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Humanity Rising Day 1062 Chat Page – Wednesday January 22, 2025
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11:01:09 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Good morning, Everyone! Sparkling blessings and loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc peoples now known as Kamloops, BC, Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:01:48 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Welcome to Day 1062 of Humanity Rising
11:03:44 From Andrew Cameron Bailey to Everyone:
Warm greetings from the glorious, sunny foothills of the Colorado Rockies. And welcome to the second day of the Fourth Reich. It’s about to get ugly!
11:05:16 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I love that Jim has such a complete grasp of human history. With men like him with us, we have a beautiful future ahead, though getting to the beauty will require some composting of the past.
11:06:03 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
Yes Shannon..I was thinking exactly that.Opens a new prespective
11:06:30 From Andrew Cameron Bailey to Everyone:
The Iroquois Confederacy was initiated by the Great Peacemaker roughly 1,000 years ago. Roughly the same era as King John in England.
11:08:30 From Andrew Cameron Bailey to Everyone:
Actually those ideas emerged from Cambridge University in the latter part of the reign of Elizabeth 1.
11:09:56 From Marijke Kuipers to Host and Panelists:
What an extremely interesting introduction to today!
11:11:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I remember, Andrew, you and Jim in a Sparkling Conversation ( ::https://www.facebook.com/EarthstockFestival/videos/478420261776955::) and I anticipate another vibrant conversation, this time about history - both of you are very informed and eloquent!!
11:13:20 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Civilization and Its Discontents by Sigmund Freud - ::https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~cavitch/pdf-library/Freud_SE_Civ_and_Dis_complete.pdf::
11:13:23 From Rita to Everyone:
hi
11:14:58 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
THANK YOU JIM FOR THIS brilliant historical indigenous wisdom, including horrible hateful, imperial power dynamics, patriarchal twists, restraints, and conditions. 🌎😎🌎
11:15:23 From Doreen Tanenbaum to Everyone:
Good Morning from Cherokee Country North Carolina
11:15:28 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
DOCTOR Jim Eddington!! Great to see you again. Thanks for coming to the AfterChat yesterday.
11:15:37 From Paul Greco to Everyone:
Beautiful Jim, thank you.
11:15:48 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
Thanks JIm!! You Always bring na opening to beiief systems...refelctions...expanding!!!
11:16:58 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
The Great Peacemaker came to the warring tribes of the Iroquois (they had been at war for generations) in the 1200’s and brought The Great Law which resulted in The Iroquois Confederacy - and the relationship between the founders of the US and the Iroquois is what we call “The Second Great Synthesis” between Europeans and the Native Americans. “The First Great Synthesis” was between the Mayflower Pilgrims and the Native Americans during the 54 years of peace and friendship in Plymouth. These syntheses gave birth to the American mind, spirit and democracy. We are now in “The Third Great Synthesis” as we open our hearts and access our “Pan-Indigenousness.” See our work with the spiritual beginnings of the US of A. ::Https://First50Years.us/about:: - as we go forward into the high vision of The American Promise.
11:18:29 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
I affirm that AI is accumulated and automated information. it's not intelligent because it is not creative.
11:19:51 From Rita to Everyone:
Agree with you Nelleke and is destrying even more our mother earth due to explotation of resources..
11:20:00 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
WHO are the organisations building AI???? let's make this personal....
11:20:22 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
THANK YOU TOM FOR THIS UPDATE ON VICE!!! Dangerous, devastating, billionaire agenda! When Big Money controls Big Government ......IS.....the foundation of fascism. HERE WE ARE. SHOCKING YET NOW SURPRISING. 👿😎👿
11:22:45 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
WELCOME Kathie and Evan! Wonderful introduction about your Trans Services!🥰
11:24:33 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I love the focus on communication. Thanks Evan, and Kathie.
11:27:34 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
What are your thoughts on this story derived from Dekanawida, the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) leader called “PeaceMaker.”: THE LITTLE PRINCESS: ::https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jYkrL-ziXr0UV4_xyNernmRAm-oh7ZTV-phYkFmywJg/edit?usp=sharing::
11:30:03 From Suzanne Tremblay to Host and Panelists:
Can the slides be made available?
11:30:35 From Tom Eddington to Everyone:
I’ll ask Kathie and Evan how to provide access.
11:31:14 From Kathie Moehlig (she/her/hers) to Host and Panelists:
yes we can share them Evan will share a link later
11:33:25 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
REALLY well presented, thank you, Evan!
11:33:45 From Suzanne Tremblay to Host and Panelists:
Thank You!
11:34:24 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
When you add to this chat, please include Everyone.
Stan copies this chat and sends it out with links to the HR recording and the AfterChat recording and its chat. To receive his email, please put your email here in the chat.
11:34:47 From Suzanne Tremblay to Host and Panelists:
MatthewEvangelisti@icloud.com
11:35:04 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Who are complying with Mr. T. ?
11:35:08 From Evan Johnson (they/them/theirs) to Host and Panelists:
11:35:15 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
PLEASE Set the to button to “Everyone”
11:35:30 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Evan Johnson (they/them/theirs) to Host and Panelists (11:35 AM)
11:35:47 From Evan Johnson (they/them/theirs) to Everyone:
The slides from today: ::https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2emnq9u653owbwqehdx1j/TransFamily-Support-Services-Humanity-Rising-slides.pptx?rlkey=xqo7qnodo9ijcvxv9uvopq3ai&st=rv2nwl3i&dl=0::
11:35:57 From Suzanne Tremblay to Everyone:
Thank You!
11:36:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks, Evan!
11:36:06 From Evan Johnson (they/them/theirs) to Host and Panelists:
Thanks, Stan 🙂
11:36:24 From Doreen Tanenbaum to Everyone:
Thank you Evan, beautifully presented
11:37:18 From Mark Weinstein to Host and Panelists:
Great presentation, Evan, super helpful, so clear. I must go to another meeting. Thank you!
11:38:40 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Important, timely, wise reminder, that ETERNITY will last WAY WAY WAY longer than hateful T!🌎
11:40:36 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Welcome to Humanity Rising
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::
Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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11:41:08 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks, Stan. I'm looking forward to that conversation today!
11:42:45 From bonnie ONeill to Everyone:
Could Kathie share her experience as the mother of a trans child
11:43:23 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
But MUSK has more money than all the movements put tpgether.
11:44:09 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
WASHINGTON State already has BOTH FEET IN these legal fights! We are already suing these draconian executive orders (on Day 1) to ensure ALL our human and civil rights!🌎😇🥰
11:50:32 From Mary Bowler to Everyone:
Thank you for this program. so so important. I am grateful to be living in Californnia.
11:50:38 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
McBride is an extraordinary dynamic, eloquent, wise leader! Hallelujah! for her impressive leadership for the good of all of us! 🩷😇🩷
11:54:20 From Mary Bowler to Everyone:
Mental Health is significant in this discussion. People become mentally unhealthy when they can't be who they are when they are oppressed when they experience trauma
11:54:48 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
No one is talking about what is causing this in the first, place and Bobby Kennedy understands this, and will maybe call it out, and Trump may change his view and that is that fetal tissue from aborted babies have been in the vaccines since the late '50s. It is even in the measles vaccine. They can clean it but can't take out the DNA that carries the sex of that child thus the babies have been being injected with the opposite sex and that is when it started growing. The operations started when I was in high school and this has been exposed thanks to a whistle blower at the CDC and took the proof to Dr. Hooker who started researching it and proved it and there is a movie about this "Vaxxed". I think if we educate people that this is being caused and that we need to be more understanding, it will change our view and they need to stop moving this needle.
11:55:35 From Andrew Cameron Bailey to Everyone:
More recommended reading for people with strong stomachs: ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_and_Fall_of_the_Third_Reich::
11:57:12 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Carol-Sue please be aware of the algorithms - we don’t want this recording to be pulled bc of alt-med content
11:59:03 From Andrew Cameron Bailey to Everyone:
Here’s a quote from the above book: "[T]he course of German history ... made blind obedience to temporal rulers the highest virtue of Germanic man, and put a premium on servility." Sound familiar?
12:00:00 From Mary Bowler to Everyone:
Thank you Evan for sharing this journey
12:00:46 From Roz Bound to Everyone:
I honour your courage, Evan.
12:01:10 From Mary Bowler to Everyone:
I agree Roz
12:01:24 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
You are right sorry. The fact that this is even an issue shows there is something to this. This got left out of my statement above: Notice why we have more gender confused people than ever before including my own husband of 34 years. So I do understand this.
12:05:08 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Shannon, could you please write the words of introduction- it went so quickly for me- I did not catch it.
12:05:15 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
In these times of immense, relentless, and intense cruelty - it's critically important to remember this: WE ARE ALL STONGER WHEN WE STAND TOGETHER AS ALLYS FOR ALL HUMAN AND CIVIL RIGHTS! 🥰🥰🥰 YES, IN TIMES OF TROUBLE, LOOK FOR ALL THE HELPERS!!! 😇😇😇
12:06:05 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Nelleke, which words are you referring to? My morning greeting saying Welcome to Humanity Rising?
12:06:28 From Mary Bowler to Everyone:
Yes Kim
12:07:14 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
How do I introduce myself to someone else who is trans ? using she/her/hers -I'm unsure how to word it
12:08:08 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Nelleke, you would probably say, "Hi, I'm Nelleke and my pronouns are she/her and hers. Nice to meet you."
12:08:27 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Thank you
12:08:29 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Yes, so important and basic, Mary! 🥰😇🥰
12:08:40 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::
Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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12:08:46 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
👍🏻
12:10:33 From Franka Strietzel to Everyone:
Question to the panel:
The stories of De-Transitioners get weaponised and blown out of proportion. Are there any reliably stats? What percentage of folks actually regret their transition.
12:11:15 From bonnie ONeill to Everyone:
If we are all members of the human family why feel compelled to differentiate each other
12:16:01 From Mary Bowler to Everyone:
support system is vital
12:16:06 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
YES, KATHIE, we are all on a journey.
12:16:14 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Bonnie, it's about human dignity, diversity, equity, human rights, civil rights, and access to ALL kinds of human services, etc.....😇
12:16:19 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Franka, thank you for your question. Good to have you here; I hope you come to the AfterChat too!
12:16:44 From Mary Bowler to Everyone:
Thank you I need to leave now
12:17:01 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Fabulous analogies!!! 😁
12:18:17 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
I hope that I can come on to the afterchat with you all… Busy day today. TY for beautiful clarity on, for some, a touchy issue.
12:18:48 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Friends are friends.
12:19:42 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
THANK YOU KATHIE, EVAN, TOM and Humanity Rising for this exceptional and illuminating program today! So deeply appreciated, for the good of all! 😍🥰😍
12:19:49 From Doreen Tanenbaum to Everyone:
Kathie and Evan, Trans youth/people are so lucky to have you representing them. Your strength and communication skills are outstanding. Clearly you have worked through all fear in presenting and actions in community. Your strength and character are awesome.
12:20:07 From Doreen Tanenbaum to Everyone:
Agree Jim!
12:20:11 From Stan Pokras (he, him/his) to Everyone:
From the Q&A: Franka Strietzel 12:11 PM
The stories of De-Transitioners get weaponised and blown out of proportion. Are there any reliably stats? What percentage of folks actually regret their transition?
12:20:39 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
YES, Jim! TRANS-FORMATIONAL LEADERSHIP!!!🩷🌎🩷
12:20:43 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks, Stan, we got that one - Franka reposted it for us.
12:22:13 From bonnie ONeill to Everyone:
Thank you Jim for bringing this up
12:24:58 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I have heard that, historically, doctors have automatically done reassignment surgery at birth - perhaps when the penis appeared too small (or something). Do you have some truth on this?
12:26:58 From Richard Page to Everyone:
i'm checking now to feel if i have an adam's apple
12:27:09 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
I love that Kathie spoke about a child with diabetes. Made it totally accessible to me & gave me the ability to speak about it.
Thank you!
12:27:34 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
PEACEMAKERS have a Salute! Whenever you say goodbye, when you leave your friends or a meeting, send more Love into the world with The Peace Salute, ::https://youtu.be/iLqxBwH9Plk?si=PCQIWALBoADIhng2::, ZOOM PEACE into the world. The video includes the origins of its creation. Youth of all ages love it.
12:28:30 From John L. German to Host and Panelists:
What exceptions?
12:29:07 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Amazing answer! Thank you!
12:31:38 From Stan Pokras (he, him/his) to Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::
Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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12:32:11 From John L. German to Host and Panelists:
Gay panic writ large
12:33:28 From Doreen Tanenbaum to Everyone:
That should be what is promoted the data
12:33:41 From bonnie ONeill to Everyone:
Because it is a distraction
12:34:00 From Richard Page to Everyone:
what is a wedge issue?
12:34:16 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
It's easier to talk about something they can "win" than issues they don't have a hope of fixing.
12:35:40 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Blessing, Kathie1
12:35:45 From Evan Johnson (they/them/theirs) to Everyone:
12:36:58 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Richard, this is addressing your question, I believe - weaponizing an issue makes it a wedge issue.
12:37:28 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Glad to hear you'll be joining us, Evan, in the AfterChat!!
12:38:21 From David Stoney to Everyone:
Thanks to everyone!
12:38:25 From Stan Pokras (he, him/his) to Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::
Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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