:20 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Host and Panelists:
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   Politicians have tended to choose “getting elected” over telling people the inconvenient truth and making controversial changes.
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12:32:22 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
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   Yes thank you, Jim. Also, to note, I keep seeing governments speaking of 2050 - argh!
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12:32:39 From Joy Gilfilen to Everyone:
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   There are breatharians.  And there are already millions dying.  And there are solar flares coming in with more light than ever...and our human organisms can receive, converge, convert and relearn how to transmute our energy through our hearts....  Both and all are true.  We all can choose to actively change how we deal with anger, pain, hurt and fear...we can turn it into a desire to team, to rally, to do things that are an adventure to find out how fast we can change the world.  That is the question today.  How fast could we respond if we focus how could it be done if we didn't know it was not possible?  What if we were in fact working with Mother Nature instead of fighting with her?
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12:32:40 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Can we breathe methane?  We could just suffocate…
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12:33:01 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Host and Panelists:
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   But the China pledge to stop funding coal plants (even if just  abroad) is huge!
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12:33:24 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   I love your perspective, Joy.
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12:33:48 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Host and Panelists:
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   Joy
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12:34:20 From Mike Sandler to Everyone:
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   U.S. EPA is issuing a new rule to phase out HFCs from air conditioning etc, today. A step in the right direction.
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12:34:24 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
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   So - work with Mother Nature - as much as poss!! Right now!! And keep our minds full of love and helpfulness. Easier said than done but...….. Love Love Love!!!!
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12:34:48 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Now would be a good time to institute UBI… what good is money in the pockets of the rich to them if they cannot breathe?
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12:36:42 From Peg Kuperman to Everyone:
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   Shannon ..this has been my exact question for years...no understanding possible in this 'un'conscioudness
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12:37:10 From Joy Gilfilen to Everyone:
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   Let's not unite with fear...lets unite to the challenge we have to learn how to team up in extraordinary ways with regeneration and a vision that we can revitalize our systems.
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12:37:15 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:
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   UnCloud-csousness
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12:38:47 From Savanah to Host and Panelists:
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   Many humans will have to leave the planet before regeneration will be able to effectively move forward because it’s humans that counteract the benefits of regeneration already in operation.
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12:39:21 From Joy Gilfilen to Everyone:
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   If it could be done...how could it be done?
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12:39:33 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
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   Note.... The live stream for this program is off. The replay should be available tomorrow.
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12:39:46 From David Somekh to Savanah, Host and Panelists:
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   Its an uncomfortable fact we've been side-stepping but I happen to agree
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12:39:47 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:
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   Jim:
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   Spirit-Nature Masterminds will win Jim! It needs not to be proportional or mathmatically equal. the Divine Intellagence can make these changes in and trhough Humanity and Nature!
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12:39:47 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Let us unite to meet the challenge together - holding to each other we create a raft from which to save each other from the wreckage of the system that has held us while we’ve grown past the capacity of our environment.
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12:39:49 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Host and Panelists:
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   Ending the waste and desecration of militarism would be a tremendous re-balancing of our globe.
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12:40:11 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
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   My partner’s car was just submerged in NJ. We also have had to buy water there (Newark’s water system) for a couple of years because they can’t seem to fix the problems. Just noting that climate change is showing up in many ways - some are obvious - the fires, floods and hurricanes, and many I don’t believe we even hear about… of course especially when speaking of lower income areas. I agree the climate movement hasn’t had much affect up until now. Thank you for all of these comments, Jim, and for this COP coming up! Agree such an awareness - NOW - is necessary!
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12:40:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Thanks, Stan, for keeping an eye on things, and all that you do.
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12:40:36 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Host and Panelists:
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   Indeed, climate change is the greatest threat to our homes --our security. Not only will military actions not solve that threat, military production of greenhouse gases is a primary driver of that harm.  Yet, the globe’s militaries enjoy impunity from reporting their greenhouse gas emissions, unlike every other entity.  If you don’t measure it, you can’t tell if you’re changing it.  The upcoming UN climate change conference, COP 26, could change the international rules to require military reporting.  You are invited to sign this petition ::https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/stop-excluding-military-pollution-from-climate-agreements-2/::
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12:41:39 From John Sharry to Everyone:
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   I recommend the work of deep adaptation  (Jem bend all) and Active Hope ( Joanna Macy) as a means of finding ways of dealing with existential crisis
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12:42:16 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   John, Joanna Macy is wonderful!
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12:42:17 From Joy Gilfilen to Everyone:
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   What if we inspire each person who has any circle of influence...to change 1 degree and do it repeatedly, this accumulates fast; and the springboard it creates is the compound shift.
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12:42:45 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:
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   Is thie COP? ::https://unfccc.int/process/bodies/supreme-bodies/conference-of-the-parties-cop::
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12:42:46 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
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   Yes Joy!!!
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12:42:50 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Sometimes 1% is the tipping point…
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12:42:53 From Mike Sandler to Everyone:
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   Of course we'd like to grow the climate movement, but we need people to accept a climate dividend from the revenues brought in by a carbon price on fossil fuel companies. We called it Cap & Dividend, but in some ways it could be advertised as Dividend & Cap.
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12:43:09 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Georg Boch(Direct Message):
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   Georg, thank you for taking the helm today. The chat people are among your biggest fans.
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12:43:39 From Caroline Whyte to Everyone:
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   Some information here about the COP: ::https://www.climatechangenews.com/2021/09/06/cop26-matter-guide-glasgow-climate-summit/::
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12:43:56 From Caroline Whyte to Everyone:
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   ..and about CapGlobalCarbon: ::https://www.capglobalcarbon.org::
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12:43:57 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:
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   thanks Caroline!
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12:45:47 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
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   Georg Boch is hosting the presentation today. Richard Buckley is away. Thank you Georg!
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12:46:09 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Thanks, Georg! New challenges!
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12:48:25 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
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   I agree regarding restoration, and also, how do we stop the current development. I am often in SC and the downing of trees for building - without regulations and standards for not just trees and ecosystems but even infrastructure - is MIA. It is frustrating. That said, of course, leadership and new economics would make a difference. Yes I have emptied the room LOL  Thank you for these final comments - again so appreciate each of you. I appreciate hearing about this CAP carbon solution …
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12:48:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Thanks for doing the work you do, Mike. Down with doom and gloom - up with $1000
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12:48:41 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   It’s comforting
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12:48:51 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   So would UBI, be
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12:50:03 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   Intentional Change… we should talk about that!
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12:50:57 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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   What needs changing and how do we make the change?
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12:51:36 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:
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   Intentional Change (Joy G) sounds familiar!
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12:52:31 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
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   Yes I agree - I see Stop the Money Pipeline doing so much. - our youth and the digital events seem to add pressure!
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   We need to start addressing the root causes of illness. 78% of covid deaths are the obese… the agricultural systems,  GMO - non-food foods sold as food, pharma drugs with side effects that make people sicker - insurance doesn't cover the preventative health. People would be more available to help with climate change if we address the underlying sick systems. I came in late so not sure if you mentioned regen ag and carbon drawdown
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   thanks for the invitation to speak today , on the subject of personal choice and choosing what is important, I need to go to take my son to his soccer training.. !
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   Dear Jhn, Croline, avid and John, the Chatpeople publish a daily report with links to this recording and chat and the Afterchat's recording. Send me your email Stan@othernetworks.org
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   Yay, Kurt and co!
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11:03:22 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:

   Welcome to Humanity Rising ay 324 - Let's a;ll be healthy and form networks to help the planet stay healthy, too.

11:05:49 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:

   Welcome to Humanity Rising Day 324 - Let's all be healthy and form networks to do the same for everyone and the planet, too.

11:07:31 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   Yes, Stanley. A lovely welcome.

11:07:48 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:

   See the listings covering "Health" on OtherNetworks: ::https://othernetworks.org/Category:Issue-Health::

11:08:28 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Greetings, All, from Kamloops BC, traditional lands of the the Secwepemc. Please include everyone here in the chatbox so we can see what you say!

11:09:53 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:

   Thank you, Rita.

11:14:19 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:

   You can see the list of programs that Lars and David lead on Lars' page: ::https://othernetworks.org/Lars_M%C3%BCnter::

11:15:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Welcome Caroline! Great to hear of your work!

11:17:57 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   👍

11:18:40 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   Will have to catch the recording later. Grateful for this series on health.

11:22:05 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:

   Woohoo! Yes!

11:23:07 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Kate’s work is very special here! She has a course available through UU.

11:23:50 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Doughnut Economy!! Thanks Caroline!! Spread the word. It's a very  real alternative (for those who have trouble seeing anything else). And actually, a gentle change!!

11:24:41 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   It works because it can be flexible. It can be adapted by all!!

11:25:52 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   A good tool is adaptable! Kate’s donut is that, and a fun concept.

11:26:15 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Indeed Shannon xxx

11:26:59 From Caroline Whyte to Everyone:

   Thanks, Shannon and Diane! I really love the doughnut model. We’ve put it in our Theory of Change in Feasta: ::https://www.feasta.org/theory-of-change/::

11:27:04 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:

   now I feel like eating a doughnut

11:29:46 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   I wish someone would mention it to our PM (UK). He's about to head COP26 but is still playing the old game. And this week, news re CO2 problems causing loss of access to fertiliser and fizzy drinks and instead of cheering and encouraging less consuming (grabbing the moment) he has agreed to fund the CO2 company. Ooooops!!

11:31:29 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   We could be saving the planet!!! Yaaaay!! (Then we could have a donut to celebrate hahaha)

11:32:05 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Universal Basic Income would be easier to administer.

11:32:11 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Different basic incomes - great idea!!

11:32:38 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   (Altho yes, UBI is my fave too xxx)

11:34:28 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:

   infancy for sure

11:34:39 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   We better be quick!! Lots of people worldwide in a far worse state than Louisiana (or Europe)

11:34:43 From Caroline Whyte to Everyone:

   CapGlobalCarbon could help to fund a world-wide Universal Basic Income!

11:34:46 From Jane Norton to Everyone:

   the U.S is still in pre-school!

11:35:14 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Brilliant Caroline!!!

11:36:20 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Some older peeps are Elders - they have wisdom - there is some (to share with those active young ones)

11:38:01 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Do you mean 'head in sand' will mean they don't notice and we can be free to do helpful stuff and make real change

11:39:49 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Mental health also needs help worldwide!! Love is the answer. Give love and you'll feel better. Give love and others feel better too xxx

11:43:47 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Isn't it the case that those in the halls of power are representing us, the people? There are some - Caroline Lucas (UK): AOC (USA) There are more of us

11:47:08 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   It's a time of magic!! Rise above reality and work for the dream!!! We CAN save the planet!!!

11:47:21 From Mohammed Haque to Everyone:

   Hi Good Morning hope every person in Good Health and have a peaceful life, , We have been doing advocacy and campaigning to restore democracy and human rights in Bangladesh, Kindly assist our campaign email: peaceandjusticealliance@gmail.com; Peace And Justice Alliance, Canada Thanks

11:48:01 From Rodger Heard to Everyone:

   start with your connection by learning to love yourself your connection to source knowledge is what we should depend upon not foolishness that is being broadcast at this time.

11:50:31 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Yes Rodger. Love - yourself, then family, friends and neighbours. Then place. The planet! All life on earth!! Love is the answer!!

11:51:19 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   In fact, Universal Love could fit well with Universal Basic Income, couldn't it

11:51:54 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Sounds good to me, Diane!! If only we could prescribe it!

11:51:57 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:

   Let’s continue to spread more LOVE and Helpfulness. They Work Wonders... When we “work it”… We know what happens when we regularly focus on what we want.    

   Always look on the Bright Side of Life. Be the Sun in someone’s life. Focus on what we want like the laser beam focuses energy… Be like beautiful flowers for people to see in their life.   

   On this Special Day, let’s start practicing this psycho-somatic-spiritual Meditation that can greatly help, In just 15 minutes: ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo::.  “Peace in Everything, Everything with Peace” will reverberate throughout the day… making it the focus and bringing us more peace and also for ‘others.’ Be the PeaceMaker radiating Peace.   

   Thanks for Being the Hope of Humanity in your own inimitable manner.  Living Simply so that ‘Others’ may Simply Live.   

   When you are inspired, please feel free to collaborate with the Peace Lab, OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab   

   Have a magical day creating the Grandest Version of Your Greatest Vision!

11:52:59 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   More forests!! Absolutely!  On a good note!

11:53:11 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:

   Pachamama Alliances Vision statement, Create an environmentally sustainable, spiritually fulfilling, socially just human presence on Mother Earth. :)   

   Pachamama.org Alliance presents workshops for this and Drawdown. Paul Hawken’s book, DRAWDOWN, illuminates the 100 BEST ways to REVERSE GLOBAL WARMING, #6 is Educating Women!    

   The Awaken the Dreamer, Change the Dream 2 hour online course is free: ::https://landing.pachamama.org/awakening-the-dreamer-2-hour-online-course::

11:54:07 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thanks Kurt, great link

11:55:30 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:

   We know that people are getting stressed out having to deal with the effects of Covid/lockdown on themselves and a their lifestyles. Fears of resurgences, lockdowns, infections, loss of employment, etc. Stress causes immune deficiencies thus greater susceptibility to illnesses, accidents, and worse ~ suicides. The mental AND emotional health of ALL in our social system must be a priority.    

   There are several primary practices that are extremely effective in ameliorating all of this. Each only take 60-90 seconds  and may be alternated or stick to the one’s that work for you… Roller Coaster Fingers, Trauma Tapping Technique, Karate Kid Koncentration Technique, Switching, and PeaceMaker Meditation to name a few. They are each valuable and easy to apply to everyday life. It can be instructed online Zoom style trainings. Contact me if this interests you.

11:56:07 From Caroline Whyte to Everyone:

   Here’s the Feasta/EHFF podcast that Mike mentioned in which John Sharry and others discuss the mental health impacts of the environmental crisis: ::https://soundcloud.com/user-589284216/living-well-in-the-face-of-climate-and-ecological-crises::

11:56:34 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you, Caroline. Interesting

11:56:44 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Yes, Lars. The more mental health sessions the better!! For the planet. For ALL LIFE. We could meditate (and even do EFT) for the planet as well as individual groups/countries/tribes: for forgiveness so we can 'clean up' the trauma. BRILLIANT IDEA!!!!!

11:57:30 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:

   Get it into the Prison systems too… The trauma reduction…

11:58:41 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   As long as the Earth wins… we have a chance. If She loses, so do we.

11:59:55 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   There's a whole load of stuff related to prisons in the UK today Kurt. Time for massive change to ALL institutions.

12:01:00 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   And convincing 'the people' - as time goes by, there are more who do understand. We need to change the way we live. It just takes our leaders to lead us!! That's why - "Please PM. Investigate Donuts"!!!

12:02:40 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   We need a new way. Yes,2020 and  the pandemic supposedly gave us some insight. Now, 2021, we need seeds for change!!

12:03:22 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:

   Great book called

12:03:29 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   We ARE panting seeds for change!! Just make sure our thoughts are helpful!! And tone down consuming!!!

12:03:30 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:

   Beautiful Constraints

12:03:58 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   When you’re as tall as a toddler, falling doesn’t hurt that much. We are falling from a great height - it is liable to hurt a great deal. So let us get creative about how we save ourselves and help our planet receive us more softly.

12:04:36 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Exactly - quality of life came when we had less. More has led to fat people (me hahaha)

12:06:26 From Caroline Whyte to Everyone:

   Interesting point, Shannon! (Though I don’t think everyone is at the same height!!)

12:06:58 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   David, I appreciate your opinions.

12:07:45 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   The closer we are to the Earth, the less it will hurt when we fall!

12:08:31 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:

   Richard, Have we dispensed with the live link to the program on You

12:08:35 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:

   tube

12:09:09 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:

   Have we also dispensed with the live link on Facebook?

12:09:29 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:

   THANK YOU AL:L FOR YOUR EZFFZORTS. They will bear fruit in time! Sorry,I get to another meeting for our Humanity Rising program on Friday, Character Inclusion for Regenerating Societies. Please feel free to attend and offer any expertise you have with the Peace Lab. OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab. It includes the Health and Environmental issues affecting Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace.

12:10:35 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:

   Will we be able to have a recording for people to watch later?

12:11:02 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   This is the first time ever that everyone in the world knows about everyone else and so much more. It's also eth first time ever in the history of the planet that we are all able to communicate with each other. The pandemic was a gift - it stopped all our ways of life and gave us chance to think and see and maybe turn the ship (as Lars said). It's just whether we, human beings - all of us, decide to change our way of living. Again - our leaders are supposed to lead us but - if they don't we can still make efforts (and small changes) ourselves. This was the very thing that Jim used to say about Humanity Rising. Time to grab the moment and change

12:11:41 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:

   Rick, may I have access to capture the chat?

12:12:38 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:

   Yes re: health and though what about getting to the tone at the top and how large food companies are putting addictive aspects in our foods. I think for the environment and food industry, a lot of changes could happen if the largest companies changed. We are literally fed convenience, addicting food, etc. and propaganda that it’s about us making the wrong choices. Not at all saying we have no responsibility - of course our personal choices matter, but I believe our large industrial complexes and governance dependence on such is up for change and all of these transitions could occur more easily. If plastic is not available, I’ll bring my own bags… etc.

12:12:55 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:

   Are there other alternative hosts where we can send people to view the replay?

12:13:12 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Mental health first - healthy mind, healthy body!! Then - stop processing food!!

12:14:10 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Yes, Katherine, I've enjoyed not being able to go to supermarkets. We're all human and therefore are attracted to the stuff they sell!! And it's killing us - and the planet!!!

12:15:00 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:

   Yes, keep them in the ground. Agree, the economic systems will also be required to change, including our politics and policy as a whole… love that - universal perspective.

12:15:22 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:

   Rick, are  you there?

12:16:36 From David Somekh to Stanley Pokras Pokras, Host and Panelists:

   Stanley, Rick is off and Georg is standing in for him

12:17:40 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:

   Thank you for the amazing efforts on that work!

12:19:47 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:

   Georg, there seems to be no live presentation of today's program which people can view later. Is there an alternative?

12:20:50 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:

   Georg, can you make me a panelist so that I can capture the

12:20:56 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:

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12:21:30 From Hilary Van Welter to Everyone:

   My sense is Code Red is demanding us to reimagine ….including the preposterous

12:21:35 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:

   Rick has been going that for me each day.

12:21:47 From Hilary Van Welter to Everyone:

   Bring out our 5 year olds!

12:22:08 From Georg Boch to Stanley Pokras Pokras(Direct Message):

   done

12:22:27 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Georg Boch(Direct Message):

   Thank you.

12:23:15 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   “Out of the mouths of babes…”

12:23:17 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Georg Boch(Direct Message):

   Now, do you know what has happened to the live show on YouTube and Facebook?

12:23:48 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:

   I'm here! id : 845 8842 5906

12:24:08 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Yay, Julie!

12:24:27 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   We're out of sorts because we shop in supermarkets and life is encouraged - like you say - we go for 'cheap'!! Crazy!!

12:24:49 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:

   Yes thank you for mentioning the food industry aspect… System change, agree.

12:25:28 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Cheap is the fruit from the trees in your backyard - we have them but so many ignore the fruit that has fallen for us.

12:25:39 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   *That life (using supermarkets) Yaaay!! System change!!!

12:26:06 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Better to lose the business than lose the planet tho!! We need to remind them!!

12:26:37 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Sigh. It’s been a slice, gentlemen. Thank you for coming and sharing your “bleak outlook” and your hope.

12:26:59 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Thank you indeed!!

12:27:03 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Georg Boch(Direct Message):

   Will you be posting a video replay somewhere?

12:27:08 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:

   Appreciate each of you and this wonderful discussion - thank you so much. So glad to hear the work being done and ideas being discussed and acted on - Thank you!!!

12:27:27 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   At lest we know there are like-minded people!!

12:27:55 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   And we can all do our best, can't we!!

12:28:07 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:

   Yes Jim, that’s an interesting observation and I agree - feel that personally.

12:28:15 From Georg Boch to Stanley Pokras Pokras(Direct Message):

   Yes tomorrow morning it will be on YouTube, ubivverse and facebook

12:28:26 From Joy Gilfilen to Everyone:

   We are one whole living system...and do not forget that we can infuse the energy of vitality, love and hope throughout our organisms around a living world.  It takes focus, potential and remember, we are energy in motion.

12:28:45 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:

   Thank you!!!Important to exchange all these ideas!!!Acknowledging what is in front of us..in and out..helps us embrace and step forward. Mystery is at hand...New solutions on their way.!!

12:28:59 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   And that energy is LOVE!!!

12:29:29 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Join us in the AfterChat so we can continue the conversation…

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12:30:40 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:

   Thank goodness every year the 3-5 years we have befire its too late for humans on earth... moves forward 1 year each year! In 2020 and every yr prior for a awhile we have heard we have much less then 10 yrs! Maybe only 2!

12:30:58 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Georg Boch(Direct Message):

   Thank you. I'll mention that in my daily report.  I send out a daily email that links to the OtherNetworks day page for the current episode. Send me an email address if you wan to receive this report.

12:31:00 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Would love to join you for the After Chat but yet again - another thing to do (two things actually. Phew!!)

12:31:20 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:

   Would love to go to chat...but I have meeting of my NGO...up north in Chapada Diamantina, Bahia/Brasil, where we are focusing in nature and community. I will be in touch

12:31:41 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:

   1970's!!!

12:31:42 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   Yes. some of us have been 'on it' since 1965!! I remember!!

12:31:56 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:

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   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

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12:32:13 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:

   We heard this growing up in the 60'S and 70's right?!

12:32:20 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Host and Panelists:

   Politicians have tended to choose “getting elected” over telling people the inconvenient truth and making controversial changes.

12:32:22 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:

   Yes thank you, Jim. Also, to note, I keep seeing governments speaking of 2050 - argh!

12:32:39 From Joy Gilfilen to Everyone:

   There are breatharians.  And there are already millions dying.  And there are solar flares coming in with more light than ever...and our human organisms can receive, converge, convert and relearn how to transmute our energy through our hearts....  Both and all are true.  We all can choose to actively change how we deal with anger, pain, hurt and fear...we can turn it into a desire to team, to rally, to do things that are an adventure to find out how fast we can change the world.  That is the question today.  How fast could we respond if we focus how could it be done if we didn't know it was not possible?  What if we were in fact working with Mother Nature instead of fighting with her?

12:32:40 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Can we breathe methane?  We could just suffocate…

12:33:01 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Host and Panelists:

   But the China pledge to stop funding coal plants (even if just  abroad) is huge!

12:33:24 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   I love your perspective, Joy.

12:33:48 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Host and Panelists:

   Joy

12:34:20 From Mike Sandler to Everyone:

   U.S. EPA is issuing a new rule to phase out HFCs from air conditioning etc, today. A step in the right direction.

12:34:24 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:

   So - work with Mother Nature - as much as poss!! Right now!! And keep our minds full of love and helpfulness. Easier said than done but...….. Love Love Love!!!!

12:34:48 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Now would be a good time to institute UBI… what good is money in the pockets of the rich to them if they cannot breathe?

12:36:42 From Peg Kuperman to Everyone:

   Shannon ..this has been my exact question for years...no understanding possible in this 'un'conscioudness

12:37:10 From Joy Gilfilen to Everyone:

   Let's not unite with fear...lets unite to the challenge we have to learn how to team up in extraordinary ways with regeneration and a vision that we can revitalize our systems.

12:37:15 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:

   UnCloud-csousness

12:38:47 From Savanah to Host and Panelists:

   Many humans will have to leave the planet before regeneration will be able to effectively move forward because it’s humans that counteract the benefits of regeneration already in operation.

12:39:21 From Joy Gilfilen to Everyone:

   If it could be done...how could it be done?

12:39:33 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:

   Note.... The live stream for this program is off. The replay should be available tomorrow.

12:39:46 From David Somekh to Savanah, Host and Panelists:

   Its an uncomfortable fact we've been side-stepping but I happen to agree

12:39:47 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:

   Jim:

   Spirit-Nature Masterminds will win Jim! It needs not to be proportional or mathmatically equal. the Divine Intellagence can make these changes in and trhough Humanity and Nature!

12:39:47 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Let us unite to meet the challenge together - holding to each other we create a raft from which to save each other from the wreckage of the system that has held us while we’ve grown past the capacity of our environment.

12:39:49 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Host and Panelists:

   Ending the waste and desecration of militarism would be a tremendous re-balancing of our globe.

12:40:11 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:

   My partner’s car was just submerged in NJ. We also have had to buy water there (Newark’s water system) for a couple of years because they can’t seem to fix the problems. Just noting that climate change is showing up in many ways - some are obvious - the fires, floods and hurricanes, and many I don’t believe we even hear about… of course especially when speaking of lower income areas. I agree the climate movement hasn’t had much affect up until now. Thank you for all of these comments, Jim, and for this COP coming up! Agree such an awareness - NOW - is necessary!

12:40:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thanks, Stan, for keeping an eye on things, and all that you do.

12:40:36 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Host and Panelists:

   Indeed, climate change is the greatest threat to our homes --our security. Not only will military actions not solve that threat, military production of greenhouse gases is a primary driver of that harm.  Yet, the globe’s militaries enjoy impunity from reporting their greenhouse gas emissions, unlike every other entity.  If you don’t measure it, you can’t tell if you’re changing it.  The upcoming UN climate change conference, COP 26, could change the international rules to require military reporting.  You are invited to sign this petition ::https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/stop-excluding-military-pollution-from-climate-agreements-2/::

12:41:39 From John Sharry to Everyone:

   I recommend the work of deep adaptation  (Jem bend all) and Active Hope ( Joanna Macy) as a means of finding ways of dealing with existential crisis

12:42:16 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   John, Joanna Macy is wonderful!

12:42:17 From Joy Gilfilen to Everyone:

   What if we inspire each person who has any circle of influence...to change 1 degree and do it repeatedly, this accumulates fast; and the springboard it creates is the compound shift.

12:42:45 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:

   Is thie COP? ::https://unfccc.int/process/bodies/supreme-bodies/conference-of-the-parties-cop::

12:42:46 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:

   Yes Joy!!!

12:42:50 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Sometimes 1% is the tipping point…

12:42:53 From Mike Sandler to Everyone:

   Of course we'd like to grow the climate movement, but we need people to accept a climate dividend from the revenues brought in by a carbon price on fossil fuel companies. We called it Cap & Dividend, but in some ways it could be advertised as Dividend & Cap.

12:43:09 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Georg Boch(Direct Message):

   Georg, thank you for taking the helm today. The chat people are among your biggest fans.

12:43:39 From Caroline Whyte to Everyone:

   Some information here about the COP: ::https://www.climatechangenews.com/2021/09/06/cop26-matter-guide-glasgow-climate-summit/::

12:43:56 From Caroline Whyte to Everyone:

   ..and about CapGlobalCarbon: ::https://www.capglobalcarbon.org::

12:43:57 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:

   thanks Caroline!

12:45:47 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:

   Georg Boch is hosting the presentation today. Richard Buckley is away. Thank you Georg!

12:46:09 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thanks, Georg! New challenges!

12:48:25 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:

   I agree regarding restoration, and also, how do we stop the current development. I am often in SC and the downing of trees for building - without regulations and standards for not just trees and ecosystems but even infrastructure - is MIA. It is frustrating. That said, of course, leadership and new economics would make a difference. Yes I have emptied the room LOL  Thank you for these final comments - again so appreciate each of you. I appreciate hearing about this CAP carbon solution …

12:48:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thanks for doing the work you do, Mike. Down with doom and gloom - up with $1000

12:48:41 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   It’s comforting

12:48:51 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   So would UBI, be

12:50:03 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Intentional Change… we should talk about that!

12:50:57 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   What needs changing and how do we make the change?

12:51:36 From Julie Wolf to Everyone:

   Intentional Change (Joy G) sounds familiar!

12:52:31 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:

   Yes I agree - I see Stop the Money Pipeline doing so much. - our youth and the digital events seem to add pressure!

12:53:21 From Janice Hall to Everyone:

   We need to start addressing the root causes of illness. 78% of covid deaths are the obese… the agricultural systems,  GMO - non-food foods sold as food, pharma drugs with side effects that make people sicker - insurance doesn't cover the preventative health. People would be more available to help with climate change if we address the underlying sick systems. I came in late so not sure if you mentioned regen ag and carbon drawdown

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12:53:38 From John Sharry to Host and Panelists:

   thanks for the invitation to speak today , on the subject of personal choice and choosing what is important, I need to go to take my son to his soccer training.. !

12:53:40 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:

   Dear Jhn, Croline, avid and John, the Chatpeople publish a daily report with links to this recording and chat and the Afterchat's recording. Send me your email Stan@othernetworks.org

12:53:45 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Yay, Kurt and co!

12:53:54 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:

   Thank you!

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