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11:01:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Warm and loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Great to greet you!
11:01:42 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Ahh... a good subject!!
11:07:19 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Good morning Everyone…. It’s Day 489 and we're about to study what is implicated by free will??? Is there really such a reality?
11:02:13 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Georg Boch(Direct Message):
Thanks Georg!
11:03:10 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Georg Boch(Direct Message):
Sorry about yesterday…. I am still hoping you can send me the whole chat from yesterday.
11:03:37 From Georg Boch to Stan for the ChatPeople(Direct Message):
I did, check your mail!
11:04:06 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Georg Boch(Direct Message):
Ok, thanks.. I’m just getting started.
11:05:23 From Georg Boch to Stan for the ChatPeople(Direct Message):
Early over there…..
11:08:13 From Kate McCallum to Everyone:
Lovely to be here! I'm tuning in from Vicksburg, Michigan but live in LA.
11:08:19 From sujan burgeson to Everyone:
What is the beautiful music played for the meditation?
11:09:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Mark's participation in HR is available here: ::https://othernetworks.org/Mark_Harrison::
11:10:01 From Mark Harrison to Everyone:
markharrisonhome@hotmail.com
11:10:03 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Hello!!
11:10:35 From Yasmina Groenstein to Everyone:
... And as lovingly I look up to the sun, to this beautiful sentient being ...I know where my will is... it is in the Cosmic All...❤️⚘️
11:12:20 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Biology of Wonder by Andreas Weber has something to say about this.
11:13:27 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
There are no wrong decisions imho... just changes of path that lead to the lessons we decided as souls, that are needed during this life.
11:14:04 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Love that Shannon!
11:14:21 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
The cat is in the box, and not in the box
11:14:35 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
It's not random
11:14:52 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
There is a higher power that weaves our way for and with us.
11:15:08 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Gaia…
11:15:24 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
More than She, Kathryn…
11:15:36 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Even more than MOM!!
11:16:39 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Life is larger than Gaia, but it is a well developed expression here.
11:17:37 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
not even a sense of separteness….
11:19:44 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
We are part of a Being like our cells are part of us, and that Being is (probably) part of a larger Being...
11:20:05 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Hi, Steve!!
11:20:12 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
Haha!
11:20:38 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Yup - Shannon - we are part of Gaia and she is a part of…
11:21:47 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
control - so male, try dance with.
11:22:40 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
Jim, believe that you are flying this ship alone, perhaps you could adjust the controls of the broadcast to allow both speakers to be onscreen at the same time - it's not YOUR screen that we see.
11:23:14 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
thank you SO much!!
11:23:26 From Jim Garrison to Shannon McArthur, Host and Panelists:
Just did
11:24:10 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
In trying to understand the odd terms Implicate and Explicate, I found the more common words Implied and Explicit; Here is the table that makes sense of these words for me….
Implicate === Implied === suggested but not directly expressed
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Explicate === Explicit === stated clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt
11:25:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
oooo, harmonimus…!
11:25:21 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
Feminine is chaos/creativity, Masculine is control/order. (We need both - collectively and individually, or we get out of balance).
The "I" represents the Masculine. "Me" represents the Female. The "I" represents the Aspect of Being; the "Me" the Aspect of Becoming. (The Kybalion)
11:25:30 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
This connectivity seems to illustrate our awareness of the natural order expressed as epigenetics + our ability to dial our DNA attributes up or down to activate our own healing. Autonomic choice creates harmony.
11:26:35 From SharonJoy Kleitsch to Everyone:
From reading and pondering Bohm, I take the implicate as what's inside and explicate as that outside. They are not separate and perpetually inform the other, as in Yin/Yang
11:26:52 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
SharonJoy, well said.
11:27:08 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
🙏🏻 Sharon
11:27:20 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
YES !!! Survival of the best fitted!
11:28:04 From SharonJoy Kleitsch to Everyone:
Like the rest of life. we are informed by our environment - famliy, organizations, communities. We sense what shows life and what is toxic in our bodies.
11:29:26 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Repeating my thought on the two words: In trying to understand the odd terms Implicate and Explicate, I found the more common words Implied and Explicit; Here is the table that makes sense of these words for me….
Implicate === Implied === suggested but not directly expressed
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Explicate === Explicit === stated clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt
11:30:17 From SharonJoy Kleitsch to Everyone:
When we become students of living systems, it helps us recognize ourselves, a human express of life. We are stardust brought to life, then empowered by the universe to figure itself out – and we have only just begun. - Neil deGrasse Tyson, Astrophysics for People in a Hurry
11:30:58 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
choices must be made to keep the flow going...
11:31:08 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
5 randomness + 4 order = 9 completion (wholeness/wisdom) Numerology of universal cycles. It is a supreme evolutionary gift to have the 5 and 4 appear together in a personal cycle.
11:31:10 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
That's where WILL comes in!
11:32:48 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
It's like natural order/karma is like a cosmic autocorrect
11:33:32 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
(What was the name of the book he mentioned?)
11:33:48 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
that is the Shift!
11:35:54 From Nan Woodman to Host and Panelists:
mobius
11:36:07 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
Turns into a spiral
11:36:08 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Yes, Mark! I read about your examples in M. Mitchell Waldrop’s wonderful book “Complexity” … He explains these ideas and the notions of Order and Chaos in stories of the founding of the Santa Fe Institute that even I have been able to understand.
11:36:13 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
spiral
11:36:14 From Nan Woodman to Everyone:
mobius
11:36:20 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
I have come to think it is the discovery of existing wisdom being revealed within the spiral.
11:36:23 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
the ouroboros, snake eating its tail…
11:39:26 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
Yes Dr. Bruce Lipton shows that Darwin's "Theory of the Fittest" causing evolution was wrong and that it is the fit are the one's who will survive and it is the environment that will then express the genes to create mutation or evolution. And viruses are one of nature's way to create mutation and evolution so we need viruses. I just heard the scientists are now trying to eliminate all viruses. When will they stop playing God! When they treat a Theory as a Law, as in Darwin, that is Scientism not Real Science
11:39:38 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
Tesla said if you can understand the secrets of the 3 6 9 you will understand the secrets of the Universe. My friend Marko Rodin discovered this secret and is the father of Vortex Based Mathematics which is the formula for the creation of the Torus Energy Field. 9 is the number of Spirit. It comes out from the point of zeroness from the center I call it the belly button and pierces through the 3 and the 6 oscillating in actually 2 clock like images facing each other. Marko is also the inventor of the Rodin Coil for free energy.
11:40:01 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
All of this conversation reminds me of the fun idea that describes “what holds up the sky???” and the answer being: “It's turtles all the way down.”
11:40:16 From SharonJoy Kleitsch to Everyone:
Holons by Joanna Macy
11:40:18 From SharonJoy Kleitsch to Everyone:
“The Holonic Shift and How to Take Part in It” ::https://earthlingopinion.wordpress.com/2012/09/06/the-holonic-shift/::
11:42:03 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
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With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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11:42:14 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
I talk to my cells nearly every day, does anyone else?
11:42:35 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Absolutely, Cynthia... I wash them with light!
11:42:59 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
❤️ Shannon ✨
11:44:27 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
I do EFT regularly, which is basically like energetic cleansing and a dialogue with my cells.
11:44:50 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
Me + We = Mwe
11:44:56 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Cynthia, in a related idea, ever since I was in my teens, I’ve been looking in mirrors and saying “Younger, Younger…” telling myself to think about keep the stuff of ME from deteriorating too fast.
11:45:58 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
✨Stan ✨ Barbara Marx Hubbard used to say, "I'm not getting older, I'm getting newer!"
11:46:33 From Yasmina Groenstein to Everyone:
So here we go back to the profound Ubuntu principle..."I Am because You Are" ❤️⚘️
11:46:49 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
That's beautiful Yasmina
11:46:54 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Good for Barbara… she’s always fun to learn about.
11:47:45 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
Gathering in a circle, healing together
11:49:07 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
The geometric figure of tensegrity..shows how we are all connected
11:49:33 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
From Fuller...and there we are ONE
11:49:43 From Jenny Rook to Everyone:
I always saw Bohm's Implicate and explicate order as potential; and manifest. The Sun explained it to me as imagination (potential) creativity (how it works) /emanation (matter and beingness).
11:50:15 From Yasmina Groenstein to Everyone:
Another way to comprehend our being within. the cosmic unity field...
11:50:34 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Mark and Steve… please consider coming to the AfterChat so your fans can interact with you more directly… You’re both wonderful. You can join the After Chat here:
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11:50:44 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace. You could be a massive contributor with your hearty work to the Peace LAB. Participate in any branch with YOUR expertise or simply BE the force of Peace. OtherNetworks.org/Peace_LAB.
We'd love to have you collaborate with us in answering this query.
“What is the mystery of peace, that if we were to discover and embrace, our realization of it would be faster and easier."
11:50:46 From Yasmina Groenstein to Everyone:
So is that….
My humanity is inextricably bound in what is yours….Therefore….
We are One.❤️⚘️
11:50:52 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
I am a distrupter
11:51:35 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
IMAGINE:
You are thriving in the future. Everyone experiences Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace.
You are the last elder alive who ever experienced anything other than peace, “How did we get to have Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace?”
What is the answer given?
The more the detail, in as many areas of living, provides the path forward from these primitive times. Remember one of the world scriptures says: “Where there is no vision, the people will perish.”
See OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab for possibly adding your collaborative contribution for the future of a thriving life.
“The center of the Universe is Everywhere. The Circumference Nowhere.” ~ Black Elk
11:51:59 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
Stan, I am an Evolutionary Ambassador carrying on and evolving Barbara's work. Our Ambassador group was deep in work with her when she transitioned. Life changing and so much fun to share life with her.
11:52:20 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Tune in, tune out = free will
11:52:31 From Yasmina Groenstein to Everyone:
Beautifully expressed Kurt! ❤️⚘️
11:52:42 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
Please come to the AfterChat… everyone. Collaboration works wonders.
11:53:19 From Yasmina Groenstein to Everyone:
Because WE ARE IT! ❤️⚘️
11:53:29 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
"it's impossible not to be connected" is the wisdom of trauma healing.
11:53:36 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Karri-ann Flater, Host and Panelists:
Karri-ann - I like “distrupter” I call myself an “Instigator”
11:53:57 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
Mmm, I like that word too Stan
11:54:47 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
"If I defend myself, I am attacked" (A Course in Miracles)
11:55:56 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
And Cynthia is an Evolutionary Ambassador… It's an honor to know you all!
11:56:42 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
do not deny your feelings - investigate them!
11:57:19 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
the emotion of fear is an important part of survival.
11:57:43 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
but we have to pay attention to it, not get drowned in it!
11:57:50 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
I don't believe there is good or bad. (It's very subjective. Good compared to what? Bad compared to what?)
11:57:54 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
Evil is a human construct. There was a time when that didn't exist - Jeremy Lent
12:00:22 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Wonderful discussion - hopping off for work - so appreciate today. Thank you!
12:00:31 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
Canadian politics are in chaos too
12:01:44 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
nice to see you all together!! Rich discussion!
12:02:33 From SharonJoy Kleitsch to Everyone:
The archetype of dominator/bully has come to a head for us to recognize for the globe to recognize. Perhaps it is to awaken us to our bullying ourselves - our souls.
12:03:13 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Ahh, SharonJoy, I miss you in the AfterChat - come if and when you can!!
12:03:16 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
Be curious...
12:04:51 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
It is the flip that occurs that makes the möbius strip…
12:04:55 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
I think that nothing is NOTHING and everything is EVERYTHING — which brings to mind that in an infinite concept every point is the exact center.
12:07:54 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
I was thinking that too, language/dialogue can be limiting
12:08:30 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
I am learning/practicing clean and clear non-violent communication - it is a skill that didn't exist in my family
12:08:32 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
Comes to me the artificial system...words describing...and the natural system...of direct experience.
12:10:13 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
Thomas Hubl teaches beautiful empathetic communing styles, such as social witnessing, if interested in a deeper dive.
12:10:45 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
That sounds intriguing Cynthia, I will check that out, thank you
12:11:21 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
This has been interesting - now I want a panel of women philosophers… perhaps black women, to provide a completely different perspective on Free Will… to help us broaden our own perspectives. AND I wonder about the discussion when they get mixed together in the small ‘beaker’ of HR.
12:11:35 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
Wow. I'm curious if those predictions drive the outcome
12:13:53 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
and domestication
12:15:20 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
Yes Sharonjo,y please come to the after chat I want to meet you. I already went to the link you put in and love it thank you!
12:15:40 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
I also wonder if creating awareness of where our decisions/choices originate from (our head, heart, or gut.)
12:17:27 From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Everyone:
A humble offering in relation to the notion of free will: ::https://www.academia.edu/20666564/The_Power_of_Yes_and_No_The_Relationship_to_Consciousness_Probable_Realities_and_E_motions_::
12:17:55 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thank you, Cuf! I love your writing, and your perspective!
12:19:27 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
Yes Karri-Ann the Aborigines in Australia communicated telepathically because they told no lies!
12:20:39 From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Everyone:
Another humble offering about the gift and challenge of free will: ::https://www.academia.edu/7522358/The_Gift_and_Challenge_of_Free_Will_The_Connection_to_Transformational_Archetypal_Energies::
12:20:47 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
That's amazing Carol Sue, lov eit
12:22:25 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
I used to be skeptical of planetary influence, but then it was brought to my attention that I can feel the affect of the sun directly on my face. So why wouldn't the other planets affect us as well, perhaps just in ways my limited senses can interpret
12:23:28 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
The patterns we live within really DO affect us, even the planets!
12:23:39 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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12:24:22 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
Just spent 3 days in the Advanced Medicine Convention and learned more about that vaccine and the disease and it will curl your hair and you would never take another shot. Nothing natural about it but the stars may have had something to do with the evilness being unleashed upon us to bring the two topics together
12:25:15 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
This has been lovely. Thank you so much for coming to speak to us! I love to think you are part of Me, the Greater I that we share.
12:28:18 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
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12:28:23 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
This is the FUN part!!
12:28:39 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
come to the afterchat and talk with the women!
12:28:57 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I'd love to welcome you to the AfterChat!
12:29:05 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
Yes Karri-ann The outer planets directly effect the silica to create the calcium and calcium is directly effected by the inner planets. Silica is the form for calcium called the Silica Calcium process. Silica is the form for Calcium. If you want to increase your calcium take something high in Silica like Horsetail, one of the highest sources. It is why Biodynamic Gardeners crush up granite and put it on the soil because it is high in silica and creates calcium in the soil. More info than you wanted
12:29:07 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Let's talk together - exercise your free will!!
12:29:43 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
We are learning agency, the power to act without permission…
12:30:02 From Kate McCallum to Everyone:
YES!!!!
12:30:03 From mo Stevenson to Everyone:
WOW late and now know I missed a great conversation....Thank You all you beautiful souls Being what this world needs in this time up change and lifting Love Love Love Namaste
12:30:14 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
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12:30:21 From Kate McCallum to Everyone:
Thank you for offering this great event!
12:30:33 From SharonJoy Kleitsch to Host and Panelists:
Can you save the Chat?
12:30:43 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
Again very inspiring. nd moving us on
12:30:45 From SharonJoy Kleitsch to Everyone:
Your commitments are making a difference. Thank you for sharing your gifts.
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