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Humanity Rising Day 108 Chat Page
- Date: Friday October 2, 2020 (2020-10-02)
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Text of the Zoom Chat from HR Day 108:
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:01 AM) Happy Friday Everyone!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:01 AM) Happy Friday From: the woods of North Carolina
From: Diane Skidmore (11:02 AM) Hi Everyone, Happy Friday
From: Bruce Schuman (11:04 AM) we either solve the problem together, or we don't exist…. so, happy morning -- but get your shoes tied....
From: Diane Skidmore (11:04 AM) Looking forward to making a difference : From: Sharon Truax (11:05 AM) good morning From: Seattle heartfelt blessings to all!
From: Jen Forti (11:05 AM) Blessings From: Portland, OR <3
From: Shannon McArthur (11:06 AM) Bless you all on this lovely morning - all things change. May all be well in your world!! please change your To to include attendees too. Thank you.
From: Me (11:07 AM) . ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541 ========================== . We also have an email list for Chat People to interact without being on at the sAM)e time. Write to be added to the list: -- stan@communitymagic.org ========================== . ..oOo..
From: Bruce Schuman (11:11 AM) The courage -- and the imagination and the vision -- to cross the threshold....
From: Diane Skidmore (11:11 AM) Gosh!@ Cindy - already inspiring - one of the most important facets of any way forward - how to educate the children about a Whole Inter-Connected Planet. Thank you.
From: Jen Forti (11:12 AM) That was beautiful Cindy. Is there a link you can share to what you just read?
From: Sharon Truax (11:13 AM) @cindy, beautiful and so wise as to what is taking place
From: Bruce Schuman (11:13 AM) complexity, confusion, fear, sadness -- which -- we must overcome -- together -- to cross the threshold.....
From: Diane Skidmore (11:15 AM) wow! Why are humans here and what are the Universal rules? What a start - a base for forward thinking
From: Bruce Schuman (11:16 AM) Yes -- this is the huge critical task: convening people! around common vision....
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:16 AM) Lateral thinking: Creativity Step by Step Book by Edward de Bono. If only systems would follow his guidelines we would have good systems and solutions.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:16 AM) Fantastic Christine - people are good so - convene to find ways forward
From: Bruce Schuman (11:16 AM) "the messy human heap is something you are fAM)iliar with"
From: Shannon McArthur (11:19 AM) “the invisible structures that are present in all successful villages” - Jon Young
From: Diane Skidmore (11:19 AM) So many brilliant sources out there and - so many of us with good intentions. Together we MUST pull through!! And wahaaaay - 'magical' and LOVE included!!!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:19 AM) good choice! Christine - come to Chat People!!
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:21 AM) we are in a reintegrating universe. where what doesn't work or sustain is disintegrated only to reintegrate.
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:22 AM) Thank you Christine for creating the thought form for us to create and imagine From:
From: Bruce Schuman (11:22 AM) Yes, gang. Let's build new models.
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:22 AM)
From: Shannon McArthur (11:22 AM) (hands rubbing together! From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:23 AM) @Bruce ….joining you and others for new models
From: Diane Skidmore (11:23 AM) @Bruce Yes. In partnership with the universe (and each other o' course From: Shannon McArthur (11:23 AM) o’course
From: Bruce Schuman (11:23 AM) @Doreen --and @Diane -- thank you! http://charterforcocreation.net/vision.cfm
From: Diane Skidmore (11:24 AM) And love the geometry!! Making it a thing of beauty (and intelligence!! From: MALINI Rajendran (11:24 AM) We cannot dominate the laws of the universe. that's what a microorganism has show us. its not even a cell its only a cluster of proteins and see the chaos its capable of causing. so there is no way we can dominate the laws of the universe.
From: Bruce Schuman (11:24 AM) wow -- perfect circle!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:25 AM) @Malini - no wish to dominate - only to find the flow and go with it
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:25 AM) @Bruce …thank you will participate, cannot always join chat after but engaged
From: Bruce Schuman (11:25 AM) that is beautiful -- From: women's circles, they say "a leader in every chair"
From: Me (11:25 AM) Steward Leader looks like a doughnut.. isn't that nice?
From: Shannon McArthur (11:25 AM) doughnut!!
From: Rachel Root (11:25 AM) @Malini thanks for the book
From: Shannon McArthur (11:26 AM) Stan - simultaneous expressions of donuts! Very sweet! “pear shape” is necessary for budding to happen… perhaps that’s what’s happening…
From: Bruce Schuman (11:28 AM) "a deep consideration of HOW we create that architecture" ! "could we do that with a collaborative polling system????"
From: Shannon McArthur (11:29 AM) perfect for polling
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:29 AM) I love your educational process to teach others how to gain the whole
From: Diane Skidmore (11:29 AM) Waiting for the pear to ripen and become part of the sweet So - re-exAM)ination of values!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:31 AM) value as opposed to values…
From: Shannon McArthur (11:32 AM) this is huge.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:32 AM) and/or xxx
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:32 AM) Wow ! so true.. People have a lot of problem valuing their true worth or the value of what they want. I would blAM)e the social conditioning created by advertising of the shiny object which has completely shifted whats important in our lives.
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:33 AM) Looks like Bohm’s “Wholeness and the Implicate Order” thinking and experience in the body
From: Me (11:33 AM) Building a network of networks - Syntropy!
From: Bruce Schuman (11:33 AM) "HOW do we actually DO this? This is the major huge question...…..
From: Diane Skidmore (11:33 AM) Gosh!! Building new models!! Brilliant!!
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:33 AM) Would love to see the accosting module and the reporting module for this concept.
From: Bruce Schuman (11:34 AM) How much time do we have? We need to be bold and maybe aggressive ("in a nice way" From: MALINI Rajendran (11:34 AM) @ Bruce, this is where I would use what Edward Do Bono does in every activity of creating a new paradigm
From: Diane Skidmore (11:34 AM) Going for Beauty and Joy instead of h... and fear!
From: Bruce Schuman (11:35 AM) "A global community of practice" -- great!
From: Me (11:35 AM) The r3.0 people are worth being looked at.
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:35 AM) Beautiful system
From: Diane Skidmore (11:35 AM) Wonderful Christine!! Well done!!!
From: Sharon Truax (11:35 AM) visionary and exciting!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:35 AM) Bruce, women have been trying to learn how to be aggressive ("in a nice way") - the word that has come is ascertive!
From: Mushin Patric Roberts (11:35 AM) Christine, I met you on 2:33AM) and friend of David Martin. What is Integrated Accounting intrinsic values in syntropic enterprises? Thanks
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:36 AM) It sounds like "intentional community living"-different door entrance, yet the principles of radical collaboration, love, curiosity,and exploration are main pillars.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:36 AM) @Liliane Yes!!! Stewarding! Love that word!!
From: Bruce Schuman (11:37 AM) "steward leader"
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:38 AM) @Christine. This is possible. you will have to work on the fundAM)ental parAM)eters of company law. It took us a long battle but we got the following incorporated into mandatory requirements in company law in India. 1. Environmatal initiative reporting. 2. CSR Corporate social responsibility - all designated companies have to commint 3 % of their turnover for CSR activities ( the ministry created a list of such activities From: Diane Skidmore (11:40 AM) 193 countries already signed up to global goals - great!!!
From: Bruce Schuman (11:40 AM) great point - not stupid people -- but a short-sighted "paradigm" that is blind to consequences.....
From: Diane Skidmore (11:40 AM) Correct @Bruce
From: Bruce Schuman (11:41 AM) and bring disease....
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:42 AM) At the cost of ruffling some furs this goes back to the principle of "Discovery" that is part of Christian theology From: the Vatican.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:42 AM) At the moment the whales are delivering messages and we (humans) are being deaf - sending them back to sea - 'rescuing' them,
From: Bruce Schuman (11:43 AM) try teaching climate change under Trump and your budget might be slashed
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:45 AM) This is what 300 Years of British Rule in India did, it complexly prevented one generation From: learning about traditional Indian wisdom. We did not read one single book written by Indian Authors. Or did not have any thing in our curriculum about the truth of Indian History, and the wisdom and knowledge of indian antiquity.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:45 AM) Just build a new model - forget arguing - the truth will screAM) at us - and them and everyone else too!
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:46 AM) Absolutely agree. Please also takeover the advertising platforms.
From: Bruce Schuman (11:46 AM) using the SDGs as a content guide -- great!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:47 AM) GAM)ES!!!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:47 AM) The whole system Malini - it will all go (yaaaay) - at last!! What a wonderful moment - aren't we lucky. And isn't this - FABULOUS!! Gonna show my grandchildren!!!
From: Bruce Schuman (11:48 AM) @Malini -- native AM)erican "Indians" had the sAM)e experience in the usa - having white culture and religion jAM)med down their throats
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:48 AM) @Cindy- we need to develop vertical education modules, where groups of children work and learn together on topics or projects. I spent years developing these modules , would be happy to share.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:48 AM) Care Share Dare!!!!! yaaaay!! By next week hahahaha
From: Shannon McArthur (11:48 AM) i love “How to fly a small planet”
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:48 AM) Brilliant #1
From: Diane Skidmore (11:49 AM) 2030? too far away!!
From: Bruce Schuman (11:49 AM) this is so great
From: Jen Forti (11:49 AM) This is AM)azing Cindy!
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:49 AM) Rewrite the advertising agendas of companies.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:49 AM) @Stan - a small clip here?
From: Barbro Esbjörnsdotter (11:49 AM) As a girl, I think I only had one book in school that was not written by a man. And that book was a novel by Nobel price Laureate Selma Lagerlöf.
From: Me (11:51 AM) Diane - I see my nAM)e, but don't understand what small clip you mean.
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:52 AM) How many shoes do you need? How many toys do you need ? How many clothes do you need. ?How many cool devices do you need? why do you waste food From: your plate? why do you waste water, when you bath, ,brush your teeth and wash your house? How many houses do you need?
From: Sharon Truax (11:52 AM) direct experience. it is happening in some schools here.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:52 AM) make a little video of this particular presentation - to share xxx @Stan - see above
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:53 AM) @ my grandchildren use a lot of this digital learning and then they watch barbie and want a new shoe or dress.
From: Jen Forti (11:54 AM) Here is the website…https://planetari.world/
From: Sharon Truax (11:54 AM) beautiful! it is happening!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:54 AM) @Malini - maybe they are still young. As they get to be 12/14 they understand a bit more and by 17/18 - they become XR (Extinction Rebellion From: Peg Kuperman (11:54 AM) @Malini…exactly, back to how to change the advertising
From: Bruce Schuman (11:55 AM) when overloaded -- learn to think synthetically -- integrally --
From: Sharon Truax (11:55 AM) thank you for this beautiful presentation.
From: Shannon McArthur (11:55 AM) Thank you Cindy!!
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:55 AM) This slide could also read "what Adults learn" and turn into a playful re-education journey
From: Shannon McArthur (11:55 AM) YES, Liliane!!
From: Mushin Patric Roberts (11:55 AM) Cindy remarkable notion.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:56 AM) @Cindy. Can anyone sign up to your progrAM)me?
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:56 AM) @Cindy wonderful wonderful initiative and presentation. Would love to connect.
From: Kurt Krueger, Success Systems International Founding President (11:56 AM) Sorry, just got off a podcast with Nepal… Love you all and the Sadhana you are bringing to life.
From: Shannon McArthur (11:57 AM) Please please ladies, come to the Chat-People’s HR After-Party.
From: Kurt Krueger, Success Systems International Founding President (11:57 AM) I’ll get to the after Chat with STANLEY to catch up.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:57 AM) At the moment, our schoolchildren are in a perfect position to do their schoolwork (online as they isolating) and learn the other way too - open their minds. How can we do that?
From: Shannon McArthur (11:57 AM) now is such a fertile place!!
From: Me (11:57 AM) Video Introductions To Transformational Ideas https://othernetworks.org/Video_Introductions_To_Transformational_Ideas We're collecting short videos that present big ideas... Help add to the list @ OtherNetworks.org
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:57 AM) It was designed to serve Industry and the church.
From: Bruce Schuman (11:58 AM) "prepare kids to make a living in the real world"
From: Diane Skidmore (11:58 AM) There are also teachers who are ready and would love to 'infiltrate' the system with better ways. Any ideas?
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:58 AM) Cindy very interested in joining forces to create education From: birth to 5 years old for children, parents, teachers/caregivers. It is my goal/intention to prepare From: the beginning a connection and exploration of Mother Earth
From: Sharon Truax (11:59 AM) we have all the ingredients we just need to open our minds and rearrange. and
From: Bruce Schuman (11:59 AM) in the usa, education policy is always a political battle at the community level
From: Kurt Krueger, Success Systems International Founding President (11:59 AM) Living Values Education ProgrAM) has some GREAT material on that age group… www.LivingValues.net
From: Diane Skidmore (12:00 PM And at the moment, education is about 'How to get a job' as opposed to 'How to be a person'.
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:00 PM WE need children and people out in the sun when its out and working on projects inhouse when the sun is down. instead of watching TV and other stuff.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:00 PM the System has lost its hold on the input of children. The virus has done that.
From: Bruce Schuman (12:00 PM "global governance of the biosphere"
From: Sharon Truax (12:00 PM the children are brilliant.
From: Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson (12:00 PM For Christine, What would you say are the most important qualities a steward leader should embody?
From: Diane Skidmore (12:01 PM wonderful question Cuf
From: Shannon McArthur (12:01 PM Now is the time for syntropic enterprise to point education toward regenerative actions.
From: Kala (12:02 PM Remember our young presenter who created Green Hope Foundation when she was 12 yrs old having started her inspiration at 6 or younger
From: Shannon McArthur (12:02 PM training genius to be dumb. great educational system we’ve erupted From: .
From: Diane Skidmore (12:02 PM They're un-educated as soon as they go to school
From: Sharon Truax (12:03 PM COVID is offering an opportunity for many parents to learn From: them.
From: Teresa Krohman (12:03 PM I AM) an educator, just tuning into Henry Giroux, who talks about developing all kinds of literacies AM)ong many other things and who is inspired by Paulo Freire, an educator and author of Pedagogy of the Oppressed and Pedagogy of Freedom - Ethics, Democracy and Civic Courage. We have to inspire children’s curiosity, and to all engage critically with the world. There is so much more, but I urge people to investigate both of their work and how it may inspire us toward crossing the threshold and toward a more loving and caring world and syntropic enterprise in life.
From: Me (12:03 PM Book Reference: Peter Block has some interesting things to say about Stewardship in his book that is actually titled "Stewardship - Choosing Service over Self-Interest"
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:05 PM Can we end competition in education.
From: Kala (12:07 PM Jefferson County Open School in Boulder Colorado is an awesome model where the students participate in governance and determination of their whole educational experience: School of Vision: School of Hope is a book about them
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:08 PM @Kala - fun, thats such a red county too!
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:09 PM @ Kala The open classroom which was started in England way back in 1971-73 was followed here in India in some schools , But by 1976 it was shut down in UK and a lot of propaganda about its failure was created. Wonder by whom?
From: Rachel Root (12:09 PM @Kala thanks for the book recommendation
From: Shannon McArthur (12:11 PM that’s the paradigm that needs to be turned over, like the garden.
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:12 PM The funnel is JOBS. That's because all economic reporting keeps focus on jobless individuals and job losses.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:12 PM Absolutely brilliant answer - Cindy!!
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:13 PM You can take this early "trauma" through education, add adverse childhood experiences, and current influences From: all directions, and you can easily see the collective trauma activation and disturbance in current societies.
From: Me (12:13 PM There is an interesting school here in Philadelphia called Philly Free School: https://wikidelphia.org/Philly_Free_School_(PFS From: Diane Skidmore (12:13 PM @Malini - so we must teach people how to have value even if they don't have a job!! UBI first and then self respect and creativity. NOT about JOBS!!!
From: Me (12:14 PM Philly Free School is run by the Students! https://wikidelphia.org/Philly_Free_School_(PFS From: MALINI Rajendran (12:14 PM Australian Tourism did an AM)azing job many years ago about developing an economic value model for tourism of the coral reef and that was one of the initiatives that actually had people work towards saving the coral reef.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:14 PM @Liliane - Totally agree!
From: Sharon Truax (12:15 PM we can’t look back. stand in the universal and keep on with your vision.
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:16 PM Its all about Heart Energy !!!!
From: Laura Madsen (12:16 PM Beautiful Ciindy!
From: Jen Forti (12:16 PM Cindi, can you share a link to that piece you read at the beginning?
From: Nadia Mejjati (12:16 PM Is it true that Trump has been tested positive for COVID now?
From: Diane Skidmore (12:16 PM Thanks @cindy! Just Do It yes xxx
From: shawne mitchell (12:17 PM Parents, educators, media and leaders to get truthful and real about what social media is doing to our youth (and the rest of us).
From: franka (12:17 PM yes it’s true
From: Diane Skidmore (12:17 PM And @Christine - yes - service!!!!! Brill xxx
From: Sharon Truax (12:17 PM we’re standing with you in heart coherence
From: Richard Page (12:17 PM “listen to the winds”
From: franka (12:17 PM dance with nature
From: Kala (12:18 PM And listen to the wind
From: Shannon McArthur (12:18 PM we gotta lean in!!
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:18 PM YES. The Escape velocity is terrifying when it is worked on From: the Head the mind. It becomes effortless when its From: the heart.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:19 PM Phew!!! Hope is ACTIVE!!! yes!! Thank you
From: franka (12:19 PM Hope is empathic. Hope is active.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:19 PM if you are inspired, She’s right there with you…
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:19 PM If you are listening the universe will teach you
From: Sharon Truax (12:19 PM it is the law!
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:19 PM @Jen, https://www.johnodonohue.com and it is "Crossing the threshold"
From: Shannon McArthur (12:19 PM thanks Liliane!
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:20 PM Blessings is the book here in US I think
From: Bruce Schuman (12:20 PM "bless this space between us"
From: Jen Forti (12:20 PM Thank you Liliane!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:20 PM COME TO THE AFTER CHAT!!
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:20 PM <3
From: Kala (12:21 PM Thank you all! Blessings, wisdom and joy
From: Diane Skidmore (12:21 PM Brilliant Both of you. Thank you very much
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:22 PM Great ProgrAM) …thank you !
From: Shannon McArthur (12:22 PM Forget perfection - get it out to people - they want it yesterday! (imho From: Kurt Krueger, Success Systems International Founding President (12:22 PM YES, Shannon
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:22 PM In 2000 UNICEF cAM)e up with a set of 15 manuals for environmental education. I have the whole set. and can send it over.
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:22 PM We can definitely support the raising of the awareness @ChatPeople
From: Mushin Patric Roberts (12:23 PM Christine and Cindy great conversation and will be in touch. Thanks
From: Me (12:23 PM . ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541 ========================== . We also have an email list for Chat People to interact without being on at the sAM)e time. Write to be added to the list: -- stan@communitymagic.org ========================== . ..oOo..
From: Rachel Root (12:23 PM Thank you all! Appreciate the website
From: Diane Skidmore (12:23 PM We need it NOW!!!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:23 PM no body of evidence needed. stop stopping yourself!!
From: Kurt Krueger, Success Systems International Founding President (12:23 PM We homeschooled out in nature, with other incredible homeschoolers. ALL went on to success.
From: Shannon McArthur (12:23 PM we learn together with the children. NOW is the time!!
From: Kurt Krueger, Success Systems International Founding President (12:24 PM Let’s connect in the after Chat. I’ve been involved in transformative educaSuccessSystemsInternational@gmail.comtion since 1975. : From: Beth Brownfield (12:24 PM please paste website here in chat
From: Sharon Truax (12:24 PM so what is time?
From: Kurt Krueger, Success Systems International Founding President (12:24 PM Sorry, typo, SuccessSystemsInternational@gmail.com
From: Sharon Truax (12:25 PM gathering momentum!
From: Diane Skidmore (12:25 PM https://planetari.world/
From: Jen Forti (12:25 PM Thank you ALL for your passion and for your willingness to cross the threshold <3
From: Hannah Lyons-Tsai (12:26 PM Cindy, perhaps you have heard of it already but there is another education platform with a similar mission called Global Dimension that might be good to collaborate with - https://globaldimension.org.uk/
From: Beverly Parsons (12:26 PM Thanks!!
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:26 PM Incredible, thank you Ladies and Jim!
From: Shannon McArthur (12:26 PM Please come! Much to talk about!!
From: Diane Skidmore (12:26 PM https://syntropic.world/
From: Me (12:26 PM . ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541
From: Diane Skidmore (12:27 PM Ooooooh Exciting A Chinese lady!!!
