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Humanity Rising Day 249 Chat Page – Monday May 17, 2021
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Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:02 AM)
Happy Monday Everyone!
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (11:02 AM)
Is this a lecture or a dialogue?
First, you must be capable of Love...in each and every moment of daily life...once and for all, now and forever.
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (11:04 AM)
Do we all see the fact that Love is the complete and utter absence of the me, the self, the ego, and the so-called True or Higher Self, which are different fragments of the I, which is an illusion invented by thought?
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (11:07 AM)
YOU are the book that must be read. All other books are secondhand accounts of that book.
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:08 AM)
He was instrumental in my growth as well. The Bead Game was seminal!
Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees (11:08 AM)
Oh, Rilke!
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (11:09 AM)
You must stand alone.
No teachers. No books.
No beliefs. No concepts.
No techniques. No rituals.
No saviors. No gods.
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (11:10 AM)
Then and only then is there awareness of what is...the isness...the fact, the act, the actual...what is actually taking place from moment to moment in daily life, which opens the portal to a Whole New Way of Living rooted in Love and Wisdom for the very first time...in each and every moment of daily life...once and for all, now and forever.
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (11:11 AM)
WE get to be the powerfully vibrating tuning fork of Love that when we come close to others ~ they begin to resonate The Peace in Everything, Everything With Peace. Here’s an 8 minute video on a PeaceMaker Meditation. Groups are forming together or through teleconference to bring more Peace to the Planet. Here's a Meditation practice that can greatly help. ::https://youtu.be/noUBgVogMw4::. Peace in Everything, Everything with Peace will reverberate throughout your day… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and ‘others.’
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:11 AM)
I love the tuning fork analogy, Kurt!
Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (11:12 AM)
"Books"
"All the books of the world
will not bring you happiness,
but build a secret path
toward your heart
What you need is in you:
the sun, the stars, the moon,
the illuminations you were seeking
shines up from within you.
The quest for wisdom
made you comb the libraries.
Now every page speaks the truth
that flashes forth from you."
-- Hermann Hesse
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (11:12 AM)
I was one of those Americans with Herman Hesse in my backpack. I have also visited his home in Lugano. I hope that Ludiwig’s books get further notice as Herman Hesse was a visionary genius.
Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (11:14 AM)
Find 2,930 Hesse quotes starting with a lovely meditation on trees: ::https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/1113469.Hermann_Hesse::
Jim Garrison to Panelists and Attendees (11:14 AM)
Ludwig is doing a course with us on Hesse:::https://www.ubiquityuniversity.org/courses/hermann-hesse-soul-self-and-society-in-times-of-crisis-oct-7-14-21-and-28-2021/::
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (11:15 AM)
Stories prevent awareness. Stories are the past. Stories are the old. Stories are a dead thing. Stories are not what is happening now which is the new.
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (11:17 AM)
Authority, be it the inner authority of the I, the me, the self or the outer authority of another, is the denial of Love.
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (11:20 AM)
As long as the mind is filled with stories, beliefs, philosophies, ideologies, experiences, etc, there is no Attention...none whatsoever.
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (11:21 AM)
Do we all see the fact that beliefs, philosophies, ideologies, and identifications with any race, ethnicity, nation, or religion, feed the illusion of division and separation from everyone and everything, which breeds fear, anxiety, suffering, confusion, loneliness, addiction, envy, greed, jealousy, vanity, hatred, violence, bias, and prejudice?
Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (11:21 AM)
Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (11:21 AM)
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (11:27 AM)
Silence means no I, no me, no self, no so-called True or Higher Self in daily life.
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:29 AM)
great point!
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (11:32 AM)
All that makes up Ludwig (the self-image, one’s identity, the thinker, the experiencer, the chooser, the controller, the censor) must come to a complete and utter end, then and only then is there Inner Silent Space.
Silence can not be cultivated. Cultivation is the movement of time. Silence is not of time.
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (11:36 AM)
Knowledge is always limited. It is incapable of ever giving birth to Wisdom.
The word is not the thing.
The description is not the described.
The symbol is not the thing.
The map is not the territory.
The menu is not the food.
Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (11:38 AM)
17 Hesse poems, most translated by James Wright (1970): ::https://allpoetry.com/Hermann-Hesse::
Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees (11:41 AM)
Jacob, thank you for your lecture, very interesting. I will reflect upon it.
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (11:42 AM)
“Dance steps of the soul.. make speech visible.. metaphors of longings…magic spells.|
Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees (11:45 AM)
rime and rythm, love those, makes you fly.
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:47 AM)
beautiful handwriting
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:47 AM)
very funny Ludwig!
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (11:48 AM)
You must let go of what all others have said in order to be aware of what is...the isness...the fact, the act, the actual...what is actually taking place from moment to moment in daily life.
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)
Stop seeking. Just stop. All so very simple.
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (11:50 AM)
“When we have learned how to listen to trees, then the brevity and the quickness and the childlike hastiness of our thoughts achieve an incomparable joy.” Hesse
Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (11:51 AM)
A similar book that mentions Hesse (127 pp.): The Third Ear: On Listening to the World by Joachim-Ernst Berendt (1988): ::https://e-edu.nbu.bg/pluginfile.php/847601/mod_resource/content/1/Joachim-E-Berendt%20-The%20Third%20Ear%201988%20small.pdf::
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (11:52 AM)
The complete and utter end of inner conflict, anxiety, and sorrow is the beginning of Peace for the very first time, in each and every moment of daily life. Once and for all, now and forever.
Gyorgyi Szabo to Panelists and Attendees (11:52 AM)
Thank you for your kind words dear Ludwig!
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (11:53 AM)
Would you read the HAPPINESS poem in German, Please?
Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees (11:54 AM)
We have umlauts as well; Swedish.
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)
Slavik Language has also the same ch sound :)
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)
Greek language too
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)
so much in commonality :)
Monica Affleck to Panelists and Attendees (11:58 AM)
Thank you Ludwig - I live in Canada but am originally from Switzerland - hearing you read prose in English and German is balm for my soul:)
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (11:59 AM)
You should listen to the Dark Night of the Soul in Spanish .. St John of the Cross
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:00 PM)
What a beautiful way to start off the week! Thank you Ludwig!
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:01 PM)
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With love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (12:01 PM)
Do we want to be in trance OR do we want to Wake Up?
Marilyn Schramm to Panelists and Attendees (12:02 PM)
wake up from the imposed trance & choose your own
Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (12:05 PM)
A sample (Fischer, trans.): ::https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Seasons_of_the_Soul/9SQ2_X24s9EC?hl=en&gbpv=1::
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)
Do we all see the fact that we are not a manifestation of the fullness of the Light until there is Inner Total Silence, which means the complete and utter end of the me, the self, the ego, and the so-called True or Higher Self, which are different fragments of the I, which is an illusion invented by thought.
Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (12:07 PM)
Another sample: ::https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Seasons_of_Life/Zr--DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1::
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (12:07 PM)
Ludwig is a limitation and distortion of the Light.
Ask this question: Who is speaking? Who is writing books?
Me to Panelists (12:08 PM)
Does anyone among the Humanity Rising staff think that we ought to advise Jacob Sabat to take his own advice and be silent?
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)
You must go deeper. See the self and what it is.
Richard Buckley to Me, Panelists (12:10 PM)
We are watching his chat.
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)
Yes, thank you ithe rise of authoritarianism & totalitarianism is so frightening now. The danger is real and profound now and we need more immune enhancements of the great thinkers l and “sacred word activists” like Hesse
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)
It is also the intent and vibration behind our words, whether spoken or written.
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)
Words are never ever the Sacred.
Jim Garrison to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)
Ludwig’s course again on Hesse coming up in October: ::https://www.ubiquityuniversity.org/courses/hermann-hesse-soul-self-and-society-in-times-of-crisis-oct-7-14-21-and-28-2021/::
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)
The intellect is a very small part of one’s total being.
Tahdi Blackstone to Panelists and Attendees (12:11 PM)
And my favorite of all Herman Hesse’s books is the unheard of “If The War Goes On.”
Marilyn Schramm to Panelists and Attendees (12:11 PM)
Jacob, then consider -- your words are a limitation & distraction. practice silence.
Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)
The Call of Spring
Every child thrills to the call of spring:
live, grow, blossom, hope, and love.
Send out your branches, make everything new,
be fearless and give in to living.
Every old man hears the message of spring
whose ripening days all fall toward the grave.
Make way for all the blossoming boys,
be fearless and give in to dying.
-- Hesse (trans. Fischer, The Seasons of Life)
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)
Practice prevents Inner Silence.
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)
Thank you Leo
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)
Stillness means no I, no me, no self, no so-called True or Higher Self in daily life.
Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)
In my view, it was the “words” of Martin Luther King & Malcolm X & their poetic deliveries that led to a creative tension in the U.S. to fuel and nurture the actions for Civll Rights in the U. S. in
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)
No stories, no beliefs, no philosophies, no ideologies, no identification with any race, ethnicity, nation, or religion
Richard Buckley to Me, Panelists (12:16 PM)
Thank you Stanley.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)
Only the words contained in the song that we sing - that carries the spirit. When we sing together.... we love xxxxx
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)
There is no Jacob. Is there a Richard?
Clare Rosenfield to Panelists and Attendees (12:17 PM)
wow I love this I am a poet and this has inspired me SO much
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:17 PM)
Wow!! Yes!! A different song!!!
Monica Affleck to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)
sound bath - what a beautiful term
Melodie Land to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)
I've always love Hesse. This has been wonderful!
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)
I love it, “a sound bath”.
Jacob Sabat to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)
No outside agency is capable of setting you Totally Free.
Savanah to Panelists and Attendees (12:19 PM)
Jacob, do you feel this appreciation of words negates the energy of silence?
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:19 PM)
Thank you Ludwig!
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:19 PM)
Wow!!! Beautiful!! Joyful!!! Thank you xxx
Monica Affleck to Panelists and Attendees (12:20 PM)
Thank you Ludwig!
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:20 PM)
Everything is frequency…!
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)
Have heard of this book
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)
Yes. the words and the sounds may not BE the spirit but they carry the spirit
"And I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now" :-) xxx
Marilyn Schramm to Panelists and Attendees (12:22 PM)
there is no SILENCE. sound emanates throughout the cosmos.
Richard Buckley to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:24 PM)
Would love to have this session on HR!
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:24 PM)
A season on language would be wonderful!!!
Rain Martin to Panelists and Attendees (12:24 PM)
Bless you and thank you, Ludwig Max Fischer! And Humanity Rising….. deep gratitude
Richard Buckley to Panelists and Attendees (12:24 PM)
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
Thank you SO much Hudwig!!! Truly wonderful.
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
The ecology of language is so important and thank you for this sound healing session.
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
Dankaschun.
Debra Kaiser to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
Ludwig, grateful appreciation for this blessed sharing today. You have offered a meaningful gift to me this day. I give thanks.
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
Please come to the after chat
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:26 PM)
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..oOo..
With love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
..oOo..
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Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)
Thank you Everyone!
Richard Buckley to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)
Thank you indeed xxx
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