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Humanity Rising Day 639 Chat Page   –   Thursday February 23, 2023

Text of the Zoom Chat from Humanity Rising Day 639

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11:09:10 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Welcome to Day 639 of Humanity Rising “Echoes of the Holocaust” Part 2

11:11:00 From Stan Pokras to Georg Boch(Direct Message):

   The youtube is not running. It’s says the webinar will start soon.

11:11:38 From Stan Pokras to Georg Boch(Direct Message):

   And people using the zoom link are not getting connected,

11:12:07 From Stan Pokras to Georg Boch(Direct Message):

   oops, the youtube is ok. it’s the zoom link that’s not working.

11:12:21 From Stan Pokras to Georg Boch(Direct Message):

   That’s why Shannon is not here.

11:12:36 From Georg Boch to Stan Pokras(Direct Message):

   Ups….fixed now

11:12:45 From Stan Pokras to Georg Boch(Direct Message):

   It just started. Thanks

11:13:22 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Good to be here - we’re Zooming now!  Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!

11:14:18 From Georg Boch to Stan Pokras(Direct Message):

   The Stream/ Recording works from the very beginning

11:14:58 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   Did it broadcast for you at 9:00?   I just got connected a minute or two ago.

11:17:01 From Georg Boch to Everyone:

   We had a zoom issue, the session started but folks didn’t seem to get in

11:17:09 From Georg Boch to Everyone:

   The YouTube steam started normally

11:17:24 From Georg Boch to Everyone:

   Sorry for the this…Zoom happens

11:18:02 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   Thanks Georg.

11:18:21 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Another great save by Georg!! Thank you!!

11:18:26 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Hey THANK YOU Humanity Rising for ALL your efforts, especially keeping us all online, on time, on critically important issues!  SO DEEPLY APPRECIATED!!!

11:19:33 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

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11:19:51 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   A person’s reach should exceed the grasp, or what’s a Heaven for? ~ Robert Browning

11:20:48 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

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               Welcome to Humanity Rising

               With Love...          

               Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.          

              You can join the After Chat here:       

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               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

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      We’ll post this notice several times…

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11:21:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you so much for speaking to us today, increasing our awareness of our history, helping us see ourselves and our ancestors more clearly.

11:24:42 From Georg Boch to Host and Panelists:

   Who is this second Ronnie that keeps on unmuting????

11:44:23 From Lili Bartes to Everyone:

   I'm sorry but I need to leave. Incredibly important topic.

11:44:49 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Oh thank you so much for sharing your story. I am in tears, too.

11:45:08 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Irene, what a story. My heart goes out to you.

11:45:24 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   No apology ever needed for your tears.  They tell the deepest story of all.

11:45:26 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Yes would like to see them

11:45:30 From Diane C to Everyone:

   Tears are beautiful!!!

11:47:39 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Oh these pictures - thank you!

11:48:46 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   Wow.

11:50:19 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Thank you for sharing the stunning beautiful pics of your family!

12:01:04 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Oh, thank you for sharing your family’s story.

12:06:26 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you for telling us of the synchronicities, Betty, and the rest of your family’s story.

12:07:50 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Lovely photo. I’m glad there were times like that.

12:08:10 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   These stories are SO moving. Mans inhumanity to man…..

12:09:14 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   With Love...          

               Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.          

              You can join the After Chat here:       

               ::::::::::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::::::::::   

               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

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      We’ll post this notice several times…

12:28:39 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   What a story, thank you.  Thank you all.

12:30:47 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   The recording and the chat from today will be included with the links to most of all 600+ episodes will be available if you send me your email address. Stan@othernetworks.org

12:31:20 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you, Henry, for your story and your work in the world. You help the healing happen. Bless you, and your wife.

12:31:46 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.          

              You can join the After Chat here:       

               ::::::::::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::::::::::   

               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

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12:32:01 From Irene Gruber to Stan Pokras(Direct Message):

   Please send the recording to irenegruber23@gmail.com

12:32:19 From Stan Pokras to Irene Gruber(Direct Message):

   Thank you.

12:35:45 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   I was born in 1946 after my father came home from the service. This is the first time that I’ve heard the kind of details we have been offered today. As a family, all my relatives were living in the United States before the war began…

12:37:01 From Celia Anne Browne to Host and Panelists:

   Thank You So Much ❤️

12:38:36 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Either God is not all powerful or God is not just, is how some framed the dilemma

12:40:11 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Many war survivors, as well as combatants, have framed it similarly

12:40:35 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:

   I just got off the phone with my 1st husband whose father was a Survivor of a camp at 15 years old, had no warmth and when we were visiting and my husband hugged his father goodbye, his mother hugged me and cried and said "That is the 1st time they have ever hugged, thank you for bringing warmth into our lives."  He said his father hadn't talked about it until much later.

12:44:17 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Exactly, I have met many military vets who are angry at the god that they claim does not exist!

12:48:49 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:

   That is why it is important to work on Freeing the Slaves now as we have more slaves than ever before in history and in the Haggadah for Passover it says "No Jew shall rest until all slaves are free!"  That means now.  It is our responsibility.  Maybe it happened so we the survivors can finally put a stop to slavery.  Right now part of that is being done to enslave the whole world through false medicine much like the experiments in Germany.  Why are we allowing this now?  Why are we allowing this now?  Take the survey at www.slaveryfootprint.org to see how many slaves you are currently employing.

12:48:49 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   For further study...

   > ::https://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-Where-Was-God/dp/9810440227::

   > ::https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691059419/god-after-auschwitz::

   > ::https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/postscript-elie-wiesel-1928-2016::

   > ::https://www.jstor.org/stable/40171747:: (JOURNAL ARTICLE God on the Gallows: Reading the Holocaust through Narratives of Redemption by Karen Spector  2007)

   > ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_theology::

   > ::https://www.pbs.org/eliewiesel/life/henry.html:: (Story and Silence: Transcendence in the Work of Elie Wiesel By Gary Henry)

   > ::https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/richard-rubenstein-dead/2021/06/08/bed68c26-c799-11eb-afd0-9726f7ec0ba6_story.html::

   > ::https://archive.org/details/inlibrary?query=Richard+L.+Rubenstein:: (books to borrow including After Auschwitz: radical theology and contemporary Judaism 1966)

12:50:41 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:

   surely that is also a helping profession

12:52:08 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   Judaism has the best rituals and holidays!

12:53:01 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   I've always been a little jealous of people who grew up Jewish.  Though of course, the holocost backdrop is another matter altogether.

12:54:58 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   The word Holocaust suggests a burnt offering  to God, difficult concept

12:57:23 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   We're out of time, but I'd love to hear everyone's reactions to the connection between the Holocaust and the existence of Israel.

12:57:51 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   At some other time, I’d like to hear opinions about whether the murder of Jews might have been prevented if the US had opened our borders to earlier Jewish refugees.

12:58:00 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   > ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_If4a-gHg_I:: (1:52:33 Jon Kabat-Zinn - "The Healing Power of Mindfulness" YouTube · Dartmouth Apr 13, 2011)

   > ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ4NGQbRKiI:: 1:09:20 Jon Kabat-Zinn - Wherever You Go There You Are 2021)

12:58:24 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Well said, Jim. Thank you all.

12:58:36 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Stan?

12:58:45 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.          

              You can join the After Chat here:       

               ::::::::::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::::::::::   

               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

                            ..oOo..

12:58:53 From Ruth Buzi to Everyone:

   Thank you all

12:59:03 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   ::https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLc_Ezq5noAC1LM1uvmAm9_wGrkpHNi-NV::

12:59:23 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   I love that!

12:59:40 From amanda sebris to Everyone:

   Miracles are signs that you are loved 🥰

12:59:47 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.          

              You can join the After Chat here:       

               ::::::::::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::::::::::   

               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

                            ..oOo..

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