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- Date: Wednesday September 23, 2020 (2020-09-01)
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From: Liliane Mavridara (11:01 AM) Happy Wednesday Everyone!
From: Peter Merry (11:01 AM) Hi everyone! Welcome (back)!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:02 AM) Happy 101, everyone! Glad to ‘feel’ you here… thank you, Jim for your warm welcome.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:02 AM) Hello People, Just said to my friend "I AM) You and we are we". Fits. Love to All xxx
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:02 AM) Good Morning From: the woods of North Carolina
From: Shannon McArthur (11:02 AM) Yay jim!!
From: Tim Freke (11:02 AM) ♥️🙏
From: Diane Skidmore (11:02 AM) Wow!!!
From: Sabinije von Gaffke (11:03 AM) Welcome all you beautiful souls and thank you for joining us for the 101 episode of Humanity Rising! ♥️🙏
From: Diane Skidmore (11:04 AM) Oh gosh!! Kinda goes against the joy but...…. We can work on that. Together. Can't we!!!
From: Sabinije von Gaffke (11:04 AM) Today Peter Merry hosts a dialogue with British philosopher Tim Freke
From: David Stoney (11:04 AM) HiHo Everyone. Looking forward to Tim’s sharing… David Stoney
From: Peter Merry (11:05 AM) If you want to share your comments with everyone, please select “All panelists and attendees” From: the blue dropdown.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:06 AM) Lockdown has highlighted our issues. We know what to work on now, don't we xxx Again, LOVE to all!! Love is the answer. All we need is love. All THEY need is love, actually xxx. We have it and - WE can share xxx
From: Me (11:07 AM) . ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541 ========================== . We also have an email list for Chat People to interact without being on at the sAM)e time. Write to be added to the list: -- stan@communitymagic.org ========================== . ..oOo..
From: Kala Perkins (11:08 AM) Deep deep compassion for all these Women and Girls who suffer as Mother Gaia is suffering🌹🙏
From: Diane Skidmore (11:08 AM) Thank you Sabinije - "....soon to be old paradigm." xxx We need to change US!!!
From: Sharon Truax (11:11 AM) thank you sabinije. a powerful 100 days. a wonderful gift and opportunity to expand
From: Shannon McArthur (11:11 AM) We are changing - with help From: our philosophers!! Thank you, Sabinije.
From: lynne yeannakis (11:14 AM) Day 100 is missing From: the recordings
From: Richard Buckley (11:14 AM) It will be up today.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:20 AM) Wonderful!! The Vast majority of people!!! It's US!! We're evolving!!! Yaaay!!
From: Bruce Schuman (11:21 AM) Wow! Good morning. For me, this is AM)azing synchronicity -- because I have spent the last three days writing an introductory review of this Many/One relationship written for my interfaith friends, and defined in terms of cognitive science and the vision of "unity in diversity". It It does embrace the mathematical theory of categories, and is designed to support a global network with a new vision of justice and governance.
All the issues that Tim is mentioning are factors in what I have been writing. So yes -- perfect timing. Awesome.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:21 AM) Don't you just LOVE him!!?!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:22 AM) morning Bruce! Ty for sharing!
From: metta flows (11:22 AM) Question for Tim; have you ever had experiences practicing this with with little to no awareness, empathy or concerns of others?
From: Diane Skidmore (11:22 AM) Helllooooo Bruce!! Synchronicitous indeed!!!
From: lynne yeannakis (11:22 AM) Have you done this successfully on zoom?
From: Diane Skidmore (11:23 AM) magic!!!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:23 AM) serving MOM!!
From: metta flows (11:23 AM) bit to above; with persons who have little capacity for compassion, even narcissistic tendencies?
From: Kurt Krueger (11:23 AM) We are still connected on Zoom.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:24 AM) hahaha - we are connected even without zoom!!!
From: Kurt Krueger (11:24 AM) totally
From: Me (11:24 AM) @Bruce - I'd like to know about the mathematical theory of categories. It's not something I've heard of... Please point me to a resource on it.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:24 AM) Hahah - just believe it. And DO it!!! Spread Love!!! We are one!!! We say it every day!! gosh, over-excited here. gonna calm down xxx
From: Shannon McArthur (11:25 AM) Breathe, Diane!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:25 AM) hahaha yes xxx
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:25 AM) @Meta - the connection has be allowed by both parties - it can’t be forced. I thin that is the one necessary ingredient…
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:25 AM) yes it works beautifully on zoom. I do the Divine Heart Meditation with over 100's people logging in on fb and youtube . and the energy transcends medium and distances.
From: Bruce Schuman (11:25 AM) I have so much to learn From: Tim. He is building features in the new world that I AM) seeing....
From: Diane Skidmore (11:26 AM) Actually, if we love we can shower!!! (It lands wherever we send it!!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:26 AM) Choice is important… necessary. Kathryn.
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:26 AM) Yes some traditions have an either or approach.
From: Kurt Krueger (11:27 AM) Two sides of a coin, it only flows and rolls when balanced equally - the TAO. The relationship…
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:27 AM) Its the one in relationship with its self through its relationship with you.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:27 AM) Love him. Yes!! This is it!!!
From: Jenna Tontz (11:27 AM) The human and spiritual experience feels simultaneous to me
From: Diane Skidmore (11:27 AM) And IT is NOW!!!
From: Sharon Truax (11:27 AM) this and more.......
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:27 AM) @Jenna - yes!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:28 AM) One can not evolve unless held unless relating to itself
From: Shannon McArthur (11:28 AM) my soul is singing…
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:28 AM) Forgotten to love the earth
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:28 AM) Its all energy and frequency , it about how you perceive it and experience it at different times. in the now of that time.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:29 AM) @Peter - the earth is Mother Nature and we, the people are love and us and workable - individually and together
From: Shannon McArthur (11:29 AM) we are the torus of time turning Itself inside out to see Itself.
From: metta flows (11:29 AM) Question for Tim; do you think this oneness recognition exercise is possible to practice with persons who have little to no interest in empathy for others; persons who have little access to compassion, even narcissistic tendencies?
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:29 AM) If you have ever healed yourself you have had an experience of this. We are us talking to…our body, our environment, our self as animals/planes...
From: Jenna Tontz (11:29 AM) I feel like a practical way to communicate this with the masses is that humans are PART of the earth/nature.
From: Bruce Schuman (11:29 AM) Right -- the connection. Why did I show up exactly on time this morning? And @Stan -- I have a lot of textbooks on related subjects.
From: Peg Kuperman (11:29 AM) @Kathryn…agreed…always curious how to blend the ingredients to harmonize with the ‘other’…impossible if the other is not allowing?
From: Diane Skidmore (11:29 AM) We are part o fteh earth - gosh, as I write - thank you Tim xxx
From: Jenna Tontz (11:30 AM) Now you’re getting to the point of our brains which is to realize imagination…
From: David Stoney (11:30 AM) Yes, there really does seem to be a sort of awakening to oneness that is sweeping the globe. In the United States the ruling elites do not seem to be aware of this. Meanwhile we are all in the box of exploitive capitalism and I find it hard to imagine that our rulers will voluntarily relinquish their power. So, can we really expect a widespread transformation in consciousness with some truly mind boggling event, an initiatory event even larger than the current pandemic??? David Stoney
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:30 AM) @Peg - all lessons are needed - even that of total separation. The pain of than is a useful reminder laster…
From: Jenna Tontz (11:31 AM) This makes Einstein’s statement more instructional than whimsical which most people interpret it to be. Imagination is more powerful than knowledge. It is with our imaginations that higher intelligence is accessed.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:32 AM) We are all little drops of water, part of the ocean that's how - each person control every thought (each thought is a seed) and therefore - evolve - as and with - the planet
From: Sharon Truax (11:32 AM) I AM) just now glimpsing this interconnection after 40 years of inner practice
From: Jenna Tontz (11:32 AM) Yes Peter say it!! We need to be fully in our bodies!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:32 AM) and different each time
From: Kala Perkins (11:32 AM) It sounds like a vey childlike experience of loving presence, before all the cognitive separation sense
From: metta flows (11:33 AM) A QUESTION FOR TIM; do you think this oneness recognition is possible to practice with persons who have little to no interest in empathy for others; persons who have little access to compassion, even narcissistic tendencies? would you have any experience of this you might be able to share?
From: Bruce Schuman (11:33 AM) "transcendent" might be interpretd in a conceptual sense -- such as "transcend and include"
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:33 AM) @Jenna - Yes!
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:33 AM) @Metta, perhaps put your question in the Q&A so that it doesn't get lost in the chat.
From: Sharon Truax (11:33 AM) @peter YES!
From: metta flows (11:34 AM) Thank you, Lilliane<3
From: Me (11:34 AM) @Bruce - The clue you've offered will get me started on my own learning about the topic of categories. I've been foolish enough to build my own category system based on my instinct. https://othernetworks.org/The_OtherNetworks_Category_System
From: Diane Skidmore (11:34 AM) @David Stoney - yes - seems like the 'elete' are not noticing the consciousness wave. We can (and we must, expect a widespread change in consciousness - it's happening. WE may not understand quite how but yes, imagine a better world!! Please!! quickly!!
From: David Stoney (11:34 AM) Oops. I meant “without a truly mind boggling event, an initiatory event even larger than the pandemic???” David Stoney
From: Bruce Schuman (11:34 AM) The theme for me right now is "The Religion That is to Come" -- inspired by the United Religions Initiative
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:35 AM) @David - climate change??
From: Diane Skidmore (11:35 AM) The pandemic IS the mind boggling event!! Thank goodness it's not slowing down!!!
From: Sharon Truax (11:35 AM) welcome to our world!
From: Bruce Schuman (11:35 AM) @Stan http://transformthesystem.net/sectors.cfm
From: Shannon McArthur (11:36 AM) i see “it’, Bruce, I believe. Glad you’re looking through your lens.
From: David Stoney (11:36 AM) Yes, Katherine, it has to potential for global catastrophe… David Stoney
From: Diane Skidmore (11:36 AM) @Kathryn - the pandemic and climate change are totally connected -as is BLM!! Everythign is connected - there's a flow goingon!!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:37 AM) @Diane yup
From: Kala Perkins (11:37 AM) Itbis also what’s happening to women in lockdown, not only in France; the need for men to learn relationship skills and love
From: Diane Skidmore (11:37 AM) Thank you again Tim - not goin gback - going forward - the Next Stage!!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:37 AM) Yes we are moving forward
From: Bruce Schuman (11:37 AM) There never were the good old days. It's not a return to Eden.
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:38 AM) Yeah Ken!
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:38 AM) @Metta, everything is part of perfect divine design. If some people are incapable of empathy or are totally narcissistic , they are there for a reason, it could be to show us contrast, or it could be part of their soul journey, its their divine plan. all you can do is spread unconditional love.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:38 AM) The movement is a spiral, so ‘back’ is not actually back as it’s at a higher level, but its is a revisiting of a kind.
From: Peg Kuperman (11:38 AM) Truly a remarkable time to be human….in such gratitude to feel this universal change in consciousness…may the ache in my heart feel this lightness for all
From: metta flows (11:39 AM) thank you for your view malign. Would love to hear what Tim has to say
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:39 AM) We loose it in the West due to our birthing process
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:39 AM) @Kathryn, the cycle is a spiral it returns to the sAM)e place but not t the sAM)e point or at the sAM)e level.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:39 AM) @Peg Yes. I shower love to your ache of the heart xxx - a remarkable time indeed. Aren't we lucky!!!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:39 AM) it was necessary … sorry … and now we Rise, Humanity!
From: metta flows (11:39 AM) Malini(auto spell) sorry!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:39 AM) @Malini - yes
From: Diane Skidmore (11:40 AM) @Malini!!! Yes!!! clever - a spiral!!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:41 AM) hahaha - as they're saying - round and round in circles but - it's spirals!! We learn on the way!! (Hopefully haha From: Peter Merry (11:42 AM) From: Ken Wilber’s Up From: Eden
From: Peg Kuperman (11:42 AM) @Diane…so very fortunate….silently in gratitude From: the start of the pandemic for the awareness for humanity our embrace of the suffering
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:42 AM) That's a typically western approach.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:42 AM) So glad to hear this narrative as - all the 'bad stuff' that happened - we were not aware of some things!!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:42 AM) @Tim - when we can finally ‘include’ then we forgive ourselves for the repression and separation.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:42 AM) we didn't know!!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:43 AM) @Peter - thank ou!
From: Bruce Schuman (11:43 AM) This is powerful stuff. We are pushing through to a new world.
From: Shannon McArthur (11:43 AM) We were the Child. Being the Child, learning how to be Other and Separate From: Her.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:43 AM) We were never vicious and evil - although by now, lack of consciousness verges on that but - before - consciousness wasn't a thing!!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:44 AM) Remember we are coming From: a dominant culture thinking
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:44 AM) OOOH the classic man vs environment argument and isn't man part of the environment!!!!!
From: Jenna Tontz (11:44 AM) I would disagree in saying we didn’t know better after a certain period. millions of women killed for KNOWING.
From: Sharon Truax (11:44 AM) make a mess and clean it up....
From: Shannon McArthur (11:44 AM) @Jenna - we couldn’t go forward without the rest of us...
From: Me (11:44 AM) We need to consciously start using bio-degradable packaging!!! We need to develop packaging materials that won't build up on our beaches and in our oceans, not to say on our city streets.
From: Bruce Schuman (11:45 AM) Well @Doreen -- I'm "coming From: Berkeley" -- so I AM) carrying less moss on my back.... :): From: Diane Skidmore (11:45 AM) @Jenna yes. I agree. Slightly different level tho - part of a learning curve (I thinkYes - more 'oneness' going on!!
From: Jenna Tontz (11:46 AM) I thinking consciousness has always been but wounded and traumatized humans who were not interested in healing themselves but rather defending themselves (men especially) against being overpowered and the divine feminine is energetically powerful and undeniable.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:46 AM) @Jenna - powerful insight
From: Shannon McArthur (11:46 AM) yes! Tim, YES!
From: David Stoney (11:46 AM) There have been changes in the organization of our brains that make appreciation of our oneness with nature and the living world difficult. Literacy is a big part of this. Language, reading, and writing make use of the part of the left hemisphere that would otherwise make us aware of our participation with universal creativity. David Stoney
From: Diane Skidmore (11:46 AM) Agree - forgive the events of the past and move forward!!!
From: Bruce Schuman (11:47 AM) this "embodiment" of oneness is fascinating and healthy. but we will must conceptualize the idea accurately, because we are trapped in concept-based battles
From: Jenna Tontz (11:47 AM) The “us v. them” mentality is even older in misogyny than in racism. insanity.
From: Ingunn Grande (11:47 AM) Thank you :) From: Ingunn, Norway - please add me to the email list: integralion@hotmail.com
From: Diane Skidmore (11:48 AM) One race - the human race is just the first step on the road of 'one piece of energy - we're all part of it" or "We are all it" Drops in the ocean again xxx
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:49 AM) https://youtu.be/Rr5Zm0wEZW4
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:49 AM) WE are back to inclusion, once again - in breath, out breath
From: Kala Perkins (11:49 AM) Men’s fear of dissolving in the One as One with all and The One - no ace male, is contrary to the testosterone impulse; what he is saying is so powerful at the root of the human dilemma
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:49 AM) ys the collective through the individual. the sum of the parts is always greter than the whole.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:49 AM) Loads of love. No fear!! @Kala
From: Kala Perkins (11:50 AM) Non domination culture; love as power and empowerment
From: Jenna Tontz (11:50 AM) I think it’s important to ask “where is the dominant system psychology and spirituality originating From: ”?
From: Diane Skidmore (11:50 AM) @Tim - in answer to "This is my truth" - answer, yes but...….. (rather than no) xxx
From: Sharon Truax (11:51 AM) fewer words more stillness- less head - more heart. deeper listening
From: Bruce Schuman (11:51 AM) i want to see the mapping of each major tradition in the world into a common ground of "the one" -- organized, clear, negotiated -- on our way towards creating a new "univesal house of justice" -- in Bahai' terms
From: Jenna Tontz (11:51 AM) the Science of Psychology and healing the insanity of the dominant system thinking is critical. @Diane “Yes, and...”
From: Kala Perkins (11:52 AM) Meaning as Being itself; love as ontology
From: Diane Skidmore (11:52 AM) Would suggest that - educated astute people are NOT the ones running the world right now. That's where we need to go next!! (At the mo we've got the selfish greedy people in charge From: Annelies Weijschede (11:52 AM) …and spiritual ecology…?
From: Diane Skidmore (11:52 AM) @Jenna - thanks xxx
From: Bruce Schuman (11:53 AM) so empower spirituality with science
From: Diane Skidmore (11:53 AM) On radio now - "I want something more" hahaha
From: Ma Dadey (11:53 AM) @Diane so true
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:53 AM) Yes it is a magical dreAM).
From: Jenna Tontz (11:53 AM) science and spirituality are coming into harmony moreso now than ever it seems
From: Diane Skidmore (11:53 AM) Roisin Murphy (if anyone's interested - great!! From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:54 AM) Bruce you can create the mapping
From: Diane Skidmore (11:54 AM) Harmony!!! Yes!!! Love love love xxxxx
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:55 AM) @Peter - yes
From: Jenna Tontz (11:55 AM) the Enlightenment part isn’t all that hard, you can realize it in a weekend course but the WORK that comes afterwards in that awareness is the challenge in this modern world and especially in the US w/ our capitalist health care system. People need to heal themselves with the interdependence and assistance of other people!
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:56 AM) enlightenment is not a destination its a journey, its a process, where every stage is a destination of that stage or not .
From: Kala Perkins (11:56 AM) Does deep love as an experience transform the psychobiology of the male? Does it modify the behavior of testosterone in the individual and the collective? the
From: Diane Skidmore (11:56 AM) @Peter yes so - build and grow the Love thing - really quickly!! @Tim - the big story is - one piece of energy - it is us!!!
From: Shannon McArthur (11:56 AM) Luckily, it’s really not in our hands. The One has been weaving us together From: outside of Time… through us, She works the pieces together…
From: Bruce Schuman (11:56 AM) @Doreen -- I think Tim said someting about this "mapping" in his opening comments -- that he was doing that....
From: Shannon McArthur (11:56 AM) As much as YOU are a process… and SO MUCH MORE
From: Sharon Truax (11:56 AM) yes! keep eye on the prize!
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:57 AM) Yes and can not be understood in it’s totality
From: Kala Perkins (11:57 AM) Real love overcoming fear and dominant behaviors
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:57 AM) It’s all consciousness - so how couldn’t it ALL evolve?
From: Diane Skidmore (11:57 AM) So our mind control - every single one of us takes responsibility for every single thought -will move us as part of evolution
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:57 AM) Infinite potential
From: Kala Perkins (11:58 AM) Love cant harm or exploit another because that is oneself
From: Shannon McArthur (11:58 AM) Bless you all… I will come back to the recording. I have a live call at 9… (sigh, this is so fertile and abundant..! From: Jenna Tontz (11:58 AM) I agree @Diane, we have to take responsibility for ourselves and others.
From: Bruce Schuman (11:58 AM) well, computers are just switches.....
From: Jenna Tontz (11:59 AM) like our children and other children and oppressed people
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:59 AM) Implicate order
From: Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson (11:59 AM) If All-That-Is is in conversation with itself and we are simply aspects of All-That-Is, are we not simply playing with our thoughts and feelings about ourselves as aspects of All-That-Is as we evolve?
From: Diane Skidmore (12:00 PM But - all a bit too complicated for us people on the ground (ooops, apologies for that statement but -
From: Bruce Schuman (12:00 PM soul has no eternal pre-existence... (?? From: MALINI Rajendran (12:00 PM agree with TIM its part of the theory of the seven realms. It emerges towards evolving.
From: Jenna Tontz (12:00 PM Cynthia Bourgeault’s new book “Eye of the Heart” talks about this linear causality vs. imaginal causality
From: Kala Perkins (12:01 PM SakyAM)uni says: Go beyond even consciousness to the Deathless- as inherent reality; that’s in all the spiritual traditions.
From: Bruce Schuman (12:01 PM Do we have to be afraid of religion? Or are we creating a new religion?
From: Diane Skidmore (12:01 PM And double apologies - intended to delete the last bit but - pressed go - ooops again
From: Annelies Weijschede (12:02 PM there is the dialogue in traditional buddhist environments about the oneness of religion (inner oneness of religion - Fritjof Schuon From: Kala Perkins (12:02 PM It’s both evolving in and as consciousness becoming aware of and in relationship to Totality
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:02 PM Science at the current level is inadequate.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:03 PM @Bruce - I think we're part of a new movement but the word religion can mislead
From: Kurt Krueger (12:03 PM KALA, Change for a more positive future starts early ~ PARENTING is awesomely effective. Read: Nurturing with Love and Wisdom, Disciplining with Peace and Respect by Diane Tillman. Living Values: The first two Values instructed are Love and Peace. All the other Values are generated From: these. Developing quality Character traits is vitally important for all levels of society. When will this be emphasized? There is one progrAM), http://LivingValues.net that has over 90% reduction in violence in a Thai Refugee CAM)p within 2 years! The woman who developed it then went to Johannesburg, RSA and designed a progrAM) for street people - similar results! We can then evolve even further by meditating to the source of thoughts, Consciousness. What will you do with this information?
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:03 PM not only light , sound, vibrations, and the void.
From: David Stoney (12:03 PM We’ve had to go through this time of alienation, but we’re ha
From: Bruce Schuman (12:04 PM I been using "spectrum" as basic to what I AM) writing. I think "the one" IS a spectrum -- but it is defined as infinite/endless -- and it is From: there (??) that all things emerge and within which they are contained and evolve
From: Diane Skidmore (12:04 PM We certainly need to have no fear tho - of religion or anything else (even of being eaten by tigers) An understanding of religion can be included in edcuation
From: David Stoney (12:04 PM headed to awareness of participation as co-creators with universal creativity… David
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:04 PM Cause and effect is what?
From: Peg Kuperman (12:04 PM @Bruce…does it need to be a new religion or perhaps just a new Way of Being human?
From: Kala Perkins (12:04 PM Great reference Kurt, thank you!
From: Bruce Schuman (12:04 PM @Peg - yes that is a big question. Are we forming an agreement?
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:04 PM yes In-Formation. and Involution .
From: Bruce Schuman (12:06 PM "cut to the simplest" -- great design principle. i think it implieis optimization
From: Jenna Tontz (12:06 PM I’m curious to hear Tim’s perspective on the realm of dreAM)s which sometimes produce original images that are not found in what we materially know already.
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:06 PM The moment is informing us forward
From: Jenna Tontz (12:07 PM images that we cannot nAM)e nor fully identify
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:07 PM You got it-there is only NOW.
From: Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson (12:07 PM However, Einstein and others have demonstrated that Time is not linear.
From: Bruce Schuman (12:07 PM God is One embodied (? From: Jenna Tontz (12:07 PM @Doreen yes! what who or where is creating the information of “the moment”?
From: Kala Perkins (12:08 PM Religion got usurped by the deluded male ego of domination ; so the real essence needs to be iterated and reiterated - Love and the One - without all the shells of distortion; Dpiritual but not”deluded usurped”religious”
From: Bruce Schuman (12:08 PM Dalai LAM)a talks about "the beginningless universe"
From: Peg Kuperman (12:08 PM @Doreen..yes learning to completely trust in the unknown
From: Doreen Tanenbaum (12:09 PM Peg that is what I got this morning in med
From: Bruce Schuman (12:09 PM That evolutionary path sounds very linear -- start here, go to there....
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:09 PM If we are evolving BACK into our self then the universe as torus makes sense.
From: Jenna Tontz (12:09 PM our brains think (key word, intellectual faculty) linearly, our imaginations can access beyond linear
From: Laura Madsen (12:09 PM Agreed Kala. Well said!
From: Bruce Schuman (12:10 PM Yes, I like the torus or moebius strip "closed loop" approach
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:10 PM @ Malini - the non-liberality of time?
From: Diane Skidmore (12:10 PM So.... The universe IS God - god is everything
From: Kala Perkins (12:10 PM The idea of beginingless endlessness - is at the root of all the traditions- older than the human experience of time
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:10 PM non-linearality
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:11 PM Perception - feeling - frequency
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:11 PM implicate order
From: Bruce Schuman (12:12 PM @Kala -- yes. very foundational and universal.
From: Jenna Tontz (12:12 PM it seems it’s both @Bruce, right? Evolution is progressing and on earth we do have linear causality. and ALSO/simultaneously there is a non-linear realm/state that our imagination can access
From: David Stoney (12:12 PM @Kathryn, I don’t think we can or want to go BACk. Let’s go forward to the oneness by recognizing that our evolution is an open-ended multidimensional spiral to greater and greater understanding… David Stoney
From: Kala Perkins (12:12 PM Maybe conflating the human experience with a projection onto the entire cosmic reality is a question here
From: Bruce Schuman (12:12 PM @Jenna -- yes..... "Story" is ok. But I want "solution" : From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:13 PM @David Stoney - if we cAM)e form the divine and are evolving into the divine, then are we going ‘back?”
From: Jenna Tontz (12:14 PM and Kairos time
From: Bruce Schuman (12:14 PM "cosmological time"
From: Sharon Truax (12:14 PM thank you all. so much to digest! mystical
From: Kala Perkins (12:14 PM Did we ‘leave’ it ? Or is it a matter of waking up again to being the Divine
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:14 PM we need to separate the experiential the perceptual and the tangible it will be different for each one of us. Time is simultaneous or parallel.
From: Bruce Schuman (12:15 PM "Reality is everything happening at once"
From: David Stoney (12:15 PM @Katherine, I like Tim’s idea that the divine is not simply “before” but has been and is evolving along with us. I love the mystery!! David Stoney
From: Kala Perkins (12:16 PM concurrently with the human experiential evolving - time and timeless concurrently, embedded layers of ontology
From: Kurt Krueger (12:16 PM Peter, which of Tim’s book would you recommend for we ‘Chatters’? Tim, using your oneness sense, what book of your’s would you recommend for us?
From: Jenna Tontz (12:16 PM @Kala I believe so (waking up)! the challenge to realize anthropos was the teaching of Christ. His protege Mary Mag learned and realized it. it’s learnable! : From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:16 PM @David - how is the divine connected to life - the magic that happens when we are ‘born?”
From: Jenna Tontz (12:16 PM @Kala and the learning is the work of unlearning! what a paradox!
From: Dehanna Rice (12:17 PM Just cAM)e on...Yep, the present is the now moment of ALL of Reality! The Language of the Universe is through “Image”...The DreAM), the Biology, the Life we lead are interconnection of “The GreatMystery” of the Native AM)erican belief system!
From: Bruce Schuman (12:17 PM Planning is still allowed...... ("thinking about the future" From: Kala Perkins (12:17 PM Yes, Jenna, she/ we Are that reality
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:17 PM worrying about vs worrying over!!!
From: Dehanna Rice (12:18 PM Yes, “MIND MAKES MATTER” Candace Pert Quote!
From: Me (12:18 PM Agreements --- Everything we know, everything we see, everything we do together depends on agreements. Language is a tool for making agreements, writing is a tool for recording agreements, money is a tool for enumerating and assigning value to our agreements. Agreements AM)ong people are the basis for our conscious reality. Without a process for agreed upon concepts, our reality would be awash with meaningless sensations. -- Stanley R. Pokras
From: Jenna Tontz (12:18 PM worrying all the time isn’t a bad thing, it’s a symptom. look further because that needs healing which will change behavior, etc. etc. Look how FEARFUL people are! Fight or flight, many fight, hence violence, etc.
From: Bruce Schuman (12:19 PM @Stan -- "consensus reality" -- is a process of agreement
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:19 PM we ARE the system we are trying to ‘rationally’ understand.
From: David Stoney (12:19 PM @Kathryn, I don’t know. For me the Divine is how I refer to the universally connected mystery of Being. It interpenetrates will everything… David Stoney
From: Bruce Schuman (12:20 PM "trans-scientific spirituality" -- say more about that
From: Jon May (12:20 PM I AM) trying to put Charles Eisenstein’s concept of humanity currently moving From: an “old story” (the story of Separation) to a “new story” (the story of Interring) in the context of this conversation. Can you comment on that?
From: Jenna Tontz (12:20 PM our binary thinking “either/or” “black/white” is a big obstacle in our mentslity
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:20 PM @David - as does consciousness. Is consciousness ‘life?”
From: Jon May (12:20 PM
- Story of Interring, that is
From: Kala Perkins (12:20 PM I love the Dong Line of the Australian Aboriginal tradition; that Great Spirit and the “ancestors” sang us and all into being and we sing the song lines as life and never are separate; we are the Great Spirit who sang and sings our own expression into being
From: Kala Perkins (12:20 PM song lines
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:21 PM The emergent story is how we are going to use theory to action.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:21 PM We are life celebrating!!1
From: Sharon Truax (12:21 PM great enthusiasm. blessings.
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:21 PM that was brilliant, thank you.
From: Suzanne Marie (12:21 PM love Bohm ...yes still life exploring the mystery. Thank you Tim and Peter
From: Jon May (12:21 PM sorry, typos galore (caused by autocorrect): “story of Interbeing”
From: Diane Skidmore (12:21 PM And learning to sing in harmony with each other - @Jon May (maybe) - that's what they're doing
From: Kala Perkins (12:22 PM Thank you all!! Brilliant dialogue-: From: Bruce Schuman (12:23 PM "the healing flows through the one"
From: Peter Merry (12:23 PM Thanks everyone. Sorry we didn’t manage to get to all the questions and comments but it was great to feel your engagement.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:24 PM @Peter @Tim _/\_
From: Peg Kuperman (12:24 PM LOVE LOVE LOVE the little Prince…my fav quote!!
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:24 PM Little prince YES!!!!!
From: Jenna Tontz (12:24 PM yes Sabijne
From: Me (12:24 PM . ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541 ========================== . We also have an email list for Chat People to interact without being on at the sAM)e time. Write to be added to the list: -- stan@communitymagic.org ========================== . ..oOo..
From: Bruce Schuman (12:24 PM The little prince is on the cover of my "origin of concepts" textbook From: harvard u....
From: Sharon Truax (12:24 PM yes! thank you
From: Sarita Patel (12:24 PM I have an entertainment studio and we have a Healing circle to constantly heal the teAM)s. healers need healers and the success grows when people are healed. 💕
From: Kala Perkins (12:25 PM Hurray to the Little Price and his teacher The Rose🌹
From: Diane Skidmore (12:25 PM Thank you both xxx (and Sabinije) xxx
From: Jenna Tontz (12:25 PM I love the engagement!! ubiquity U is rad
From: Sarita Patel (12:25 PM thank you all! always so inspiring!
From: Suzanne Marie (12:25 PM beautiful Sabine!
From: Jenna Tontz (12:26 PM that would be great Jim!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:26 PM @Jim - nice!
From: Jenna Tontz (12:26 PM can you get Cynthia Bourgeault too?
From: Kala Perkins (12:26 PM Such a simple question Jim🥰What’s the true nature of the Universe; Nassim is wonderful!
From: Suzanne Marie (12:26 PM Yes, great to hear Nassim may be on.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:27 PM YAY Hunter!!!
From: Bruce Schuman (12:27 PM Hunter is a powerhouse....
