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- Date: Thursday July 30, 2020 (2020-07-30)
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From: Liliane Mavridara (11:04 AM) Happy Thursday Everyone!
From: Jane (11:05 AM) And to you Liliane! I sent you a message via Ubiverse....did you get it?
From: Tiffany Stone (11:05 AM) Blessings all 🌞🕊🌌🌝
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:06 AM) The very casual disregard for life the event showed was appalling! Such a profound disrespect for life - and From: a person who is charged wit protection, certainly showcased the dissentce in the police force.
From: Jane (11:07 AM) Hello Kathryn.Huge thanks once again for documenting all this wisdom.
From: Michelle Kidd (11:07 AM) YAAY. Poetry and Trauma 💓
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:07 AM) @Jane oxoxoxox
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:07 AM) @Jane, yes, will respond after session. Thank you.
From: Jane (11:08 AM) @Liliane...great! Thanks Tiffany, blessings to you.
From: Victoria Schwarz Schwarz (11:09 AM) Yes! Thank you, Kathryn, for being the Scribe. I, myself, have a problem listening and reading at the sAM)e time so your summaries area gift for us to review in addition to watching Ubiverse/YouTube
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:10 AM) Folks - it is KAT who is the very wonderful scribe.
From: Jane (11:11 AM) Thanks for the 'heads up' Kathryn.
From: Victoria Schwarz Schwarz (11:11 AM) WELCOMING as. spiritual practice. I welcomed thousands and it was a gift
From: Jane (11:11 AM) So thanks to Kat for scribing. Much appreciated.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:15 AM) AM)azing - Thank you Kim!!!!
From: Jane (11:15 AM) Oh My Kim Stunning. Thank You so much.
From: Michelle Kidd (11:15 AM) Awesome poetry, fantastically read Kim 💓
From: Janice Sealey (11:15 AM) So beautiful Kim, thank you.
From: Diane Sue (11:15 AM) Absolutely, beautiful, Kim! Thank you!!!!
From: Jane (11:15 AM) Yes Jim they are all so timely.
From: Kathleen Riley (11:15 AM) Thank you Kim, beautiful!
From: Kim Rosen (11:17 AM) Kindness by Naomi Shihab Nye; The Guest House by Rumi, translated by Coleman Barks; Music by JAM)i Sieber “Benediction” on the recording, “Unspoken” and also “Only Breath” which has spoken word by Kim
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:17 AM) not just words , Kim your rendition gives them a fully vibrant throbbing life.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:18 AM) @Mailini - Yes!!
From: Michelle Kidd (11:19 AM) In Covid whilst experiencing Lockdown I have taken the opportunity to do some "Deep inner work" therfore I now feel a Lighter, Brighter, more Compassionate, Understanding me."Blessings All Michelle 💓
From: Tiffany Stone (11:19 AM) @Kim your warmth and beauty of spirit are infused into your readings
From: Linda Stopp (11:19 AM) thank you lovely Michelle ❤️
From: Michelle Kidd (11:19 AM) 💓 Linda Yes, I've done a lot of Ancestral clearing work. Michelle
From: Me (11:25 AM) Consciousness Rising
From: CJ (11:25 AM) Can someone help me recall - Reactivity is? Response is?
From: Michelle Kidd (11:25 AM) Yes it's like we are all living with a load of trash bags in our Auric space. I have done a lot of work with Elizabeth Wood (Seer and Scientist) you can find some of her work on YouTube
From: Diane Sue (11:26 AM) react is action without feeling – response is a feeling-informed action - Thomas Hübl
From: CJ (11:27 AM) @Diane — thank you!!!
From: Rachel Root (11:27 AM) @Diane, thanks!!
From: Michelle Kidd (11:28 AM) Thank you Thomas 👍
From: Victoria Schwarz Schwarz (11:28 AM) “we need to melt the inner ice”
From: CJ (11:29 AM) @Victoria - your words brings tears to my eyes…. melt the inner ice
From: Jane (11:29 AM) Yes Jim, the relationship between the two events struck me as well.
From: Rachel Root (11:30 AM) We all tend to react
From: CJ (11:33 AM) @Thomas We often consume life and information all the time which limits our ability to digest
From: Jane (11:34 AM) Numbness and distraction have been with us for a long time.
From: Diane Skidmore (11:36 AM) …..and we ALL contain 'stuff' (trauma??) left From: past generations. It seems that the death of George Floyd was also a gift (apologies if that sounds flippant) but - it seems that we needed something totally traumatic to illustrate the issues that are embedded in our society - giving us the opportunity to exAM)ine, to recognise and to work on healing the dAM)age. A new system for the future and a healing of the past.
From: Tiffany Stone (11:36 AM) Yes, and some people still don’t have space in any definition
From: Diane Skidmore (11:36 AM) How to 'disarm' the wounds of the past xxx
From: Michelle Kidd (11:37 AM) Yes Jane, for me the numbness is gradually being eroded allowing me to feel it and Release what No Longer Serves me and Welcome Newness in my Emmotional life 💓
From: Diane Skidmore (11:38 AM) Absolutely - Covid AND George Floyd - moments of Awakening
From: Michelle Kidd (11:38 AM) Yes! Diane
From: Diane Skidmore (11:38 AM) enlightening - thank you Thomas
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:38 AM) If we truly feel then we would kill for food and kill trees very differently. I also think that part of trauma is self forgiveness - we always feel responsible…
From: Diane Skidmore (11:40 AM) We are Nature and We are the Environment - which is why we need to be working on Prevention rather than Cure (message to spread to leaders and people in positions of power as well as to street level peopleWhat humans are doing to the earth AND to each other!!
From: Jane (11:41 AM) Loss of Breath on all levels....
From: Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson (11:41 AM) As an African AM)erican on this platform, I have previously called attention to an article I wrote about healing our race-linked wounds. Here is that link again: https://www.stillharbor.org/anchormagazine/2015/5/18/healing-our-race-linked-wounds
From: Jane (11:42 AM) Thanks Dr. Carroy.
From: Michelle Kidd (11:42 AM) Nice Analogy Jim,. WE can't breathe and Nature can't breathe. Michelle
From: Jane (11:42 AM) We are One.
From: Liliane Mavridara (11:46 AM) I AM) an animated planet <3
From: Me (11:48 AM) @Cuf - Thank you for your Still Harbor.
From: Beth Brownfield (11:49 AM) I miss the note taking of Kat this morning, It so helps to capture the dialogue
From: Rachel Root (11:49 AM) Agree!!
From: Jane (11:50 AM) If the flow of information is tainted at any level, then trauma persists.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:51 AM) Thant’s why Rumi says ‘welcome'
From: Diane Skidmore (11:52 AM) We need to do something - together!! Actually, that's why we're here (HR) Together we can do it!! (We are one and I have faith From: Jane (11:53 AM) We are the remedy, starting on an individual level, beginning with walking through the trauma/shadow.
From: Jane (11:54 AM) @ Diane, yes then 'together'.
From: Me (11:56 AM) Coherence Rising!
From: Michelle Kidd (11:56 AM) I do wonder if people who's life is threatened (Starvation, storms etc) whether they experience trauma or are so busy Surviving that the trauma comes later
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:57 AM) @Stan YES! isn’t it great?
From: MALINI Rajendran (11:57 AM) @Stan. Coherence Rising. wow. universe speaks. have just linked into global coherence app.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (11:58 AM) Coherence is how emergence happens!
From: Diane Skidmore (11:58 AM) @Michelle - yes - we build walls of safety around ourselves so as to survive and deal with real life. Very often it's the first moment of relaxation when the trauma shows itself/is released/exposed. - and can be recognised and healed.
From: Nirmalan Dhas (11:58 AM) The engagement, liberation and transformation of trauma requires the de-linking of access to wages From: access to commodities…as we have just seen…as soon as the link is broken trauma surfaces…
From: Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson (11:59 AM) What I think is most interesting is the idea that what we think of as “negative emotions” are actually meant to lead us beyond themselves. I also think that we have forgotten that all emotions stem From: and lead back to the sAM)e source, which is Love. That is, the so-called “negative emotions” are communicating a sense of separation From: Love and a desire to flow back to it. This perhaps suggests the connection to the idea & experience of coherence.
From: Rachel Root (12:00 PM Chaos is creativity
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:00 PM https://www.heartmath.org/gci/global-coherence-app/ invite you to join the Divine Heart Meditation Group.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:00 PM @Cuf - Yes!
From: Jane (12:01 PM Is it traumatic if the events of the culture you are living in is 'normal' for you in that culture,yet when you are comparing From: your own perspective/culture it is traumatic?
From: Michelle Kidd (12:01 PM Yes Diane, I've found it so. The sAM)e with stress I often don't realise that I AM) stressed until I relax, our body and mind just 'gets us through "💓. Michelle Can I please ask a question about the possible relationship between mask wearing and suppression and TRAUMA. Thank you. Michelle
From: Rachel Root (12:03 PM Yes, and we need systems to help channel this trauma
From: Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson (12:04 PM Growing up in the segregated South as a Black person, one of the profound lessons that you learn is that you not the projections of others.
From: CJ (12:04 PM We need to know our inner hell in order to know how to live as a whole human being Where we are numb, we feel the forces of chaos because there the light of our consciousness is turned off. In no man’s land, it is where it will hunt us
From: Diane Skidmore (12:05 PM Funny - this all fits in with conversations I'm having today - here. We do have to go through 'stuff' to be able to recognise and deal with it all. And sometimes it's hard to trace the source. Very lucky to have like-minded people so we can discuss stuff.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:05 PM @Cuf - astounding insight!
From: Michelle Kidd (12:05 PM Yes like Kim said in the poem if we Welcome uncomfortable Emmotions in we can 'change the story'
From: Linda Stopp (12:05 PM integration process take our supposed weaknesses and integrate them into our whole being
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:06 PM @michelle, the mask you wear is not you. It's the convenience cloak given to you by social traditions, by upbringing, by religion From: the outside , but also From: inside guilt , shAM)e , anger, pain ,EGO finds it easy to adopt the mask.
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:07 PM Yes LIFE wants LIFE - how often do we say no or distort that yearning?
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:07 PM But that does not define who you are or who you were meant to be.
From: Linda Stopp (12:07 PM so beautiful 🥰 life wants to LIVE
From: Diane Skidmore (12:07 PM @Michelle - totally (and the poem too) - welcome all emotions and exAM)ine them so we change the story xxx
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:07 PM That, to me, is the core of ethics
From: Diane Skidmore (12:08 PM "Hurt and healed; hurt and healed" this is how we evolve maybe
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:08 PM unconditional love makes everything go away.
From: Michelle Kidd (12:08 PM I AM) Very Grateful to my body. I Know that if my body was a Computer I would be in a Lot of Trouble! I thank my bodies ability to heal 💓
From: Jane (12:09 PM No It is all good...all is a teacher.
From: Me (12:10 PM @Cuf - is the word "are" supposed to be in the phrase "are not projections" ? that would help me understand your meaning.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:10 PM 'Challenges that make us wiser' - brilliant. No such things as mistakes - only opportunities to learn!!
From: Paul Coleman (12:11 PM If you cannot accept fear then you cannot overcome it.
From: Jane (12:11 PM Yes thanks Stanley...I have the sAM)e question?
From: Michelle Kidd (12:11 PM 💓 Diane
From: Diane Skidmore (12:11 PM @Michelle You too 💓
From: Diane Skidmore (12:12 PM Oh gosh - 'Healthy Parenting' - soooo important!!!
From: Michelle Kidd (12:13 PM I think Consciousn
From: Diane Skidmore (12:14 PM Along with Healthy Communicating - by communicating we not only share but - we see ourselves (and hopefully learn From: Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson (12:14 PM It is most interesting that in African AM)erican culture, we often say to one another “I feel you”
From: Diane Skidmore (12:15 PM Communication - I feel you. You feel me. Gosh. compassion. Unity. All of us together as - we are all one!!
From: Kathryn Alexander, MA (12:15 PM @Cuf One of the strengths of the African AM)erican community is the very developed ability for relationships - that is the major weakness of the ‘white/Western’ society. I say this as white.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:16 PM An ocean of us all. And every drop feels every drop. Again. We are the ocean. We are the desert - each drop of water. Each grain of sand.
From: Jane (12:16 PM When your inner core is healthy, you are stronger when relating to/with others.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:16 PM Waves xxx
From: Michelle Kidd (12:16 PM I believe Conscious listening is Very important. When I stopped listening in order to respond and learned to Actually listen without any mind distractions From: me then I Really Learned anew. Michelle
From: Diane Skidmore (12:17 PM @Michelle Well done!!!
From: Michelle Kidd (12:17 PM 💓 Diane
From: Victoria Schwarz Schwarz (12:18 PM “crisis is a time to give” ...to be kind
From: Diane Skidmore (12:18 PM Hahaha - ban those words - 'blAM)e' and 'fault' - they lead us down a distractive road
From: CJ (12:19 PM OMG! When I started listening to this session, I was just expecting something about trauma. But I really didn’t expect that it lead to a deeper understanding of emotions and feeling. We have been conditioned to numb ourselves and thus enabled so many repetitive traumas around society!.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:19 PM And each person takes responsibility whenever they can - which is always!!
From: CJ (12:19 PM I feel you
From: Rachel Root (12:19 PM Turning reactiveness into responsiveness!! LOVE it!
From: Diane Skidmore (12:20 PM Joy!! "The most healthy thing to do"
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:20 PM Thank you Thomas, was lovely!
From: Diane Sue (12:21 PM Thomas Hübl- we need more self-regulation and to notice the fragmentation between physical and emotional – healthy parenting helps with co-regulation to support the child’s inner regulation – I feel you and I feel me – then comes “I feel you feeling me” - when I relate to people I can feel you – I can put myself in your shoes – then take this to a bigger level – the ability to feel a group coherence – the more coherent Jim is in our brain, the greater the collective coherence – van transition into collective healing – everything that supports a sense of generosity and kindness is putting energy back into the system – we can bring people together and empower their resources and creativity in solving local issues – not stand back and blAM)e but see what we can do to make it better – the individual, relational work and the relational work on the bigger level – what is the information I need to provide? A citizen is the cell within the collective body – what information can I provide to empower local leadership t
From: Jane (12:21 PM @Michelle...Listening is crucial-inner listening, listening to others. listening to Nature.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:21 PM @CJ Yes and - all you need is LOVE - every word is great and surprising and wonderful !! Thank you HR!!!
From: Marilyn HAM)ilton (12:21 PM Thank you Thomas for calling us to give in this crisis
From: Andres Jimenez (12:21 PM Thank you Thomas. Thank you all for your enlightening comments
From: Michelle Kidd (12:21 PM Thank you Thomas
From: Diane Sue (12:21 PM Thomas Hübl – I see this as the higher organization principle of the system – the divine creating power – we call that coherence function – love – when there is a strong impact or trauma – trauma splits our energy – that creates a mirror world – integrated history is present for us – all of the structures of consciousness – the unintegrated history is passed – if we look into our nervous systems – we live in a dual world, of separation, overshadowed by past information – we feel symptoms related to the current moment unrelated to the current moment – then we project on someone else – don’t recognize that it is what we are feeling personally – in the fragmented zone – we are going into the underworld – get to know our inner health to be come full human beings– we feel numb and feel the forces of chaos because the light of our consciousness had bee turned off – it is going to haunt us if we don’t address it – addressing it makes us more whole – trauma of society is refrAM)ing strength and weakness – in the weakn
From: MALINI Rajendran (12:22 PM unconditional love does not wait for a crisis to give, to share and to just be there .
From: Diane Sue (12:22 PM Thomas Hübl - Relationship between ecological trauma and human trauma – trauma seems to be with us 24/7 – we are all a shareholder of the collective unconscious – we have both personal trauma and collective trauma – the story of “me” being separate is not true –yet trauma experiences induce separation and isolation – connection between trauma and inflAM)mation – a reaction to trauma – we need to collectively see a doctor – has an internal effect and also external effect – we are heating up the planet – we are not on the planet – we are the planet – the earth is heating itself up through us – once we feel our children, we care for our children – if we ask what should I do to help the planet? The question is – do I feel nature? That’s the starting point – when there is a healthy flow of information in the body we understand – the sAM)e is true for the trauma in our cultural body – the information flow thorough all of us – without coherence, the flow is disrupted – every new version of leadership is a downgrade o
From: Jane (12:22 PM Listening with kindness and humility. listening with love.
From: Diane Skidmore (12:22 PM Listen to whoever crosses your path as - there is a reason for everything - and a place to give - even if just an ear!!!
From: Paul Coleman (12:23 PM The gift of giving is the gift of receiving. The gift of giving and receiving is the gift of love. All these energise and create a positive feedback loop ever expanding, ever empowering.
From: Janice Sealey (12:23 PM What a profound and valuable time together today. Thank you Thomas, Jim, and Kim.
From: Jane (12:23 PM boot cAM)p for the inner journey as well.
From: Victoria Schwarz Schwarz (12:23 PM Yes, indeed, such a AM)azing combination of Heart and Mind. it comes through like a flow of colorful wind that gives and heals. Thank you, Thomas and Jim!
From: Paul Coleman (12:24 PM I want to hear more :) por favor
From: Michelle Kidd (12:25 PM Yes Jim HR is a Magnificent achievement
From: Cheryl Ritenbaugh (12:25 PM Yes, more. This is completely on target! <3!
From: Jane (12:25 PM Service for the good of all.
From: Yasmina Groenstein (12:25 PM Counterbalance polarity forces!
From: Simone de Wijn (12:26 PM there is enough for all
From: unify unify (12:26 PM
- radical generosity
From: Simone de Wijn (12:26 PM the commons
From: Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson (12:26 PM As human beings, we basically communicate verbally and non-verbally. It is interesting that the “mask” then can simply be viewed as a non-verbal way of saying to others, “I can about you.”
From: Kala Perkins (12:26 PM That is the paradigm of a living coherent system.
From: Jane (12:26 PM Nicely said Dr C.
From: Yasmina Groenstein (12:26 PM 🙏❤
From: Diane Skidmore (12:26 PM Gosh - Thomas talking about the smile on Jim's face and - the smile on Thomas's face as Jim talks!! What an AM)azing conversation!!!! Made me forget the comment I was gonna write hahaha JOY!!! LOVE!!! Thank you both xxxxx
From: Liliane Mavridara (12:27 PM Would love to complete my PhD....
From: Andres Jimenez (12:27 PM I AM) interested in the master’s degree with Thomas. Please let me know what I need to do. Thank you
From: Jane (12:27 PM @ Dr. C." I feel you".
From: Kathleen Riley (12:27 PM ❤🙏❤
From: Jane (12:27 PM Thanks so much Thomas.
From: Kurt Krueger (12:27 PM An awesomely effective PARENTING book is: Nurturing with Love and Wisdom, Disciplining with Peace and Respect by Diane Tillman.
From: Jude Asphar (12:27 PM an affirming lifeline, so needed—how blessed we are to be able to tap into— thank you all many times over ~
From: Lane Maser (12:29 PM @Kathryn Alexander - agreed with how we kill for food & trees. An obvious inner connection that has been commercially denied. This includes the rAM)pant plastics industry. Plastic is no longer being recycled despite bins being provided for the ILLUSION of recycling. Bad parenting of dishonesty at the business parental level.
From: Michelle Kidd (12:31 PM Thank you Kim. Thomas and Jim. Another Wonderful conversation 💓
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