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Humanity Rising Day 480 After Chat – Thursday May 19, 2022
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00:32:38 Diane S: Agree Shannon - Kevin, good idea to write to Jim and ask him xxx
00:33:31 Diane S: Communication - answer to everything xxx
00:34:31 Stanley Pokras: This is the Afterchat for Day 480
00:34:59 Karri-ann Flater: I think it is unfortunate you were removed Kevin, I think your perspective is important. Full disclosure I am a supporter of the freedom rally. I have a my own perspective and I am open to having a dialogue with you. These conversations are important.
00:35:58 Kevin He/him Canada: Kevinguyan@gmail.com
00:36:02 Diane S: Good to see you Stan, Realised you were not here and maybe unwell so - great that you are here again xxx
00:36:30 Diane S: I thought he was a star!!!
00:36:38 Diane S: (Harvey!!
00:37:10 Diane S: We need a whole new system xxx
00:37:15 Theresa El-Amin: I'm in the Green Party!
00:37:26 Shannon McArthur: me too, Theresa.
00:40:51 Kevin He/him Canada: BURNING PINK
00:40:58 Kevin He/him Canada: BEYOND POLITICS
00:41:47 Kevin He/him Canada: A blend of matriarchal and youth in community management , like neighborocracy AND Indigenous Consensus
00:42:27 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): good to hear from a millenial!
00:42:58 Theresa El-Amin: Minor parties are forced off the ballot by Democrats and Republicans. We need a People's alternative to the Democrats! The Democratic Party cannot be reformed. You are not my people. I'm with Black, Indigenous People of Color (BIPOC) who are being murdered in the name of white supremacy. Not one mention of the violent, white supremacist culture where "good" white people remain silent. Shame on all liberals who do nothing!
00:43:21 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): Just curious, the truck convoy, that was for what? -- opposing masks?
00:43:23 Diane S: Hooray for your voice Karri-ann - Well done!!
00:43:57 Diane S: Me too!! Support writing to Jim.
00:44:08 Diane S: Been there - done that!!
00:44:16 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): By the way Theresa I am very active in SURJ - Showing Up for Racial Justice - a white allies group
00:46:28 Shannon McArthur: 08:56:22 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
From the Jan 2020 railway actions across Canada; where for 3 WEEKS the railway system was reported as locked down… Greta tweeted her support for the #wetsuwetenstrong and in less than 24 hours there was 28 locations including non-indigenous allies.
00:47:39 Diane S: Maybe it was something he said previously!! (three before)
00:50:05 Theresa El-Amin: SURJ is a good thing. Unfortunately, there is a lack of accountability, consistency and transparency inside SURJ formations from my experience. Too much navel gazing silence from SURJ. A bunch of autonomous groups of mostly white liberals making each other feel good. After Buffalo, what is SURJ doing? SURJ is a talk shop of white people.
00:50:34 Diane S: Like the chat about citizens' Assemblies. Our council set one up. It has meant nothing!!!
00:51:09 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): okay Theresa thank you for that; but please note that I am on the inside
00:52:58 Theresa El-Amin: Ken, my point is moving beyond the Eurocentric culture of individualism.
00:54:21 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): Theresa, I think that is well said
00:55:12 Diane S: Gotta go too xxxxx
00:55:22 Shannon McArthur: bye Diane... love you
00:55:36 Diane S: xxxxxxxxxx Love you too xxxxx
00:57:00 Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue in Belize: What happened in Buffalo?
00:57:08 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): By the way, I worked for Mondaire Jones, the African-American, gay young man who at least professed very progressive values, and he won a highly contested primary, and then the general in my district
00:57:42 Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue in Belize: or Jewness!
00:59:43 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): I'm sorry Theresa left, I wonder if she did not recognize the work and efforts of white people here. I took the basic Undoing Racism workshop and work on the issues consistently in SURJ
01:02:53 Shannon McArthur: Ken, it would be lovely to hear your voice in this conversation… I'd love to hear more.
01:04:26 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): you think?
01:04:44 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): the EC is garbage
01:08:16 Pamela Schreiner: I am leaving. Thanks. For me the interesting question from the talk were about their different perceptions of Putin. We learned from Jim in the last talk.
01:08:29 Shannon McArthur: Thanks for coming, Pamela!
01:18:47 Kevin He/him Canada: “Whatever they wanna be called now……”. Sarah, thats an offensive statement
01:19:30 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): Yes, Unfortunately, I agree with Kevin, that was shockingly offensive
01:20:41 Shannon McArthur: I'm with you. And my mother has used the N word... As women of age, the expectation may be that they will be forgiven for their lack of respect.
01:23:25 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): Just a suggestion, to Carol Sue, maybe to check out the Indigenous Solidarity Network, ISN, and maybe gain some further knowledge
01:24:28 Shannon McArthur: Thank you, Ken. That's helpful.
01:25:17 Shannon McArthur: Going now... thank you so much for today, and every day! Blessings…
01:25:54 Kevin He/him Canada: Ken, Kevinguyan@gmail.com. Lets connect
01:26:31 Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize: I have been out of the country since they have a politically correct name. What is it?
01:26:38 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): I have to go to, feel better Stanley, be well everyone, and thank you; … Kevin, I am khaldenstein@optonline.net
01:26:59 Karri-ann Flater: Thank you everyone. Awareness and deep listening is how we heal and rise together. Have a beautiful day friends 💖
01:27:25 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): I drove a car in Perugia and almost killed myself
01:34:57 Sherie Stark: I want to share the video template that my elders for sound democracy is starting, a grassroots voice of the people
01:34:59 Sherie Stark: ::https://youtu.be/DLxbFgM7QMw::
01:39:12 Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize: A friend just called to tell me it is a Jewish Holiday today
01:40:43 Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize: It is a holiday about a Rabbi that spend 17 years in a cave hiding out from the Romans in the 1st or 2nd Century.
01:41:12 Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize: It is also about Rabbi Akiva Not sure about spelling
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