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11:03:58 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Sparkling blessings and loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc peoples now known as Kamloops, BC, Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:04:25 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Thank you Shannon
11:07:05 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Welcome Rabbi Cat, so good to have your consciousness with us today
11:07:11 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Today’s difficult presentation is Day 1005 of Humanity Rising
11:07:54 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Pleasure to be here! Lovely to see Rabbi Cat again so soon - she was here on Day 1005 - see all the days she's been with us here: ::https://othernetworks.org/Cat_Zavis::
11:08:35 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
This is about Christian Nationalism which causes America to support Israel. This is about Christian Nationalism or it could also relate to Islamic Nationalism using Koranic references. ::https://www.facebook.com/504635278/videos/876031034421393::. His full sermon: ::https://youtu.be/Blph_2RSBno?feature=shared::
11:11:44 From Jack Strasburg to Everyone:
To much better understand the US involvement in the middle East I strongly suggest folks go to YouTube and check out General Wesley Clark's interview with Amy Goodman (Democracy Now) or his speech '7 wars in 5 years
11:12:12 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Thanks Jim for this deep dive into anti-Jewish history - both complex and complicated. QUESTION: lease address the role of Zionism in this world
11:20:37 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
"Some are guilty; all are responsible" ~ Rabbi Cat Zavis
11:20:54 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
THANK YOU for your excellent clear synopsis Rabbi Cat!
11:21:07 From Rabbi Cat Zavis to Everyone:
That quote is from Abraham Joshua Heschel not me!!
11:21:25 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks, Cat. Good to know
11:24:22 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:
Michael… how do you spell the name of your ‘teacher’ you just mentioned- Gerard???
11:24:52 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Great point Michael! Scapegoating and off-loading our human shadow, rather than resolving our own problems! 🌍
11:25:24 From Chantal Spicq to Everyone:
René Girard
11:25:49 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Cells, imaginal cells in the humanity politic...
11:26:29 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:
Thank you Chantal
11:26:48 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
LOVE Gabor Mate! And his brilliant wisdom!💚
11:26:52 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Thank you for mentioning Gabor Mate's recent comments, Jim.
11:27:14 From Paul Greco to Everyone:
I feel that hatred and violence are getting a huge boost ! Our friends Jeremy & George were just threatened !
11:28:11 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Tragic! Paul, so profoundly sad and sorry to hear this.
11:28:44 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Gabor Maté have been on Humanity Rising: ::https://othernetworks.org/Gabor_Mate::
11:28:58 From Chloe Goodchild to Host and Panelists:
Media is playing a vast part in all this escalation of violent conflict etc
11:29:28 From Paul Greco to Everyone:
It’s terrible !
11:29:36 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Courageous, central question! thank you for focusing on this Cat!
11:33:03 From Paul Greco to Everyone:
People should watch, they need to see the Truth !
11:33:29 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
TY JACK. 🙂
11:34:36 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
"Get along to protect yourselves!" THIS INSIGHT IS CRITICAL TO UNDERSTANDING! "Walking to our own slaughter" These dynamics are central issues for understanding this complex historical relationship to IMPERIAL POWERS! THANK YOU RABBI CAT!
11:38:38 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
whoever hurts us we will hurt them….
how to escape the tit-for-tat reacting and choose your way of responding, not reacting
11:39:00 From Rabbi Cat Zavis to Host and Panelists:
Can you put the link to Gabor Mate’s interview Jim is referring to in the chat pls? Thx
11:39:38 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
The slave don’t want freedom, they want power.(revenge).~ Marilyn Manson
What we need:
A paradigm shift-Build a new model that makes the old one obsolete.
Buckminster Fuller
11:41:38 From Paul Greco to Host and Panelists:
Catastrophic Disclosure, may be the only thing to wake people up from their Horrible Destructive behavior !
11:42:13 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Creating multi-intergenerational trauma is a primary tool of all Imperialism. Gabor Mate's truth telling is profoundly important: "Deep sadism is past the point of no return." Hateful, violence abounding...
11:43:20 From Douglas Jennette to Everyone:
Thank you all for saying what must be said if we are to survive, physically and spiritually, this madness.
11:45:12 From Jim Enwright to Host and Panelists:
Jim, can I get a source for your assertion that there was no need to drop the bomb on Japan. Thanx
11:45:25 From Anna Barker to Host and Panelists:
Can you please, Jim, share a link to what you just watched/referred to that Gabor just did?
11:45:35 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Yes, DISCLOSURE in every walk of life.
11:46:07 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
How do WE come back from the brink of this madness? Excellent focused question: How do millions of traumatized people heal? PLEASE EXPLAIN THE ROOTS OF CHRISTIAN ZIONISM!
11:48:15 From Stephanie Schwab to Everyone:
How horrific...terrifying. What can we do about it? How can we stop it?
11:50:09 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Hurt people hurt people circular tragedy.
11:50:30 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
BRING HARMONY TO LIFE, BE a PeaceMaker for your own wellbeing AND OTHERS. When prompted, pause in your day, and at least three times repeat while breathing IN: Peace IN Everything, and breathing OUT: Everything AS Peace. START NOW!
It is an INSide job. It is a ProBiotic that anyone can take to cure humanity’s inhumanity to others. It also brings Super Concentration opening one to inspiration and enthusiasm. To be fully effective, we get to do it periodically through the day. It also leads to clearer thinking and stress reduction. Here’s a first step to get INside Peace.
Let’s start practicing this Psycho-somatic-emotional-spiritual practice ~ ThePeaceMaker Meditation so that we BreedLOVE. Here’s a 8 minute video describing PeaceMaker Meditation. ::https://youtu.be/8pbxX8o2WmA?si=uLAWqrODttwA1_rg:: Peace IN Everything, Everything AS Peace will reverberate throughout your day… This cue-word/mantra is used in your HOME language.
11:50:53 From Niteen (York) to Everyone:
From what I have heard from talks and interviews with historian many of them Jewish there was no tit-for-tat. The grabbing of lands from Palestinians really started when Jews from Europe were allowed to flood Palestine and supported in many land grab operations by the new state of Israel and by the Europeans (mainly Brits). This created much animosity between Arabs and Zionists. Regardless of who started it it needs mature wise statesmen to stop it. unfortunately we do not have the quality of politicians nor the quantity of voting public to demand and support the few politicians who value peace
11:50:58 From Tami Hay Vegan Grandmother to Host and Panelists:
As long as there are slaughterhouse and animal sacrifice, we will be have war
11:51:00 From Paul Greco to Host and Panelists:
I hate animal torture !
11:51:05 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:
The Sacrificial Lamb
11:52:21 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Lynne McTaggart: the power of intention = healing modality
11:53:07 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
It's cultural PTSD. Requires the commitment of all!
11:53:08 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Niteen, we have THESE statespeople. If more people listened to these learned people...
11:53:40 From Dawn Mazzone to Everyone:
Brilliant response you would have done Rabbi Cat! Pause and Safety!
11:53:58 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Thank you, Rabbi Cat!
11:54:28 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
CAT - we elect you. GAINING THE POWER NOW.
11:54:33 From Zoom user to Everyone:
The FORCE of Peace is Humanity matured.
11:54:48 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Yes, we need collective healing modalities! YES, calling peace keeping forces on all borders, rescue all hostages, call in human rights experts, etc. SMART ACTIONS RABBI CAT! YOU ARE CHANNELING THE DEEP FEMININE LEADERSHIP!!! THANK YOU!!! 🌍💚😇🙏
11:54:49 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
give everyone an x-box and head set to do virtual war games during the day - go home to a warm bed, family meal in evening - meantime those who do not do the virtual war gaming rebuild houses, plant trees, grow croops again, re-connect with earth...
11:54:54 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:
Yes!!!! We need a movement
11:55:01 From Paul Greco to Host and Panelists:
Cat give your dog a hug !
11:57:05 From Robert Hayes to Everyone:
::https://nonviolentpeaceforce.org/::
11:57:11 From Joanie Ciardelli to Host and Panelists:
Nvp is extraordinary!! Thanx for including them!
11:57:12 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
::https://nonviolentpeaceforce.org/::
11:57:19 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks, Robert!!
11:57:21 From Robert Hayes to Everyone:
::https://nonviolentpeaceforce.org/ucp-manual/::
11:57:56 From Robert Hayes to Everyone:
::https://nonviolentpeaceforce.org/ucp-manual/::
11:58:25 From Robert Hayes to Everyone:
::https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_Peaceforce::
11:58:40 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Thank you Robert !
12:00:28 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
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PeaceMakers Circles/Network are for people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world and daring enough to do it!
12:01:50 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
PEACEMAKERS have a Salute! Whenever you say goodbye, when you leave your friends or a meeting, send more Love into the world with The Peace Salute, ::https://youtu.be/iLqxBwH9Plk?si=PCQIWALBoADIhng2::, ZOOM PEACE into the world. Young people love it! You can too. The video includes the origins of its creation. Our youth also love it.
12:03:38 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:04:52 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
"When the world pushes you to your knees, you’re in the perfect position to pray.
12:04:57 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Riviting TRUTH TELLING! Superb clarity about the true human choice. Outstanding point about Zionism and Judism. THANK YOU Rabbi Cat for your passionate clear truth telling!💚🙏🌍
12:05:06 From Paul Hillery to Host and Panelists:
CAT and the rest. Remember the Rwandan genocide.The UN Observers needed the Security Council to approve its transition into a Peacekeeping Mission. But while the blah blah blah went on close to a million were slaughtered. And YET I still think the best fulcrum is the United Nations - empower it and support it. Petition your politicians. There is no other mainstay right now. It’s been defunded and ignored for far too long.
12:05:58 From Michael Kennedy to Everyone:
I'm afraid for all of US that it's too late for US (Human Be-ings) and that we're seeing the "magic wisdom and power" of the Universe, in the form of our Mother Earth, justly saving US from the horrible arrogance of our SELF/SELVES
12:06:04 From Dawn Mazzone to Everyone:
Brilliant, Rabbi Cat in the way you honored others in the services you offered.
12:06:43 From Natalie Tobert to Everyone:
Thank you Rabbi Cat
12:06:55 From Leila Yazigi-Jeantelot to Everyone:
Love, compassion, healing and light to all
12:06:55 From Dawn Mazzone to Everyone:
Distinctions in language reveal truth.
12:07:00 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Critical distinctions! THANK YOU RABBI CAT! SO TRUE! SUPERB WISDOM! 🙏💚🙏
12:08:16 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Any person should be at home wherever they are…not unique to Jews.
12:08:28 From Niteen (York) to Everyone:
Shannon, we have very few statesman and there is not enough support to get them into position of power and keep them there. the clamour of violence for power without pity drowns out the voices of peace and compassion. I see this happening in India with their far right PM. I am a Hindu-Buddhist-Spiritualist and see all this as the age of disintegration but I also see shoots of awakening.
12:10:06 From Natalie Tobert to Everyone:
I told the rabbi, the most anti-semitism I experienced, was within the walls of the synagogue, by Jewish members, when I stood up.
12:10:13 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
Yes, an extraordinary conversation. Thank you all so much for this education.
12:11:50 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
It is 9:11 PT
12:11:55 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:
Thank you so much Rabbi Cat, you have given me hope. All my life I have been 100% for the Jewish people, believing the story in the Old Testament. But some 30 years this changed when I heard Settler in Jerusalem say that the Palestians were not people but DOGS.
12:12:33 From Paul Hillery to Host and Panelists:
You are right, JIM, but as long as the US is on the Security Council it would never happen - a 2 State Solution. No African state in the Security Council, for instance.
12:12:47 From Niteen (York) to Everyone:
I wholeheartedly agree with Jim Garrison that there ought to have been just one state that remains secular.
12:12:56 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Irish people made peace, HOW did they achieve that ?
12:13:06 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
::https://www.nonviolenceinternational.net/::
12:13:57 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Nelleke, I like what you say... I'd love to hear from the Irish.
12:14:38 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
We can be modern day Johnny Appleseed’s. Collect seeds of any kind, fruits, trees, flowers, whatever is a local plant. Then when traveling in a countryside that could use some… distribute them, whether planting, or simply sowing or casting them into nature. When one casts them about the countryside, they either grow, or feed the soil, or feed an animal ~ Win-Win-Win
See the short movie, The Man Who Planted Trees, from the story by Jean Giono. ::https://youtu.be/PYlsIZXCQa4?si=Y1IT0gan_tg3eKGt::
We can do the same with smiles, inspiring and caring words, and helpful deeds and ideas… even a coin or two… Share anything that helps people improve their happiness and state in life for the grand upliftment of humanity.
"Don’t judge each day by the harvest you reap but by the seeds that you plant." ~ Robert Louis Stevenson
12:15:02 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
… we are all human!
12:15:27 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Michael Tillinger’s genius in expression: One Small Town, Everyone can become a proud global member of the ONE SMALL TOWN initiative. You don't have
to live in an active town. ::https://www.onesmalltown.org/::
12:15:29 From Leila Yazigi-Jeantelot to Everyone:
🙏
12:15:32 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
And listen to the women!
12:15:37 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Piece together peace
12:16:11 From Sirikit Pfeilsticker to Everyone:
From the Bottom of my heart thank you Rabbi Cat. May we rise as a humanity Oneness, Love, Safety and Joy everywhere in the World. Thank you also Jim and Michael! Greetings from Sirikit from Germany
12:16:14 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
NELLEKE, The Irish had to fight for years, but finally reached a peace largely because of my relative, who was a doctor, tending both sides of the Revolution, but later became Prime Minister. Both sides trusted him.
12:16:21 From Chloe Goodchild to Host and Panelists:
‘out beyond ideas of wrong doing and right doing, there is a field, I’ll meet you there’ (Rumi/CBarks)
12:16:25 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
This is what a paradigm shift looks like when we are in the midst of it. I came for this as did many here on the planet now.
Breakdowns before breakthroughs!
12:16:44 From Marc Silverman to Host and Panelists:
How to save chat?
12:16:55 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
There will be many solutions.
12:17:09 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Paul, interesting background you have!
12:17:24 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
“They” is us.
12:17:41 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
iraeli-palestinian Confederation, an over-arching governing body over 2 individual states
12:17:48 From Niteen (York) to Everyone:
Rabbi Cat your words have the weight of wisdom. may there be more recognition and support for your point of view.
12:17:52 From Marc Silverman to Everyone:
how to save chat?
12:17:54 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
"the growing up of Israel" interesting phrase, @Michael.
12:18:08 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
Don't Forget the Sikhs
12:18:16 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Thank you Paul, your relative proved peace was possible - inspired Presence ...
12:18:37 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Marc, the chat will be loaded later today into otherNetworks here: ::https://othernetworks.org/HR!Day1005::
12:19:03 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:
I hear a lot about the historical Trauma of the Jews , but very little about the Trauma of the Palestinians continually for more than 70 years.
12:19:24 From Rita Marsh to Host and Panelists:
When will we as human beings live into the release of "othering".
12:19:34 From Chloe Goodchild to Everyone:
‘out beyond ideas of wrong doing and right doing there is a field, I’ll meet you there’ (Rumi/Coleman Barks)
12:19:41 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:
What is the reference to ‘jonathan’ ?
12:19:53 From Marc Silverman to Everyone:
Thanks!
12:20:03 From Dawn Mazzone to Everyone:
"Healing and Holding process"
12:20:28 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Where is the World Economic Forum in all of this atrocity? Who is benefiting from this carnage? Who are the "hidden parties"??? US patronage MUST be removed! It's time for Humanity Rising to present 1000 Years of Hindu Colonial Trauma. We MUST understand Western Imperialism before we can eradicate it forever! YES, Palestinian voices must be first, front and center! Healing and holding.....Please let's carefully examine these central questions!!!
12:21:08 From Niteen (York) to Everyone:
There was often friction between Hindus and Muslims but the instances of cooperation were frequent and kept India strong. it was Aurangzeb the fanatical Mughal who sowed the seed of discord. Just as Modi is doing now just as fanatically and ignorantly.
12:21:50 From Dawn Mazzone to Everyone:
Grief Circles are active regarding climate change, they could be for healing Trauma.
12:22:37 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Fine, thoughtful points Rabbi Cat! YES to healing circles and rising up against Imperialistic Power!!!
12:22:57 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Rabbi Cat YOU are fabulous!!
12:22:59 From Marc Silverman to Everyone:
The good news is that healing is possible
12:23:07 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
Good to see you here CHLOE GODCHILD. You stay a voice for peace and physiological Healing.
12:23:07 From Leila Yazigi-Jeantelot to Everyone:
Thank you for the speakers. Thank you Jim. A beautiful session 🙏 Love and Light to all sentient beings
12:23:38 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Yin Tui Na - hands-on therapy for traumatic injury
12:23:39 From Marc Silverman to Everyone:
Deep healing but Deep pain…
12:23:44 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Yes Jim I agree
12:23:58 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::
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12:24:01 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
AMMA Resonance Healing Foundation
12:24:08 From Marc Silverman to Everyone:
Thank you Jim, Cat Michael
12:24:12 From Lynn Brodlie to Everyone:
Heal thyself, heal others, heal the world and then May Peace Prevail on Earth
12:24:15 From Rita Marsh to Host and Panelists:
Thank you for this profound session of Humanity Rising. Rabbi Cat, Michael and Jim. Blessing to you all.
12:24:15 From Karen Raj to Host and Panelists:
Are replays available of these calls? If so, how to access? Thank you
12:24:22 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
Thank you
12:24:27 From Diane Sue to Everyone:
With gratitude for the depth of this discussion...and the honest look at our shadows.
12:24:30 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
afterchat link please
12:24:32 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Yes our healing is mandatory as a COLLECTIVE MORAL ISSUE! THANK YOU all for this profound, necessary, WISE discussion!!! 💚🌍🙏
12:24:39 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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12:24:40 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
…it’s the water we swim in so to distinguish it gives access to different choices.
Disclosure
12:24:42 From Dawn Mazzone to Everyone:
New worldview: "Wholeness' of every human and "Deeply" Human
12:24:47 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:
next time look forward to the healing pockets Michael
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