Meeting summary for ChatPeople AfterChat Zoom (06/20/2024)

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Back to: HR!Day946 - Thu 6/20/24 Day 4: Songwriting, Creativity and Leadership - Paul Kwiecinski, Judi Neal & Spring Cheng

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Quick recap
The group engaged in a discussion about various topics including the use of music as a therapeutic tool, the significance of the Pentatonic scale in music, and the benefits of communal singing. They also shared personal experiences and beliefs regarding the transformative power of music, the impact of prenatal language exposure, and the importance of unity through singing. The conversation ended with plans for a future gathering to further discuss a documentary film and the decision to transfer all 800 episodes of the afterchat from Blue Host to YouTube.
Next steps
• Stanley to share the process of transferring host privileges to Spring for the next meeting.
• Spring to test the host transfer process with Stanley before the next meeting.
• Lynn to assist Spring as a co-host during the next meeting.
• Diana to research and share information about the documentary film "Of the Voice" with English subtitles.
• Participants to explore and share resources related to singing, music, and the voice.
• Participants to reflect on the importance of singing and music in personal and cultural contexts.
• Participants to consider ways to encourage and support singing and music in their communities.
Summary
Diversity, Zoom, and Music Performances
The meeting involved a discussion about various topics, including a reference to the book "Here Comes Everybody" and its theme of managing diversity in a rapidly connected world. There was also a discussion about the use and setting of Zoom for music performances, with Judi sharing her experience and concern about not being able to see control buttons during a webinar. Stanley offered assistance and encouraged participants to ask questions, indicating an open and supportive environment.
Transitus Labyrinth and Fetal-Maternal Relationship
Sheila and Spring discussed the use of the transitus labyrinth as a teaching tool to help people understand the transition from the Cenozoic to the Ecozoic era. The conversation also touched on the mutual relationship between the fetus and the mother, acknowledging that the fetus has an impact on the mother through the umbilical connection and that the mother and fetus are in a co-regulation. Judi added that recent research shows that the genetic combination of the mother's and father's DNA persists in the mother's baby after birth, highlighting the permanent bond between the two.
Circle Singing, Therapy, and Family Music-Making
paulcurtishillery shared his experiences with circle singing and its therapeutic benefits, particularly in the context of dealing with personal loss. Stanley brought up a historical band leader who testified before Congress against the record player, believing it would hinder family music-making. The group engaged in a discussion about the importance and benefits of communal singing, with Judi sharing her experiences in a music-centered upbringing in Hawaii. The conversation ended with an acknowledgment of the need to facilitate collective Resonance through singing.
Discussing Pentatonic Scale and Tonal Languages
Judi, Spring, and diana discussed the Pentatonic scale and its significance in their music. Spring mentioned that their early music was heavily influenced by the scale, reflecting their Chinese cultural roots. diana, who had experience with tonal languages in Asia, pointed out the unique tonality of the Pentatonic scale and lamented that it is often discouraged in Western music education. She also raised a question about the impact of tonal languages on singing capabilities, noting that people born into tonal languages can produce the tonal variations more easily due to constant exposure. Spring and Paul agreed with diana's observations, highlighting the distinctiveness of tonal languages.
Overcoming Fear and Shame in Singing
Spring, diana, and Paul discussed the fear and shame that discourage people from pursuing their creative passions, using singing as an example. Paul spoke about his own experiences singing in different languages and the deeper connections he formed with the music. Judi then shared her strong belief in the transformative power of music and singing, citing an instance where she helped someone discover their singing talent, which had a profoundly positive impact on their life. She emphasized that everyone has the ability to sing and urged people to find their voice and express themselves through music to promote joy, liberation, and self-discovery.
Prenatal Language Exposure and Parenting Experiences
The group engaged in a discussion about the impact of prenatal language exposure on a developing fetus. Sheila shared a study indicating that preborns prefer their mother's voice and dislike having stories read backward. Judi shared her personal experience as a new mother during the Manhattan Project and how she sang her first lullaby to her son. He even mentioned writing a musical based on Alice in Wonderland. The group seemed to enjoy reminiscing about the influence of music and language in their parenting experiences.
Singing Together for Unity and Connection
Paulcurtishillery emphasized the importance of singing together as a means of fostering unity and expression. Stanley shared a story about a tribe that sings a baby's song to the mother during pregnancy, which is then passed on to the community when the baby is born. Mark, reflecting on his experience teaching English to immigrants and refugees, shared how singing together helped create a sense of community and connection. Niaz, in turn, shared his experience with Iranian music and poetry and offered to share a recording of a recent performance. The group actively listened and engaged with Niaz's performance, highlighting the emotional Resonance it brought to the meeting.
Song Interpretation and Emotional Impact Discussion
Niaz led a discussion centered around the interpretation of a song's lyrics. Niaz explained the metaphor of the bird flying in the sky and its shadow, suggesting that this symbolizes the human perception of truth. Niaz then inquired about the emotional impact of the music on the listeners, particularly Spring. diana briefly contributed to the conversation with a mention of seasonal interviews and her work, but the main focus was on the song's interpretation.
Discussing 'The Voice' Documentary Film
diana shared her fond memories of the Filipino hit song "Anak" and its universal appeal, with Hyacinth and Lynn appreciating its rhythm and healing qualities. She also introduced a documentary film titled "The Voice", which she described as a fascinating exploration of the human voice from various perspectives. The film features a Swiss trumpeter who showcases his skills using his voice instead of his instrument, along with a person who helps individuals bring out their voices and a Brazilian singer who can sing two notes simultaneously. Despite some technical difficulties, Stanley and Spring showed interest in the film's content.
Future Meeting and Host Transfer Process
Spring and Stanley decided to arrange a future meeting, with the time to be confirmed by email. They discussed the process of transferring the host role during the meeting, with Stanley guiding Lynn through the process and planning to resolve any remaining confusion in a follow-up call, with Paul's assistance. Meanwhile, the rest of the group expressed their gratitude and indicated their attendance for the future meeting, with the exception of Linda, whose attendance was not confirmed.
Documentary Film and Afterchat Transition
diana and Stanley discussed a documentary film, with Stanley attempting to access it but finding only a database and synopsis. They decided not to install additional software to view it at that moment. The pair also discussed the decision to move all 800 episodes of the afterchat from Blue Host to YouTube due to issues with Blue Host and the potential for unlimited storage and cost savings with YouTube. Concerns about platform changes and hacking were also raised, and there was a brief mention of an upcoming class reunion.
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