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Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:01 AM)

Happy Wednesday Everyone!

Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees (11:02 AM)

Good Morning from the sunny woods of North Carolina.

Crystal Steinberg to Panelists and Attendees (11:03 AM)

Doreen:  What Indigenous peoples historically lived in your area?

Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:03 AM)

It's DAY 161 --- Wow!

Beth Sanders (she/her) Edmonton to Panelists and Attendees (11:03 AM)

Good day to you all! Happy Day 161!

Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees (11:04 AM)

Cherokee

Raquel Torrent to Panelists and Attendees (11:04 AM)

In Spain they OBLIGED an old woman to vaccinate !!!

Crystal Steinberg to Panelists and Attendees (11:04 AM)

Thank you:)

Richard Dunne to Panelists and Attendees (11:07 AM)

Greetings everyone. Great to be here. Richard and The Harmony Project

Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:08 AM)

Hello from Philadelphia residing on the lands of the Lanape

David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees (11:08 AM)

Health, wholeness, and a good morning from cloudy coastal South Carolina…

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:08 AM)

Good morning, my friends. Please include Attendees in this Chat - pulling together in One

Crystal Steinberg to Panelists and Attendees (11:10 AM)

As well as the genocide that began against Indigenous peoples here long before the government was formed ?

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:11 AM)

ya,  that too.

AnaLuz Kohl to Panelists and Attendees (11:12 AM)

Yes, we cannot forget the indigenous peoples. Hello from Albuquerque, NM.

Raquel Torrent to Panelists and Attendees (11:13 AM)

How about the indigenous people that were there in the ample lands of United States, because a lot about is siad about racism referring to the blacks but what about the indians ???

sharon to Panelists and Attendees (11:13 AM)

Good morning to all on a stormy day in Seattle.

Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees (11:14 AM)

The Bronze statue surmounting the Dome of the United States Capitol and facing to the East. is known as the Statue of Freedom. The figure is that of a woman clad in flowing draperies with her right hand resting upon the hilt of a sheathed sword and her left holding a wreath and grasping a shield. Freedom was designed by Thomas Crawford,

Toni Van Duyne to Panelists and Attendees (11:14 AM)

Hi everyone from Barcelona.

Raquel Torrent to Panelists and Attendees (11:14 AM)

Hello dear Marilyn !!! Much love to you !!!

David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees (11:14 AM)

Surely everyone has read 1491…

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:15 AM)

Dear David. not likely. ;)

Sarita Patel to Panelists and Attendees (11:15 AM)

York was the banning capital of England. “New” York was its replica in America.

AnaLuz Kohl to Panelists and Attendees (11:16 AM)

An excellent recent work on the indigenous peoples in what is now the United States is The Other Slavery: The Uncovered Story of Indian Enslavement in America, by Andres Resendez.

Raquel Torrent to Panelists and Attendees (11:16 AM)

Thank you Analuz !!!

Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees (11:19 AM)

Gratitude and greetings from Breakthrough Communities from the SF Bay Region (Ohlone territory)  - appreciated the Washington discussion.)

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:21 AM)

Ah Richard, you remind me why I SO loved the Bay Area. Centuries without war. there is a love in the land there I’ve not found in any other place.

Raquel Torrent to Panelists and Attendees (11:21 AM)

I know about this work and what it called my attention the most is that only 2% of those 100 people Will have real abundance and 80 something % would be poor !!!

Richard Buckley to Panelists and Attendees (11:21 AM)

bios - post when intros going on https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xW8wkHHQSqvckagarKdQs5rtqO4WKF_iuYa2p5mAQvw/edit

Julie Wolf to Panelists and Attendees (11:22 AM)

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:22 AM)

Thank you AnaLuz

Raquel Torrent to Panelists and Attendees (11:22 AM)

Hello VAndan !!! Sooo Good that you could make it and be here !!!

Richard Buckley to Panelists and Attendees (11:22 AM)

bios - post when intros going on https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xW8wkHHQSqvckagarKdQs5rtqO4WKF_iuYa2p5mAQvw/edit

Crystal Steinberg to Panelists and Attendees (11:24 AM)

thank you Soti!

Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees (11:27 AM)

Welcome Soni….I heard you and I am with you.

MALINI Rajendran to Panelists and Attendees (11:28 AM)

Jedi Awesome.

Ken Haldenstein to Panelists and Attendees (11:28 AM)

Greetings from Sarasota, Florida, where I am visiting for the winter

Annelies Weijschede to Panelists and Attendees (11:29 AM)

Shweta… that exites, can you share them in the chat?

Shweta Srivastav, Lucknow to Panelists and Attendees (11:33 AM)

@ Annelies - happy to share

Adopt the Attitude of

a Custodian

Shift the

Locus of

Power at Multiple Levels

Seek &

Share True

Cost

Foster Community as a Force for

Systemic Change

Share Knowledge & Practices of Inclusive & Regenerative Systems

Co-create

a Shared

Future

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:36 AM)

Welcome Vandana. Good to see you here. Bless you and your work.

Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees (11:37 AM)

Yes ….Vandana  it is time

Annelies Weijschede to Panelists and Attendees (11:38 AM)

thank you @Shweta

AnaLuz Kohl to Panelists and Attendees (11:38 AM)

Yes, Vandana!

Crystal Steinberg to Panelists and Attendees (11:39 AM)

Aho . . .

Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees (11:39 AM)

We have to wake up to it the abuse on our land and peoples

Annelies Weijschede to Panelists and Attendees (11:39 AM)

fighting for the soil and living systems

Karen Ball to Panelists and Attendees (11:40 AM)

Take this in a minute:  White supremacy took life from everything.

Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees (11:41 AM)

Welcome Vandana - your work is so shining in this moment - Indian farmers surrounding the capital fighting for the soul and soil of India. Agroecology - and the indigenous rising -  Quantum Theory stream, Ecological stream of interconnectedness, Political stream of governance - Self organization -  deep gratitude  From Paloma Pavel  (Breakthrough Communities/Earth House Center)

franka to Panelists and Attendees (11:41 AM)

what are Soni‘s principles?

Crystal Steinberg to Panelists and Attendees (11:41 AM)

We must be still and take it in . . .

Aida Merriweather to Panelists and Attendees (11:44 AM)

where is this black madonna Paddy is talking about located

Raquel Torrent to Panelists and Attendees (11:45 AM)

Beautifully put and felt Paddy. Thanks !!!

Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees (11:47 AM)

Karen,  yes, arrogance takes away from the balance and love of the Divine system.

franka to Panelists and Attendees (11:47 AM)

de-colonize the mind

AnaLuz Kohl to Panelists and Attendees (11:47 AM)

Soweto, Black Madonna by artist named Scully

Raquel Torrent to Panelists and Attendees (11:48 AM)

YES !!!

Aida Merriweather to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)

Thank you, AnaLuz

Paddy Pompallis Cape Town to Panelists and Attendees (11:50 AM)

Hi all yes - this is the original painting here and it was transferred onto a  stained glass window in the cathedral at Soweto in Johannesburg; put up in 1976 in the midst of the Soweto riots.  I am custodian for the last 15 years and sadly it has to leave tomorrow.

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:50 AM)

Yes, marilyn - the governance of care - that IS the propose of governance.

Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees (11:54 AM)

reflection on reflection …Vandana - would love to learn more about the offerings at Earth University when you speak again - Palomapavel77@gmail.com

Raquel Torrent to Panelists and Attendees (11:54 AM)

Every day I wake up trusting that the world is going to be there for me, the air, the people, the village, the city, the government and my planet as a whole !!!

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:54 AM)

Oh Paddy, I’m so sorry that you must part with her. She is so important, and beautiful

Crystal Steinberg to Panelists and Attendees (11:54 AM)

Thank you Paddy:  Is there a way to include image in chat?

Aida Merriweather to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)

Thank you, Paddy for the information on the Madonna & Child painting

Paddy Pompallis Cape Town to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)

Yes - thank you Shannon… sad and its a letting go : will try and put an image up.

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:56 AM)

Ha, I discovered I have more trust with those different from me than with those similar. The heart resonance is the key, for me. That is what si missing so often in white community - not always, but often.

Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees (11:57 AM)

MiraMichelle the tramua has to be cleanse

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:58 AM)

MiraMichelle, my sister, mmmmmmmmm…

Jane Norton to Panelists and Attendees (11:58 AM)

MiraMIchelle. Come to the US> Capitol. It needs cleansing.

Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees (11:58 AM)

Gia brings it us as we move on the planet we can’t just cover over the trauma it must be owed up and cleansed

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:59 AM)

There are many doing cleansing work - very important. It can be done in many ways, being sensitive to the hurt brings awareness of the need to heal.

Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees (12:00 PM)

Agree Kathryn being aware

Unbfortunately I have to leave you now and I want to recognize all the panelist, Marilyn, Beth, Rick and Jim, and surely all of you my dear Chat Friends !!!

Yes, Stanley, it is a choice. We need to look at our choices, and the choice we make about others’ truths.

Thank you Stanley!

I agree it is the choice we make. But what about those who have had that privilege to choose taken away from them. When they are forced into subjugation and faced with what soni shared.

@raquel ...thanks so much for your vibrancy

MiraMichelle Thank you for your work.  Profound and so necessary.  it is what I have been feeling and processing for years.  So good to be here with all the brilliance here on this panel, today.

Malini choice is never taken away - it is always ours. Choice does not mean we have control of our situation, but chose our experience.

MALINI Rajendran to Panelists and Attendees (12:04 PM)

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Crystal Steinberg to Panelists and Attendees (12:05 PM)

I have been amazed by the safe space and trust created by indigenous people’s who have been colonized, abused and murdered who still love, offer hospitality and invite us to sweat, dance and sing together.

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:05 PM)

Yes, Crystal. yes.

MALINI Rajendran to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)

Kathryn : I agree we choose or experiences. But there are times when with a gun to your head or a sword at your throat the choice is no longer ours to make at that moment.

AnaLuz Kohl to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)

Crystal, yes, so have I. The understanding of not-separation....

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:07 PM)

Malini, I disagree. I have been in that situation and I still had lots of choice

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:07 PM)

Malini, the choice is in how you react to the situation you find yourself in. Kurt can speak to that very well.

sharon to Panelists and Attendees (12:09 PM)

Beautiful Paddy, and  Taina.

MALINI Rajendran to Panelists and Attendees (12:09 PM)

It takes an evolved person to think the way you, kurt and me. But having been in the think of may social unrest situations and riots and invasions 9 out of 10 people do feel the choice removed from them.

Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)

Kathryn …I agree to having a choice but what if you are child and do not learn that you have a choice

Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)

John Vasconcellos, deceased former AHP president & a Calif. politician, called for a politics of Trust. As the current president of AHP (Association for Humanistic Psychology) & first person of color president, I have extended that notion to call for a politics of Truth. Here’s the link to my call article:  https://www.academia.edu/37301575/A_Humanistic_Approach_To_Politics_AHPs_Call_For_A_Politics_Of_TruthIn my view, both Trust & Truth are important for “good governance” of cities (& larger governance entities).

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:11 PM)

Malini, yes - being able to separate from ego and the fear of survival is hard, but that, for me, is the reason for working on spiritual growth - the discovery that we DO have choice.

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)

YAY Cuf - so nice to hear your voice! I so remember him and the conversation.

AnaLuz Kohl to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)

Trust, based on the world of giving, gifting. Yes....

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)

Taking is very different from receiving . That was one learning I had from my cancer journey.

Vandal, yes the role of care increasing trust is key to governance.

sharon to Panelists and Attendees (12:14 PM)

Vandana, you relate such Heart felt wisdom.

jan spencer to Panelists and Attendees (12:14 PM)

Capitalism is the product of colonialism and has colonized all of us, it is inherently un trustworthy

sharon to Panelists and Attendees (12:17 PM)

Vandana No other Way,

Paddy Pompallis Cape Town to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)

Those interested in the work Integral Africa through The Coaching Centre is doing go to slideshow of Urban Hub 23 for a short overview of the work my alumni  are doing: https://www.academia.edu/44873939/ Urban_Hub 23 Integral _Africa_Thrivable_Worlds

Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)

Thank You Vandana!

Crystal Steinberg to Panelists and Attendees (12:20 PM)

Exactly what has brought U.S. to where we presently stand . . .

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)

we are ONE Arising!!!

sharon to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)

Me too!

AnaLuz Kohl to Panelists and Attendees (12:22 PM)

Yes, transcending separation in our minds.... Thanks from the bottom of my heart, Vandana, everyone. Must go now. We are ONE arising, evolving!

Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:23 PM)

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Dear Chat PEOPLE and  panelists

In support of the topic of  living Cities some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes.

You can join the Zoom Meeting

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09

Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451

Passcode: 919541

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.       We have an email list for ChatPeople  where we  send a daily message that points to all of the HR recordings and Chats since mid July.

We also have an interactive list called ChatAction for people to discuss their broad interests. And list called Cities@chataction.org for discussions concerning cities.

Write to me to be added to one or all of the lists.

-- stan@communitymagic.org

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Sarita Patel to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)

No one person thrives in a village unless everyone thrives in the ground of fertile nourishment. retill and bless the soil.

Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)

Overcoming our metabolic rifts - such a helpful lens on our planetary challenge.

Karen Ball to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)

Vandana, thank you for the prophetic voice

sharon to Panelists and Attendees (12:24 PM)

Indra,  Yes! We are.....

Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees (12:24 PM)

Yes the vision is seen…

MALINI Rajendran to Panelists and Attendees (12:31 PM)

How does nature build trust?

Julie Wolf to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)

Do we have the link to Hugo's 7Vortex today here ?

Hugo Araujo / Mexico City to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)

Here is the link to today’s vortex https://www.7vortex.com/ecosystems/9dd0afb2-d491-4432-a16d-a03e9cf8c025/view

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)

Nature does not need to build  trust. imho. Nature is how we learn trust.

Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)

Beautifully said Hugo….loved that your vision of democracy needs to  reimaged

sharon to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)

Hugo, Thank You!!!!!!!! Beautiful.

MALINI Rajendran to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)

Natures Democracy? evolution, adaptation, symbiosis, coexistence, collaboration and diversity.

Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:33 PM)

Boom. Boom Boom... Trust comes when people help each other. Helpfulness brings people into focus!

Richard Buckley to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)

Resources and Links for Cities Rising https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zJDshHaiC2tXnMVw6lY80dffXEoLPqNa1TLXzHxUBVk/edit

Hugo Araujo / Mexico City to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)

We are part of a Metabolic Earth

ChangJi (DDMBA) to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)

Thank you Hugo for taking all the depth of these collective wisdom and making it visual.

Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)

Managing the intrinsic health of the whole IS our mission

Hugo Araujo / Mexico City to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)

Con mucho gusto… and from my heart (de Corazón)

Lesley Southwick-Trask to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)

The ChatPeople invite you to join after Humanity Rising ends.

After introductions and Q & A, we will break into 4 interactive breakouts for deeper conversations.

Each room will be recording the conversation to be shared with the whole in our daily summary email.

To receive the summary report with the links to each video recording (including this one(, write to stan@communitymagic.org

Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:34 PM)

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Dear Chat PEOPLE and  panelists

In support of the topic of  living Cities some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes.

You can join the Zoom Meeting

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09

Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451

Passcode: 919541

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Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:35 PM)

thank  you Lesley & Stan; see you there!

sharon to Panelists and Attendees (12:35 PM)

Thank you Beth.  So much to digest today.  Beautiful panel.

Richard Buckley to Panelists and Attendees (12:36 PM)

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