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11:00:33 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada, on this: the 480th day of Humanity Rising!
11:02:42 From Doreen Tanenbaum to Everyone:
Good Morning from the woods of North Carolina home of the Cherokee
11:02:42 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
Morning, Jim… Morning Shannon! I’m still tired, but I’m here to help the activists make the world better for all this 480th Day of Humanity Rising.
11:04:30 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Stan!! Good morning - good to “see" you!
11:05:25 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Harvey, wonderful to have you come to talk to us! Thank you!
11:05:38 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
I met him decades ago at my UU church in Boulder. I have a VERY fuzzy photo - LOL
11:05:51 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Harvey's a hero.
11:08:26 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://archive.org/details/inlibrary?query=Harvey+Wasserman:: (9 Wasserman ebooks you can borrow online)
11:08:43 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Great, Leo! Thanks!
11:09:19 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://usa1lib.org/book/1061966/10303e:: (Killing Our Own: The disaster of America's experience with atomic radiation by Harvey Wasserman & Norman Solomon with Robert Alvarez & Eleanor Walters 1982 250pp PDF, 1011 KB)
11:10:53 From Jane Norton to Everyone:
@Leo- thanks for your postings about the library books form each of these authors
11:10:54 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
Georg… I guess I can do this, so please let me copy the chat…
11:12:21 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
Rest easy, Stan... let me make it easy for you. I'm here, and ready. But do as you wish — it is yours, after all ;)
11:12:28 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
Thanks Georg!
11:13:00 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Georg Boch(Direct Message):
Thank you, Georg!
11:14:15 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Shannon McArthur(Direct Message):
Love you!!! I’m feeling weak… but alive.
11:14:40 From Shannon McArthur to Stan for the ChatPeople(Direct Message):
I'm so glad. Keep that being true. Love you too!
11:15:54 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
WE would not have so many issues, IF we raised children better!! Our world is seeting with narcissists - a really hard personality to work with (Trump/Putin)…
11:16:02 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
I had great parents My personal pediatrition was Dr Lynden Smith who took over for Dr. Spock when he went to prison. We kissed my parents goodnight, hello and goodbye until they died. Luckily not poor! LOL
11:16:20 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Just love your kids... all else will fall into place… natural knowing and instinct help - so will MOM!!
11:16:22 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
I was born in 1946 and my mom actually spoke about Dr. Spock and she let my father have the privilege of hitting me. She never did.
11:19:13 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
Hey, Stan!!! Really happy to see you here! 😄
11:19:49 From Ken Haldenstein to Host and Panelists:
sorry about your being hit, Stan. I was thinking that Sluggo is very fortunate and we did not all have such loving or affectionate parents. 🙂
11:21:21 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
Were you friends with Rennie Davis from the Chicago?
11:23:08 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
Maybe you should get a skunk for a pet!
11:24:42 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Interesting comparisons to the cannabis movement from Marc Emery in British Columbia
11:30:09 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Ken Haldenstein, Host and Panelists:
Thanks, Ken… My mom would tell on me, but never lifted a finger to me herself.
11:33:38 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Very cool!!
11:33:58 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
The 13 Life Principles I always talk about were developed by Rennie Davis Yes I saw the movie. He died last year. I found at the end they did not mention Rennie's later accomplishments which were probably better than the rest. He had recently written a book not mentioned "The New Humanity - A Movement to Change the World"
11:34:29 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thank you, Carol Sue!! Wow... must have been one of the first…
11:34:34 From Ken Haldenstein to Host and Panelists:
still that's a shame for you, Stan. For me, I was thinking about the paucity of physical affection. Good to see how Harvey has done so well in his life!
11:34:46 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
It's like you have lived a thousand lifetimes Harvey. So much wisdom and experience, and very inspiring 💖
11:39:15 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I'd love a list of all the movies Sluggo has mentioned!!
11:41:04 From Margot Borden to Everyone:
I feel like I could listen to Sam all night long. If he comes back for a second talk, I'd love to know how he sees the state of the world and the US today, what he's currently involved in and what advice he would give to young people today in order to make a difference.
11:43:08 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Gotta have strong fingers to operate an Underwood!
11:44:26 From Michelle Massi to Everyone:
So good to know you are ok even if tired Stan, glad to know you are here again , well wishes from here to you😀
11:48:11 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Thank you Michelle! My concern is becoming that we need to collect people's opinion’s of their favorite Humanity Rising episodes….
11:49:53 From Marcia Raff to Host and Panelists:
Stan, hatyou been I’ll? I’m in Israel now and haven’t been in on HR for a couple of months?
11:50:28 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thank you Stan, for sharing your concern. It would be very helpful if people would offer their favourites, along with a paragraph saying why. It could be added to your database of all HR sessions.
11:51:14 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Haudenosaunee confederacy
11:51:16 From Doreen Tanenbaum to Everyone:
Yes….thank you for saying this Harvey!
11:52:57 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Marcia, I’m convalescing from eye surgery…
11:53:36 From Marcia Raff to Host and Panelists:
Oh, hope it was successful!
11:53:38 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://usa1lib.org/book/5254255/cdc33b:: (The Tragedy of American Diplomacy by Bacevich, Andrew J., Gardner, Lloyd C., Williams, William Appleman 2009 EPUB, 364 KB)
::https://usa1lib.org/book/1043854/07049a:: (The Contours of American History by William Appleman Williams 1989 EPUB, 571 KB)
11:54:20 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
#shutdowncanada
11:54:57 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://usa1lib.org/s/Howard%20Zinn/:: (Zinn ebooks)
11:55:02 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
The fetus is tumor tissue for the 1st 56 days. If you had un unwanted tumor, wouldn't you remove it?
11:56:24 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
From the Jan 2020 railway actions across Canada; where for 3 WEEKS the railway system was reported as locked down… Greta tweeted her support for the #wetsuwetenstrong and in less than 24 hours there was 28 locations including non-indigenous allies.
11:56:34 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Harvey mentioned the Liberation News Service, so I added a note about Raymond Mungo, who wrote “Famous Long Ago” see the reference ::https://othernetworks.org/Harvey_Wasserman::
11:56:58 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks Stan, Kevin and Leo... you guys are stars!
11:57:24 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
how can we fire up the youth to take control of the country?
11:58:02 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
^^^^ involve them in leadership systems like neighborocracy
11:59:38 From Rita Marsh to Host and Panelists:
@Harvey - Please consider connecting with Connie Baxter Marlow and Andrew Cameron Bailey regarding their research and writing of the early history of the Us - spiritual activism - relationship with pilgrims and the indigenous people of what is now Massachusetts. From Connie
"The US of A: Bringing the Original Spiritual Activists' Vision into Reality." We will be doing it Live on Zoom on May 22 wit IONS Portland, OR at 5PM MT. Here is a link for more information and to register: ::https://bit.ly/USofAIONSPortland::.
11:59:38 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Jim was adding fuel to this narrative by supporting the Canadian freedom trucker rally, a far right faction of Canadian oil workers
11:59:41 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
many of the youth are mere nihilists. they have no VISION for the future
12:00:42 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Marilyn, my 22 year old daughter has made comments about this generally , across her whole university class……sadly
12:00:46 From Michelle Massi to Host and Panelists:
Howard Zinn and later in the 80’s after I arrived here to America , Noam Chomsky were the two Americans I followed in the 60’s as a very young Brit activist in the UK and beyond. Thank you for your stories Harvey brings back memories. Thanks for your work , and for being here now, today. Iroquois Democracy , thank you for saying that truth. Appreciate your voice here today so illuminating. Yes loving is child and expressing it with words and great affection is key to good attachment which is what makes successful relationships throughout a life span. Yes!
12:01:34 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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12:02:20 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
solartopia@gmail.com
12:02:31 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks Harvey!!
12:02:33 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
I am a supporter of the Canadian freedom rally and I am not a far right Canadian oil worker. I have been a liberal voter all my life. But the current liberal party in Canada is not practicing actual liberal actions. I am a supporter of bodily sovereignty and indigenous wisdom. These are very confusing and frustrating times for many of us.
12:02:37 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
That’s very nice of you - thank you!
12:04:01 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Woodstock!
12:05:11 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
I love it
12:05:56 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
there is no "continuum" of political ideologies-- it is a CIRCLE, where human irrationality & emotions bring the right & left together, where they join forces at the point on the Circle.
12:06:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I love that, Marilyn.
12:06:42 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
That's beautiful Marilyn.
12:07:02 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
Marilyn, yes!
12:08:13 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
I think I remember that - freepress.org. EIther way, thank you for the work
12:10:35 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
We need to convince the Dems to stop raising money for deadlines… They insult my intelligence by not mentioning actual issues instead of saying give money before our midnight deadlie… I don't give money for deadlines… The dems need to raise money for the issues and policcies they stand for. If all they stand for is a monthly deadline, they’re going to be dead in the water.
12:10:47 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
less than 30% of youth cast a vote in 2010
12:11:26 From Diane SKIDMORE to Everyone:
Except many of them won't vote!!!
12:11:36 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
But remember how many women voted for Trump.
12:11:42 From Diane SKIDMORE to Everyone:
(Women and millennials have lost faith!!)
12:11:53 From Doreen Tanenbaum to Everyone:
Agree Stan, the individual organization are creating a turn off.
12:12:18 From Diane SKIDMORE to Everyone:
and corporations are running the show!!
12:13:01 From Harvey "Sluggo" Wasserman to Host and Panelists:
THE PEOPLE’S SPIRAL OF US HISTORY ; write me at solartopia@gmail.com
12:13:46 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
He said 42% - that's a lot of women!!!
12:14:00 From Carlos Prosser to Everyone:
Great reflection: the worst and more powerfull enemy of big Destroyer corporations, authoritarian people, is particpatory democracy, the real one
12:14:09 From Doreen Tanenbaum to Everyone:
Agree they are asleep at the switch….i
12:14:38 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
The right has only two issues, abortion and guns. If Roe is overturned, women won’t be there in large numbers for the right.
12:14:45 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
Roe was on the line in 2016. not enuf women cared. Trump was supported by majority white women
12:15:08 From Kay Kuehn to Host and Panelists:
Agree with Stan - the funding requests by the Dems are full of deadlines and other advertising stunts like fake surveys instead of issues. find it insulting.
12:15:32 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
I am inviting a group of women (men if interested) to an Activism 101 zoom session on Sunday at 7:45pm Est - if anyone here is interested send me your email address. My friends and I are definitely interested in what further actions we can take. I'm attaching the Democracy Humanity Rising sessions from a couple of weeks ago for people to watch to prepare.
12:15:40 From Harvey "Sluggo" Wasserman to Host and Panelists:
grassrootsep.org
12:15:54 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
12:16:01 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
Full disclosure - I am a millennial, and yes I have lost faith in our system (in Canada)
12:16:02 From SherieStar Stark to Host and Panelists:
Please repeat the “relational” campaigning idea? I’m part of voting rights group, and would like to pass this along to them!
12:16:03 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
just to make it click-able...
12:16:07 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Thank you for the grass roots meeting info
12:16:11 From Diane SKIDMORE to Everyone:
And money - stop feeding our money in to the corporations. If we withdraw our cash, they will be forced to change. Add education and we might just save the planet!!
12:16:23 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
I want the dems to establish a codre of email responders to do an email version of “door to Door.”
12:16:55 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
Manchin and Sinema standing in the way of Biden's agenda.
12:17:52 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
Clinton had to deal with Newt Ginrich & Contract with America
12:18:37 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Kathryn, I love you calling an Activism 101 zoom session on Sunday at 7:45pm Est. How can people contact you?
12:18:56 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://progressive.org/topics/harvey-wasserman/::
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Wasserman::
::https://www.commondreams.org/author/harvey-wasserman::
12:20:04 From Diane SKIDMORE to Everyone:
Weaponism - cowboys - USA xxx
12:20:42 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Jesus was a radical...
12:20:50 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I follow in His footsteps.
12:20:53 From Diane SKIDMORE to Everyone:
Christianity - all you need is Love
12:21:14 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
(Haven’t yet figured out the walking on water thing, though…)
12:21:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
🙂
12:21:32 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Feel free to include your email address here, or email me at mixmasterkt@yahoo.com and put in the subject line - in caps- INVITATION to ACTIVISM. Thanks for asking, Shannon!
12:22:27 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
I love that - Solartopia - I can't wait to take a look and find out more!
12:22:40 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Talk to people via email…. right now there is no way I can find to actually have a conversation with a candidate’s campaign.
12:22:49 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
Social democracy, oh yes!
12:22:55 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
Jim, Kathryn Augustine has invited people to an Activism 101 zoom session on Sunday at 7:45pm EST
12:23:11 From Carlos Prosser to Everyone:
Jesus is one of my beloved masters. A Cultural Change Maker, a leader for a new kind of society, in that sense he still is radical
12:23:19 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
Jim - she says: email me at mixmasterkt@yahoo.com and put in the subject line - in caps- INVITATION to ACTIVISM.
12:23:31 From Diane SKIDMORE to Everyone:
So..... Universal Basic Income as a starter xxx
12:23:55 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
UBI, and more…
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12:23:59 From Diane SKIDMORE to Everyone:
and no lobbying (regardless of parties)
12:24:35 From Carlos Prosser to Everyone:
In every country we need a New Party
12:25:14 From Diane SKIDMORE to Everyone:
We need a new system - no parties, just people. Every person takes responsibility for every thought/move
12:25:19 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://usa1lib.org/book/5950512/a129ab:: (Total Loss Farm by Raymond Mungo 2014 EPUB, 1.09 MB)
12:25:29 From Diane SKIDMORE to Everyone:
A Manifesto for the World
12:25:36 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
My drug of choice is still Acid!
12:26:10 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Horray for LSD… My work was stimulated by hearing about the Whole Earth Catalog on a trip.
12:26:27 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
It's like psychedelics are a gateway to quantum thinking, it changes the world 💖
12:26:32 From Kay Kuehn to Host and Panelists:
Lobbying isn’t the problem - people need to have the right to talk to legislators. The problem is money. We need to have strict controls on campaign donations.
12:26:44 From Diane SKIDMORE to Everyone:
Believe it or not, fasting, fresh air and breathing methods take you to the same plane. Ask Stan Grof!!
12:27:10 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
Thank you for your lifetime of activism and passion, Harvey.
12:27:12 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
Yes Diane, so true! Wim Hof and other breathing techniques are also a great way to reach that plane
12:27:13 From Diane SKIDMORE to Everyone:
Although micro-dosing mushrooms is pretty good too
12:27:29 From Theresa El-Amin to Everyone:
I was at the founding convention of the US Labor Party in Cleveland in 1996. Progressive unions in the AFL-CIO voted to break with the Democratic Party. John Sweeney, AFL-CIO President, demanded the US Labor Party not run candidates against the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is the graveyard of social movements. That fact was proven by the Obama administration and the commitment to endless war. Joe Biden is the worst of the war hawks.
12:27:34 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
unaware people taking acid is dangerous. Should be indulged in with guidance. both LSD and mushrooms are very powerful!!
12:27:38 From Harvey "Sluggo" Wasserman to Host and Panelists:
write me!!! solartopia@me.com
12:27:40 From Diane SKIDMORE to Everyone:
Imagine our better world ❤️ 😍
12:27:42 From Marie-France Lepage to Everyone:
Quite another meaning to "Stone Age"....
12:27:45 From Harvey "Sluggo" Wasserman to Host and Panelists:
THE PEOPLE’S SPIRAL OF US HISTORY
12:27:45 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://usa1lib.org/book/3630089/a47f1b:: (The Port Huron Statement: Sources and Legacies of the New Left’s Founding Manifesto by Richard Flacks, Nelson Lichtenstein (eds.) 2015 PDF, 2.78 MB the most important manifesto of the New Left student movement of the 1960s.)
12:27:47 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
I appreciated this dialogue so much, very powerful. I'm grateful to be here
12:27:58 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
This has been soooooo gooooood!!!!
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12:28:19 From Diane SKIDMORE to Everyone:
Thank you soooo much - arrived late but - made it and still alive!! Yaaaay!!!
12:28:19 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
Thank you!
12:28:25 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Harvey and Jim, Thank you. Great stories, great vision, great conversation. Come back!!
12:28:38 From Nina Hipperson to Host and Panelists:
Name of your book SLOWLY
12:28:46 From Doreen Tanenbaum to Everyone:
Thank you all!
12:28:51 From Diane SKIDMORE to Everyone:
So many of us still active!!!
12:29:05 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Lots to digest! Door to door. Person to person! Love leads the way.
12:29:14 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Nina, see above, or come to the AfterChat and we'll talk about it... just click the button…
12:29:21 From Diane SKIDMORE to Everyone:
The movement is still on - happening now!!!
12:29:25 From Carlos Prosser to Everyone:
Yes we can Harvey, we can mawe great and miracolous changes
12:29:26 From Hilde Paz to Everyone:
Lots of Love.
12:29:38 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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12:29:47 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Harvey, come to the Humanity Rising Fan club…. It's called the AfterChat… You can join the After Chat here:
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12:29:47 From Kay Kuehn to Host and Panelists:
I’d love to see Harvey back sometime
12:29:49 From Theresa El-Amin to Everyone:
Be a politically conscious revolutionary. Very disappointed in Wasserman.
12:29:52 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Sorry I won't be able to make after chat today - what a great discussion - THANK YOU !!!
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