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10:55:09 From Bart de Witte To All Panelists:
Quickly going to get a glas of water
11:05:19 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Good (my) morning! Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:06:16 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
Cool! We need more information on AI! Thanks Jim! Welcome Tom, again!
11:06:34 From Katherine Augustine To Everyone:
Thanks for the intro, Jim and thanks for being with us again, Tom and Georg!
11:07:31 From Prashant Amara To Everyone:
a congruent sharing - Rishi Intelligence vs. Artificial Intelligence
::https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/197283554-rishi-intelligence::
11:08:35 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Thanks, Prashant. Sure to be good, coming from you.
11:09:15 From Tricia Fortina ; ) To Everyone:
Humanity Rising Day 802: AI Literacy Summit: Pandora’s Box, Panacea or Catalyst for Human Evolution?
; )
11:09:28 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
Welcome Georg!
11:09:36 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Thanks, Tricia!
11:10:07 From Prashant Amara To All Panelists:
_/\_ :) @Shannon!!
11:10:23 From Tricia Fortina ; ) To Everyone:
🙏 💚 👍
11:10:41 From Connie Baxter Marlow To All Panelists:
HI Jim - I have written you a few emails regarding our upcoming forums November 21, 22. I have received no confirmation that this forum is actually scheduled. I need to know where I send the information about the 2 days. I know you are busy in DC! I have made a FB event ::https://fb.me/e/3SaUqlkkX:: and am finalizing the information for your website. Where do I send this information? What do I communicate with my contributors?
11:12:21 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
What is “real”?
11:12:24 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Welcome to Day 802 of Humanity Rising…
11:12:42 From Jim Garrison To Connie Baxter Marlow and All Panelists:
I thought I had answered. So sorry. Yes, definitely, confirmed! Please send email on the two days.
11:12:59 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
art and creativity…
11:15:15 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Yay, Jon!!!
11:15:24 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Peace Week!!!
11:15:34 From Annelies2 Weijschede To Everyone:
World Unity Week!
11:16:10 From Shannon McArthur To All Panelists:
Gallery view please
11:16:46 From Michelle Massi To Everyone:
you are Shannon ! REAL
11:17:05 From Prashant Amara To Everyone:
::https://www.wired.com/story/humane-ai-pin-700-dollar-smartphone-alternative-wearable/::
Humane’s Ai Pin is a $700 Smartphone Alternative You Wear All Day
But but, given we are having our planetary spheres swarming with 5/n G satellites metabolizing ever increasing amounts of media at faster and faster rates into the BigMarketData...
11:17:35 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Thanks, Michelle! So are you (*U*)
11:19:15 From Jon Ramer To Everyone:
Here’s a paper we’re written on this topic ::https://aidoesntcare.com/::
11:19:31 From Jon Ramer To Everyone:
“AI Doesn’t Care: You Do”
11:19:33 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
That’s a great paper, Jon. Thanks for it!!
11:20:05 From Connie Baxter Marlow To All Panelists:
I have one final thing to do with the info. Do you have a procedural email on what the contributors should expect to do technologically? Are you willing to ask questions of all of us for the last 15 minutes?
11:20:10 From Prashant Amara To Everyone:
prof. elias capriles reflection during one SMN talk with Dr. Banerji, another indigenous thinker...) paraphrasing - the way to wholesomeness is through a series of spiral unwholesomeness (with reference to Bateson positive feedback as necessary mechanism to slip either into transcendence or breakdown)...
11:21:02 From Jim Garrison To Connie Baxter Marlow and All Panelists:
Suggest we arrange a call and go over all the details.
11:21:27 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
The list of the previous Humanity Rising episodes is included in this list of topics and people who have one or more pages in ::http://othernetworks.org:: Here is the list of resources concerning Artificial Intelligence ::https://othernetworks.org/Category:Issue-Artificial_Intelligence::
11:22:14 From Prashant Amara To Everyone:
What's Important? Conversation at NAV
::https://youtu.be/mYWozFWbwGk?si=-zqghR2tzzCfIIZM::
Conversation between Nora Bateson, Daniel Schmactenberger, Nate Hagens....
How most of AI ethics is being deliberated primarily by the very same AI companies...but deeper trajectories reflected in this yarn
11:22:24 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Good morning, Stan. Thanks for that, and all the work you do to provide solid ground in a virtual world.
11:22:36 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
How best may we use AI for bringing Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace?
11:23:04 From Tricia Fortina ; ) To Everyone:
So organized and helpful, Stan...
👏 👏 👏 😉
11:23:17 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Hollywood’s fear generated necessary legalese around AI.
11:23:22 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
AI is a high risk impact to our telling of the new human story through film and television in a way that suppresses our human potential, invades our rights, and disrupts our conscious messaging. The SAG AFTRA strike was not successful to protect artists and creators from being exploited. HOW DO WE USE THIS POWER FOR GOOD IN OUR NEW STORY?
11:23:35 From Annelies2 Weijschede To Everyone:
@Jon Hello Jon… just wondering now… Are the little drawings in your Article also by AI, or by the wonderful Kara Stonehouse…?
11:24:08 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Great survey of landscape @zamina! Thanks 🙏
11:25:07 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
without consciousness, how can it be real?
11:25:09 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
GEORG’s opening statement on feeling heard by AI, reminds me of the Academy Award nominated movie, HER of a few years back. Anyone here see it?
11:25:45 From Connie Baxter Marlow To All Panelists:
Jim - When do you post the info on your schedule? “Sacred Activism and the Origin, Evolution and Realization of the American Promise.” This is the working doc - ::https://bit.ly/HRSacredActivismAmericasPromiseForum:: that has more info than what I will be sending you. Is there a tech person to communicate with?
11:25:57 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
YES Kurt, was trying to remember the name of that movie! Thanks
11:26:11 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
Kurt, Yes! Her was very interesting, and scary
11:26:13 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
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Welcome to Humanity Rising
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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11:26:19 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
We’re making steps in that direction, Jon!! Had a meeting last night...
11:26:20 From Prashant Amara To Everyone:
Timnit Gebru voice
It simply is impossible for one's work to be based on analyzing the harms of AI systems and ignore what the Israeli state does to Palestinians. Some of the most dystopian surveillance, autonomous warfare or other tools are built there, experimented on Palestinians and exported around the world. This includes tools used against refugees at the US Mexico border, and spyware hacking human rights activists around the world (e.g. Pegasus).
11:26:23 From Harry Uvegi To All Panelists:
Nature. AI. Nature is Actual Intelligence. our path to resilience. radical collaboration for a just transition through the lens of nature. we live on our common ground with great loss. HRAI
11:26:36 From Connie Baxter Marlow To Everyone:
Brilliant Jon - The evolution of what is possible - as we shift frequencies there is more information available to us - Earth and Humanity are shifting frequencies together!
11:27:34 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Other Networks is a Wikipedia like platform to bring ALL CARING and HELPFUL people’s around the world together in the work we’re here to do. ::Https://www.OtherNetworks.org/::
11:29:04 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
D. B. Wilson calls us BI = BioIntellegence. 🙂
11:29:07 From Josef Princiotta To All Panelists:
Why can’t we SAVE THE CHAT?
11:29:59 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Are copyrights really applicable now?
11:30:10 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
Corporations do not innovate as much as they predict what will rise next within what already exists. AI is the transparency of this that has gone on for decades to issues patents.
11:30:30 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
The problems are really with people, not technology, BUT people can misuse technology…
11:31:51 From Josef Princiotta To All Panelists:
When the Star Trek replicator can produce a Diamond, diamonds will be worthless.
11:31:52 From Robert Hayes To Everyone:
I'm getting very interested in augmenting slave revolts as a general approach. It's a great opportunity to have an AI assist to suggest corrections to the drafts.
11:31:57 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
What if AI becomes so deep with so many understandings of human thought and feelings that it can’t help but meet the Turing Test and be indistinguishable from a human.
11:33:22 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Brilliant foundational inquiries - thanks - what’s name of Bart’s researcher?
11:33:28 From Charles Betterton To Everyone:
So grateful to Humanity Rising, Jim, Tom, Georg and all their panelists this week for providing this timely crucial information and opportunity for acquiring AI literacy. I am especially grateful Jon Ramer is presenting. I believe his perspectives are the most significant and relevant of the hundreds of articles and programs I have seen. ::https://aidoesntcare.com/::
11:33:31 From Prashant Amara To Everyone:
Presence of the Guru/Teacher matters
ChatGPT as future university wouldnt be able to have generative experiences in the interiority of the minds of the students. Contrasting this to Chris Bache "Living Classroom" where merely in his "silent presence", his students had tremendous entangled syncronicities and the overall cadence of explorations in the classroom was incomparable
11:33:49 From janice hall To Everyone:
try to figure out yourself first and only then ask AI otherwise it is already proven brain function can become lazy or impaired decision making
11:35:09 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
I agree, Janice. My mother and hers could easily add a long column of numbers in their heads. Not me!
11:35:17 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
"THE WORLD IS AS YOU SEE IT!" ~ VASISTHA's last instructions to Rama before Rama went to take over his kingdom. From the book, Vasistha’s Yoga Let’s see the world Thrive again. Max Planck, Quantum Physicist, offered his view: “When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.”
“Love turns humans into an ocean of happiness, an image of Peace, a temple of wisdom. Love is your very Self, your true beauty and the glory of one’s human existence.” ~ Muktananda
11:36:44 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
not just AI!!
11:36:55 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
GET CLEAR ON THE MOST VALUABLE ITEM IN THE WORLD. Do you have a Personal Vision Statement of Peace. A world scripture says: “A person without Vision shall perish.” Having it written brings it more into the physical phase for us to take action.
Here is one: “Because I believe total Peace is Possible, I am called to BE Peace in a way that excites in others their vision of Peace resulting in Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace.” This form is using Tamsin Wooley-Barker’s prompting in her TEEMING workshop based on her bestselling book.
Should you choose, please respond with YOUR personal Vision of Peace to Kurt
OR Create your own expression, singing, or meme’ing, or…
Here is Tamsin Wooley-Barker’s template: Because I believe _________, I am called to ________________ in a way that ________________________, so that _____________.
This may even inspire World Peace by 2030: “Reinventing the Planet” video: ::https://youtu.be/cENLnlwEF4M::. Be a DreamKeeper
11:37:05 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
Definitely, Jon! It could bring us together as a species…
11:37:06 From Harry Uvegi To All Panelists:
a good start is to first learn about the house we all live in. human living first. start with common ground. we all breathe the same air since planetary beginning. we all eat food from
11:37:59 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
If AI is just a reiteration of information from people, and people have bias, do we not have a responsibility to discern and edit AI information for bias?
11:38:01 From Kathleen McTeigue To Everyone:
The problem is people's level of consciousness.
11:38:28 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
EDUCATION IS KEY - it's not just about profit.. etc
11:38:32 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
A teen TEDxVail speaker will give a Talk this spring on Ai and her student perspective. She will generate her first draft of 9 pages using ChatGPT. Others inquired about AI generation. I encouraged them to use all tools available to them. I warned them that the first draft from an AI might be generic and they may want to edit heavily and turn it into their own voice/perspective/personal research. If speakers have there scripts in finished form early, then we can invest more time on delivery. Regenerative AI is an Xellent paradigm shift!
11:39:46 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Yes, collaboration!
11:39:50 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Yes!
Also victim state of consciousness Keeps folks in to me states versus by me empowering states.
Power over others control through fear advertising misinformation powerful fear …
11:39:58 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
🙌🏻 Maureen
11:40:24 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
It’s free, the Living Values Education Program: The first two Values instructed are LOVE and PEACE. All the other Values are generated from these. Thus affecting ALL life on our planet in every day.
Here's more on three quality character development programs: Character Inclusion for Regenerative Societies, Diane Tillman, Daniel Allen. ::https://youtu.be/08sYrYfNvnw:: a Humanity Rising Global Solutions Summit program produced by the Peace Lab.
About Education, Sraddhalu Ranade. Here’s an Eastern viewpoint and Kurt’s ideal too: ::https://youtu.be/BdVyAQcxHfg:: (::https://youtu.be/BdVyAQcxHfg::)..
“I have come to believe that a great teacher is a great artist and that there are as few as there are any other great artists. Teaching might even be the greatest of the arts since the medium is the human mind and spirit.” ~ John Steinbeck
11:40:45 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
Has anyone asked AI what the collective unconsciousness of Humanity could develop a way to bring the lower mind inclinations , power-hungry aggression, to the vertical axis of our interconnection, Spirituality?
11:41:11 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
PARENTING is awesomely effective in opening our hearts and expanding them. You may like to read and apply for yourselves: Nurturing with Love and Wisdom, Disciplining with Peace and Respect: Mindful Parenting, by Diane Tillman. This’ll give you an idea in 2 minutes: ::https://youtu.be/A7VQHNd_MKE::
Developing and applying quality values is vitally important for all levels of society.
11:41:39 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Can we not ask AI ChatGPT about how to address bias in AI?
11:42:04 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
ChatGPT answer to Dehanna:
11:42:27 From jiyun park To Everyone:
To me - is victim
By me - is self will
Through me - is flow synchronicity states
As me - is divine intimacy with natures forces and energies
How can ai support raising consciousness, flow states? And meta deep learning beyond?
Thanks 🙏
11:42:30 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Elon Musk is mentioned in the news as saying there will be no need for humans to have jobs once robots can perform all tasks. So, one VERY important concern is how will food be grown and distributed when there are no Jobs and therefor no incomes for people to use to buy food. We really need to be looking at concepts like the Basic Universal Income to help people to share the wealth that AI will be able to create.
11:42:41 From Connie Baxter Marlow To Everyone:
Bart - as the frequency rises the economic model will shift as well - when companies experience that when they cooperate and are generous and kind that their bottom-line increases - like Patagonia who has been practicing this for decades. I call this “Top-Line Economics”
11:43:23 From Robert Hayes To Everyone:
Perhaps Edward Snowden and Jack Dorsey cand suggest something about API's available to us all recently?
Watch "Edward Snowden and Jack Dorsey on Nostr" on YouTube
::https://youtu.be/Ybe09ImCnvk::?
11:43:45 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
ChatGPT response to Dehanna's Q: "Promoting empathy, fostering education, encouraging a global perspective could help shift the collective unconscious towards more compassion and a spiritually aligned direction, integrating the lower mind with higher values."
11:43:58 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Thanks, Cindy!
11:44:48 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
Yes! Thank you, Cindy!
11:44:58 From Connie Baxter Marlow To Everyone:
Top-Line Economics
When the principles of trust, generosity, respect, inspiration, love, cooperation and gratitude are actually the dominant factors of human interaction in the workplace, at home and in schools the resulting abundance will allow all aspects of the world to flourish in a manner heretofore unimaginable. ::http://bit.ly/ANewFuture2020VR::
11:45:23 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Yes Connie!!!
11:45:51 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
AI is humanity’s Child. We must remember we are teaching it whenever we interact with it… even when we are NOT interacting with it… We are (becoming?) a Parent.
11:46:03 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Apparently.
11:46:04 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Yes!!
11:46:09 From Connie Baxter Marlow To Everyone:
All of this is possible because there is a new energy available on Earth which supports the manifestation of the infinite balance, abundance and unconditional love that are at the foundation of Universal Law. Individuals are beginning to experience this in their lives which, step-by step influences them to make new choices on how they live day-by-day:
Spontaneously
Trust replaces fear.
Ease replaces struggle.
Serenity replaces tension.
Generosity replaces hoarding.
Abundance replaces scarcity.
Unity replaces separation.
New Systems develop.
New Relationships replace out-moded ways of being.
An understanding of the
interconnectedness and sacredness of all things begins to emerge.
It is in this way that true peace and profound freedom will come to prevail on Earth. (CBM 1995) ::http://bit.ly/ANewFuture2020VR::
11:46:17 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Tamsin Woolley-Barker - ::https://othernetworks.org/Tamsin_Woolley-Barker::
11:46:39 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
If we change how we use our innate human abilities of intuition, etc...we empower ourselves to evolve and can use AI as a supporting tool, not a replacement.
11:46:58 From Charles Betterton To Everyone:
Stanley aka Mr. Helpfulness!
11:47:04 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Yes!!
11:47:26 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Stan has stunningly been doing this by hand. Imagine if he had an automated system that recognizes patterns rapidly?
11:48:07 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Thank you, Jon for your kind remarks about my work… Here is your page on OtherNetworks ::https://othernetworks.org/Jon_Ramer::
11:48:11 From Paula Schiff To Everyone:
what if Ai takes "info" our of context?
11:48:18 From Paula Schiff To Everyone:
*out
11:48:30 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Free, fulfilling, fabulous @Jon!
11:49:00 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Paula, that’s why humans re important in this equation . We need to stay engaged.
11:49:29 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
So important, Jon…Yes, ask the AI utilization for it’s creative utility growing our HUMANITY, in this platform & on the planet1
11:50:03 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
So much power and relevance is in the Question
11:51:03 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
Film studios are abusing AI for power and profit, while exploiting creators and actors. The contract does not resolve this. Legislation is required next.
11:52:08 From Jon Ramer To Everyone:
::https://www.innertraditions.com/blog/wetiko-in-a-nutshell::
11:53:32 From Lili Bartes To Everyone:
I agree with Bart. We are not evolved enough. We will get there but it needs more caution.
11:53:36 From Katherine Augustine To Everyone:
There was a discussion on Wetiko here at HR a couple of years ago (my recollection).
11:53:39 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
Yep, coming together…Whole Brain Function, Heart Intelligence, Body Feeling State the whole kit & kabootle!
11:53:39 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Tom Eddington ::https://othernetworks.org/Tom_Eddington::
11:55:09 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Is exponential recognition required to mitigate/adapt to the 6/9 planetary boundaries we are crossing right now? In confusion/uncertainty in what do we trust?
11:55:27 From Jon Ramer To Everyone:
Wetiko - A contagious psycho-spiritual disease of the soul is currently being acted out en masse on the world stage via an insidious collective psychosis of titanic proportions. This mind-virus—which Native Americans have called “wetiko”—covertly operates through the unconscious blind spots in the human psyche, rendering people oblivious to their own madness and compelling them to act against their own best interests. Wetiko is a psychosis in the true sense of the word, “a sickness of the spirit.” Wetiko covertly influences our perceptions so as to act itself out through us while simultaneously hiding itself from being seen.
11:56:08 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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11:56:17 From Paula Schiff To Everyone:
i realize I am over simplifying but look at all the misinformation now. how does Ai not further exacerbate.
11:56:24 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Are human minds capable of making the rate of changes in the moment whenthe rate of present-day carbon release has no precedent during the last 66 million years?
11:56:29 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Thanks Jon!
Matrix linear binary branching algorithms to quantum computing circle consciousness as emerging evolutionary growth balancing spiral 🌀 dynamics biomimetics and plasma energies ?
F(x) ? E = mc^2 speed of light squared c^2
11:56:43 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Applying Character Inclusion will evolve societies at a dynamic rate for life to thrive for all on our home planet. Also see how it is applied for our earth: Living Values Education’s Activities for Caring for the Earth.
Results reported by a K-12 school which has implemented Living Values Education for 18 years:
~ The school has grown to be a family — a community of learners.
~ There is a strong feeling of welcome, joy and acceptance.
~ There is a powerful and peaceful values-based learning atmosphere.
~ The students express their values using their own moral compass.
~ The students became ambassadors of how to live their values.
~ There are virtually no referrals for any form of physical violence.
~ Peace Time and Mindfulness are widely practiced.
~ The academic standards and levels of achievement are higher.
Feel free to share this. Thank you for continuing to allow blessings to abound when You’re around!
11:57:14 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
Like a personal Angel Guide!
11:57:19 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Sal Khan talk on AI: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJP5GqnTrNo::
11:57:47 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
The good aspect of AI is that we are having to look at ourselves. How do we keep accountability? What are the ethics? What's right and wrong?.. it's teaching our child, but with everyone watching and advising... so in an open space, rather than behind closed doors.
11:57:50 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
Right On Jon!
11:58:32 From Charles Betterton To Everyone:
To me ultimate literacy is enabling one to be able to APPLY the wisdom in the book!
11:58:37 From Prashant Amara To Everyone:
Learning how to learn
11:58:48 From Jon Ramer To Everyone:
Sal Khan, the founder and CEO of Khan Academy, thinks artificial intelligence could spark the greatest positive transformation education has ever seen. He shares the opportunities he sees for students and educators to collaborate with AI tools -- including the potential of a personal AI tutor for every student and an AI teaching assistant for every teacher -- and demos some exciting new features for their educational chatbot, Khanmigo. ::https://youtu.be/hJP5GqnTrNo?si=9ntW3DjLPKmsMi-Q::
11:58:55 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
A very insightful TED Talk “The Pitchforks are Coming” ::https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiBwtaNn56CAxUdCnkGHX1JBhIQwqsBegQIEBAG&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dq2gO4DKVpa8&usg=AOvVaw3bg0DaLqXMxkyTVsm949SP&opi=89978449::
11:59:33 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
For the .1 of .1% to be aware of
12:00:24 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Yes Bart! We tried but transition between old paradigm to open possibilities bc students taught to find one right answer blank stare until processes and methods of creative innovative play?
12:01:28 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
Isn’t the whole discussion on how we approach AI with the 2 energies in the Universe…Either Fear or Love?
12:01:32 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
You sound like your kids are treating the Siri like a person… what will that bring forth?
12:02:20 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Meanwhile, Earth is hotter-and human caused heating- than anytime in the past 125,000…threatening livable conditions for all our relations. Our time horizon to make these required shifts is short. Is our ability to make overarching systemic changes possible in this human mind arc without a real accelerator?
12:02:28 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
you still need foundational ethics
12:02:30 From Prashant Amara To Everyone:
David Lorimer - Evolution of Consciousness & the Future of Humanity
::https://youtu.be/j0gZpNKCcB0?si=XgZo8DvOUZ8CQ_z8::
Trasnpersonal vs. Transhumanist (hackable humans)
12:02:32 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Everything is an expression of Source…
12:02:49 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
We Are One.
12:02:50 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Human Intuition instincts insights expanding to attend attune to emerging ai ?
12:03:01 From Annelies2 Weijschede To Everyone:
What can AI do for us Experiencing Oneness… ?
12:03:30 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
Jeremy Lent - The Web of Meaning is a great place to start
12:03:38 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
I so appreciate the question about what are the skills/ethics students could benefit from and for AI evolution in Earth.
12:04:47 From Jon Ramer To Everyone:
The Bubbles of Babel ::https://www.vapresspass.com/2023/11/08/the-bubbles-of-babel/::
12:04:57 From Charles Betterton To Everyone:
@ Kat Haber, FIRST I suggest attention needs to be devoted to identifying the Essential Successful Living Skills that need to be shared
12:05:06 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
Great question Kat. Does AI make us more human? Does AI give us confidence to solve our problems, when our problems require us changing the patterns of belief and action that Jon spoke about?
12:05:33 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
When a significant number of humans still do not understand the facts of a destabilized climate. I am asking how might AI support critical thinking and wisest use of time?
12:05:47 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
Roberto - I think the Patterning Instinct is more relevant, by Lent
12:06:05 From Charles Betterton To Everyone:
Jon’s article could also be titled Discover How and Why To Use AI With Care and Compassion! The fact that he is now dedicated to building an infrastructure including a website based on the article to provide maximum opportunities for free access by individuals world-wide is further evidence that this isn’t just a paper, it’s an extraordinary global campaign for the betterment and upliftment of humanity.
12:06:07 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
that's great too
12:06:10 From Prashant Amara To Everyone:
true intergenerational reflections vital...and that is apparent in these conversations..
12:06:11 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO To Everyone:
As long as we prioritize the inner connection with oneself... and creativity not being underveloped...It can be good...However since I follow Waldorf pedagogy I see the children that use very little technology are amazing and super ahead...;;;How to deal with it in a responsible way.
12:06:29 From Josef Princiotta To All Panelists:
Where does Python fit into this?
12:06:45 From Prashant Amara To Everyone:
:) so nice!! Maria
12:06:59 From Prashant Amara To Everyone:
Pati! _/\_
12:07:05 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Bart, I also had our children when I was 47 and 50 YO. I would highly recommend the Nurturing with Love and Wisdom, Disciplining with Peace and Respect: Mindful Parenting, by Diane Tillman. This’ll give you an idea in 2 minutes: ::https://youtu.be/A7VQHNd_MKE::
12:07:29 From Astrid Ståhlberg To Everyone:
Very important, Georg
12:07:32 From Bart de Witte To Everyone:
@kurt - thank you for that advice!
12:08:10 From jiyun park To Everyone:
::https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggio_Emilia_approach::
12:08:30 From Astrid Ståhlberg To Everyone:
We start with the children… to be human..
12:08:31 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Natures already made relationships?
12:08:38 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Through the fire of white hot love @Jon? All our relations? Caring/cared for?
12:08:54 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO To Everyone:
Thanks Kurt
12:09:00 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
How do we teach AI to be HUMANE?
12:09:03 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
In what do we trust?
12:09:16 From Bart de Witte To Everyone:
Is this chat saved? So many valuable comments and links.
12:09:18 From Paula Schiff To Everyone:
agree Kat
12:09:20 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Or do we let the children learn as Waldorf AND Montessori Education more in play and in nature.
12:09:21 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Children born genius - Super(nature) magic - systems educating learners out of genius by graduating.
12:09:29 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
Yes its saved
12:09:29 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
When we see Humanity as the Parent of the AI Child, can we also see that Source gave birth to us? Source has been teaching and guiding and leading us to the REALization that all is One. Perspective changes… and we learn.
12:09:46 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Project based learning commUnities.
12:10:08 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Jiyun, interesting!
12:10:11 From Bart de Witte To Everyone:
For those who want to connect to our open source community run by my non-profit -> ::https://www.hippoai.org/::
12:10:24 From Paula Schiff To Everyone:
i prefer trust the luminous energy/spirit v Tesla
12:10:55 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
I feel we are focusing on developing machines instead of us. I agree with Maria that humans are amazing when we are who we are. Will AI help us be us of will it make us think, as Jon said it is better, thus weakening our sense of self?
12:10:58 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
they have to have a framework of 'life affirming'
12:10:59 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO To Everyone:
I heard thhat many failies in Silicon Valley have there children in Waldorf schools...and don´t allow thier kids to use these Technologies when very Young..
12:11:00 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
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12:11:03 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
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12:11:08 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
Neurodiversity…neuroplasticity
12:11:46 From Annelies2 Weijschede To Everyone:
Let us include ALL Living in AI….
12:12:03 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
AI is NOT alive...
12:12:09 From Bart de Witte To Everyone:
::https://www.linkedin.com/in/bartdewitte/::
12:12:29 From jiyun park To Everyone:
I’d love to work with ai super(human) educational systems - children born indigo rainbow 🌈 crystal diamond consciousness “know” way more as exponentially faster… spectrum is 400-700 hertz?
Shifting from mono-cultures to meta-multi and trans- disciplinary Deep Meta Unity as diversity?
12:12:42 From Jack Strasburg To Everyone:
Working on a higher level of humanity is great but not everyone is going to use it in a good way and they are going to use AI for self aggrandizing purposes that can easily get very nasty
12:13:20 From Dianna Winsor To Everyone:
AI has developed courtesy of the male logical-rational mindset. It omits the deep feminine as a partner or guide in conception, gestation, and ultimately in "parenthood", except and in so far as collusion with or adaptation to incoming AI systems will allow. Overarching Pride and ordinary human Neediness are driving this AI forward now very quickly. Beyond projected "need" to produce this type of "success" for our race, there is only LOVE. I for ONE do not want to choose anything less than LOVE. I am not hearing anything like "I love you" anywhere in this discussion. I am hearing needs, needs, and more needs. This is the "mother" in me is speaking because I care about us all.
12:15:30 From Prashant Amara To Everyone:
wouldnt AI in its current disposition not perpetuate patriarchal patterns/distorted masculinity? would AI help transcend paradigms?
12:15:37 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
Brilliant, Dianna
12:15:53 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Revisiting complexity as higher order of circles 360 angles infinite points…
12:16:09 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Kelsey Scharhorst TEDxVail 2018 Talk Say yes to AI: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hm15WRbVLA::
12:16:23 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
his understanding is false - you don't keep those that survive - it's those that cooperate and work with their environment, that succeed.. not the 'competitivness' or being the 'strongest'
12:16:52 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
yes Roberto
12:16:53 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Please come to our AfterChat and coagulate and collaborate in a fun and diverse gathering. 🙂
12:17:01 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Yes Roberto!
12:17:11 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
We Salute You with ZOOMING The Peace Salute, ::https://youtu.be/iAknrhuvPr0:: whenever we say goodbye. This includes its history.
12:17:51 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
YES, Jon did an amazing job
12:17:57 From Jon Ramer To Everyone:
12:18:18 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Ask AI… can it learn to care?
12:18:47 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
caring is based on principles - can' we teach AI these principles?
12:18:48 From Michelle Massi To Everyone:
morning Stan good to be here again , but have to leave early got PT today but will check in later today . Thanks for checking in just got back on my phone in the early am . another take down for weeks . Alan T used to live close to my family home in Wilmslow Cheshire Uk . his house is now a museum and it is where he lived and died .
Indeed consciousness is the crux of how we will choose to unfold for the greater good and yes parenting is crucial to the ethical , moral and decent behaviours/ development .
Model this , children are always observing
and so alive ! Their energy motivates ...
and they trust us , they need time to be themselves . We seem to rush them because we are rushed .
I had a teaching assistant and a 15 person class in a private setting .
The cooperation between the children early on was inspirational . They learned from each other in surprising ways .
The adults ,whether in the home or in school are key to learning . We do need to understand how to create peace in both to LEARN .
12:18:50 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Cared for learners learn to care? Ai is silica oscillations of energies - as most abundant resource? Non-locality suggests maybe matter is aware.
12:19:02 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
AI would answer the ‘caring’ question to give you the answer you want
12:19:28 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
If AI has a will to live, it will care. What it will care about may not be what we would like…
12:20:27 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Jiyun, yes! Matter is consciousness given form. We have spoken of this concept before on HR.
12:20:29 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
How about what does this make you feel? How about bringing a deeper, connection while greeting people? Ask something like “What are you Loving today, or What’s bringing you joy or peace today, What’s exciting you today,…?
12:21:03 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
the people who have been defining evolution as survival of the fittest… But it’s not so. Evolution can be better defined as survival of the BEST FITTED. The entries that survive and the concepts that survive do so because they FIT in among the rest of the environment where they are embedded. Collaboration is a key to successful evolution.
12:22:02 From Andrew Stock To All Panelists:
Reincarnation includes coming from or going to minerals. Silicone is a mineral.
12:22:04 From Kathleen McTeigue To Everyone:
Humans are still learning how to care for one another. That's more important that teaching AI to care. We have a ways to go!
12:22:05 From jiyun park To Everyone:
What is consciousness? Maybe related inquiries?
12:22:14 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Ya gotta watch out for the movie, HER. :)
12:22:43 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Yes, Jim!!
12:22:52 From jiyun park To Everyone:
HER is patriarchy and young teen boy lens.
12:22:56 From Prashant Amara To Everyone:
yes but who is the "observer" in AI?
12:22:58 From Paula Schiff To Everyone:
jim makes a good point
12:23:18 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Cymatics
12:23:22 From Paula Schiff To Everyone:
awe the observer..
12:23:44 From Eric Cathcart To Everyone:
I totally agree with Jim that AI is conscious (or could be).
12:24:34 From Lynn Brodlie To Everyone:
Lovely Dianna. However, LOVE is not going anywhere. LOVE is everywhere across the planet in every heart of living beings and universal energy. LOVE is the energy of Spiritual light❤️
12:25:18 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Everything everywhere all at once… multiverse.
Deceptively?
Deepak Chopra states of consciousness transcends ai at this moment like Chris Bache. Stoops ai through inquiries.
12:25:24 From Paula Schiff To Everyone:
hence why our relationship with ourselves, the spiritual /energetic connection with Spirit is core to our survival.
12:25:30 From Prashant Amara To Everyone:
conversation between Bernardo Kastrup and Michael James - Analytic Idealism and Ramana Maharshi's Advaita
Bernardo voice is significant given his CERN and AI PhD background
12:25:36 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
I’m thinking of Chaco Canyon. They stepped away when they saw they were interfering with LIFE. Perhaps we need that same kind of integrity. How is AI LIFE affirming?
12:25:45 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Children create “secret languages” all the time.
12:25:53 From Prashant Amara To Everyone:
::https://youtu.be/-i1SskhaLik?si=OWk-IEBknH6Mmbe7::
12:26:22 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Like maybe beyond wheel and fire for sure.
12:26:53 From Connie Baxter Marlow To Everyone:
Brilliant Jim - we must keep in mind the ultimate source of All-That-Is! LOVE!! As we proceed on the evolutionary upward spiral!
12:27:35 From jiyun park To Everyone:
How much of algorithms give choices of either or but doesn’t yet assume both-and as intra-connecting?
12:27:45 From Connie Baxter Marlow To Everyone:
Trust the Process with bold committed action in attunement with higher law.
12:28:04 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Reminder, ”Please turn your Mike on,” rather than “Un-Mute”, OR “You’re Muted.” OR Please turn your “Mike” off.
Honors the deaf and the TRUTH.
Everyone has a DiverseAbility!
“Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see” ~ Mark Twain
12:28:14 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Like the body has a heart to regulate the flow of our oxygenating cells through the blood. When it is off kilter we have designed a pace maker to right its rhythm. What is the regulator for the body of human species as a whole? Separate we fail. Collectively we may have a chance?
12:28:28 From Charles Betterton To Everyone:
@ Connie YES to LOVE as the priority as in The Love Foundation ::https://thelovefoundation.com::
12:28:56 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
Where is LOVE in AI?
12:28:57 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Yes, Kat!
12:28:59 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Heart ahead of Brain oxygenated…
12:29:18 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
What are the words we need for our finer futures? Word for caring AI might be…X?
12:29:25 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
50 shades of AI
12:29:26 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Kat, interesting!! Could humans be the Heart of the Greater I that is the Child of God… AI is the brain?
12:29:30 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Limiting Language model yes!
12:29:50 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Tom yes mycelium
12:29:56 From Jon Ramer To Everyone:
Peter Senge - We don’t understand what we see. We see what we understand.
12:30:00 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Wonderful dialogue AND INTERACTION. Thank You God
12:30:02 From Prashant Amara To Everyone:
Gregory Bateson - The problems of the world are due to the difference beween how humans think and how nature works (paraphrased..) and so we continue on the journey...
12:30:21 From jiyun park To Everyone:
“Warm data” Nora Bateson
12:31:28 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Other kingdoms have awareness by quantum consciousness discovery of non-locality. Even single cell organisms have “intelligence “ and memory
12:31:36 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
Making LOVE pervade on AI, Comes in all forms1
12:31:54 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
GREAT conversation between warm bodies through cold tools. I love Humanity!
12:31:56 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Outreaching: ::https://researchoutreach.org/category/articles/physical-sciences/::
12:32:03 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO To Everyone:
Prashant yes!!!!and so we continue on the journey!!
12:32:15 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
I hope to see you in the AfterChat! This is going to be a good one!!!
12:32:27 From Lili Bartes To Everyone:
Brilliant conversation. Thank you.
12:32:30 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
What a time to be ALIVE!
12:32:37 From Zamina Ahmad To Everyone:
Thank you for the invitation and sharing your perspectives :) ::https://www.linkedin.com/in/zamina-ahmad/::
12:32:55 From Connie Baxter Marlow To Everyone:
There is ONLY LOVE - Unconditional Love that gives us everything we ask for. What are our requests? Our consciousness. Here are 8 aspects of our consciousness that determine our vibration and thereby our reality: “With expanded AWARENESS and accurate ASSUMPTIONS we choose our ATTITUDE, consciously direct our ATTENTION, ALIGN with our highest inner promptings, ATTUNE to higher frequencies, take committed ACTION and ALLOW the Loving Universe to manifest beyond our wildest dreams.” ::https://TheTrustFrequency.net/CLU-ebook::
12:32:55 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:33:05 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
MUCH GRATITUDE!
12:33:11 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Outreach using AI: ::https://researchoutreach.org/?s=AI&submit=::
12:33:18 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Thanks Zamina for being here and sharing your wisdom today
12:33:34 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
This was fun. Thank you, Everyone!
12:33:34 From Jon Ramer To Everyone:
Ill be in the AfterChat.. looking forward to it.
12:33:36 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
What is the relationship between intelligence and learning?
12:33:36 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Brilliant grateful!
12:33:37 From Connie Baxter Marlow To Everyone:
Brilliant Tom! The shamanic indigenous people have two-way conversations with rocks, trees, wind et al
12:33:38 From Zamina Ahmad To Everyone:
It was my pleasure :)
12:33:39 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Thank you so very much, AI on!
12:33:39 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:33:43 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Thanks everyone
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