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Humanity Rising Day 1049 Chat Page – Thursday December 19, 2024
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11:02:22 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Sparkling blessings and loving greetings, for the last time this year, from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc peoples now known as Kamloops, BC, Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:02:47 From Jean Yzer to Everyone:
haha, love the classical music 🎵🎶
11:03:09 From Antonia Gentile to Everyone:
"Neptune", NJ - how mystical :)
11:03:11 From Gianluca Gatti to Host and Panelists:
Great music choice, hello from Italy
11:03:13 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
Beautiful music!!! Yes, appropriate, inspiring!
11:03:28 From Mo Stevenson to Everyone:
Wow. This is profound. Thank you
11:03:45 From jennifer chapin to Everyone:
Dancing drones! Who knew..
11:03:50 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Host and Panelists:
“2001.” We live on and care for/with our Tongvé and Chumash friends from our unceded land, about 20 miles N. of Los Angeles CA. Feel free to connect so we may collaborate, coagulate and grow more effective PeaceMakers Circles Network.
11:03:50 From TOBY GROTZ to Host and Panelists:
THIS IS GREAT
11:04:01 From TOBY GROTZ to Host and Panelists:
FROM VIROQUA, WISCONSIN
11:04:09 From sarah lane to Host and Panelists:
LOVE the music!🙂
11:04:58 From Jøran Solberg to Everyone:
inappropriate music for a psyop intended to seize the ufo discussion in the direction of fear
11:05:13 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Welcome to Day 1049 of Humanity Rising - a “Special” session
11:05:21 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Yes, Joran, refreshing, isn't it!?!
11:05:37 From Dianna Winsor to Everyone:
Loved the opening music Jim, how magical!!!
11:05:38 From RUSS DONDA to Everyone:
GREAT MUSIC LOL!
11:05:42 From Katie Augustine to Everyone:
Happy Holidays HR !!
11:05:43 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:
Psy Op of a Psy Op of a Psy Op
11:06:00 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Wow the visuals so appreciated and impactful. Brings tears
11:06:41 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
We live on and care for/with our Tongvé and Chumash friends from our unceded sacred land, about 20 miles N. of Los Angeles CA. Feel free to connect so we may collaborate, coagulate and grow more effective PeaceMakers Circles Network.
11:07:10 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Good morning Jim, Georg, Danny and all!
11:07:38 From Zoom user to Everyone:
The phenomenon certainly has our attention.
11:07:43 From Steven Crawford-Maggard to Everyone:
To "exist," time would require a measure external to itself. This recursion implies an infinite regression (time for time).
Every attempt to prove existence merely leads to a reaffirmation of its own unprovable nature. Existence cannot be objectively proven because it requires the recursive self-consistency of the universe to make such a proof possible.
Conclusion: Existence itself is unprovable, as it rests on a system that recursively affirms its own reality, making it impervious to external proof.
Thus, the stability you seek lies not in traditional proof but in the unbroken circle of its own definition—where its very existence is maintained by the impossibility of breaking its internal logic.
11:07:45 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
I miss Reed Summers on the panel
11:08:05 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Hi, Georg! Good to see you!
11:08:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Great work, Georg!
11:08:50 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:
Thank you Georg!
11:08:53 From Bob LaChappelle to Everyone:
Greetings from Concord California USA
11:09:53 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
covert missions would require stealth more than blinking lights, wouldn't they?
11:10:19 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
Buenos Diaz de Bacalar, Mexico!
11:11:33 From Vicki Bartelt to Everyone:
Good morning from Seattle
11:12:56 From John Phillips to Everyone:
If ET's wanted to be seen, they would appear in broad daylight like the ones I have seen
11:13:18 From Bruce Davis to Everyone:
Georg Boch is exactly right
11:13:34 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Great to have you with us, Robert.
11:13:51 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Thanks Bruce
11:13:54 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:
The Secrecy, Lies and Deception is about Zero Point Energy which is the fuel of UFOs/UAPs…!?
11:14:14 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
I agree Prof. De Vierville
11:14:34 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
Brilliant assessment Georg!
11:14:34 From Dr. Egbert Edelbroek to Everyone:
Hello from The Netherlands 🍀
11:15:05 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Thanks Janice
11:16:14 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
11:16:38 From Katie Augustine to Everyone:
thank you Mufon for doing this work!
11:16:59 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
The first TV program produced on the West Coast - instead of NYC, the origins of its creation in the 1950’s TV Outer Space series SPACE PATROL inspired the Peace Salute. PEACEMAKERS have a Salute! Whenever you say goodbye, when you leave your friends or a meeting, send more Love into the world with The Peace Salute, ::https://youtu.be/iLqxBwH9Plk?si=PCQIWALBoADIhng2::, ZOOM PEACE into the world. Young people of all ages love it! You can too.
11:17:27 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
Could this be a reason they will invent to stop Trump?
11:17:30 From Bruce Davis to Everyone:
Robert Spearing is a genius btw I had the privilege of speaking with him thanks to the MUFON NY State Director Christopher DePerno 🖖
11:17:40 From sarah lane to Host and Panelists:
What is in New Jersey, did someone say? Military ? Secret labs??
11:17:47 From Jøran Solberg to Everyone:
if we want contact with the real aliens we need to be aware of this type of deception. project Blue Beam is something everyone needs to be aware of. there are longstanding plans to stage the impression of an alien attack
11:18:25 From SuzyKCoach@gmail.com Specialized-Systems.com to Host and Panelists:
For you Boomers that house behind him made it look like a Tom Terrific beanie hat lol
11:19:56 From John Phillips to Everyone:
If you want to put an end to the lies, why not break down the doors of CIA classified military contractor Battelle Memorial, who "manages 9 of our National Laboratories?
11:20:26 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Hi, Richard!! Good to see you again.
11:21:05 From Bruce Davis to Everyone:
Richard rocks! Intelligent Disclosure 🖖
11:23:24 From Robert Spearing to Host and Panelists:
::https://www.insidernj.com/press-release/bramnick-applauds-faa-for-heeding-advice/::
11:23:59 From TOBY GROTZ to Everyone:
I was President of the Denver UFO Society in 1982 while working for and aerospace copmpany, Martin Marietta, having had sighting and contact experience and was trying to figure out if I was crazy. Now I’m 74 and still loving the pursuit of understanding the true nature of REALITY!
11:24:11 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:
The Deeper the Memory, the Clearer The Vision…. Thanks Richard
11:24:16 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
::https://www.ubiquityuniversity.org/the-rendlesham-forest-incident-with-gary-heseltine/::
11:24:24 From Robert Spearing to Host and Panelists:
11:25:30 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Toby, sounds wonderful! I'd love to hear more. Come, if you can, to the AfterChat. The link will be posted now and again throughout this meeting, and we'll gather immediately after for about an hour.
11:26:55 From jennifer chapin to Everyone:
We must remember that we are a warlike society whose military tactics are not only a threat to our planet, but to the galaxy. Perhaps these sighting are a way for other civilizations to ensure that we do not destroy ourselves, and them as a result. Nuclear war would certainly lead to that end. Perhaps the galactic confederation is patiently waiting for us to join them in a non-warlike fashion.
11:27:35 From John Phillips to Everyone:
Battelle Memorial is at the core of the nuclear secrecy/"national security" nonsense. Richard Dolan mentions Battelle in his first volume: The Battelle group “had been studying the UFO problem, in Hynek’s words, in ‘very great secrecy’” (Dolan, 2002, p. 121).
11:29:02 From John Phillips to Everyone:
Battelle Memorial has been back-engineering alien tech for decades, and many people know this, such as Anthony Bragglia.
11:29:46 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
FROM THE Q&A: Steven Crawford-Maggard 11:26 AM
How does the East Palestine Derailment affect the environment over a long-term analysis?
Does it explain current drone tasking with past chemical spills/burn?
11:30:41 From Katie Augustine to Everyone:
Some people in South Carolina are saying they’re seeing drones (on Nextdoor app) and a couple people said they are shooting them down. I’m hoping they’re just regular real estate or otherwise drones, but if these drones are something else and/ior contain radioactive or other materials, the government is putting us in harms way by not stating so - as some people feel it’s their right to shoot them down here.
11:31:48 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
Seers and oracles are suggesting that these are ETs who are trying to prevent a nuclear war here.
11:32:07 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
@Katie, are you in S Carolina?
11:32:36 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Meg, I agree, yet wonder what's the price tag ?
11:32:38 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Meg, you're right. Mare Cromwell asked me to pass this along: Mother Gaia asked me to put this message out about them.
Essentially, these are ET drones mostly from the Plaiedes, and they are truly helping Mother Gaia out in beautiful ways.
11:32:51 From Jennifer Comeau to Host and Panelists:
Question: What do you all say about Dr. Steven Greer's initial thoughts: Dr. Greer shared with me a just-received email dispatched to him from a contact in an Army Special Forces unit. It was headed: “Radar Guy here, I know who is operating the drones.” And it begins: “25-year Radar Operator for a major agency here, just thought I’d let you all know what has been going on these past few weeks. The drones are part of a military ‘drill’ being conducted by space force. Everything is on a ‘need to know’ basis which is why there’s so much confusion.” (from a substack post). ….
11:32:58 From Jennifer Comeau to Host and Panelists:
....Dr. Greer believes that the ensuing drone deluge marks what’s known as a “psy-op” in the intelligence trade - an operation designed to manipulate and frighten the populace. This is related, he says, to knowledge by elements of the military-industrial complex of a coming massive disclosure of long-withheld evidence by a rogue group within Army Special Forces, who are fed up with the secrecy. According to Dr. Greer, their firsthand documentation will describe “how our military has been downing extraterrestrial craft and reverse-engineering their technology. They’ve retrieved bodies of so-called NHIs, Non-Human Intelligence, at the same black sites. They’ve been at facilities where the captured technology has been used to create manmade triangular and circular craft that look like UFOs.”
11:33:35 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
Yes, Shannon, multiple ways of helping Gaia and homo-sapiens evolve.
11:33:58 From Jennifer Comeau to Host and Panelists:
Source: ::https://dickrussell.substack.com/p/blowing-the-whistle-0de::
11:34:53 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Jennifer, please be sure chat with “everyone” not just hosts and participants. Thanks
11:34:54 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
The FAA cannot make a determination that these are regular drones if they don't comply with LEGAL WAIVERS for: large size, flying over people, flying at night, not using anti collision lights, flying beyond line of sight, flying below 400 feet and not using ADSV broadcast to track them. (Source Ben Hansen).
11:35:50 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Meg, Shannon, what's the price tag for this 'warning' ? It's all assumptions where they are from, what their purpose is here...
11:36:01 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
There is a disconnect between the Federal agencies making no sense and state and local authorities.
11:36:21 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:
Is there any aspect of THE DIVINE, going on here and Now?
11:36:23 From Jennifer Comeau to Everyone:
So on one hand, we have Mare Cromwell, Gaia mystic saying these are benevolent ETs coming to heal Earth and on the other we have Dr. Greer saying it's part of a "Psy Ops" designed to fool us and distract us as a coup takes over the US... Who knows?
11:37:04 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Nelleke, there has been no aggression from the drones. Just mysterious aerial acrobatics. I'm intrigued. That is, I believe, their purpose.
11:37:16 From Astrid Stahlberg to Everyone:
How can we today be satisfied with ”We don’t know”
11:37:39 From Jennifer Comeau to Everyone:
agreed, @Astrid
11:37:59 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
Astrid, that is my question too!
11:38:14 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Jennifer, it's explained most eloquently in 'Allies of Humanity' - The New Message. by Marshall Vian Summers
11:38:26 From Andrew Cameron Bailey to Everyone:
I have personally seen each of those UAP types, from Arizona to California to Hawaii, starting in 1970.
11:38:41 From John Phillips to Everyone:
Disclosure will be achieved, and the truth out, when the criminal classified military contractor Battelle Memorial has been thoroughly exposed and dismantled. I blew the whistle on them after they tunneled up underneath my house and invaded my dreams, then resorted to ongoing directed energy weapon attacks. Here is a link to my book: ::https://amzn.to/3sIF8UQ::
11:38:46 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:
At What Point…. And with How much Data will we “KNOW” ?
11:38:57 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Shannon, some visuals are entertaining and distracting indeed
11:38:59 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
@Professor J: Yes, to many, it is believed we are about to understand who we truly are in divine nature.
11:39:03 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
::https://newparadigminstitute.org/take-action/demand-transparency-and-accountability-on-drones/::
11:39:56 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Welcome to Humanity Rising
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::
Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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11:40:03 From John Phillips to Everyone:
Please read my Substack article on Battelle Memorial's involvement in the Covid injections: ::https://johnbphillips.substack.com/p/if-only-la-quinta-columna-knew-about::
11:40:11 From jennifer chapin to Everyone:
To Professor Paul de Vier: yes, and once we realize that we are Divine, we can understand what is happening, not only on Earth but in this sub-universe.
11:40:18 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
is Trump, Musk, GOP calls to shutdown government as of tomorrow part of the cover-up??
11:41:28 From Mark Weinstein to Everyone:
Collapse of German government too
11:41:54 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
The intelligences of “UAP drones” may not be violating our law (especially from their perspective or from a human but more inclusive perspective). As part of a larger system in which we/our world is embedded in “UAP drones” supersede (transcend and include) our laws and, moreover, usually seem to do so in an anomalous (or at least semi anomalous) way challenging our conventional mindsets probably to show us that they come from an worldly perspective (of which we are a necessary part).
11:42:02 From Susan Boyce to Everyone:
I am an independent and do not like division , I have no issues with the new admin
11:42:25 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
Canada also on the verge of falling-- Trudeau will be out soon
11:42:31 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
John Phillips, thanks.
11:42:54 From John Phillips to Everyone:
I have put my life on the line to expose the core of evil, the bottom of the hole concerning UFO secrecy by exposing Battelle Memorial. I am asking for whistleblower-level protection. If you would like to prevent WWIII, expose Battelle Memorial
11:42:58 From Susan Boyce to Everyone:
Please stop spreading fear
11:44:38 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
These "UAP drones" also show up with characteristics that appear to be a mixture of otherworldly UAP and regular human drones. This could be a matter of a natural mechanism occurring when different ontological realities (even if they could be called parallel physical universes) mix incompletely under a situation called “mutual enactment”.
Prof. Sean Esbjorn-Hargens and I explore this idea. The type of presentation of these “semi conventional drones” could serve not to traumatize some of us too fast to soon by showing us something too different from our consensual reality.
11:44:49 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
what about Putin's "saber-rattling" threatening use of nuclear weapons?
11:44:51 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I hear you, Susan. It's important to remember that there is a Greater Power, outside of Time, that has this all in Hand. Many things must change/fall in order for the truth to be known.
11:45:30 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Marilyn, do you think that Putin doesn't have his own share of Drones?
11:45:36 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
Hopefully humanity can figure out how to stop the hate and destruction. Perhaps we are failing the "great filter" test, and the phenomena is here to put us in remedial coursework , or hopefully remove the blocks to unity and love
11:46:10 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
FROM THE Q&A: Avery Lena 11:41 AM
Can any panelist suggest actions for individuals to undertake? Perhaps beyond contacting legislators, I'm thinking more personal and pragmatic, such as meditation, art, discussing with family or friends (or better to hold off?), study and research, career advice (consulting on anomalous phenomena?), practicing psionic abilities, time in nature, citizen science. Thanks <3
11:46:23 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
has anyone seen this interview released on the 13th with Dr. Steven Greer and Billy Carson? ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g525YfcVIwQ&t=5s::
11:46:49 From Jennifer Comeau to Everyone:
Thank you for your efforts to reveal the truth, @JohnPhillips.
11:47:40 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
anyone seen this newly released movie: Battle for Disclosure? BATTLE FOR DISCLOSURE
11:47:47 From Jennifer Comeau to Everyone:
Flood the field with love and gratitude to avoid the projections of all our traumas and mental dis-ease onto these mysteries.
11:48:00 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks, Stan, for moving the Q&A to this chat so it becomes part of the archives of Humanity Rising. Everyone, please preface your questions with the word in caps to help Jim identify your questions.
11:48:15 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
Elizabeth Wysen, scientist seer, says that most of the ETs share human DNA. Those from other galaxies do not. Most of the humans are trying to help us. But the Dark Order is not.
11:48:32 From John Phillips to Everyone:
Thanks, Jennifer. I have lost everything because of these people, and they don't have an off button. There are many people like me who are being tortured to death in America with electromagnetic weapons
11:48:34 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
SORRY/not sorry to say I agree with Dolan, not enough proved to push Gaia or any other metaphysical deity for this. I can believe They are out there, watching, but us mere mortals are not advanced enough to inject our own primitive philosophies, psychologies, religions, ethnography, parlor tricks and poker. All speculation I consider Wishful Thinking 😗 THINK ABOUT THAT! Everything Danny is saying is reflective of what NOAM CHOMSKY has said for years!! Look up his most recent posts, just weeks ago, explaining out History and how it takes focus off the more urgent 6th EXTINCTION.
11:48:34 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Jennifer, YES.
11:49:25 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
FROM the Q&A: Giorgio Piacenza 11:48 AM
Does the evidence-contradicting joint declaration on December 17 by FAA, DHS, FBI, and Dod (that what we are seeing is legal, lawful, commercial hobyist and law enforcement-based) show that the anti Disclosure forces have forced all these Federal Agencies into lying also convincing President Biden to approve this?
11:49:41 From sarah lane to Host and Panelists:
The latter is believable, Stephen Greer’s postulate. Military Industrial complex is in charge of so much, including the presidency, really, healthcare, ....
11:49:46 From Bruce Davis to Everyone:
I love how Daniel continues to give Steven Greer his flowers. Sheehan is our role model for Disclosure 🙏
11:49:46 From Jennifer Comeau to Everyone:
Oh I am so sorry, John Phillips. What a tragic and unthinkable situation.
11:50:08 From Mark Weinstein to Everyone:
Thank you for this, Janice. I just got Apple TV!
11:50:34 From Jennifer Comeau to Everyone:
You are so wise, Daniel Sheehan.
11:50:38 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
Thank you Danny for your wisdom and insight. Sharing this body of knowledge and these possibilities with stakeholders, decisionmakers and anyone in the public is so important, I hope the work of the NPI can be expanded to reach more people
11:51:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Avery, they're working on it. You can help!! Join them on their website to learn how.
11:51:29 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
::https://newparadigminstitute.org/::
11:51:50 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:
YES, HOW TO DISCERN THE DATA WITH TRUTH, GOOD, BEAUTIFUL AND AWE ? DIVINATION?
11:52:32 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
Many citizens and congress persons now still want to excessively belief what federal authorities tell them but, if the UAP drone” activity continues increases (or subsides and then returns re-charged), less citizens and congresspersons will keep the same attitude. The recognition of the role of the otherworldly connecting with us in a larger system in which we participate may be absolutely necessary to save humanity from the self-destructive direction we are going based in ignorance.
11:52:34 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
Thanks Shanon! I have been meaning to reach out, is there anyone who could talk me through how to best add my skills to the team as a volunteer?
11:54:04 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Avery, certainly use the website, and come if you can after this is over, to the AfterChat. We're sure to have some knowledgeable people join us!
11:54:11 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
If this is US centric then why is this phenomenon being seen simultaneously in so many countries
11:54:18 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Thank you Danny, This feels right, to me. I really appreciate your understanding of us humans.
11:54:24 From Katie Augustine to Everyone:
You may have spoken to this but I thought there was a lost nuclear piece already ?
11:54:25 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
Unmanned aeronautic systems are most like a part of this. It also seems there is a psionic/light/orb element as well, very interesting. Do the human-made UAS have ZPE power modules perhaps?
11:54:28 From sarah lane to Host and Panelists:
It is world-wide interests at play
11:54:58 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
Bingo! I think Danny’s scenario is correct!
11:55:34 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
I think it’s possible but not the only possibility.
11:55:58 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
Less doing and simply more BEING is also so helpful. Finding our greatest luminosity and becoming an attractor. Perhaps there is one message but we each receive it differently. I do not over intellectualize this experience, but do remain open to the Truth that is emerging.
11:56:09 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
I find Danny's scenario plausible.
11:56:32 From TOBY GROTZ to Everyone:
Yean, Damn, I was hoping it was aliens
11:56:45 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
::https://newparadigminstitute.org/take-action/demand-transparency-and-accountability-on-drones/::
11:56:45 From John Phillips to Everyone:
Daniel Sheehan and the NPD is our greatest hope to restore the rule of law.. Remember Battelle Memorial
11:56:45 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Cindy, please check your email.
11:56:48 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
The goal is to undermine Trump’s control in the White Office.
11:56:52 From Vicki Bartelt to Everyone:
Drones have also been spotted near 3 military bases in Britain
11:56:53 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
I feel more aligned with our movement through conscious evolution.
11:57:06 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Toby, I wouldn't be surprised if your desire turns out to be true.
11:58:16 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
🙏🏻 Katherine
11:58:27 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
just subscribed to the substack
11:58:45 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
A "drone" as big as an SUV *might* have a living being in it.
11:58:52 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
👍♥️ Cindy
11:59:03 From Lisa Masini to Everyone:
Jacques Vallee noted that over time, the forms of UFO/UAP change to match existing human technologies and cultural expectations. (Re: FAA lighting). Maybe some of the drones are UAP/NHI and some of human origin.
11:59:14 From John Phillips to Everyone:
Thanks Avery!
11:59:38 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Lisa, that makes most sense to me.
11:59:53 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
Lisa, yes.
12:00:11 From Steven Crawford-Maggard to Everyone:
This creates a system where the inability to disprove becomes the foundational truth, offering a unique form of self-consistency that sustains itself through its inherent unprovable nature.
Thus, the stability you seek lies not in traditional proof but in the unbroken circle of its own definition—where its very existence is maintained by the impossibility of breaking its internal logic.
12:00:21 From Steven Crawford-Maggard to Everyone:
Thus, the stability you seek lies not in traditional proof but in the unbroken circle of its own definition—where its very existence is maintained by the impossibility of breaking its internal logic.
12:00:37 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
#👽 THIS is the plot of Alan Moore's classic and prescient Comic Book, WATCHMEN, made into a film. (spoiler alert) In the future after Russia /US war. world wide destruction begins "caused" an alien attack. It's cooked up by the richest/most brilliant/ most altruistic man on earth (like Elon Musk) to bring MANKIND TOGETHER! Like a Tonkin Gulf gameplay. Readers till debate whether this was good or evil, but it seemed to work! Steve Bannon produced many of these type of films Trump uses to replace his lack of imagination and foresight.
12:01:00 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
NJ police said there was no FLIR heat signature on the UAS, that plus the long flight durations makes me think they're nuclear or ZPE powered
12:02:07 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
brilliant, Steven
12:02:31 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
70% were always blames on training exercices,
12:03:12 From Vicki Bartelt to Everyone:
Not to discount all the good work that has been done for disclosure.
Perhaps it's more the Musk brothers with Nova Sky Stories creating chaos. Trump would love to use this fake alien invasion revelation as a premise to establishing Marshall law when the general public freaks out.
12:03:25 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
the rest were blames on "swamp gas" car reflections in fog, drunk drivers, etc.
12:03:30 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
ooh Paul I love Alan Moore's work. Imo Promethea is a very pertinent work of his, it explores Kabbalah and tarot cards. Crowley's Hermetic lense is not my favorite but the series is such a great primer for some of this stuff, and an amazing graphic novel as well
12:04:09 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
As we remember ourselves, our mirror to reality is no longer so cloudy. The watched can now become the watchers in mutual connection. Yet, there are those whose fear would like to keep us confused no doubt. Learn to trust your inner knowing. What is it? What does it do? What do I trust it can be? (The 3 questions of discernment)
12:04:38 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
0000000000
12:05:13 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Cynthia, I love those questions: What is it? What does it do? What do I trust it can be? (The 3 questions of discernment)
12:05:20 From John Phillips to Everyone:
Bingo Mr. Russell!
12:05:39 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
Agree. This is new and plausible for me.
12:05:55 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks, Dick.
12:05:57 From Katie Augustine to Everyone:
Wow informative…
12:06:05 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
Unfortunately I have to leave, but will catch the replay. Thank you for putting this together, Jim and others.
12:06:08 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
Very plausible!
12:06:44 From TOBY GROTZ to Everyone:
Shannon - 😃 ZPE on steroids perhaps All - see here FFG/ZPE generator Tested by engineers from the Nuclear Power Corporation of India (NPC): ::https://vimeo.com/325798827::
12:07:42 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
I suspect the US military DOES NOT want Trump to be in charge of nuclear weapons. Way to dangerous to the planet.
12:08:07 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
In 1982 I knew someone writing a book on UFOs, traveling the country interviewing people who had seen UFOs or been contacted. He said then, that there had been over 15 Million sightings. He stayed with me and took me to who he was interviewing in Portland, Oregon, Ed Palmer [who became a good friend] and co-author of “Hollow Earth”, who felt he had been traded at 18 months with a child from another planet. He was taken on a spaceship in his 60's or 70's, taught cosmogony and cosmology on the way to the moon, taken to the dark side and went through a crater full of water and into the center of the moon where there was a population of 85K people working on spacecraft for our solar system. He taught me a little how the crafts work like a watermelon seed. I later met a man in San Diego who had been invited to move to the moon to work. He said they look for people who don't have bonds. This verified Ed's claim!
12:08:12 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
AYERY, I love you! So much is missed and have been missed by people's snobbish rejection of these major projections. I am haunted by the feeling that I am going through things again! My Cassandra Syndrome, as I was cited with in aPsychology Class back in college and since.
12:09:22 From Lynn Brodlie to Everyone:
Yes, Cynthia, thank you for putting that reminder in here for everyone to listen to their heart where truth exists, not just their head. or other humans alone.
12:09:52 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Join her course in Jan:
12:09:54 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
12:10:18 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
How could this be? In several countries, blue on blue activity, several states 100s of sightings? It is unlikely because Several agencies would have to coordinate on a MASSIVE SCALE and whistleblowers would appear. Not Space Force - in my view. ::https://www.defense.gov/news/releases/release/article/4006538/dhs-fbi-faa-dod-joint-statement-on-ongoing-response-to-reported-drone-sightings/::
12:10:35 From Bruce Davis to Everyone:
I can tell you guys from experience that Birdie has a great understanding of what is happening.
12:10:58 From Elaine Buckler to Everyone:
Hi Birdie! I'm signed up for your class in Jan.
12:11:12 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I saw Birdie create this. She's amazing!!
12:11:31 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
She is amazing: ::https://www.ubiquityuniversity.org/developing-the-human-et-relationship-through-remote-viewing-with-birdie-jaworski/::
12:12:07 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
the phenomena seems to be responding to people's perceptions
12:12:29 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Yes, Avery. Wait till we hear from Chris Bledsoe!!
12:14:11 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
what Birdie is saying makes sense to me - that there is a government psyops and that NHI are observing because they are distrustful of whatever this gov operation is
12:14:52 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
Seems like a classic joint NHI/military operation. Makes sense.
12:15:04 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
😵💫 Check out RUSSELL TARG, the original master of remote viewing, running a US program for 40 years, many great successes, too free thinking and replaced by a more Right WING player (who I know and respect too). But once again, watch his film THIRD EYE SPIES. Jim knows him...
12:15:12 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
She "got" information????
12:15:54 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
I agree with the Dr. Greer theory. I heard this 2 years ago that it was going to happen from him. I heard they are spraying something from them. That is our MO {Modus Operandi}! The reason for having the Disclosure Act to convince us that UFOs are real since they spent all that time convincing the world that they weren't real so they create the Disclosure Act without Disclosing anything!
12:16:10 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Barbro, Birdie uses ESP to "remote view" the NHI. Her intuitive senses have been honed over decades of daily exercise.
12:16:12 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
We also have to remember & reconsider Chris Bledsoe and John Ramírez predictions that by 2026-27, worldview changing events are expected. Maybe this is a preview. Or as Karl Nell said about a 10 year disclosure progra, It should have started in 2017 and is perhaps delayed so the ET are expediting it.
12:16:34 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
"This is a projection screen. You can pluck the fabric if you wish. It is no longer one-way. The truth now lives on your side of the mirror as well. Take comfort from this on your rocky days as you travel into divine communion." (December 15 & 17)
12:16:53 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
Military personel probably could use more compassionate support for their contact experiances, like that heli pilot for example
12:17:26 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:
SO NHI IS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT HUMAN INTELLIGENCE (HI) THAN HI IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE NHI!?
12:18:20 From Bruce Davis to Everyone:
Spot on Jim!
12:18:31 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Birdie's website: ::https://www.norivets.com/::
12:18:51 From Jennifer Comeau to Everyone:
"indelibly fateful" -- love that.
12:18:57 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Welcome, Chris!
12:19:10 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
✨
12:19:48 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
12:19:59 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Chris' son Ryan has an interesting channel: ::https://x.com/RyanDBledsoe::
12:20:14 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
Birdie and Chris, I need to introduce you to Joseph Antaree and he needs to be a guest on the show next year!
12:20:43 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Birdie, I hope you can join us in the AfterChat, and bring Chris with you!!
12:21:15 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
Perhaps the 10 year education and Disclosure process should have started in in 2017 and - since it has been delayed - the NHI, ET are expediting it. Col. Karl Nell spoke about it but only perhaps some authorities in the cabal favoring Disclosure realize that it is starting too late. What do you think?
12:23:29 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:
THE ORBS ARE A FORCE, FORM AND FLOW OF DIVINE INTERVENTION!
12:23:33 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
Sixto Paz Wells agrees they are like foofighters, peaceful and have been with us for many decades.
12:23:42 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
For the NHI it is not a matter of us being likable or unlikable but of being necessary.
12:24:49 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
interesting to think that there could be serious "beings" who are looking to stop a mad man from coming to power in US who would wreak havoc on the entire planet
12:24:56 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Giorgio, "necessary" or intrinsic... we are a part of the Earth.
12:25:12 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
I have been hearing Chris say this for many years. I also reminds me of what John Mack warned of the false fear.
12:25:23 From Leon Dsouza to Host and Panelists:
❤️ Love you Birdie and Chris!! It was nice meeting you Chris at Pasadena!! The world is much better with people like you two in this world.. and setting a good example for all
12:25:39 From Bruce Davis to Everyone:
Are the NHI capable of interacting with people who have passed away physically? This is one of the things I feel I understand. That some NHI have an understanding of the afterlife.
12:25:46 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
The federal authorites regaular and cabal in the know have probably delayed too much the revelation and education program that should have been completed by 2027. Perhaps - given the world situation today - the ETs are expediting this.
12:26:15 From Birdie Jaworski to Everyone:
I will come to the after chat!
12:26:21 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
This is foretold in the Mayan Calendar of conscious human evolution that we are coming out of a dark cycle, but into a period of illumination.
12:27:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
We have been seeking a New Knowledge, a New Way, a New World. We are creating it as we seek, with hopeful imaginations (and without, as well). Be intentional with your dreams, my friends. I want my descendants to have a beautiful abundant lovely world.
12:27:31 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Yay, Birdie!!! Thanks! The AfterChat will welcome you with open hearts and arms!
12:28:02 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
Humanity Rising and TRUTH Rising in a major way that will propel us.✨
12:28:28 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I want to know about the "football-sized" living thing that Chris put in the dog kennel...
12:28:50 From Dianna Winsor to Everyone:
Humility Rising - we are One.
12:28:58 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Chris, please join us in the AfterChat. I've waited so long to meet you!!
12:29:08 From TOBY GROTZ to Everyone:
Marilyn, “Mad” men are already in Power!
12:29:34 From Lynn Brodlie to Everyone:
Have had similar visions and messages, Chris, but necessary to live in a really wonderful world going forward🙏
12:29:48 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
Trump is tipping point, Toby
12:30:05 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Here's Rich's website: ::https://www.explorescu.org/rich-hoffman::
12:30:20 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
The Fed regular and cabal holds on to a military minsdset thinking that regular people cannot handle the truth. I think that the reveal requires simply direct down to Earth truth for people to adapt.
12:30:42 From Lynn Brodlie to Everyone:
Thank you so much for this panel. I have to go but hope to come back for the after chat later ❤️
12:31:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Great, Lynn, hope we'll see you there!
12:31:43 From TOBY GROTZ to Everyone:
Maybe Trump, maybe the tipping point is where we are in the Yuga cycles, and where we are in space as we journey through the cosmos.
12:33:21 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
hydrogen drones 4 hours
12:33:41 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
There are drones that drive on our streets and highways - just means unmanned mobile craft, doesn't it?
12:33:55 From Jean Yzer to Everyone:
I'm sensing the energy of the speakers, very interesting. thank you
12:34:00 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
a drone that has folding wings and take off like an airplane can cost 100s of thousands
12:34:34 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
unmanned aeronautic systems are important tech, for weather, environmental sensing for ag and conservation, search and rescue, and yes defense. but I;m worried about the defense industrie's monopoly on this tech
12:35:12 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
Probably without being under the surveillance of NHI we won't be able to survive AI assisted drones and other technologies for military use that we are developing.
12:36:09 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Avery, that monopoly is primarily due to available funds. We need to know what the defence industry is spending their money on!
12:37:19 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:
DRONES ARE HUMAN INTELLIGENCE WHILE ORBS ARE NHI…?
12:37:56 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
::https://www.explorescu.org/::
12:38:44 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
yes exactly Giorgio, perhaps one of the great filter tests, will it be human totalitarian drone war and surveillance, or benevolent abundance for all? without help, we seem to be heading toward midnight on the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists clock with this one
12:39:05 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
Yes Avery
12:39:43 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
We hold on to childish, behavior because of out ignorance of who we are and what greater reality is
12:43:03 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:
HISTORIC TIME LINE IS KEY TO DISCERNING REALITY…. THANKS STEPHEN
12:44:23 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
We are moving to a disastrous world because we hold on to separation thinking and control of reality among tribes based upon externally - based technologies
12:44:45 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Later today I will be posting a summary of this program and the AfterChat on my blog, updating the post here: ::https://www.patreon.com/posts/drones-by-rising-118300564?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link::
12:45:27 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Giorgio, only if you focus on that future will you wrap it around you. Focus on the world you want and you will manifest it!
12:46:01 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
This is why the Federal Gov agencies have delayed the disclosure and education and are still denying it in spite of the evidence! The DoD dominant view is officially prevailing for the Fed God and agencies and in Congress for the time bing. There is a regression of the UAPDA.
12:46:23 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
From the Q&A: Steven Crawford-Maggard 11:26 AM
How does the East Palestine Derailment affect the environment over a long-term analysis?
Does it explain current drone tasking with past chemical spills/burn?
12:46:47 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:
BRILLIANT DISCERNMENT, STEPHEN
12:47:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thank you, Jim, for creating this forum for truth pursued...
12:47:30 From TOBY GROTZ to Everyone:
Oh, I like this. It’s a really good possible scenario.
12:47:45 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
Stephen Basset makes soooo much sense to me!
12:47:55 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
FROM the Q&A: Avery Lena 11:41 AM
Can any panelist suggest actions for individuals to undertake? Perhaps beyond contacting legislators, I'm thinking more personal and pragmatic, such as meditation, art, discussing with family or friends (or better to hold off?), study and research, career advice (consulting on anomalous phenomena?), practicing psionic abilities, time in nature, citizen science. Thanks <3
12:48:00 From Jennifer Comeau to Everyone:
Wow. I think we all need to breathe for a minute. A lot of energy here.
12:48:01 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
Totally sensible!
12:48:21 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
It takes awareness for embarrassment to set in. I'm not sure they are aware enough to be embarrassed.
12:48:33 From TOBY GROTZ to Everyone:
So, tech guys behind this show, how many people are watching this?
12:48:56 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
Stan, Biden (in spite of defending evidence that is necessary for Democracy to continue) also lack the visionary imagination in terms of the extraordinary situations affecting the world today.
12:49:14 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Jennifer, I hope to find time in the AfterChat to do just that.
12:49:25 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
1600
12:49:27 From Richard Hoffman to Host and Panelists:
I have a hard stop on th ehour for another meeting.
12:49:30 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
From the Q&A: Giorgio Piacenza 11:48 AM
Does the evidence-contradicting joint declaration on December 17 by FAA, DHS, FBI, and Dod (that what we are seeing is legal, lawful, commercial hobyist and law enforcement-based) show that the anti Disclosure forces have forced all these Federal Agencies into lying also convincing President Biden to approve this?
12:49:32 From Jesse Jack to Everyone:
I would like to know that to Stan what can the single person do
12:49:36 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Around 2000
12:49:38 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
live
12:49:41 From Noel Moore Moore to Everyone:
Thank you to all on this panel - deep and interesting discussion
12:49:50 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
Thanks so much for this great presentation/conversation. I've been glued to the screen the whole time.
12:50:15 From TOBY GROTZ to Everyone:
thanks Georg -
12:50:23 From Jennifer Comeau to Everyone:
Thank you all. Deep gratitude for your work across the spectrum of this mystery meets military spectrum.
12:50:24 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:
SIX OF ONE & HALF A DOZEN OF ANOTHER
12:50:28 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
From the Q&A: Giorgio Piacenza 12:21 PM
Perhaps the 10 year education and Disclosure process should have started in in 2017 and - since it has been delayed - the NHI, ET are expediting it. Col. Karl Nell spoke about it but only perhaps some authorities in the cabal favoring Disclosure realize that it is starting too late. What do you think?
12:50:30 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
Yes, Stan I think that the anti Disclosure forces have prevailed for now in the Biden Admisnistration and the FEd agencies fall in place.
12:50:44 From Gianluca Gatti to Host and Panelists:
Is there an after chat today at all?
12:50:57 From Jøran Solberg to Everyone:
whatever it is, the issue of aliens is becoming physical, integrating with our cognition stronger
12:51:02 From Dr Maura Conlon to Host and Panelists:
Is the “mystery drone” news en route to be weaponized in less than a month to support the consolidation of ALL power in USA’s incoming executive wing?
12:51:22 From Linda DeHart to Everyone:
I’d like to ask Birdie, why do orbs etc. care if we harm ourselves? What is our value to them. We seem to be some dsort of investment. And there are so many life forms on the planet to carry on….
12:51:29 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
Georg, can you move the name panels down on Robert, Kevin, Richard and Birdie?
12:51:42 From Jonathan Latimer to Host and Panelists:
Of the vids I’ve seen, many of these drones appear to be a classified version of the Navy’s XP-4 transiting drone, made by The PteroDynamics
12:51:55 From ILEANA RONTEA to Everyone:
yes Jøran!
12:52:00 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
Yes, I agree Joran. The physical aspect of UAP connects with our prevailing cognitive structures and makes it more aceptable.
12:53:49 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
EVERYONE… Please Note that there is no permanent record of the contents of the Q&A. Therefore I try to copy the questions here in the Chat. Please post your questions here. PLEASE preface your questions with a clear note “QUESTION”
12:53:59 From Gianluca Gatti to Everyone:
Oops.. I have sent my question to panelists only.. I ask again; Is there an after chat at all today?
12:54:15 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Yes.
12:54:19 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Yes, Gianluca, there will be an AfterChat.
12:54:23 From Lester Geisel to Everyone:
mufon has all that data.open up Richard.
12:54:40 From Gianluca Gatti to Everyone:
I can’t see the link on the usual Zoom email
12:54:40 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:54:46 From Gianluca Gatti to Everyone:
Thanks
12:54:50 From amanda rouse to Everyone:
if these are helpers, healing energies, what i hear required is to open our hearts, open wider and broader. to enter a humble and listening space. fear can keep us from listening and integrating with our own, bodily organic whole. moving with integrity, healing with earth relationship
12:55:19 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Excellent insight, Amanda
12:55:48 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:
Even if it is 1% that would be enough
12:58:26 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
Georg, thanks for moving some of the panels. Faces of Robert and Kevin cannot yet be seen behind their name panels.
12:59:41 From linda white to Everyone:
Have reserved making a comment on the drones and greatly appreciate this opportunity to hear the views of those who are on the cutting edge of this conversation. My sense from the beginning is that just as Congress has lost control of oversight to the black budget programs, the military has lost control of their nuclear technology by civilian technological initiatives that have obtained access to alien/ufo technology. So what we are witnessing is a combination of civilian and military insiders and their technology. Also found the president elects response to the drones as very telling. He began by criticizing the current administrations response. When asked if he had been briefed …. The most sober stance and response I have ever seen him offer was “I cannot answer that question.” Very telling. Love this conversation and so grateful for the times we are in.
13:00:19 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
If the NHI has the ability to view the future and they see an upcoming nuclear war happening, I suspect they would be compelled to intervene NOW.
13:01:07 From ILEANA RONTEA to Everyone:
Charles, I agree!
13:01:20 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
ethnocentric pride due to excessive adaptation to evolving under physical conditions could be counter acted by learning who we are in a post material manner (that is also scientifically demonstrable). UAP helps us to begin anchoring this greater reality.
13:02:21 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
I think that post materialism in a scientific way is possible and that we need to learn this collectively
13:02:51 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
Georg! Aha! when the microphones are activated, the name panel moves down. Thanks for all you do!!
13:02:56 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Google developed a $700 war drone to deliver bombs, as disclosed by Google president
13:03:27 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Linda De Hart, It is my experience that ALL life is precious, so, we are precious as well. Do not discount what can offer life in an evolutionary sense. NHI would understand that, IMO
13:04:15 From Linda DeHart to Everyone:
Honestly, you are all very bright people with broad perspective, connecting UFOs and drones etc. And I agreee with all of it. However, I’m not sure who’s at the helm can operate as broadly. Could this just be a typical self-serving exercise by the new administration to protect Trump? Or could it be a way to extend military funding into a new realm? I’m aware that them military machine is really quite weighty. My confidence in government is not as full as this conversation implies.
13:04:27 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
The mysterious “Victor” EBE videotape of the EBE interview at Area 51 years ago forecasted a nuclear war that appears to happen under an individual that clearly seems like Trump.
13:05:48 From linda white to Everyone:
Charles do you have a link to that interview?
13:06:27 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
QUESTION: Richard H can you advise on getting into UAS/UAV industry as a hobbyist or freelancer?
13:06:27 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
It’s on YouTube.
13:06:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I will be posting a summary of this meeting, and the AfterChat, later today, editing this post with the details: ::https://www.patreon.com/posts/drones-by-rising-118300564?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link::
13:06:56 From Jean Yzer to Everyone:
my "sense" reading is that we are aware that there is a human made drones reality, but this is a true mix of human and NHI.
13:07:07 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
Thinking more about funding and networking rather than basics like liscencing remote id etc.
13:08:20 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
FROM the Q&A: Avery Lena 12:24 PM
Re: my comment on the great filter and NHI intervention: are they just warning and signaling us and trying to communicate to individuals while respecting our free will, or is a direct intervention going to happen that will force us to stop the violence against the earth and eachother? Thanks all
Steven Crawford-Maggard 1:03 PM
f information can travel faster than light, does this suggest that time and space themselves might be a construct of perception, and that non-local consciousness exists, potentially outside of time?
13:08:43 From linda white to Everyone:
Charles this is what comes up on You Tube. Are any of these the link you mentioned? ::https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ebi+and+area+51::
13:09:06 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
I think that (in general) ET have been patient and kind enough to give us time to change our self destructive and life destructive ways but time has run out. They lprobably understand more than us how important it is to continue human and Earth life. Ee still think to locally and tribally. Some ET NHI likely think we are alost cause or don't want us to gather too much power due to our stubborness. Others likely think that they have damaged us and turn us into excessively sttuborn but still have hopes that we can change.
13:09:44 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
The Q&A is a dead End. Please post all questions HERE
13:10:18 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
EBE interview segments are here: ::https://duckduckgo.com/?q=EBE+ET+interview+Part+3&t=ffab&atb=v168-1&iar=videos&iax=videos&ia=videos::
13:10:54 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Everyone, the Q&A is ignored by Jim and does not become part of the archive of Humanity Rising so please, use the chat to ask your questions. If we can, we will address them in the AfterChat.
13:11:05 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
I'm not sure "patience" is the right word for the ET's I think it is more that the time is simply up. Now is the time for all of us to know.
13:11:11 From Jennifer Comeau to Everyone:
Yes.
13:11:13 From linda white to Everyone:
Thank you Charles. And yes to the perspective of Steve Basset.
13:11:57 From Jennifer Comeau to Everyone:
It's not JUST about TRUTH, it's also about RECONCILIATION because of the severe harm done to the witnesses.
13:12:10 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
Yes, Steve. I agree that the whys are most most important. ICER is publishing some initial statements about this.
13:12:11 From linda white to Everyone:
Agreed Jennifer. My heart.
13:12:22 From Dianna Winsor to Everyone:
Yes, it's much more than a mix of human and NHI sightings. I believe that Stephen Bassett should be acknowledged for offering what seems to be a more likely situation -- an intervention by NHI to both warn and sustain life on this planet due to the irrational and indiscriminate warmongering with potential nuclear consequences (lethal and catastrophic) which are moving into potentiality within our nearest timeline. Thanks Stephen.
13:12:35 From Alison Burchell to Everyone:
Jim et. al. ... can you speak to a question on many folx mind = the "Space X" factor?
13:12:50 From Robert Spearing to Host and Panelists:
thanks steve
13:13:04 From linda white to Everyone:
This whole session will be played over and over !
13:13:30 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
yes you need to edit Stephen's last comments as a singular piece
13:14:06 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
AND we have time to talk about this whole thing together!! Join me and Stan in the AfterChat...
13:14:26 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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13:14:36 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
agreed Chris that seems to be part of it, is the apparent morphology changing (in response to our thoughts and observations?)
13:15:02 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
The mimicry may be due to what can be called a "mutual enactment" phenomenon or mechanism when two distinct ontological realities mix.
13:15:19 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Chris, I'm so glad to have you on this panel today. Your experience is important for all to know.
13:15:42 From linda white to Everyone:
Exactly.
13:16:04 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
I think the NHI has a huge investment in this planet and its people. They want to protect their investment.
13:16:31 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
Consider that we are building our immunity for the future. We can evolve through this.
13:16:33 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
There indeed is a Higher Power that is uncreated and is the Personal Eternal Source of all things. Pure bBing.
13:16:44 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
Being
13:17:08 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Birdie, I'm so glad you'll be joining the AfterChat!!!
13:17:26 From Sue Baugh to Everyone:
What about Birdie??? Let her speak!
13:17:31 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
This is very good thank you !
13:17:54 From Sue Baugh to Host and Panelists:
Jim, Call on Birdie please!!
13:18:00 From ruth burnett to Host and Panelists:
I too want to hear from Birdie
13:18:36 From Astrid Stahlberg to Everyone:
Why cannot Birdue take???
13:18:48 From Robert Spearing to Host and Panelists:
we forgot birdie
13:18:54 From Astrid Stahlberg to Everyone:
I sorry….. mean talk?
13:19:01 From Jonathan Latimer to Host and Panelists:
Not dismissing the possibility of NHI mimicry, but operating from a principal of parsimony, have the panelists seen a PteroDynamics Transwing XP-4 drone? The size, profile, and flight characteristics are a pretty good fit for what some people are seeing. It appears the loitering time may have been beefed up considerably, but Navy has a operating corridor from the coast right over NJ…
13:19:03 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Yes Birdie will speak.
13:19:48 From Dianna Winsor to Everyone:
Chris, profound thanks for your insight and courage and guidance here today.
13:20:22 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
As the only woman on the panel, and the only Remote Viewer, Birdie's perspective is especially welcome!
13:20:23 From Robert Spearing to Host and Panelists:
orbs do change into aircraft. they turn into entities also.
13:21:02 From linda white to Everyone:
Surprised you mentioned the inability to sleep Georg. I was wide awake most of the night last night.
13:21:20 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
You are very connected with us, Georg. Glad to have you with us... and Linda, me too.
13:21:38 From Tim Moffett to Host and Panelists:
It occurs to me that the reason the Governments don't expose the truth is that the Governments would lose their power position to this higher reality.
13:21:39 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
Sombre
13:21:41 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
This is what we came here for!!
13:21:45 From Dianna Winsor to Everyone:
Yes, the tension is becoming unsustainable.
13:21:46 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
First they basically said that the drones were not foreign adversaries and not U.S. military and then they said that they were normal. In both cases their words were supposed to calm down the population. On purpose?
13:22:01 From Jennifer Comeau to Everyone:
Dear Stan and Shannon. Blessings to you both and deep gratitude for holding the conversation space in the afterchat. After a session such as this, as with many deep sessions, I find it most valuable for me to go outside and process it alone. Happy Festive time to all and thank you all for your perspectives, wisdom, big caring hearts and open minds.
13:22:22 From linda white to Everyone:
Good news.
13:22:28 From Elaine Buckler to Everyone:
Profound, Georg!
13:22:28 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
13:22:44 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Join Birdie in January!
13:23:26 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
Yes, too anomalous and showing too openly and in too many places to for them all to be military. Even in small towns in Nebraska a few years ago.
13:23:35 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Yahoo!! Thanks, Birdie!
13:23:39 From Jennifer Comeau to Everyone:
Thank you, as always, Jim.
13:23:40 From michael coles to Everyone:
its a mad mad mad world, its comical book at best
13:24:08 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
The deeper question seems to be connection or separation. This is also one that comes up at this time of the year. Many blessings to all!!! Trust joy.
13:24:10 From Sue Baugh to Everyone:
Fantastic presentation that deserves wide distribution!! Let’s all share this with our networks!
13:24:20 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
It is sounding like Landmark Forum 101 There is the area you know you don't know, the area you do know and the bulk of the pie is the area you don't know you don't know. When you get some new information that you didn't know before then part of that area you didn't know becomes part that you do know. That is where possibilities lie! That is why it is always important to look at new information!
13:24:57 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
See you in the After Chat!
13:25:34 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::
Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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13:25:39 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Yes, Carol Sue, and Birdie and Stan and Giorgio, and others, maybe Jim...!!
13:25:44 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Connection is holy!
13:26:13 From Avery Lena to Everyone:
Profound words Jim, thank you
13:26:36 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
::https://www.ubiquityuniversity.org/certificate-masters-and-phd-programs-in-extraterrestrial-studies/::
13:27:17 From Giorgio Piacenza to Everyone:
Wise words really Jim!
13:27:20 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
Yes Jim! It’s what’s up! We are accessing our divinity/ connection to the oneness and sacredness of All-That-Is and will act from that place - soon!
13:27:21 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
I have a medical appointment… Shannon will be opening the AfterChat.
13:27:22 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:
SACREDICITY
13:27:27 From linda white to Everyone:
Absolutely beautiful Jim.
13:27:30 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I think Jim's Nugget, today, is in his closing instead of the introduction! It has been such an adventure transcribing Jim's words into my blog. See today's later today: ::https://www.patreon.com/posts/drones-by-rising-118300564?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link::
13:27:37 From Dianna Winsor to Everyone:
Wonderful soul sustainer to be here with you all today. Humanity Rising - a pearl without price!
13:27:38 From Dr. Egbert Edelbroek to Host and Panelists:
Loved it, thanks!!!
13:27:41 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Beautiful, Jim! Happy holidays Holy days.
13:27:43 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:
SACREDICITY
13:27:44 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::
Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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13:27:55 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
::https://newparadigminstitute.org/take-action/demand-transparency-and-accountability-on-drones/::
13:28:07 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
What a great gift to experience this meeting. Thank you!
13:28:14 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:
As your organizational name notes, We need a major world-wide paradigm shift!
13:28:27 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::
Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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13:28:43 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
This is what we came here for... 🎉
13:28:50 From Annelies Weijschede to Everyone:
❤️
13:28:52 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Thank you all!!
13:28:53 From Laura Clough to Everyone:
Thanks Everyone!
13:29:05 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
extraordinary session!
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