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11:03:57 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
It’s Humanity Rising’s 580th episode… good luck to you, and your family, friends and projects!
11:04:01 From Janice1 to Everyone:
can we pause for the 11:11 doorway?
11:04:22 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Excellent Breathing -- back on track.
11:07:25 From mo Stevenson to Everyone:
YES breathing together with Love in our heart creates a beautiful space to BE
11:09:19 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
The song ‘From a distance’ is very good on this point…
11:10:24 From Lynnea Franks to Everyone:
Great words Jim. The insanity here in South England with this glorification of war is sickening. Plastic red poppies all over the streets - a total nonsense!
11:12:50 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
Why Climate Breakdown Matters
::https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/why-climate-breakdown-matters-9781350212015/::
11:15:29 From Rita Marsh to Host and Panelists:
Is there an update on Rick Buckley's health if appropriate to share. He has been on my heart since his episode earlier this year.
11:15:38 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
Do you want to know the truth?: The surprising rewards of climate honesty ::https://249897.e-junkie.com/product/1756224/Do-you-want-to-know-the-truth3F-The-surprising-rewards-of-climate-honesty::
11:16:20 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
Rick is getting better day by day although he fell and broke his hip last month which set him back a bit.
11:16:22 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Jos Santos is the artist/creator of this 50 foot whale scratched on a black background.
11:19:44 From jeannie to Everyone:
Economist article ::https://www.economist.com/leaders/2022/11/03/the-world-is-missing-its-lofty-climate-targets-time-for-some-realism::
11:25:13 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
@Jim, thanks for news of Rick's progress.
11:25:35 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Oops! Different whale. See josart.net for scratch art whale with amazing scenes of human activity that is devastating this world
11:25:38 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Yes chills here too
11:27:30 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
Ee all got to get serious about the climate crises. It is an emergency. We really do only have ten years. Yet after 40 yrs of atmospheric scientists trying to get more media attention and some needed changes in gov policy, the gov/corporations are still resisting a saner and cleaner energy policy. This climate emergency is far more in need of our public funds than the war in Ukraine, which could be peace brokered if only the gov would.
11:27:35 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
Thucydides HISTORY OF THE PELEPONESSIAN WAR. A great work of philosophical history.
11:28:22 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Host and Panelists:
PREVENTING VIOLENCE. This program, ::http://LivingValues.net:: has over 90% reduction in violence in a Thai Refugee Camp within 2 years! The woman who developed it then went to Johannesburg, RSA and designed a program for street people - similar results!
It’s free, the Living Values Education Program: The first two Values instructed are LOVE and PEACE. All the other Values are generated from these. Thus affecting ALL life on our planet in every day.
Here's more on three quality character development programs: Character Inclusion for Regenerative Societies, Diane Tillman, Daniel Allen. ::https://youtu.be/08sYrYfNvnw:: a Humanity Rising Global Solutions Summit program produced by the Peace Lab.
"Let virtue lead the way, and every step will be safe.” ~ Seneca
11:28:32 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
PREVENTING VIOLENCE. This program, ::http://LivingValues.net:: has over 90% reduction in violence in a Thai Refugee Camp within 2 years! The woman who developed it then went to Johannesburg, RSA and designed a program for street people - similar results!
It’s free, the Living Values Education Program: The first two Values instructed are LOVE and PEACE. All the other Values are generated from these. Thus affecting ALL life on our planet in every day.
Here's more on three quality character development programs: Character Inclusion for Regenerative Societies, Diane Tillman, Daniel Allen. ::https://youtu.be/08sYrYfNvnw:: a Humanity Rising Global Solutions Summit program produced by the Peace Lab.
"Let virtue lead the way, and every step will be safe.” ~ Seneca
11:29:13 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
I see two kinds of people: Those who want to grab as much as they can get, and those who want to share everything.
11:29:42 From Janice1 to Everyone:
George Floyd death perfect example,... all who came together... and those who responded with violence...Unfortunately those who responded with violence got too much of the attention
11:29:44 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
👍🏼
11:31:06 From Jan Cafearo to Host and Panelists:
My own experince in a life and death situation, is that the non-responders seemed to be in shock. I think this is something we can work with.
11:31:19 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
I see younger and older souls. Younger filled with fear and focused on self and older who allow feelings and act in service.
11:31:36 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
Liberate amazing human potential
11:31:59 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
Rebecca Solnit THE PARADISES BUILT IN HELL
11:32:13 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
One of the branches of the the Peace Lab’s wheel of co-creation is the ENVIRONMENT. As you may have seen though the power of eating a diet for a healthy body/Gaia by seeing the documentary EATING TO EXTINCTION… and using the book DRAWDOWN, that demonstrates the # 6 of 100 most effective ways to reverse global warming is EDUCATING WOMEN! Let's play together ASAP. The time is ripe.
We'd love to collaborate with you in bringing Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace. See in the following video how societies may use nature as a model for collaboration and thriving for all. ::https://youtu.be/7jAfWyCpXPM::.
11:32:50 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
Why Climate Breakdown Matters
::https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/why-climate-breakdown-matters-9781350212015/::
11:32:53 From Michelle Massi to Host and Panelists:
Thanks Jim for the update on Rick, much appreciation .
11:33:00 From Richard Page to Everyone:
After the Great Plauge came the Renaissance
11:33:52 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
He feels all our love so thank you far asking.
11:34:19 From Anahata Pomeroy to Everyone:
Hundreds —600? of pilot whales beached in New Zealand a few weeks ago. Do you see the cause for this?
11:35:12 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
The world, and firstly the developed nations, NEED to realize that climate crises IS the Emergency at this time. It's not the war in Ukraine and its not the little spit pats between liberals and conservatives that get most of the attention in the media, and it's not covid and a must to be vaccine boostered every 3 months. The Real Emergency is the coming extinction of our present civilization.
11:36:04 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
"You do not have to obtain Love from outside by difficult practices. Its springs lie within. Let your heart overflow with Love. Let your Love be all encompassing. If you continue to live Love, more of it will be released within. The more you give, the more you will have. He who gives Love is greeted everywhere by Love.” Muktananda
11:37:31 From Margo King to Host and Panelists:
Trying to buy why climate breakdown matters….the website asks if we want to go to US site rather than the UK site but nowhere to shift to US ….help please?
11:38:01 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
Try Amazon ? 🙁 ;-)
11:39:10 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
The US could be greatly solving the climate crises , by using some of the hundred of billions that taxpayers are now giving the military complex and weapons industry and to a unwinable war in Ukraine. And much of the military could be re-employed to help poor countries adapt and mitigate climate change.
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11:39:50 From Diane. to Everyone:
And one of the ways we can make the essential changes is by taking care where we put our money!! No more buying anything from Nestle or Coca Cola; buy as few clothes (especially plastic ones - nylon is a naff no no) as possible; aim to buy refillable containers so we remove the use of plastics. Share cars. Stuff like that. So many people ask 'What can we do?' One of the answers: consume less!! Actually we can do loads. Apartheid in South Africa was changed by boycott. That is a process that works
11:40:01 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
We parent the future together. (As in my book that we discussed last year on HR: ‘Parents for a future: How loving our children can prevent climate collapse’: www.parentsforafuture.org )
11:40:07 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
I like that Kurt., very true.
11:40:58 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
Hey, whales and dolphins and trees are people too. Let's take care of ALL of US.
11:41:07 From Diane. to Everyone:
And the more we value (and play with) each other, the less we have material needs!!
11:42:31 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
up until now!!
11:42:41 From Jane Norton to Everyone:
Love it!! Human females need to join the Bonobo Revolution!
11:42:46 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
I once heard someone channel a dolphin (a whale also) who would only communicate in “feel-think” meaning heart had to be primary. Both were obviously conscious beings with language and wisdom.
11:42:48 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
Bonobo Revolution!
11:43:12 From Diane. to Everyone:
❤️ The Way of the Bonobo xxx
11:43:43 From Diane. to Everyone:
Brilliant Meg!!
11:43:46 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
Do you want to know the truth?: The surprising rewards of climate honesty ::https://249897.e-junkie.com/product/1756224/Do-you-want-to-know-the-truth3F-The-surprising-rewards-of-climate-honesty::
11:43:54 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
The revolution is to become a all-other Caring society instead of a self-centered Competitive society.
11:44:46 From Diane. to Everyone:
The pandemic was our greatest opportunity to create change (The beginning of Humanity Rising!!) We need to create a united plan for all life!!!
11:45:13 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Events like Birthdays, Anniversary, Christmas, etc. people could GIFT USED clothes, USED ‘goods’, etc. Maybe, after seeing this beautiful short video, plant trees for each age you attain! It could be done through www.TreeSisters.org or do it Yourself. 😊 Maybe even make it a family tradition.
Thanks for being here now. We use all the help we can get to bring Love and beauty alive more in each day.
Have a magical day creating the Grandest Version of Your Greatest Vision!
11:45:23 From Diane. to Everyone:
When we make a small and simple manifesto - the rest of the thinking and caring world will join in!!!
11:45:28 From Marcel de Berg to Everyone:
What if the real crisis is a social crisis about inequality, then it makes a lot of sense that we don't solve the climate crisis.
11:46:08 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
Agree Marcel. At root it is allowing parasitism to flourish in our groups.
11:46:14 From Charles Betterton to Everyone:
Amazon Link for Why Climate Breakdown Matters ::https://www.amazon.com/Why-Climate-Breakdown-Matters-Philosophy/dp/1350212016/::
11:46:20 From Diane. to Everyone:
It IS about inequality!! The Spirit Level was the book that showed us that. Again - we didn't take much notice. However, we still can do stuff!!
11:46:31 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
Jim Garrison began saying, “We are one species and should be living in peace.” We must UNITE!
Because, War is HELL! Climate Change is HELL.
TRUTH: COP26 FAILED! Rupert wrote afterwards that he was totally depressed for 4 days afterwards.
COP27 WILL FAIL – WE ARE FAILING!
Jim, quoting Greta, “Blah, Blah, Blah!” Governments are not going to solve these problems.”
Since COP26, why has there not been massive people actions?
Yesterday, Ed Muller said we need to, “start working together, and must collectivize our action.” We “need a STIMULUS" -- to unite! We must “mainstream regeneration” and there is “NOT MUCH TIME!”
A plan of ACTION is READY NOW to capture and keep the attention of the media EVERY DAY!!!
11:46:42 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
The video on trees: See for inspiration: The Man Who Planted Trees, ::https://youtu.be/PYlsIZXCQa4::
11:46:49 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
We can ONLY do it on the local community, team and group level. WE have the power to insist on it.
11:47:06 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
Reclaim our agency
11:47:32 From Diane. to Everyone:
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsEZr3s1aBA:: Cartoon re Inequality!! The Spirit Level
11:47:54 From Charles Betterton to Everyone:
Dr. T, Surely you meant TEEM!
11:48:11 From Diane. to Everyone:
🤣
11:48:12 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
TEEM Up and TEEM On, Baby!
11:49:06 From Diane. to Everyone:
This is an opportunity! We need to face it and make changes fast!!
11:49:33 From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Everyone:
In my humble view, the evolutionary challenge we seem to be facing as human beings is how to grow with Joy. For whatever reason(s), as human beings we seem to be stuck in the notion that the only way to grow requires pain. It boils down to the belief: No pain, no gain. So, we need to find a new framework for growth. How to grow with Joy? How do we tackle climate challenge with a framework of joyfully knowing that we can tackle and then doing it. Maya Angelou once said: “When we know better do better.”
11:49:55 From Diane. to Everyone:
However, certainly in the UK, we've put solutions forward and - nobody takes any notice!!
11:50:02 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
The first thing we have to do is UNITE!
I humbly would like to announce a plan is prepared to UNITE THE CLIMATE AND PEACE MOVEMENTS FIRST, then all the other movements; the youth, labor, indigenous, BLM, PPC, all the religions and spiritual orgs, and mayors and community leaders everywhere under one umbrella – NONVIOLENCE - to create the LARGEST PEOPLE MOVEMENT the world has ever seen!
The people in every country want their children to grow up in a safe and healthy environment. Therefore, the plan is to begin a Global Movement of Nonviolence, For the Children (GMofNV).
Vandana Shiva said in this short video, “Nonviolence, in my view, is stronger than violence. Stronger because it builds the resilience of the spirit. And no power on earth, no force on earth can crush the spirit!” (::https://www.facebook.com/PressenzaEnglish/videos/1410150049099923/::)
11:51:03 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
A GMofNV is an EMERGENCY PLAN and it is designed to begin immediately. One last step remains!
The movement can begin now! The people are waiting for a plan! The strategy to begin is READY! Once a GMofNV begins, it leads the way for Kurt Krueger’s promotion of Love!
11:51:10 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Absolutely , Cuf! Relationships bring joy, stuff, not so much
11:51:13 From Marcel de Berg to Everyone:
Lester Brown said to me that we need a club sandwich approach. During second world war there was Roosevelt addressing captains of industry for the need to make ships, plans, tanks. The captains said who are going to make these we don't have the capacity, we are making cars. Roosevelt said, from tomorrow on you are not making cars anymore. That is leadership from the top. Regenerating land locally is the power from the bottom. Who will be the leaders that have the courage to make the club sandwhich?
11:51:50 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
Rubert, you could be right in your deep pessimism.
But it's insane to just give up and not make a mass effort to get out of this crises.
Working on changing political leaders and policies is yes not enough; But just doing what we can in a little lives is also Not Enough.
People have to Demand political leaders to divest capital from BigOIL and Military-Complex; and re-invest this trillion dollars into Climate Solutions.
11:51:57 From Matthew Martin to Host and Panelists:
Rubert, you could be right in your deep pessimism.
But it's insane to just give up and not make a mass effort to get out of this crises.
Working on changing political leaders and policies is yes not enough; But just doing what we can in a little lives is also Not Enough.
People have to Demand political leaders to divest capital from BigOIL and Military-Complex; and re-invest this trillion dollars into Climate Solutions.
11:52:05 From Dan Balcaban to Host and Panelists:
Capitalism at its finest
11:52:38 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
Please send messages to “Everyone” Matthew Martin to Host and Panelists (11:51 AM)
Rubert, you could be right in your deep pessimism.
But it's insane to just give up and not make a mass effort to get out of this crises.
Working on changing political leaders and policies is yes not enough; But just doing what we can in a little lives is also Not Enough.
People have to Demand political leaders to divest capital from BigOIL and Military-Complex; and re-invest this trillion dollars into Climate Solutions.
11:52:55 From Marcel de Berg to Everyone:
People have to recognize that we are part of nature and not that we inherit nature as taught by some religions.
11:52:59 From Dan Balcaban to Host and Panelists:
Millions of other species on the earth and humans think we are the only ones
11:53:07 From Jan Cafearo to Host and Panelists:
Superb Rupert thank you, inequality between us and all other beings
11:53:14 From Martha Gallahue to Host and Panelists:
If we look at the issue of “crisis” we must also look into how we approach our spiritual identities. Like the whales, we are essentially non-separative. It is now timely to change our self-definition as homo universals (Barbara Marx Hubbard) and replace the assumption that homo sapiens is comprehensive enough.
11:53:29 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
The little thing we can ALL do that IS enough is bring our soil back to life. I don’t think there is one other thing we can do that will have the same impact.
11:53:44 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Soil IS the commons
11:54:00 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
time to stop the Hopium addiction & start preparing for adaptation & hospice
11:54:01 From Marcel de Berg to Everyone:
soil is key, soil is life
11:54:33 From Martha Gallahue to Host and Panelists:
Yes, the protecting the public commons needs to be our fundamental ethical stance in order to assume our proper position as humans.
11:54:47 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
We ARE TEEMING for ALL ways to ACTIVATE people to bring SOCIAL COHERENCE (Bonobo like) into creating Peace IN Everything Everything WITH Peace. Let’s get together creating PeaceMaker Circles/Network. ED by taking action! Meditating, smiling, sharing Love...
"Because you are alive, everything is possible."
Thích Nhat Hanh
Free Peace Maker MasterMind Circles ~ to be all you can be to bring Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace: ::https://noblegoldman.com/.../intentional.../kurtkrueger::
We Salute You with the ZOOMING Peace Salute, ::https://youtu.be/iLqxBwH9Plk:: whenever we say goodbye.
11:54:50 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
I agree, I’m often looked at funny when I share with my family and friends that I think that growing, torturing and then killing animals for food and byproducts is our biggest blind spot and crime against Nature that IF we evolve, will be seen as monstrous in future years
11:55:23 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
Please send messages to “Everyone” Martha Gallahue to Host and Panelists (11:54 AM)
Yes, the protecting the public commons needs to be our fundamental ethical stance in order to assume our proper position as humans.
11:55:46 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
The Un-equality is between Rich nations and Poor nations.
11:55:50 From Marcel de Berg to Everyone:
from an Eath's energy balance perspective, soil produce organic aerosols that together with the water evapotranspired by plants and trees produce very strong sun reflecting cooling Earth clouds, see greenwatercools.org
11:56:48 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
And capitalism rests inherently on selling, persuasion, manufactured scarcity
11:56:53 From Dan Balcaban to Host and Panelists:
Or create a new system?
11:56:57 From Love to Everyone:
Important Question: Rupert, what light could a Wittgensteinian perspective shine on efforts to understand whale communication, as is happening now using language translation AI, and will we learn to communicate with whales in a philosophicsl or ethical dimension?
11:57:03 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
We can reinvent capitalism as local economies
11:57:10 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
Rubert, the problem is Greedy Corporations.
11:57:15 From Dan Balcaban to Host and Panelists:
Thats works for every living being on the earth
11:57:24 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
Hunter Lovins asked in her HR session... "Is destroying the planet a viable business proposition?"
11:57:49 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
::https://othernetworks.org/L._Hunter_Lovins::
11:58:08 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
Evolution has always had economies. Diverse exchange grows local possibility
11:58:10 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
need capitalism that shifts towards localized capitalism.
11:58:30 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
Yes, a green capitalism ; that worlks
11:58:41 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
On the philosophical level the denialism of climate is addressed here: ::https://research-portal.uea.ac.uk/en/publications/what-is-new-in-our-time-the-truth-in-post-truth-a-response-to-fin::
11:59:26 From Janice1 to Everyone:
Can we address the geo engineering which supposedly is meant to mitigate climate change and may even be exacerbating it - and there are those who believe some is being done on purpose to create population mitigation - which is frightening
12:00:04 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
On geo engineering: ::https://www.econexus.info/files/geoengineering-response-to-climate-crisis.pdf::
12:00:05 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
we need integral perspective. many ideologies get misapplied & lose their essential base/centrality. not a reason to toss; more a reason to reform & reframe
12:00:16 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
Agreed Marilyn.
12:00:18 From Charles Betterton to Everyone:
Thanks Cuf for mentioning Joy! Free 4 Day Global Joy Summit ::https://www.globaljoysummit.org/::
Please remind us where we may receive a PDF of Mother Earth Speaks.
12:00:29 From Michelle Massi to Everyone:
And the Banks that underwrite an entire quarter of the World’s fossil fuels that continue to pollute our fragile climate, there are four major banks, They are Citi, Chase , Bank of America and Wells Fargo. With B of A heading up as number one. This is how it is . Do not forget the money that supports this activity. Bank elsewhere as a protest to this activity.
12:00:46 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
TEEMLab.com we have a pathway— nature of place, 5 Capitals Stakeholder growth, TEEMING Economies
12:00:51 From Marcel de Berg to Everyone:
geo-engenering is the fasted route to suicide for mankind, because it wil destroy the water-cycles evn further.
12:00:53 From Len Robinson to Host and Panelists:
The problem is most do not recognize being connected to everything else - "man to have dominion over " - does not work ... people are destroying our home with arrogance and misconceptions.
12:00:55 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Kate Raworth is giving the E F Schumacher lecture this Saturday at 10am PDT
12:01:00 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
you all need to understand economics... capitalism is a workable system.. but like all systems it needs governance or governing adjustments to direct it towards social and env needed goals.
12:01:01 From Robert Hayes to Everyone:
Mr de Berg - could you please put your Roosevelt chat comment BACK into the chat please? I was copying it and my chat evaporated again... thx
12:01:55 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
We’ll need to take care of each other
12:02:55 From Janice1 to Everyone:
I wish I didn
12:02:59 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
Market-guiding Economic Policies
Government economic policies
should be guided by
ecological & climate needs
– Governments need to economically guide free-market activities and private investment towards achieving a healthy and sustainable natural environment.
– Create economic penalties to discourage businesses from harming the public environment, human living conditions, natural ecosystems or the global climate, and to discourage capital investment in business that engage in such harms.
– Create economic incentives to encourage capital investment in businesses and projects that help improve ecological, climate, and human living conditions.
12:03:14 From Janice1 to Everyone:
have to leave - this is a very stimulating dialogue! Thanks to all!
12:03:21 From Matthew Martin to Host and Panelists:
Market-guiding Economic Policies
Government economic policies
should be guided by
ecological & climate needs
– Governments need to economically guide free-market activities and private investment towards achieving a healthy and sustainable natural environment.
– Create economic penalties to discourage businesses from harming the public environment, human living conditions, natural ecosystems or the global climate, and to discourage capital investment in business that engage in such harms.
– Create economic incentives to encourage capital investment in businesses and projects that help improve ecological, climate, and human living conditions.
12:03:24 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
We’ve got to hold diversity and possibility. Tolerating Complexity, learning to hold uncertainty
12:03:27 From Michelle Massi to Everyone:
Agreed we need to care for each other , Yes!
12:04:04 From Marcel de Berg to Everyone:
(repeat on request)
Lester Brown said to me that we need a club sandwich approach. During second world war there was Roosevelt
addressing captains of industry for the need to make ships, plans, tanks. The captains said who are going to make
these we don't have the capacity, we are making cars. Roosevelt said, from tomorrow on you are not making cars anymore. That is leadership from the top. Regenerating land locally is the power from the bottom. Who will be the leaders that have the courage to make the club sandwhich?
12:04:21 From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Everyone:
@Charles Betterton—Here's the link to the article “Mother Earth Speaks”: ::https://www.academia.edu/7522109/Mother_Earth_Speaks_Change_Yourself_Change_The_World_Use_The_Archetypal_Energy_Harmony_As_A_Guide::
12:04:21 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
@Michelle you may be interested in ::https://stopthemoneypipeline.com/::
12:04:37 From Janice1 to Host and Panelists:
The COPs by and large ignore the cause, consequences, and solutions to militaries exorbitant and expanding use of fossil fuels.
12:04:37 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Caring for each other and all life on the planet with JOY!
12:04:57 From michael coles to Everyone:
ignorance comes with knowledge. Wisdom begins when knowing this.
12:04:57 From Robert Hayes to Everyone:
thx Marcel 🌲😎🌲
12:05:09 From Len Robinson to Host and Panelists:
capitalism as is practised is self defeating - Adam Smith talked of the fiduciary responsibility which has been supplanted by profit over all else.
12:05:17 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
And inspired agency!
12:05:34 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Yes thank you for your wonderful work with XR!
12:06:44 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
A Global Movement of Nonviolence is designed for transition.
It brings opposites together. People can feel part of something bigger than they are.
The climate movement needs a peace movement and vice versa.
Nonviolence works!
Andre Sheldon
Director, Global Strategy of Nonviolence
12:06:53 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
Radical Centrism!
12:07:05 From Julie Hong to Host and Panelists:
Yes!
12:07:47 From Paul Hillery to Host and Panelists:
Emperors, Kings, Barons.Lords, then esq (a term still used in England at the end of your name to show that you own your own place to live. Names for these terms change, but not we have oligarchs above serfs (slaves in some countries). It used to be about who work the land. Since the Industrial Revolution it changed, especially in Russian where the horses, mules and oxen were exterminated because tractors were thought to be the farming of the future. “We” are still stupidly behind the curb today.
12:07:57 From Diane. to Everyone:
So, Andre, Climate and Peace together!! We can do that, can't we :-) xxx
12:08:02 From Matthew Martin to Host and Panelists:
What we Should be doing in Protesting is to... Publicly Demand a public-media Climate Conversation – and a Robust Debate that the News and Media must work with.
12:08:21 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
What we Should be doing in Protesting is to... Publicly Demand a public-media Climate Conversation – and a Robust Debate that the News and Media must work with.
12:08:33 From Diane. to Everyone:
And yes, Tamsin, Radical Centrism!! Sounds brill!!!
12:08:38 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
and where does the opportunity for aligning/co-creating with indigenous cultures come in?
12:08:49 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
12:09:03 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
12:09:11 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
it should be mostly about Citizen political participation.
12:09:21 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGPkGDTiWGk::
12:09:30 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
I like ghost scaffolding
12:10:00 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
I think there is abundant opportunity for internal structure to move things
12:10:01 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
Please send messages to “Everyone” …Paul Hillery to Host and Panelists (12:07 PM)
Emperors, Kings, Barons.Lords, then esq (a term still used in England at the end of your name to show that you own your own place to live. Names for these terms change, but not we have oligarchs above serfs (slaves in some countries). It used to be about who work the land. Since the Industrial Revolution it changed, especially in Russian where the horses, mules and oxen were exterminated because tractors were thought to be the farming of the future. “We” are still stupidly behind the curb today.
12:10:01 From Diane. to Everyone:
Some of us oldies have spent our lives being outside of the machine!! I can tell you - it's great!! Very low maintenance can save the world!!
12:10:32 From Michelle Massi to Everyone:
As an ad on, if we eliminate just a quarter of all fossil fuels then we would meet the 2030 goal and prevent the tipping point , that is significant. Just that quarter would give us a real chance for survival
12:10:34 From Matthew Martin to Host and Panelists:
but we don't have time to make those big cultural changes
12:10:55 From Diane. to Everyone:
We've lived a life of 'Life is not about money' and All You Need is LOVE!!!
12:11:21 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
www.moderateflank.org - our website [not publicly launching for a fortnight!]
12:12:08 From Marcel de Berg to Everyone:
Rupert, I would love to organize a mars of leaders with their children and grand children, the leaders of companies, the fortune 500,, the pension funds, politics that we demand new rules of the game. Let gets the leaders in the street with their children, Demanding new rules of the game.
YELLING: WE WANT NEW RULES OF THE GAME!
12:12:10 From Matthew Martin to Host and Panelists:
What is Most needed is to make the climate emergency a TV, News and Media conversation and simply get out the Word that this IS our current Emergency of out time ... otherwise, we got Big Problems coming.
12:12:21 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
tes
12:12:31 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
A more-than-emergency ;)
12:12:38 From Diane. to Everyone:
The purpose of Humanity Rising was to find new ways and unite, wasn't it?
12:13:14 From Marcel de Berg to Everyone:
Would love to connect, this is my linkedin profile:
::https://www.linkedin.com/in/marceldeberg/::
12:13:16 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:
Music and the arts are the universal language and generally are not decisive. I recently made a short ten minute film with the music of the fantastic & global OneBeat musicians to bring us all together for social & environmental change: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV39kycBcss::
12:13:18 From Diane. to Everyone:
We're still doing Direct action!!
12:13:20 From Paul Hillery to Host and Panelists:
As Matt said, “Citizen political participation”, which used to be called Citizen Diplomats, as Jim Garrison and Jim Hickman and others did, the struggle continues. Jim was out there almost getting shot down ( as I was many times) But I think there is more a need for it, non-violent activism, which is what this site is all about.
12:13:25 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
Earth First!
12:13:28 From Diane. to Everyone:
And yes It's FUN!!!
12:13:37 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Jim, I totally agree with that aspect of it being layered, here on HR
12:13:51 From Jane Norton to Everyone:
@Marcel, I think a multi generational approach is key! I have been considering what I can do with my grandchildren in this arena.
12:14:05 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
Turn on, tune in, drop out… ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn_on,_tune_in,_drop_out::
12:14:18 From Diane. to Everyone:
People: stop consuming: start communicating and SHARE!!!!
12:14:42 From Marcel de Berg to Host and Panelists:
@Ruptert @Tamsin would love to connect ::https://www.linkedin.com/in/marceldeberg/::
connect@marceldeberg.nl
12:14:46 From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Everyone:
In my humble view, I have called for a new kind of politics, a politics of Truth. Here’s the link to that article: ::https://www.academia.edu/37301575/A_Humanistic_Approach_To_Politics_AHPs_Call_For_A_Politics_Of_Truth::
12:14:54 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
Nonviolence creates cultural change and our consciousness.
Especially if you bring in the Divine Feminine.
12:14:55 From Clare Rosenfield to Host and Panelists:
And there’s an insidious case before the Supreme Court now I believe is supported by dark money to get the Court to end protection for First Nations rights so that they can get their protected lands and sacred burial grounds. It threatens to bring back the separation of the Indian children from their original families. Please look into this.
12:15:06 From Diane. to Everyone:
Yes Stanley: Turn on, tune in and drop out (of the 'real' world!!)
12:15:17 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
Rubert, you could be right in your deep pessimism about people's ability to change national policies.
But it's insane to just give up and not make a mass effort to get out of this crises.
Working on changing political leaders and policies is yes not enough; But just doing what we can in a little lives is also Not Enough !!
People have to DEMAND political leaders to divest capital from BigOIL and Military-Complex; and re-invest this trillion dollars into Climate Solutions.
12:16:00 From Mo Stevens to Host and Panelists:
Jim you are amazing and my. Hero One that leads the way with your beautiful. Soul. For. Humanity Rising. Love Love Love. Thank you. Thank you. Thank You!!!!!
12:16:06 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
The women in Iran have opened the door for UNITING AROUND THE WORLD.
12:16:25 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
Please post to “Everyone” … Clare Rosenfield to Host and Panelists (12:14 PM)
And there’s an insidious case before the Supreme Court now I believe is supported by dark money to get the Court to end protection for First Nations rights so that they can get their protected lands and sacred burial grounds. It threatens to bring back the separation of the Indian children from their original families. Please look into this.
12:16:29 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
Matthew, I said earlier it’s really important to vote! I am a member of the Green Party and still active in it! Politics has been a huge part of my life. All Im saying is: politics is not enough. It needs rocket-powering from outside.
12:16:57 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Timing, context, agency and Consciousness… I love that - align with my own purpose and then what it demand of me...
12:17:07 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
I was at Redwood Summer in 1990 🙂
12:17:16 From Love to Everyone:
Question: Rupert, do you support the Pope's grassroots ecological conversion movement? As an ally of the moderate flank...?
12:17:46 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
Yes I do.
12:17:52 From Diane. to Everyone:
It's the gradual evolution of Planet Earth. The learning curve of humans heading, via years of abuse and domination and being too heavy (patriarchal?) towards total consciousness
12:18:12 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
Re the Pope: I was just talking this morning with a key person in the Laudatory Si Institute as it happens!
12:18:18 From Marcel de Berg to Everyone:
@Jane - intergenerational is indeed key. Get the leaders, the influencers on the street with their children, grandchildren. Let the leaders put their courage where their mouth is on corporate social responsibilty policy. If you are a leader you know that the system needs to be repaired. If you don't it now, you are not a leader, the youth is saying you are liar, a crook.
12:18:18 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
In our current global economic realty, all needed changes boil down to Where the money goes.. All we have to do, mostly, is to Move the Money from Eco-bad and climate-bad investments and move this into Eco-good and climate-good investment of both public and private money.
12:18:19 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Crisis clarifies your values
12:18:23 From Love to Everyone:
Rupert, please come to the afterchat hosted by Stan, too much to cover in the time
12:18:24 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
Good discussion of all these things: ::https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0cx6tw7::
12:18:27 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
This is the moment for WOMEN to CHANGE the world.
12:18:30 From Matthew Martin to Host and Panelists:
In our current global economic realty, all needed changes boil down to Where the money goes.. All we have to do, mostly, is to Move the Money from Eco-bad and climate-bad investments and move this into Eco-good and climate-good investment of both public and private money.
12:18:49 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
Tamsin.. to get young people moving… reinstate the DRAFT!
12:19:25 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
Folks, so sorry; too exhausted to join the after-chat!
12:19:38 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
The truth does require learning to see whats true…
12:19:38 From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Everyone:
In alignment with Rupert @ volting: ::https://www.academia.edu/90170516/A_Way_To_Exercise_Your_Personal_Power_Vote::
12:19:41 From Marcel de Berg to Everyone:
I would turn the draft the other way around, let the senior leaders be drafted, let them work for society.
12:19:43 From Matthew Martin to Host and Panelists:
Our problem with finding truth is that our governments and their corporate media are disguising truth.
12:19:57 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
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Welcome to Humanity Rising
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:20:44 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Thanks for letting us know, Rupert. Appreciate this conversation so much today (and to Jim, Tamsin 🙂).
12:21:05 From michael coles to Everyone:
Ignorance will Come with Knowledge.
Wisdom will Come with Knowing This
~A Grandfather
12:21:16 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
And we can only manage trust in networks of around 150
12:21:35 From michael coles to Host and Panelists:
Ignorance will Come with Knowledge.
Wisdom will Come with Knowing This
~A Grandfather
12:21:55 From Michelle Massi to Everyone:
E.A.R.T.H , Every Available Resource To Heal Better Stewardship, moving forward , we can all do our part as a community in our locality.
12:21:58 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
Such narcissism at scale is the exact problem we’re dealing with
12:22:01 From Diane. to Everyone:
Very interesting Rupert. You're a Quaker. Did you grow up as a Quaker or did you pick it up later?
12:22:12 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
Truth to Power: We are failing. We need every action.
A specific strategy is prepared for women to lead a Global Movement of Nonviolence to UNITE PEOPLE EVERYWHERE – “For the Children, For the Climate, For the Future!
It can begin immediately!
For information, please contact Andre Sheldon
Andre@GlobalStrategyofNonviolence.org
12:22:26 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
Rupert, I’ll pass this session along to my friends at the American Friends Service Committee.
12:22:34 From Diane. to Everyone:
Wonderful Michelle!! EARTH!!
12:22:48 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
Required to hide behind
12:22:50 From michael coles to Host and Panelists:
::http://www.turtlelodge.org/the-seven-sacred-laws/::
12:22:50 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
At the beginning Trump was seen as a truth teller - he claimed what was hidden and many felt/feel he speals for them
12:22:56 From michael coles to Everyone:
::http://www.turtlelodge.org/the-seven-sacred-laws/::
12:23:00 From Paul Hillery to Host and Panelists:
Watch Jordan Klepper Fingers the Midterms - America Unfollows Democracy - Full Special | The Daily Show to see what are up against that didn’t exist when most of us where young. The current mentality scare many from working for progress, but we have to be brave.
12:23:10 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Great new integrative climate change book by Quaker author Jennie Ratcliff: “Nothing Lowly in the Universe”
12:23:53 From michael coles to Host and Panelists:
The Story of the Four Legged Sleep Walker
Once upon a time when trees grew, birds flew, fish swam and the water was alive, there was a four legged one whom was gifted it all.
The air was so strong with the kindness and compassion of this circle that Gaia's breath was clean and fresh.
When every moment was filled with the now and every now was a moment of love.
12:23:58 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
So much human potential we are leaving on the table. It’s all within us. We can do it, and we cannot be stopped
12:24:07 From michael coles to Host and Panelists:
One day the thought of losing such a gift of wonders created a fear.
This fear grew other thoughts of fears of loss that it grew a pain.
This pain was so strong that pain started to fill the moments of now.
Now, the now had become so heavy with painful thoughts of fear that the circle was broken.
The four legged ran from the pain into the future to collect all it could just to satisfy this fear of losing it all.
12:24:07 From Diane. to Everyone:
Thanks Richard xxx
12:24:11 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Thanks for all of your life’s work for a thriving life. Such blessings. Yes, together in collaboration, coagulation, and dialogue, we get to prompt the world back into thriving for ALL our relations. See how we can do it even faster with the Peace Lab, www.OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab
Founding Member of Peace Lab/Imagined.
FREE PeaceMaker MasterMind Circles ~ to be all you can be to bring Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace: ::https://noblegoldman.com/fun/intentional-change-network/kurtkrueger::
SuccessSystemsInternational.net
The World Fest, www.theWorldFestOrganization.org
* Winning Ways for Living * (last volume in the bestselling series) ~ Three books in 1 to make your life better… AND leave your REVIEW on its quality. Thank you..
Going Beyond Your Beyond Youtube Channel: ::https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnRMOnm-PYm40VeTxkSJxyA::
‘We don't address their brains; we address their hearts.’ ~ Mandela
12:24:13 From Dr.Tamsin Wooley Barker to Everyone:
Complex systems can turn on a dime
12:24:24 From michael coles to Host and Panelists:
Soon the now could not sleep while collecting these fears of what may come to pass so that it created the past to sleep in.
The Now is sleeping in the past, with a painful future fear that it has now created,
The Four Legged Sleep Walker
~A Grandfather
12:24:33 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:24:40 From Paul Hillery to Host and Panelists:
Yes Rupert, as the Beatles said, ALL WE NEED IS LOVE. That fuels us through great sacrifices.
12:24:45 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Agree Dr. Tamsin - agree to both of your last statements! ❤️🌳🌍
12:24:57 From Charles Betterton to Everyone:
Link to Tamsin's book TEEMING ::https://www.amazon.com/Tamsin-Woolley-Barker/e/B09MSMS1Q2/:: If anyone is interested in learning more about her work including the Borrego Institute for Living Design please visit her website ::https://www.teemlab.com/::
12:24:58 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Thank you, Rupert - wonderful summary - thank you for today!
12:25:11 From Diane. to Everyone:
Time to Stand Up and start thinking indeed!!! Every thought leads to a vibration!! All we need is Love Love Love
12:25:15 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Rupert and Tamsin, please come for some time to the AfterChat. We love and appreciate your work. 🙂
12:25:43 From Love to Everyone:
Rupert come to the afterchat hosted by Stan
12:25:49 From Diane. to Everyone:
Thank you and yes, let's spread the words!!!
12:25:49 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Let’s send it out on each of our social media posts!!
12:25:55 From Jeannie Linam to Host and Panelists:
Such a beautiful event today THANK YOU
12:25:55 From Matthew Martin to Everyone:
Diane, important to start there
12:25:56 From Michelle Massi to Everyone:
Love the Parent speak. Rupert so much Joy in this movement.Thank you. Our children the world’s future depends on them and we best do our utmost as caring parent and grandparents
12:26:01 From Marilyn - Findhorn to Everyone:
Great Trio - Thanks so much - I will share with Living Cities Earth
12:26:02 From Robert Hayes to Everyone:
thanks folks! ❤
12:26:20 From michael coles to Everyone:
¬A Grandfather
"Wisdom of Truth & Knowledge of Self"
12:26:22 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
yes please come to the After Chat
12:26:24 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
12:26:25 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
Wonderful Conversation!
12:26:54 From Diane. to Everyone:
Yes Matthew - it's a way of Life!! I Live Love xxx
12:27:08 From Rupert Read to Everyone:
Do you want to know the truth?: The surprising rewards of climate honesty ::https://249897.e-junkie.com/product/1756224/Do-you-want-to-know-the-truth3F-The-surprising-rewards-of-climate-honesty:: - gift economy book [ie you can download for free if you want]
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