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  • Date: Tuesday September 22, 2020 (2020-09-22)

Text of the Zoom Chat from HR Day 100:


From: Liliane (11:01 AM) Happy Tuesday Everyone!

From: Sharon Truax (11:01 AM) good morning all! 100 and rising From: Seattle

From: Doreen Tanenbaum (11:03 AM) Good Morning From: the woods of Carolina!

From: Diane Skidmore (11:06 AM) Hello Everyone xxx Thank goodness Mother Nature is still winning. We've made very little changes to our economic and 'worldly' processes. So - the blessing remains. When are our governments going to listen? What can we do to (as Jim says) turn this into actions? I guess we are about to be inspired. Thank goodness for that. xxx

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From: Liliane (11:10 AM) Welcome back John!

From: Shannon McArthur (11:11 AM) Good morning. Alternatives are good. Widen our perspective…

From: Sharon Truax (11:11 AM) one heart beating, beyond time and space, Grace! thank you Jim.

From: Shannon McArthur (11:12 AM) I like your interval chatter, John! heart-beating now!

From: Diane Skidmore (11:13 AM) And - leaning in …………. :yes. Exciting!!!

From: Shannon McArthur (11:13 AM) slide?

From: Diane Skidmore (11:14 AM) In a min?

From: Kat Haber (11:14 AM) John Elkington: 70 boards, 4 companies, 20 books-Xponential problems COVID19 enviro/social/governance failures We do not see this diagrAM) SCREEN SHARING?

From: Diane Skidmore (11:14 AM) No - no slide. Richard?

From: Shannon McArthur (11:14 AM) Please share screen!! heart not beating…

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:15 AM) Slides??????

From: Jenna Tontz (11:15 AM) can we see the art?

From: Kat Haber (11:15 AM) @Shannon-very funny.

From: Shannon McArthur (11:15 AM)

From: Diane Skidmore (11:16 AM) Yaaaay. Thank you xxx

From: Kat Haber (11:18 AM) TY

From: Frederick Alexander (11:18 AM) wow. That cartoon is depressingly contemporary

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:19 AM) Even NASDQ cAM)e out last week on this.

From: MALINI Rajendran (11:19 AM) lovely to see you her kat. awesome transcription. Business must serve a purpose and then make a profit

From: Diane Skidmore (11:20 AM) And share the profit (or invest where appropriate From: Kat Haber (11:21 AM) (We are in relationship to each other. Indigenous know this. Take too much and the system fails. Be in balance and respect systems thrive. Meta, fractal,.) John Elkington: Responsibility, Resilience, Rengeneration only guaranteed with investments in regenerations (What are we leaving for our future generations? From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:21 AM) If they are talking about this it makes me feel that I’m behind the times. I’m used to being on the edge, not the center…

From: Diane Skidmore (11:22 AM) Times are changing @Kathryn - we're heading for the middle. (We're becoming centred?Weirdo becomes mainstreAM)?

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:23 AM) Surely what he’s talking about is a green swan?

From: MALINI Rajendran (11:23 AM) we do not need large corporations. Covid has show us that we need smaller organisations working in cooperation and coherence That will take care of unemployem, resource mobilisation.

From: Diane Skidmore (11:24 AM) @Malini - small farming too of course

From: MALINI Rajendran (11:24 AM) Solar? has at the best 16-20 percent efficiency rates. the EIA of the technology is not worth the time and effort.

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:25 AM) They didn’t think about the parts being recyclable???? WHAT? OMG

From: Diane Skidmore (11:25 AM) Maybe but - in the UK - 47% of electricity is wind or solar powered

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:25 AM) The Precautionary Principle has been around for decades.

From: Diane Skidmore (11:25 AM) The on earea we have progress!!

From: MALINI Rajendran (11:26 AM) yes Kathryn that is why EIA and lifecycle analysis of production process and products needs to be made law. will wal mart pull out of china?????

From: Kat Haber (11:26 AM) JE: move From: black swans to green swans, From: what we do not want to what we do? new breed of chief economists with broader perspective on this: 1. Outlier 2. Xtreme impact 3. Rationalized hindsight often misunderstand what has just happened setting ourselves up for next crisis, Green Swans are shifts in our systems/economies, EU: 1.8 trillion euros social inclusion, sustainability, climate action, level of AM)bition we need now to move in these directions, Xtraordinary fall in renewable energy costs (Powertrain for EV’s will reach parity in 2.5 years) some positive/some negative, windmill veins are not recyclable and solar panels, Xponential trajectories ACCIONA in Spain, 30 young fastback leaders beyond UNSDG’s addressing opportunities, Scottish EPA-old order coming to account around us, more and more crisis, threatening resilience/security…embrace regeneration agenda, CEO of WALMART committed yesterday to become a regenerative company John @Volans.com

From: Shannon McArthur (11:27 AM) Yay, Kat! Thank you!

From: Diane Skidmore (11:27 AM) Hopefully we can encourage solutions before the crisis does too much dAM)age. In other words - start the alternative instead of fighting the old.

From: MALINI Rajendran (11:27 AM) wonderful presentation thankyou.

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:28 AM) Thanks again Kat!!!

From: Diane Skidmore (11:28 AM) Wow Kat!! AM)azing!! Thank you too

From: Rachel Root (11:28 AM) Great visual exAM)ple Char!!

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:28 AM) @Malini - yes!

From: Kat Haber (11:28 AM) Char Love: Social entrepreneurs DUCKS look calm but paddling like crazy underneath, swans are beautiful and graceful gliding, much under the surface is frantically adapting/mitigating, Char studied art and thinks fo world in images: Jackson Pollack-WILD, massive, splattery

From: MALINI Rajendran (11:30 AM) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Pollock

From: Rachel Root (11:30 AM) Another great visual with Pollock’s painting. Jazz also all connecting and contributing to the major theme

From: Dehanna Rice (11:31 AM) Touché! Nature is always the teacher in all growth!

From: Shannon McArthur (11:32 AM) This has come through for me in a recent tarot reading… Yes, the Hidden Wisdom is turn together toward the rising Light.

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:33 AM) Biochemically she is right - we are wired to positive movement - if growth and not safety is desired.

From: MALINI Rajendran (11:33 AM) industry and businesses have been talking about bio-mimicary for over three decades now, yet how many cities have used the designs in city layouts and lighting systems, how many business use this in their product design and their production process.

From: Dehanna Rice (11:33 AM) The rising light within us is the guiding source!

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:33 AM) Right Malini! Resilient Values set….

From: Shannon McArthur (11:33 AM) YES, Dehanna!

From: Diane Skidmore (11:33 AM) Gosh. What a great vision. Thank you Char - aim for the sun and be warm. Fueled by possibility. Grow toward the sun and remember nature - 'be' with nature.

From: Yasmin Goodman (11:34 AM) Did anyone catch the Ted Talk speaker Char was referring??????

From: Rachel Root (11:35 AM) Multitasking

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:35 AM) I was one of the first, many years ago… I attended the first annual meeting….

From: Diane Skidmore (11:35 AM) And - a realisation - B Corps - the B stands for Benefits. And Brilliant!!

From: Kat Haber (11:35 AM) Char: chaotic, kinetic energy, Jackson Pollack painting: relationships, interdependencies, Spectra, maps, transport systems, frozen jazz, lying under a tree gazing up and seeing the sunshine From: below through the branches, can be chaotic, overwhelming, think about approach, calmly think through, look for natural inspiration, addressing complexity, HELIOTROPY: HELIO-sun + TROPY turn toward, plants growing in the direction of the sun, flowers track the sun across the sky, stronger, taller, faster, warmth, positivity, DO NOT ONLY FOCUS ON THE PSOITIVES (Mr. t and COVID?) anchor in reality/urgency that is needed, we are all rooted into the soil, tED Talk Founder of B Corp -walk/chew gum simultaneous two things hopeful while grounded in urgency, https://www.ted.com/talks?sort=relevance&q=b+corps Real energy for doing good, possible in business to embrace growth & purpose,

From: MALINI Rajendran (11:35 AM) who decides who the stakeholders are. there is a lot of loopholes in the definition of what a company chooses to identify as stakeholders,

From: Dehanna Rice (11:35 AM) @Shannon Thx. what card did you pull in tarot? you must join our “Tarot in Motion”, MiriAM) Jacobs group online! It’s Emboding the Tarot!

From: Diane Skidmore (11:36 AM) B and C - Benefits and Community!!

From: Me (11:37 AM) @Kat --- Super Chat Person!!!! Thank you.

From: Shannon McArthur (11:37 AM) @Dehanna, come to the After HR Chat People Zoom Room & we’ll talk!

From: Yasmin Goodman (11:37 AM) Thanks tons, Kat!!! I appreciate the info. My brain processes at a slower speed then Char's!!!!

From: Diane Skidmore (11:37 AM) Wow!! Fantastic - B Corps in UK - mandatory!!

From: Julian Wong (11:37 AM) the elephant in the room is the inherent scarcity of money (by design), so the profit motive necessarily means less money for others and that there will be winners and losers.

From: Kat Haber (11:37 AM) Char: community collectives coming together, BOTH &, at biz level continuously improving while working at systems level and collective, vibrant climate collective, NETZERO by 2030, looking for 50% of B Crops to NETZERO by 2030 by COP26-Scotland, section 172 of company act in UK, imperative 21, NASDAQ, BLAB alone cannot do it, movement of movements, drive system change, coherence, systemic changes,

From: Shannon McArthur (11:38 AM) Bevy of Green Swans!!

From: Rachel Root (11:38 AM) LOVE the bevy of green swans!!

From: Diane Skidmore (11:38 AM) @Julian - so a bottom line of UBI so - we don't need money (or just for extras From: Kala Perkins (11:38 AM) sSuch an inspiring enthusiasm and vital visionary!!

From: Dehanna Rice (11:39 AM) @Shannon how do you access the chat?

From: Shannon McArthur (11:39 AM) I LOVE young energy!!

From: Jen Forti (11:39 AM) BOTH AND. Almost like the improvisational rule of YES AND

From: Me (11:39 AM) Art doesn't reflect the future, it CREATES the future.

From: Shannon McArthur (11:39 AM) @Dehanna: You can join the Zoom Meeting
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Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541

From: Diane Skidmore (11:39 AM) Science AND poetry. Kindness and Courage!!

From: Kat Haber (11:40 AM) Char: Bevy of green swans trajectory of collectives, addressing Gordon knots, obstacles/accelerants to BOTH &-David Attenborough-climate change we can not be radical enough, keep on challenging, intergenerational teAM)s, mobilize teAM)s, stretch our imaginations what might be different? guided by the science inspired and moved by poetry, “ COURAGE: two things stand like stone, kindness and another’s trouble…”

From: Jenna Tontz (11:40 AM) wonderful!!

From: Yasmin Goodman (11:40 AM) Beautiful!!!!!! thank you Char!

From: MALINI Rajendran (11:40 AM) radical enough - to make work From: home mandatory to reduce the vehicular pollution., Make digital education delivery so that every one irrespective of class or country has access to quality education.

From: Dehanna Rice (11:40 AM) Beautiful Char Love! What enthusiasm ❤️

From: Jen Forti (11:40 AM) Char, your energy is infectious. Thank you!

From: Julian Wong (11:40 AM) @Diane, I think the response is some combination of currency re-design, and building an informal/gift economy that frees itself From: reliance on fiat currency

From: Shannon McArthur (11:40 AM) Yes, @Malini!!!

From: Diane Skidmore (11:41 AM) @Malini - so - no more 5 day week. Life is NOT about working and getting a job. At the moment - 'jobs' sounds so important!! Sooooo rubbish!!!

From: Julian Wong (11:42 AM) @Diane - UBI helps too, perhaps funded by a meaningful wealth tax on the 1%

From: Kat Haber (11:42 AM) JE: Crisis of democracy-sustainability is a bridge between the two, Founder of Natura to Guiherme Leal JE wished he was again running for president of Brazil, 71 involved in challenges to face building a better world (AM)AZON IS ON FIRE RIGHT NOW) not sure Natura is a Green Swan not their style, day by day promoting system change future is open.

From: Diane Skidmore (11:43 AM) @Julian - Absolutely agree - I thought no-one had invented the gift economy yet so - yes!! Brill solution/way forward @Julian - gifting for the 1% xxx

From: Shannon McArthur (11:44 AM) @Diane - gifting FROM: the 1%xxx

From: Diane Skidmore (11:44 AM) (Loads of them are happy to help - they DO understand the need for change! From: Shannon McArthur (11:45 AM) more of that please!

From: Me (11:45 AM) About the Crisis of DEMOCRACY:
The book that reveals the most important environmental and legal blockages to democracy is Ben G. Price's "How Wealth Rules the World"

From: Diane Skidmore (11:45 AM) @Shanno - yes FROM: no FOR!!! Oooops - again xxx

From: Shannon McArthur (11:45 AM) hahaha!! the way forward is full of pitfalls!

From: Diane Skidmore (11:46 AM) Just have to learn how to stand up again, eh xxx Phew!!!

From: Julian Wong (11:46 AM) realistically, it is hard to imagine any meaningful wealth redistribution that the 1% might agree to without violence or bloodshed, so I suspect building an informal and gift economy is going to be all the more important

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:47 AM) Alternative currencies maybe more realistic. i.e. SEEDS

From: Shannon McArthur (11:47 AM) Dear Julian, may you be Wrong, and Diane’s gift-tax be easy and smoothly done

From: Diane Skidmore (11:48 AM) @Julian - I picture loads of he 1% being happy to share. Realistically I have to imagine it! I do get criticised and called crazy but - that's OK xxx

From: Kat Haber (11:48 AM) GL: Natura is a multination Brazilian cosmetics company From: dreAM)s, origin no capital/bright solutions/tech, Luis founder felt cosmetics could promote well being one with own body/self/society/community/whole with a lipstick/fragrances to promote connection, to fight the manipulation of women in relation to their bodies, born with perception we could do differently wellbeing for many more, (HOW MUCH DO WOMEN SPEND ON MAKEUP ANNUALLY?) continuous effort striving to survive Luis Abra in a small shop began the new business in the firs decade, GL founded two other companies in next decade formed Natura Group, impressed with the power of representatives in entrepreneurship possibilities to promote change, consultants built the brand, spread over Brazil based on shared values, passions, impressive, inside each of us, 90’s when 20 years old, 5 small companies merged through a deep reflection what is the company’s purpose now becoming adults at 20, go deep in defining deepest beliefs, purpose in the future,

From: Julian Wong (11:49 AM) Happy to be wrong! But all this is to say that I personally find it hard to reconcile the notion of associating profit with people and planet...its a variation of the "Green Growth" myth.

From: MALINI Rajendran (11:49 AM) what is the current contribution of Natura for dealing with the fires that are consuming the AM)azon

From: Diane Skidmore (11:49 AM) This guy - born sAM)e year as me and "When we were children...." Well, some of us still are and - thank goodness for that too

From: Diane Skidmore (11:50 AM) And @Julian - just read you 'hard to reconcile......' that's why B Corps are good - the deal is that they plough profits back into places where needed (I think@Julian - where are you? Which country? (It may affect your views From: Diane Skidmore (11:52 AM) We ARE connected anyway so - change IS happening. Cultural change - cultural sharing xxx

From: Kat Haber (11:53 AM) GL: consciousness: promote wellbeing well, life is a chain of relationships, everything is interdependent, nothing stand alone, pandemic shows how we are connected, ALL OF US (WE BLEONG TO EACH OTHER.) company is a change agent, influencing and influenced by the whole, longevity connected with its purpose/capacity to deliver contributions to society and sustainable development, eternal process of complexification, never arrived, always arriving, sustainability: improving step by step by doing, little then about sustainability more doubts than certainties, triple bottom line of people, planet, profit in 94 by JE, 98 everything is connectives connect different actors, through reflection reinforced the belief that we need to coprochange established institute (?) AM)ong Brazilian biz, what might be done to protect biodiversity in AM)azon, started relationship with rainforest indigenous tribes, still not yet a roadmap, but wanted to invest to know how to relate to local communities-indigenous, river people to build

From: Me (11:53 AM) Mr Leal mentioned Theory U... Otto Scharmer has a more readable than earlier versions in his book "The Essentials of Theory U"

From: MALINI Rajendran (11:54 AM) would have liked to hear about the concrete initiatives and progrAM)s they undertook in empowering and uplifting and training local and indigenous communities.The production did lead to some form of monoculture of some plants. what did they actually do for the preservation of those hectares of rainforest.

From: Diane Skidmore (11:55 AM) Good question Malini

From: MALINI Rajendran (11:55 AM) are the native producers their shareholders.

From: Shannon McArthur (11:56 AM) listening to the people in place is important but they see their problems - not the solutions. Perhaps that’s how monoculture has been perpetuated. And continued burning of Brazil /the AM)azon.

From: MALINI Rajendran (11:56 AM) I would like to know if they are engaging in contract farming.

From: Diane Skidmore (11:56 AM) ".....the planet as a whole" he said - so hopefully yes, native producers are included in the gAM)e.

From: Julian Wong (11:57 AM) @Diane - California, but grew up in East Asia : From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:57 AM) Sounds a bit like the Body Shop...

From: Shannon McArthur (11:57 AM) “the planet as a whole” is seen From: many perspectives, and no one in the circle around Her can see all.

From: Diane Skidmore (11:57 AM) One of the biggest and first solutions - stop destroying the AM)azon!!

From: Shannon McArthur (11:58 AM) Yes, Kathryn!

From: Kat Haber (11:59 AM) GL: producing high quality products to clients, factory, ECOS line, now connected to 5.1 thousand fAM)ilies and 1.8 million hectares of forest, what’s new to promote change? RIO+20 in 2012 B-LAB, asked are we Natura able to be certified, IPO 2004-not sure about shareholders/size/public reaction committed to them and stakeholders/planet/people in general as a whole, went through certification, opened assessment process of 115 indicators, led to sustainability that was shared for a roadmap to one forward for improving steadily, promote systemic change not enough one bCORP certified, way to say possible to not have an excuse From: not doing the right thing, B TEAM) committed to sAM)e global compact, 45 years old 5 years ago when decided to Xpand internationally, willingness to promote change, not circumstripted to Latin AM)erican continent, bring together other brands to Expand culture to various geographies, 2015 Australian company ASUP then BODY SHOPT founded by ANITA Roderick, brought AVON to the table now 100

From: Diane Skidmore (11:59 AM) @Julian - interesting combination. Would like to share a theory - every thought you think is a seed - imagine better resolution!!

From: Shannon McArthur (11:59 AM) happy for your success.

From: Diane Skidmore (11:59 AM) @Julian : From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:00 PM I share Malini’s concern about size. I’d love to it be more collaborative

From: Diane Skidmore (12:00 PM Sound like good commitments xx

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:00 PM so what is the environmental impact of transporting a product produced in brazil to the other part of the world . products distribution systems must be measured against the fossil fuel consumed in packaging and distribution.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:00 PM I guess I may be naïve hahaha

From: Shannon McArthur (12:01 PM stop the d*** fires. Please. There is FAR more to be done than create more shAM)poo. Not to say I don’t enjoy a good one. But I’d rather have flat hair and the AM)AZON

From: Dehanna Rice (12:01 PM All Wonderful contributions to our Planet & ALL her inhabitants 🌎🙏❤️

From: Kat Haber (12:01 PM GL: 100 countries, 3000 stores, 100 million consumers, in the midst of pandemic, COMMITMENT TO LIFE-Fight climate crisis, PROTECT THE AM)AZON, protect humankind, living wages, circularity, packaging by 2030, enter investments in regenerative solutions many scientific targets, reinforcing commitments to next decade in 6th decade, pandemic reinforced everything is interdependent to find disruptive solutions to better future, LOVE/PASSION moves Natura.

From: Me (12:01 PM Did I hear him talk about the packaging industry? Packaging is at the center of the environmental problem.

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:01 PM Shifting Avon would be good!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:02 PM so this a new type of business as usual.

From: Leo Jacoby (12:02 PM SLIDE: Rising/Humanity The Rise of the Green Swans

'3Rs' of Tomorrow's Capitalism

Responsibility (1960s- ) • Civil rights, 20th century- • Earth Day 1970 • Limits to Growth 1972 • Brundtland Commission 1987 • Eco-efficiency, 1992 • ESG, early 2000s SV2011 • Impact investment, 2000- • > FAANGS, tax. wealth issues

Resilience (2000- ) • Recessions, depressions, Y2K • 9/11, 2001 • Hurricane Katrinar 2005 • Droughts, fires, migrations • COVID-19, 2020- • PUMA's EP&L, Circularity

Regeneration (2020- ) • ThAM)es clean-up, 1960s- • Urban regeneration • Montreal protocol, 1987/9 • Marine reserves • Loess Plateau • Eden Project • Soil Carbon Cowboys • Biomimicry

From: Liliane (12:03 PM @Leo, thank you!

From: Leo Jacoby (12:03 PM SLIDE: Humanity Rising/ The Rise of the Green Swans Shareholder Value > System Value

Shareholder Value Financial returns all that matters: companies privatize gains and externalize losses, (Business independent of Environment and Society > Shared Value Business and financial performance still come first, Integration is still limited, with negative Impacts set against "good works" elsewhere. (Business interests slightly intersect with Envoironment and Society) > System Value Business no way hinders and ideally contributes to society's progress toward future-fitness. (Business nested in Society nested in Environment From: Shannon McArthur (12:03 PM DIFFERENT work!!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:04 PM I wonder if they have heard of no Poo day. ( shAM)poo From: Shannon McArthur (12:04 PM Thank you Frederick.

From: Jenna Tontz (12:04 PM yeah!💚

From: Diane Skidmore (12:04 PM Can you repeat the haiku? At the end maybe we can ask? It was good xx

From: Shannon McArthur (12:05 PM i thought so… last line - the ducks duck?

From: Liliane (12:05 PM the ducks paddle

From: Shannon McArthur (12:05 PM they better duck!!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:06 PM sorry if my comments sound cynical. But have spent a lot of time in EIA and ISO14000 training and auditing.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:06 PM No problem with making money - it's what you do with it that counts!!

From: Kat Haber (12:07 PM TY @Leo! Rick Alexander: Shareholder Commons, corporate lawyer, move markets, no green swans are going to save us, in much trouble each one of us working together, businesses are not going to fix this for us, its for each of us (EACH PERSONAL CHOICE-FLYING< EATING<CLOTHING) Swans fly overhead all the ducks waiddling, B Lab work platform for companies to become responsible, corporate governance lawyer, US based telling directors/companies work on behalf of shareholders to optimize return on investments, B Corp drafted statutes, in US, for responsible companies for 4 years new form of corp, 38 states in US, BC, Canada, South AM)erica, Italy, all co’s in UK have a stakeholder stance, directors to companies must consider stakeholders benefit (WHAT ABOUT OIL & GAS COMPANIES? From: Diane Skidmore (12:09 PM All profit needs to be redirected!! Making money is FUN!! It's the hoarding that's a crime against humanity!! Toilet rolls or money - all the sAM)e.

From: Shannon McArthur (12:09 PM Yes, @Diane!!

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:09 PM Nice - Diane

From: Diane Skidmore (12:10 PM Simple, eh xxx

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:10 PM Like to know how guardrails mesh with Donut Economics

From: Diane Skidmore (12:10 PM (Brain works sometimes hahaha From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:10 PM @kathryn - great question re guardrails and DE

From: Leo Jacoby (12:11 PM SLIDE: Guardrails to Protect the Commons Business models that deplete common resources and replicate dangerous inequality must be taken off the table. Universal owners have the incentive and ability to work together with companies to establish comprehensive and universal sustainability guardrails to protect the commons. Guardrails become ' 'tickets to the gAM)e" that all companies must follow as a condition of market participation and shareholder trust.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:11 PM Vaccs need to be free - to everyone!!!

From: Kat Haber (12:11 PM RA: No structure for shareholders, global equity markets publicly listed make $4 Trillion/year much of money is in retirement , endowments, institutions, mutual funds shareholder commons, use power of shareholders for companies easier to become bCORPS. (AS YOU SOW INVEST YOUR VALUES TOOL!!!) DO well by doing good, treat employees/enviro better…but sometimes companies must choose between profits and doing good, need to remove the bad options off the table, Universal diversified owners need incentive to make it happen BLACKROCK for ExAM)ple-if one company is making loads of monyey by promoting anti Jax propaganda than less likely other swill prosper, owner of entire market we do not benefit From: bad actors

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:11 PM @Leo Thanks!!

From: Leo Jacoby (12:12 PM SLIDE: Companies Are Not Positioned to Factor True Costs into Decisions. The current focus on improving sustainability performance relies on company-level decisions. Markets create pressure to improve financial return at individual companies. The resulting resource allocation does not reflect full costs to society and the environment.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:12 PM Some things (like vaccines) it's immoral to make money From: them! And morals need to be more valuable and important than the law!!

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:13 PM Jane Jacobs ideas about value systems give some guidance about how various industries should be managed.

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:14 PM @Diane - that is why what you say is correct.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:14 PM @Kathryn - yes!!

From: Leo Jacoby (12:14 PM SLIDE: Universal Owners Absorb Costs That Companies Extemalize. 80% of equity markets are owned by institutional investors. Beneficiaries are citizens around the world who hold diversified portfolios. These citizens bear social and environmental costs through their portfolios and lived experience.

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:15 PM Medicine should NOT be for profit - it distorts the intent i.e. health

From: Diane Skidmore (12:15 PM (Jane Jacobs - got a book hahaha From: Leo Jacoby (12:15 PM SLIDE: Beneficiaries will prosper only if we protect our environment and society From: the true cost of unsustainable business practices.

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:15 PM i wonder if we need half the products that are manufactured and we are convinced by advertising that we need and must have them?

From: Shannon McArthur (12:16 PM @Malini - yes

From: Diane Skidmore (12:16 PM @Kathryn and yes - agree re medicine and profit - no match We need very little - low maintenance is Brill!!

From: Shannon McArthur (12:16 PM how can we (the people) say yes/no to products they offer - BEFORE they are created

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:17 PM why is a lot of what is being talked about not made part of company law and accounting protocols.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:17 PM Well...…. too late for that @Shannon but - if we stop buying it- they'll soon understand. (Not soon enough maybe but - we can spread the word!!) (I do hahaha From: Kat Haber (12:17 PM FA: companies can not be innovative here without outside help, when markets work companies innovate, markets do not always work, CEO’s stock options motivate them to also be stakeholder oriented, how to measure profit vs social good, enviro good, when not known what competitors are doing, better set range of permitsables-wage/carbon/compensation/wages out of the hands of the board-MORE COMPLEX BOARD DECISIONS, portfolios suffer when one company Xternalizes costs enviro systems/inequality grows/…think holistically ability thru governance rights to do something, first job to preserve enviro/social/wage systems, government 170 are imperfect, multinationals move to most favorable treatment, managers are making as much profit as possible-corrupting government, USA hard to regulate dark money, important for shareholders to do this work, how can we each contribute? Work within our org on these issues, 401K’s in our retirements-more responsible, own an index fund in a 401K account Majority Action BLackRock voted

From: Shannon McArthur (12:18 PM Thank you Frederick for being aware of the environment you are coming into and adjusting your presentation based on it /us. Awareness is SO important.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:18 PM Like the man is saying - contact the company!!

From: Leo Jacoby (12:18 PM SLIDE: Govemment Action Is Not Protecting the Commons Regulation is being arbitraged in jurisdictional competition for revenue and jobs. Technology is moving at a pace that is difficult for regulation to match. Sustainability issues are polarizing, especially in a charged political atmosphere.

From: Kat Haber (12:18 PM FA; BLACKROCK says one thing and votes/does other things harmful to enviro systems, capitalism and markets can work in a way that does not maximize corporate profits

From: Diane Skidmore (12:18 PM Thank you too - well adapted (to us From: Shannon McArthur (12:19 PM Otto!! Hello!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:20 PM HOW CAN A GREEN SWAN RATING BE INCORPORATED INTO CRISIL RATING OF COMPANIES.

From: H CynAM)on (12:21 PM Yes great question re: rating of companies

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:22 PM @Malini yes and the guardrails. I’d like to hear much more about them. We will need more time with Otto!

From: Frederick Alexander (12:23 PM Swans Fly overhead/Above furious quiet/All the ducks paddling

From: Shannon McArthur (12:23 PM thank you!

From: Diane Skidmore (12:24 PM Wonderful @FA thank you xxx

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:24 PM @Otto - YES then the structures become apparent.

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:25 PM well the pandemic has done just this. so what are we learning From: the pandemic?

From: Julian Wong (12:25 PM Part of the transition will require a shift in the way we thinking about corporate ownership. Here's a terrific resource: https://purpose-economy.org/content/uploads/purposebooklet_en.pdf

From: Liliane (12:25 PM @Jim, we need at least 10 minutes over please to cover Otto's very important points.

From: Shannon McArthur (12:26 PM We are the System - we are falling apart. HOW do we put the pieces back together?

From: Kat Haber (12:26 PM JE in tor’s Otto Scharmer: Sloan School of MGT at MIT, Theory U, what does it mean to lean and lead in the emergent future, rather than own story, want to add to the story the a few lenses, Link social/sustainability with systems thinking, HOW DO WE CONNECT OT THE EMERGING FUTURE? old order coming apart, current reality future will be different From: the past, know less about emergent future, why does it take to connect with and actualize future possibilities, THEORY U awareness based methodology, journey inner deeper knowing/outer to edges of system, root issues below the water line: Structures/Thought/Source (deepest dimension dreAM)s/urpose/energy/attention/intention/self/identity) 1. can not understand a system unless you change it 2. can not change a system unless you transform consciousness include all four levels (social/structure/thought/source) 3. see system sense itself (insufficient) Theory U unlocks intelligence of heart/collective 4. We need to be the system, be the future we want to see. (Ghandi From: Diane Skidmore (12:26 PM Gosh @Otto, thank you - sensing is imperative - feel equals the heart!!

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:27 PM This is at the heart of climate change

From: Diane Skidmore (12:27 PM @Shanon. Back to basics. Love each other, ourselves and the planet as a whole. Very move and every thought counts - and makes a difference!!!

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:27 PM @Kathryn - bingo encore!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:27 PM Looking at the INTENT of what the system is about is the first step of acknowledging the need for design change in the system when it does not deliver the INTENT of good of the whole.

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:28 PM Humans are intrinsic to nature…

From: Leo Jacoby (12:28 PM The success of an intervention depends on the interior condition of the intervener. -- Bill O'Brien

From: Kat Haber (12:28 PM JE: move From: one level way of looking at the system, inner/outer to look at systems foreseeing what is around and how I contribute to what iI AM) part of the system, From: out there to bending the beAM) of observation to observing self-reflectionmindfulness (OBJECTIVE I) leadership shift is From: debate to dialogue, making system see itself, sense and see itself, “The success of an intervention depends on the interior condition of the intervener.” -Bill O’Brien

From: Rachel Root (12:29 PM Yes!!!

From: Shannon McArthur (12:29 PM curiosity, compassion & courage… yes

From: Diane Skidmore (12:29 PM @Malini - that's the conflict! The difference between what we think (we, the people) and what the system itself is doing - going for profit

From: Rachel Root (12:29 PM Curiosity Compassion and Courage Yes

From: Diane Skidmore (12:29 PM this is AM)AZING!!!

From: Dehanna Rice (12:29 PM It’s all about the Field of Energy we all enter into for our Business to grow From: within us!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:30 PM not only AM)plification but using it as a tool of manipulation of the public.

From: Dehanna Rice (12:30 PM It is Denial & no Ownership of our collective consciousness

From: Diane Skidmore (12:31 PM Gosh, blind, stupid and ignorant - instead of compassionate, conscious and curious

From: Shannon McArthur (12:31 PM Thank you sososososo much, Otto. Clarity of thought will help us open our eyes.

From: Dehanna Rice (12:32 PM We need to turn the darkness of the trauma back towards the light of our Universal WILL🔥

From: Shannon McArthur (12:32 PM the Youth brought this yesterday!

From: Diane Skidmore (12:32 PM Especially - seeing others as they could be - hope for the future!!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:33 PM Compassion fatigue.

From: Shannon McArthur (12:33 PM “I don’t have a daughter” when cop was asked how would you feel if your daughter was treated this way?

From: Diane Skidmore (12:33 PM Ignoring it!!

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:34 PM Frozen will is what needs to shift to get us through this!!

From: Diane Skidmore (12:34 PM What it takes to solve it all is - LOVE!!!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:34 PM To act you have to move into unconditional every thing. whats in it for me. what if its me tomorrow. that thinking has to go.

From: Jenna Tontz (12:34 PM Frozen will can’t shift until the trauma that caused the frozen view and frozen heart are healed

From: Kat Haber (12:34 PM STOP DOWNLOADING PROJECTING HABITUAL PATTERNS OF THOUGHT. Activate open mind/ curiosity, heart.compassion, will/courage. THOUGHT right now the precise opposite is happening right now, Bolsonaro/Johnson?trump -AM)plification ignorance, hate, fear, instead we are projecting ourselves, rather than empathizing and sensing we are digging into our own bubbles holding on to the past and disconnecting From: future possibilities instead engaging in manipulation, abuse, destruction, self-destruction, when we double click, talking to this attention and intention must be realigned and transformed. direct/structural/attentional violence, address these patterns of violence BLIND SPOTS_Frozen mind not seeing what is happening, BLM denial-not seeing, De-sensing-not feeling From: othering to more directly felt connection, apathy not acting frozen will depression/destruction Cultivate open mind/heart/will sociaty wide new structure for learning, new democratic infrastructure direct/distributed.dialogic, new economic infrastructur

From: Diane Skidmore (12:35 PM There is no me - there is only us/it (everything - we are all part of one energy!! From: MALINI Rajendran (12:35 PM when the majority stays silent for too long they will become the silenced majority. Baba AM)te.

From: Dehanna Rice (12:35 PM @Diane RIGHT ON!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:36 PM we need to react at the first act of injustice not wait for it to become a big movement to be pushed into action.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:37 PM For leadership to learn - even for airy fairy me - slightly cynical I'll change it!! Fast!!

From: Jenna Tontz (12:37 PM Do we have replays to these presentations?

From: Liliane (12:37 PM @Jenna, yes

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:37 PM Well the pandemic was lesson 1. lets see whats going to unfold after September of November 2020.

From: Shannon McArthur (12:38 PM @Jenna - it’s posted on Universe and Chat-People (at least! From: Liliane (12:38 PM and Youtube

From: Kala Perkins (12:38 PM All replays are on the Ubiverse

From: Shannon McArthur (12:38 PM Ubiverse.

From: Jenna Tontz (12:38 PM Thx Kala

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:38 PM Drat - I’d like to see the transformational learning system slide again. this would should be a part of our discussions on educational shifts.

From: Shannon McArthur (12:38 PM love the tree - that was part of my tarot reading!!!

From: Diane Skidmore (12:38 PM This is very special - we may even be able to do a clip of it!!

From: Shannon McArthur (12:39 PM not the usual way

From: Jen Forti (12:39 PM @Jenna, if you subscribe to the Universe channel on Youtube you can access ALL the archived presentations

  • Ubiverse

From: Jenna Tontz (12:39 PM Oh wonderful Jen F thank you

From: Kat Haber (12:39 PM OS: From: ego to eco, refrAM)ing economy go beyond commodity fiction based way of frAM)ing our economy of ego system awareness to eco system awareness including governance, only theory if we do not develop leading learning, today all focused on head central structures of individual learning, need transformational eco-system learning systems to make the shifts now needed, enabling need tow additional things, capacitating changemaker s to generate From: toxic to cocreative, deeper leadership structure school for transformation, democratizing , beginning of decade of transformation need this literacy, enabling conditions needed

From: Shannon McArthur (12:39 PM outstanding Otto

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:39 PM dare I say that Integral City is aimed at delivering these depths of transformational learning for I/We/It/Its? Master code of Care - for self, others, place planet

From: Liliane (12:39 PM Thank you Otto!

From: Me (12:39 PM What a line-up of Rock Stars we have today!

From: Jen Forti (12:39 PM WOW OTTO!!

From: Kat Haber (12:39 PM Me, too!

From: Jenna Tontz (12:39 PM I want to go that school! : From: Jen Forti (12:39 PM AM)AZING!! THE SCHOOL OF TRANSFORMATION <3

From: Dehanna Rice (12:39 PM The perfect antidote is “Caught not Taught” it’s been forming & shaping for eons for this transformational time to implement! IT TAKES MEDITATION! Going into “Neutral” slow down to recieve that Information ℹ️

From: Diane Skidmore (12:40 PM Fantastic Otto!! Thank you xxx

From: Jenna Tontz (12:40 PM Stanley total rockstars

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:40 PM Such an AM)azing panel - thanks to all

From: Rachel Root (12:40 PM Awesome thank you!!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:40 PM Transformation literacy yes! that needs to be in the education curriculum.

From: Barbro Esbjörnsdotter (12:40 PM wow!

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:40 PM Ubiuniversity is a big part of this I think

From: Shannon McArthur (12:40 PM too late!

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:40 PM Do it John!

From: Kat Haber (12:40 PM 100th day! Way to RISE HUMANITY!

From: Shannon McArthur (12:40 PM YAY us!!

From: Kala Perkins (12:40 PM Ubiquity University IS a University of Transformation...

From: Kat Haber (12:40 PM What is the missing scaffolding to take these ideas down to the ground?

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From: Diane Skidmore (12:41 PM @Jim - we're already blowing time - great?? Is that OK with you? Celebration as it's soooo good?

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:41 PM I’d love to go deeper with Otto - maybe another time?

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:42 PM Thanks to John Montgomery, Jim Garrison and this inspiring panel

From: Diane Skidmore (12:42 PM Yes!! Otto again please - he can encourage us!! We can learn stuff!!

From: Suzanne Marie (12:42 PM Yes, and would love to see an entire session devoted to what Otto is presenting. RefrAM)ing our economy, and learning transformational eco-system Thank you so much and will definitely review this rich conversation.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:43 PM Massive thank to everyone for today!! We ALL appreciate it!!

From: Jen Forti (12:43 PM I’m literally crying right now for all your BRILLIANCE AND WISDOM

From: Jenna Tontz (12:43 PM This was a biggie, way to go on the 100th day! Going to rewatch.

From: Kat Haber (12:43 PM JM: joy/happiness/inspired by John’s book, AM)azing stories, powerful changemakers all, great gratitudes to you!

From: MALINI Rajendran (12:43 PM wonder does otto have a transformation literacy curriculum.

From: Shannon McArthur (12:43 PM no apologies necessary. the brilliance outshines any personally seen shortcomings

From: Diane Sue (12:43 PM An absolutely AM)azing session!!! Thank you all for your contributions to making the world a better place!

From: Jenna Tontz (12:43 PM Shifting From: ego to eco.

From: Kat Haber (12:44 PM JG: make energetic progress toward the good, but world is dominated by fear/hate/ignorance. Current reality (PLEASE LET”S NOT WE ARE LIVING IN IT-YUCK, RUSSIA REALLY! From: Kala Perkins (12:45 PM Jim, please leave us with some hope before November!!

From: Monica Affleck (12:45 PM What a great panel - I AM) a post secondary educator - whole person learning is close to my heart and what I AM) building into my teaching practice. I feel inspired.

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:45 PM @Monica - YES

From: Suzanne Marie (12:46 PM So true, Jim… excellent question.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:47 PM Hopefully the more of us focus on the good stuff, the more Mother Nature will transmit those message. In the battle between good and evil, good will win in the end. Maybe we could have Otto again - to encourage us!! :) From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:48 PM Leadership is SO important - fear-based or caring.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:48 PM Exactly - massive disruption is happening. Good!! But we need to share the better ways! Educate!!

From: Liliane (12:48 PM Yes, trauma

From: Kala Perkins (12:48 PM Yes! I love how deeply and astutely Otto orbits the core of transformative reality

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:48 PM Hence the need to be VERY conscious of the chosen value system

From: Leo Jacoby (12:49 PM Dark money and social media

From: Jen Forti (12:49 PM SOCIAL DILEMA! Probably the most important documentary of our time WATCH IT AND SHARE IT

From: Diane Skidmore (12:50 PM The Social Dilemma - heard about it last night!! the ideas are spreading. We need to big up the stronger, healthier ideas. Phew!! Like the bee story!!

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:50 PM The bees have been showing us how for 100million years - biomimicry has much to teach us

From: Frederick Alexander (12:50 PM @otto explain the Polyani connection?

From: Liliane (12:50 PM @Marilyn, <3

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:51 PM That is why Russia is committed to defeating democracy.

From: Kat Haber (12:51 PM OS: Holding contradiction, invitation for a conversation, 1. definition of green swan-systemic shift described, presencing/absencing-courage/curiosoty-/compassion or ignorance/hate/fear one tense for seeing black/green swan dilemma misunderstandings interior conditions of collectives, opening up on face of disruption, trumpsim-universal/global-massive disruption and lack of capacity-massive educational failure, with o capacity then life throws into self protection freeze traumatic response, leverage is here! what AM)plified last 4 year-dark money, social media, SOCIAL DILEMMA on net flicks, See age of surveillance capitalism documentary, allowed the commodification land grab by tech companies, reverse, democracy at the core of this battle, inspiring: SAVE THE BEES IN BAVARIA, referendum voted for sustainability based ag, not too much, not real choices for the collective goods we are consuming, majority wants one thing, through dark moneyed deciders do other things, build deeper capacities, tells us the phenome

From: Diane Skidmore (12:51 PM Faith!!!

From: Me (12:51 PM https://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/shoshana-zuboff-on-surveillance-capitalism/

From: Shannon McArthur (12:52 PM our choices matter - inform and arise!

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:52 PM WE HAVE to do it in concert

From: Diane Skidmore (12:52 PM Yes, even dangerous but - we have to stick together and - have faith. And LOVE!!!

From: Kat Haber (12:52 PM OS:mirror of collective, AM)plifier and mirror of our collective decisions, current moment important for a new beginning, respond to this, JE: yes Xact capture, next 10-15 years most Xiting and challenging and dangerous years of working career, (How will the wisdom of these elders become infused in youth and YoungPros?) political back to our civilization

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:52 PM @John @Otto @Jim +++ I admire your courage ... thanks so much for speaking truth

From: Shannon McArthur (12:53 PM this is the FUN PART!!!

From: Hilary Van Welter (12:53 PM I LOVE John Elkington!!

From: Dehanna Rice (12:53 PM We Are Able NOW Universally to Change our relationship to Business! Thank You!

From: Monica Affleck (12:53 PM So well said @Otto and @John

From: Diane Skidmore (12:53 PM @John Focus on the good. We CAN change the world!! We must!!

From: Kala Perkins (12:54 PM Awesome panel and conversation, thank you!!

From: Diane Skidmore (12:54 PM Every thought is a seed xxx

From: Kat Haber (12:54 PM Stunning conversation! GL: face this moment with political leadership, bring together actors, personal/collective needs, (WE ARE TAKING TOO MUCH! From: Liliane (12:54 PM What a way to celebrate Day 100!!!!

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:54 PM Yes - if business would just stand up there may be hope

From: Shannon McArthur (12:54 PM Lovely Char!!

From: Kat Haber (12:55 PM Char: Collectives/systems intergenerational YES!

From: Liliane (12:55 PM Yes, Char!

From: Hilary Van Welter (12:55 PM Having been at the change business for over 40 years I resonate with John’s words so much with the idea we are entering the most dangerous but the most exciting of my career!

From: Diane Skidmore (12:55 PM @Char.. Yes!!!

From: Dehanna Rice (12:55 PM Right On Char!🌎❤️

From: Kala Perkins (12:55 PM Today’s panel is a perfect core for a university course!

From: Kat Haber (12:55 PM Char: Stretch what is possible who are our unlikely allies?

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:55 PM @Hilary - Yes - I agree

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:55 PM @Char - love your energy and optimism - where do you get your radical hope?

From: Jenna Tontz (12:55 PM I really feel that healing people From: childhood is step 1 in the transformation cycle.

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:55 PM @Ghilherme - thanks for modelling so much with Natura

From: Jenna Tontz (12:56 PM Yay Ubiquity! B Corp!

From: Kat Haber (12:56 PM Brilliant sparks flying -thank you all!

From: Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson (12:56 PM In the book, Evolving The Human Race GAM)e: A Spiritual and Soul-Centered Perspective, discussed is what I call “the mirror effect.”

From: Diane Skidmore (12:56 PM Thank you ALL!!

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:56 PM I’d love to here these folks actually talk together

From: Diane Skidmore (12:56 PM @Jen - yes too

From: Kat Haber (12:57 PM Yes, conversation is where ideas more embracing other minded to evolve our minds.

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:57 PM @Frederick - thanks for new learning re the guardrails and shareholder commons

From: Kate Hansen Hansen (12:57 PM Thank you all!

From: Shannon McArthur (12:57 PM My final word - the structure of the One we are is pictured in this drawing, downloaded in ceremony and tarot cards pulled. I welcome you to take a look, if you are curious: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C2S1oM_9UQBNBFUIHTi-3PT3PTSAetJKEh6a3cEW8nU/edit?usp=sharing

From: Jenna Tontz (12:58 PM Yes Jim I really want to hear about this too thank you

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:58 PM @Jim - Yes!

From: Kate Hansen Hansen (12:58 PM Yes!

From: Hilary Van Welter (12:59 PM @Shannon - beautiful!

From: Kat Haber (12:59 PM JG: interface between light/shadow of this moment, creating more light, understanding psychohistorical interface of light/dark ensure frAM)ework that we are running out of time, all know where we want humanity to be? We are all in this question now. pausing…COUNTINGDOWN, the clock is ticking

From: Suzanne Marie (12:59 PM True .. Trumpism is a mirror. Thank you, Jim…would love that.

From: Diane Skidmore (12:59 PM Thank you Jim! and yes - we'd love you back Otto. Very welcome.

From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:59 PM Thanks @JohnM for curating such a profoundly relevant panel :- From: AM)Y A BLUMENSHINE (1:00 PM @Kat Thank you so much for your notes!

From: Diane Skidmore (1:00 PM And char - you were lovely too hahaha - AM)azing in fact. Gosh - sooo much happens here xxx thank you Universe!!!

From: Jen Forti (1:00 PM Blessings to all <3

From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (1:00 PM SO many blessing to everyone who makes this possible!!!!

From: Liliane (1:00 PM Thank you All!!!!