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Humanity Rising Day 645 Chat Page   –   Friday March 3, 2023

Text of the Zoom Chat from Humanity Rising Day 645

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11:01:36 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!

11:02:34 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:

   I’m excited for “The Pathway to Peace”!

11:07:09 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   What is the pathway to peace…? That is the topic for this Day 645 of Humanity Rising

11:09:40 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

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               Welcome to Humanity Rising

               With Love...          

               Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.          

              You can join the After Chat here:       

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               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

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      We’ll post this notice several times…

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11:10:39 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Jim, I feel your perspective of Europe being a vassal of the USA is disrespectful of them. They have been holding ground and pouring their love into their land for thousands of years. The USA is a bully, and is learning from its actions, as we do.  I believe we need to see what is happening and rise above it. It is in the name of the program we are part of. Humanity Rising can only be if we DO rise above the “reality” that surrounds us. Breathe and believe… trust that the learning is happening, and humanity will emerge, wise and coherent.

11:14:13 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Much gratitude to you, Jim & Jodie, for your perspective & amazing week! So informative, Blessings 🙏🕊🌎

11:14:46 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Thank you, Shannon… It is important to respect our allies as well as speak truth to power.

11:17:58 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:

   No disrespect intended but US control of all of Europe is now a fact. US is building bases and deploying nuclear weapons in Eastern Europe as they have in Western Europe. It is a very sad reality, doubly so since there seems to be little awareness in Europe that this is happening and that the war in Ukraine is a disaster for them. We are convening this Summit to help wake people up to the reality.

11:19:17 From Alice Sturm Sutter to Everyone:

   Enormous thanks to all of you! When we speak out against this war, we are told that we are emboldening Russia and thus preventing them from negotiating. This is silencing would be activists. How do you address this?

11:20:05 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   Please explain removal of Russia-leaning President Victor Yanukovych in 2014. American coup or genuine wish of majority of Ukrainians to ally more closely with Europe after generation of Russian oppression?

11:20:11 From Janet Wallet-Ortiz to Host and Panelists:

   Agreed Jim... so sad but true

11:23:13 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

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   Once registered, you may join the hour weekly PeaceMakers MasterMind Circle/Network.

11:24:24 From Janet Wallet-Ortiz to Host and Panelists:

   Just FYI, l called my senators yesterday and one clerk told me she was getting lots of calls about ending the war —at Senator Lujan’s office New Mexico

11:27:11 From Jan Krick to Everyone:

   It occurs to me that perhaps the first step is the three largest economies, with the largest nuclear arsenals in the world, China, Russian and the US, must sit down and discuss an end to nuclear weapons and existential threats of world war. Don’t we need treaties that confirm those goals first?

11:32:39 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Exactly the “Giant Money Laundering Machine”…Peace is cheaper!

11:33:32 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Wow thank you so much for this information

11:34:09 From Maha Khan to Everyone:

   You can learn more about the Peace in Ukraine coalition here: ::https://www.peaceinukraine.org/::

11:34:33 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Is All of this Aggression serving the Sociopathic Master on the planet? Against Humanity?

11:35:05 From Marcy Winograd to Everyone:

   Take Action ::https://www.peaceinukraine.org/proxywarukraine::

11:35:25 From Marcy Winograd to Everyone:

   Take Action ::https://www.codepink.org/ukrainetanks::

11:35:29 From Maha Khan to Everyone:

   View 10 Ways the War in Ukraine Threatens Our Environment: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=UWf_hI-8NJA

View:: talking scripts, flyers, banners, buttons and more: ::https://www.peaceinukraine.org/rally_resources::

11:36:23 From Maha Khan to Everyone:

   Tell Congress to investigate the Nord Stream sabotage: ::https://www.codepink.org/investigate_nordstream::

11:36:26 From Marcy Winograd to Everyone:

   Take Action ::https://www.codepink.org/investigate_nordstream::

11:36:38 From Lynne Franks to Host and Panelists:

   Hello from UK Medea - so happy to see you again after all these years. You are such a hero!!! Love Lynne Franks

11:37:33 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   When the US agreed to “not move NATO one inch to the East, why was it not on paper?

11:38:55 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Is there a Indigenous ceremony to bring balance to ALL the aggression & replace with coherence & mutual harmony? Like Planetary Dance from Anna Halpren?

11:39:02 From Marcy Winograd to Everyone:

   Want to host Medea on her book tour? Or host a living room chat after viewing her outstanding video (based on her book: War in Ukraine: Making Sense of a Senseless Conflict)--Sign up here: ::https://www.codepink.org/ukrainebooktour::

11:42:14 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Richard, one thing that was noted earlier this week is that the Russians “trusted” the U.S. and Europe to keep to the concept of not expanding NATO.

11:42:21 From Marcy Winograd to Everyone:

    Medea, Wei and I wrote this article: "Why Biden snubbed China's Ukraine Peace Plan" ::https://countercurrents.org/2023/03/why-biden-snubbed-chinas-ukraine-peace-plan/::

11:44:52 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thanks, Marcy.

11:47:30 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Where can we see news reports showing protests in Europe?

11:49:57 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   Prayers for Daniel Ellsberg, just diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, who responded: “I work best under a deadline”

11:50:34 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Oh, Dear, Daniel…Blessings 🙏

11:50:48 From ruth burnett to Host and Panelists:

   What is the amount of US dollars spent on war in Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Ukraine to date?  I believe the number mentioned the other day for Iraq and Afganistan was 21 trillion $. This number could be very persuasive on placards and in interviews but needs to be accurate.

11:51:47 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   That’s quite a deadline. Sending blessings…

11:54:03 From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Everyone:

   In my article about Fear and Projection as the root causes of war, I wrote that “War is perhaps the deadliest game that humanity has created.  The conflict itself represents what appears to be opposing views about the way things should be.  Each side believes that it is right and that its actions are justified.   Each side therefore seeks to impose its views on the other or to defend its views against the other.  Each side fears the other as an enemy and each side projects its fears onto its perceived ‘enemy.’”   In my humble view, a path to Peace ultimately cannot be materialized with a Consciousness that involves “good guy vs bad guy” narratives as Truths, that cast the U.S. (Biden, etc.), Russia (Putin, etc.), or Ukraine (Zelensky, etc.) in “good guy vs bad guy” positions.  So, yes, “balanced education,” “authentic communication” and breaking down fears and projections among all relevant parties (diplomacy & negotiations) are paramount actions for creating a climate for Peace.

11:54:25 From Marcy Winograd to Everyone:

   Bravo, Medea!!!

11:54:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   War is not the answer! Thank you, Medea.

11:54:59 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   The argument discouraging dissent is that we need to show “the Russians” that we are committed to get them out of Ukraine “as long as it takes” as a way to avoid more bloodshed.  In other words, present a united front to get them to change.  How stupid do we think the world is?  They’ve seen us bring bloodshed and then betray allies in Vietnam,  Laos, Afghanistan, Iraq, (Syris is ongoing and complicated) ….  Why would words and pretense now be convincing when we have such a history of similar betrayal?

11:55:03 From Marcy Winograd to Everyone:

   You can read Medea and Nicolas's book in two sittings--it's riveting.

11:55:22 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   With Love...          

               Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.          

              You can join the After Chat here:       

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               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

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      We’ll post this notice several times…

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11:55:24 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Can we talk about the $ being poured into the Special Interest pockets & how to reverse this money mongers?

11:56:11 From Chris Toussaint to Host and Panelists:

   Arrest Victoria Nuland!

11:56:19 From Marcy Winograd to Everyone:

   Poll showed half of Ukraine did not support the coup. ::https://www.kyivpost.com/post/7889::

11:57:33 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Bizarrely, conscripts are doing the “fighting” on both sides.  What if they could be offered $500 and safe passage to a location of their choice?  Who would be fighting?

11:57:45 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:

   Thank you for all this great info!  I can’t thank you all enough.  I am on my way to a peace activist group in

   Taos (45 miles downwind from the Los Alamos National Laboratory birthplace of the atomic bomb and current plutonium pit modernization).  I bought Medea’s important book and hope that we can all rise on behalf of Daniel Ellsberg in tribute to his life on behalf of truth, justice and for peace in a world without nuke bombs.

11:58:44 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Blessings on your efforts in Taos, Jean.

11:59:50 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Bless you, Jean, for all you do and all you are!

12:00:40 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   If you want this chat emailed to you, send me your email address. The ChatPeople publishes a set of links to the Humanity Rising program and chat and the AfterChat recording and Chat from that session.

12:01:45 From Andrew Cameron Bailey to Everyone:

   Challenging times, friends! Keep the faith. Trust the Loving Universe!

12:01:57 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:

   Stan. I gave u my email sometime ago…haines.elizabeth@gmail.com

12:02:40 From Michelle Massi to Host and Panelists:

   Today I heard on NPR the sanctions are not working and Janet Y. says that Turkey and the UAE are both being used by Russia to take supplies for Russia and send via their different modalities what ever Russia requires as far as supplies that are banned by the USA, food and material goods etc. There are so many ways every governing body has to circumvent these kind of sanctions politics make strange bedfellows and the art of the possible. We are so not making sense here and our policies are yes Imperialistic and if you take a look at history and see what has become of the UK who once ruled trade and half the world. Sad story relegated to the state of their current inability and inept political machine.  We need to send women to negotiate who are engaged in a way that Peace is the only way forward and in a non violet way . We as women are vested in all the world’s children because we alone birth the entire world’s population . It is time we were applying the wisdom we truly embody /are. Pink negotiations YES Pax

12:02:45 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Anybody remember the Crimean War?  The charge of the Last Brigade?  May this be the “last charge” of using war as “statecraft” — so self-defeating in a world of climate change.

12:03:21 From Jodie Evans to Everyone:

   Join us on International Women’s Day to say #IWDEndWar and join our webinars that day to hear from women globally on their calls for peace ::https://www.codepink.org/iwd2023::

12:04:29 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Thank you Elizabeth. I may have missed your message. But will add you to the distribution today. The links to the OtherNetworks wiki cover all over 600 episodes of Humanity Rising.

12:05:03 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Per Tennyson’s Light Brigade poem … may we bring enlightenment to this insanity

12:06:10 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   I believe that the neo-conservatives a front for the oligarchs who have hoarded the wealth in the world, especially US.

12:07:04 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Here is a searchable list of all Humanity Rising episode titles. ::http://othernetworks.org/SLHR::

12:07:25 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Add fossil fuel wealth to the Military industrial complex — quite an entwined set of special interests

12:08:54 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   I believe that the intent of fossil fuel wealth to drill in the melted Arctic is a factor in the effort to “regime change” Russia.

12:11:18 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   I was going to say, so many conflicts of interest - but yes, seems like we’re at the point of pure corruption

12:11:44 From Janet Wallet-Ortiz to Host and Panelists:

   Stan what is your email?  I am scrambling to write it all down

12:12:48 From Chris Toussaint to Host and Panelists:

   Only a spiritual awakening can get us out of this hell

12:12:51 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   The war comes home with the former combatants — condemned to great life limitations, problems with intimacy and trust—even if no visible injuries.

12:13:30 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Our local headlines say the US is helping to “Target Crimea.”  How is this not an act of war?

12:13:56 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Are those targets not also Ukrainians? What insanity is this?

12:14:06 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   The Lewis Powell Memo: A Corporate Blueprint to Dominate Democracy ::https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/democracy/the-lewis-powell-memo-a-corporate-blueprint-to-dominate-democracy/::

12:14:40 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   I will join - sent the letters alreayd

12:14:47 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   *already

12:16:30 From Janet Wallet-Ortiz to Host and Panelists:

   Stan my email is bluegold54@gmail.com

   Please send me a copy of the chat!

12:17:25 From Marcy Winograd to Everyone:

   Pls email me if you'd like to join our coalition. Marcy@CodePink.org

12:17:53 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:

   how do you spell Victoria last name?

12:17:57 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Corporate power was amplified by the Citizens United decision. The 2010 Supreme Court decision further tilted political influence toward wealthy donors and corporations ::https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/citizens-united-explained::

12:17:58 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   It is screamingly immoral to kill Ukrainians/Russians to gain domestic political points.

12:18:09 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Nuland

12:18:18 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Nuland

12:18:45 From Marcy Winograd to Everyone:

   Push Jayapal!

12:18:57 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:

   Good Luck!

12:19:06 From Marcy Winograd to Everyone:

   Check out this CODEPINK video on Victoria Nuland. ::https://twitter.com/codepink/status/1352674891405778945?lang=en::

12:19:09 From Chris Toussaint to Host and Panelists:

   Progressives have to stop caving to neo cons and new libs

12:19:42 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   I suspect the progressives have been fed the lie that the US is fooling the world about sticking with Ukraine as a way to get the Russians to leave.

12:19:52 From Chris Toussaint to Host and Panelists:

   * neo liberals

12:19:56 From Jan Krick to Everyone:

   I push Jayapal and other progressives in Congress every day to re-send that letter. Please make those calls with me.

12:20:03 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Get on the Peace Train, Cat Steven’s 🎶

12:20:57 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.          

              You can join the After Chat here:       

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12:21:04 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   The US just plunged millions of our children back into food insecurity by discontinuing SNAP funds.

12:21:53 From Jan Krick to Everyone:

   This webinar has been incredible. If there is a Pulitzer for webinars, this week would tower over all others. Thank you; please don’t let it end here.

12:22:17 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Yep, Amy, we have such discombobulated values!

12:22:43 From Annelies2 Weijschede to Everyone:

   And I believe it could be… something good has begun! Oh Peace Train sounder louder…!b

12:22:58 From Marcy Winograd to Everyone:

   Cop City in Atlanta

12:23:48 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Bastardized continuously the Constitution needs to stop!

12:24:07 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Our $

12:25:11 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Over and over the US prioritizes senseless acts of mass violence.  Why are we surprised when it shows up in our schools and nightclubs?

12:25:15 From Chris Toussaint to Everyone:

   SNAP funds were not completely discontinued. Only reduced.

12:25:25 From Janet Wallet-Ortiz to Host and Panelists:

   Both right... amazing ideals but we have not lived up to the original American ideal of true democracy... genocide committed reverberates

12:25:26 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   ::https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/28/us/politics/food-stamps-benefits-decrease.html::   30 million lost benefits

12:25:50 From Jan Krick to Everyone:

   We must redefine ourselves, Amy and everyone.

12:25:53 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Insane model…money over life!

12:25:57 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:

   I live in Germany and asked constantly how the US coujd elect somebody like George Santos and let him stay in power. He”s great publicity for Putin

12:26:21 From Janet Wallet-Ortiz to Host and Panelists:

   Yes Amy... as of Wednesday millions of people are food insecure again

12:26:23 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Peace from within!

12:26:31 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Project for the New American Century:

   How One Think Tank May Influence American Foreign Policy

   by

   Ida Sofia Vaa ::https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwie6M-qo8D9AhVgEFkFHcB-Ah4QFnoECAoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.duo.uio.no%2Fbitstream%2Fhandle%2F10852%2F25398%2FFerdigxmasteroppgave.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1YPWvpktU3MgGQNsFz1vPZ::

12:26:46 From Janet Wallet-Ortiz to Host and Panelists:

   Exactly Jodie.  Exactly

12:27:03 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   Thank you Jodie, Jim, and all of the presenters this week for this information.

12:27:16 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   My father was in Korea.

12:27:31 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   These food insecure kids are also vulnerable to the lure of violence to get what they want.  Their society has failed them.

12:27:57 From Janet Wallet-Ortiz to Host and Panelists:

   Chris yes but major reductions

12:27:57 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Blessings & strength to All Peacemakers! 🙏🕊🌎

12:28:26 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Project for the New American Century ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century::

12:28:28 From Janet Wallet-Ortiz to Host and Panelists:

   Thanks so much to all

12:28:50 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   # what?

12:29:55 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Shannon, I lift up the stories of veterans and their families if you’d like to share it.

12:30:07 From Marcy Winograd to Everyone:

   codepink.org/codepinkcongress

12:30:11 From Marcy Winograd to Everyone:

   peaceinukraine.org

12:30:47 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Thank you Beautiful People 🙏

12:30:48 From Annelies2 Weijschede to Everyone:

   Intention appears to be something akin to a tuning fork, causing the tuning forks of the other things in the universe to resonate at the same frequency… (Quote Lynne Mc Taggert) Please let us end with the raise of vibration… peace in all of us, in everything, everywhere, here and now. Grateful for the wonderful work you do CodePink!

12:31:07 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Pink Jewels!

12:31:33 From Sarah Davey to Everyone:

   akin to a marimba !

12:31:33 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:

   That's the perfect description of Jodie and Medea--jewels, national treasures.

12:31:45 From Janet Wallet-Ortiz to Host and Panelists:

   Thanks so much for this week

   Thanks so much to codepink l have followed for decades

   Thanks Jim

12:31:50 From Jodie Evans to Everyone:

   ::https://www.codepink.org/iwd2023::

12:32:07 From Annelies2 Weijschede to Everyone:

   To @Sarah 🕊️

12:32:13 From Celia Anne Browne to Host and Panelists:

   Thank You So Much for this week

   Stark facts but so helpful & empowering too

   💖

12:32:19 From Marcy Winograd to Everyone:

   Thank you, Jim, Jodie, Medea and everyone on this call. I am so moved!

12:33:07 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

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12:33:11 From Jan Krick to Everyone:

   Thank you, Jm.

12:33:12 From Janet Wallet-Ortiz to Host and Panelists:

   Thanks to Humans Rising

   I salute all!  Inspiring!

12:33:13 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Much gratitude for this week! Spectacular 🙏

12:33:17 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

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12:33:19 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Annelie’s, breathe peace into the world with every breath!! Yes!!

12:33:25 From Jodie Evans to Everyone:

   Thank you Jim

12:33:38 From Medea Benjamin to Everyone:

   Yes, thank you Jim.

12:33:49 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   You can join the After Chat here:       

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12:33:52 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you all for being and doing all you can for peace3

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