Breakout Chat 162 Room 1

Humanity Rising Day 162 After Chat

• Date:
• Back to Day Page for HR!Day162 - Generate Ideas To Enable You To Use Tensions in Your City & Community To Best Mutually Serve You Both

Cities Rising Day 4 Breakout Room 1 - Thursday January 14, 2021

• Lillian M - Host
• Kurt Kreuger - ChatAction - Peace Lab
• Marilyn Hamilton - Co-Convener
• Annelies W NL - ChatPeople
• RuthAnn Lenapehoking - ChatPeople

Earth Magic Card:

Question to reflect on:

• “What is the sacred exchange that you long for in your city?
• “How does this move you to act”

Each of you will receive a different card from the Earth Magic Deck. (They have been pulled during this session.) Hilary will be sending your card to you.

If you are not able to screen share in the break out– you can show them the image from your mobile device and then read out the description. Your support person can put the questions in the chat

Allow people to sit with the card’s messaging to them (2 minutes) and then allow people to respond. Once the conversation begins – stop screen sharing so the focus is on the dialogue.

Chat from AfterChat Zoom from HR Day 162:

aka ChatPeople Chat

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13:15:55    From  LilianeM-Breakout Host : The question is

   ‚ÄúWhat is the sacred exchange that you long for in your city?

   ‚ÄúHow does this move you to act‚Äù

13:37:37   From  Kurt Krueger : In the mid 70‚Äôs we Met Findhorn founders‚Ķ great and sweet blessing. :)

13:42:34   From  Kurt Krueger : Sacred space. :)

13:46:42   From  annelies W NL : beautiful giving hospice‚Ķ

Biger Chat - Sent to Stan by Liliane Does this belong here???

12:40:03    From  Julie Wolf : HR Day 162 - Cities Week Day 4

12:40:30    From  Julie Wolf : Andres welcome!

12:40:48    From  Julie Wolf : Welcome Beith

12:41:01    From  Julie Wolf : Beth -great job!

12:42:35    From  Beth Sanders : Thanks Julie!!!

12:44:44    From  RuthAnn Lenapehoking : anyone see how Transition Town Movement dovetails . . . almost sounds like the presenters already implemented that template.... yes?

12:44:50    From  Kat Haber : IΓÇÖm grateful for the millions of conversations that are happening right now online! Nested, integrated, remapping, live vortexing!

12:45:03    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Welcome Jan! yay

12:45:44    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Welcome Charles!

12:46:31    From  Shannon McArthur : Yay Jan & Charles and all you beautiful people - we are building bridges between our nests !

12:47:15    From  Kat Haber : Yes, just as Joe Biden must confirm his administration, take actions for new executive decisions, deal with impeachment Senate trial, and unify a very divided (Lied to and willingly believed lies) national SIMULTANEOUSLY!

12:47:27    From  Shannon McArthur : art is SO important! focus the awareness & intention

12:47:37    From  RuthAnn Lenapehoking : anyone looking at trauma awareness and healing at both the nest and mega-city levels?

12:48:31    From  Kat Haber : yes, Shannon, Art, dreaming, Xpressing authentically, removing the fences!

12:48:37    From  Kurt Krueger : Ulf Sandstrom is a good source for dealing with traumasΓǪ HeΓÇÖs a wise guy from Stockholm. :)

12:48:48    From  Kat Haber : Fences from ourselves based on fears of what others might think/do?

12:49:12    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : metaphors that move you Andres. Music and dance. a movement. felt. must feel them.

Thank you Andres.

12:49:19    From  Shannon McArthur : Yes, RuthAnn, healing is part of the OurHeartGardens.com concept. Mental health especially.

12:49:26    From  LilianeM-Breakout Host : RuthAnn, I study with Thomas Hubl, all this is part of it.

12:49:33    From  RuthAnn Lenapehoking : is Ulf looking at city trauma?

12:49:57    From  Beth Sanders : You can buy Nest City through local book sellers. They can order it for you through a distributor called ΓÇ£IngramSparkΓÇ¥. (Can also order through Amazon, if thatΓÇÖs necessary.) Can also check out bethsanders.ca

12:49:59    From  Kat Haber : Yes, letΓÇÖs keep dancing!

12:50:23    From  Kat Haber : Playing in the sandbox together!

12:51:06    From  RuthAnn Lenapehoking : let's explore cultural contextualization and cultural appropriation

12:51:47    From  LilianeM-Breakout Host : It's a scary realization actually, all the more we must act/create different container for the little ones.

12:51:59    From  RuthAnn Lenapehoking : can we explore cultural contextualization and appropriation?

12:52:04    From  Shannon McArthur : Kat, thatΓÇÖs the symbolism  I use - we are the Child of Gods and weΓÇÖve made a mess of our sandbox - it is Our masterpiece, to restore our Great Mother

12:52:20    From  Marilyn Hamilton : In Taize at Findhorn we say there is no wrong notes - just variations

12:52:34    From  Shannon McArthur : gΓÇÖmornin

12:52:37    From  Shannon McArthur : Jen

12:53:02    From  Kat Haber : MIGRANTS ON THE MOVE FROM CLIMATE NOW, millions more to come, how do we treat THE OTHER? What is ours to do?

12:53:04    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Jen - did you bring a song or poem? (No pressure) just enthusiasm

12:53:18    From  Kurt Krueger : Ray Charles - For Mama "La MammaΓÇ¥. https://youtu.be/YfxsQJIxTZY

12:53:22    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : NO City!!!!!!!

12:53:58    From  Shannon McArthur : gardens of refuge in communities everywhere in a  network that weaves us together!

12:54:02    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : wheres Paddy?

12:54:08    From  MALINI Rajendran : instead of building a city of refuge why not remove the cause of creating refugees.

12:54:26    From  Shannon McArthur : Malini, people will always move.

12:54:37    From  Kat Haber : LOVE Assignment. Decent humans, Shifting to immediacy.

12:54:44    From  Karen B- breakout support : thank you.  you are speaking my heart

12:55:29    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : We need islands of relationship and thriving and healing - eco-villages or not - where anyone can gathr and be welcome and sheltered and fed and warmed.

12:55:34    From  MALINI Rajendran : Shannon there is a difference between people moving and people forced to move because of war/ occupation/ genocide or ethnic cleansing.

12:56:05    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Malini we still need thes eplaces of transition.

12:56:07    From  Shannon McArthur : Malini, climate refugees will  be increasing...

12:56:11    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : to give them water

12:56:11    From  RuthAnn Lenapehoking : it's on us to restore cities of refuge and protect them . . . they existed and were usurped . . .

12:56:17    From  Marilyn Hamilton : Perhaps we have to experiment with cities of refuge - like the outcomes from Burning Man now serves exactly those kinds of situtations

12:56:54    From  Shannon McArthur : our volunteers need places to give their time and energy - the care agencies are breaking with  the system that  supported them

12:57:10    From  MALINI Rajendran : Natural disasters cause physical displacement but they don't loose ownership of their place at least till the region can be restored to earlier conditions. But in war and ethnic cleansing they loose ownership too in most cases. Just talk to the families of the 500000 Kashmir Brahmins who were removed from their lands .

12:57:33    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : yes Marilyn - yes Beth - lots of migration - let the voices be heard and faces be seen

12:57:49    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : and welcomed

12:58:16    From  Kurt Krueger : Major application is PREVENTION of the need to migrate. Peace LAB is exploring so much of this.

12:58:18    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : People know there own needs - yes Charles?

12:58:26    From  Beth Sanders : I recommend reading Arrival City by Doug Saunders.

12:58:49    From  Kurt Krueger : Living Values brought to refugee camp in Thailand and reduced violence 90%

12:59:00    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Let the new ways be innovated!

12:59:18    From  RUthe Schoder-Ehri, land and sea of Squaxin people : Beekeeper of Aleppo , my most moving read of 2020

12:59:48    From  Beth Sanders : Lots of first world assumptions about shanty towns exposed in Arrival City. They are full of innovation and serve a purpose of transition. (Note: he doesnΓÇÖt speak to refugee camps, which are a whole other matter.)

13:00:12    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Song of Increase - Honey Bee spirituaity and voices. Best book I have read in 2020

13:00:36    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : listen to nature, to what is calling us?

13:00:39    From  MALINI Rajendran : Why not stop invasion of countries and creating situations that causes internal political strife. I am yet to hear the global community raise a voice against the wars and violence in Africa.  Being upset about refugees is looking for the band aid instead of solving the cause of the disease.

13:02:17    From  Shannon McArthur : Peace is vital - I agree

13:04:20    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Jan see Reactions at the bottom?

Raise your hand at the bottom of that menu.

13:05:04    From  Kat Haber : Reducing competition requires security-inner, outer sufficiency?

13:05:06    From  Kurt Krueger : Blessed to plant my bare feet on Chumash heritage land of North Los Angeles ~ :)

13:06:07    From  Kathryn - Breakout Support : Malini - that is one of the core issues that dealing with climate change will resolve. I fear we are too far down the road to mitigate it too much.

13:06:31    From  Kurt Krueger : Peace with Everything. Everything with Peace. Lama Gangchen

13:06:44    From  Kat Haber : How do we right the taking that was done by ancestors generations previous?

13:06:57    From  Andr├⌐s Nantes France : Dear all of you, I need to leave. I am inspired by all of this discussion. Warmly Andr├⌐s

13:07:08    From  Stanley Pokras (Host) : It may be appropriate to create two more special purpose email lists. One for Peace and the other for TraumaΓǪ a couple months back, I was asking a few people what they thought about trauma as a special issue for our attention. At that time, Malini offered me a plan for taking on the issue of TraumaΓǪ

13:07:13    From  Shannon McArthur : sorry to lose you Andres

13:07:34    From  Kurt Krueger : CU Andres, come again

13:08:42    From  LilianeM-Breakout Host : The question is

   ΓÇ£What is the sacred exchange that you long for in your city?

   ΓÇ£How does this move you to actΓÇ¥

13:08:50    From  Kat Haber : Sacred Xchange: Calm coherence, strife driver of change also joy,

13:09:49    From  Shannon McArthur : did you choose or pick?

13:09:59    From  Shannon McArthur : intentionallyy

13:10:07    From  MALINI Rajendran : This is Day 4 Right . If so the slide needs to be changed please.

13:11:00    From  MALINI Rajendran : https://youtu.be/y9OAlL_p1bU Just incase you missed the link in the Main HR Chat.

13:11:10    From  Shannon McArthur : WE  are the Green Man!

13:11:27    From  LilianeM-Breakout Host : The question is

   ΓÇ£What is the sacred exchange that you long for in your city?

   ΓÇ£How does this move you to actΓÇ¥

13:11:54    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Jan and Charles - which ar eyou choosing? I want to hear your voices?

13:11:58    From  Jan Spencer : Neighborhood associations can be a great place to build relationships

13:12:19    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Jan which for you?

13:15:55    From  LilianeM-Breakout Host : The question is

   ΓÇ£What is the sacred exchange that you long for in your city?

   ΓÇ£How does this move you to actΓÇ¥

13:37:37    From  Kurt Krueger : In the mid 70ΓÇÖs we Met Findhorn foundersΓǪ great and sweet blessing. :)

13:42:34    From  Kurt Krueger : Sacred space. :)

13:46:42    From  annelies W NL : beautiful giving hospiceΓǪ

13:48:03    From  LilianeM-Breakout Host : Thank you Annelies

13:48:28    From  RuthAnn Lenapehoking : thank you all

13:48:38    From  Shannon McArthur : yay Julie!!!

13:50:08    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : ----back from breakout --------

Daniel is sharing our Breakout Room - Shaman

13:51:16    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Out work w the cities is to listen with people who we do not have coherance and give space for that

13:51:57    From  Daniel R : And JulieΓÇÖs art

13:52:37    From  Daniel R : her art is her voice

13:55:02    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Jan and Daniel shared Shaman room and Julir's art (no voice - ony feeling the relationships the connections)

13:56:00    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Shannon is sharing DNA Room. Charlies work and abilty to food a source of food into refugee camps and more

13:56:17    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Hilary gae us an amzing space to grow with in

13:56:29    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : kat and her work. Please Kat share.

13:56:58    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Ruthie - has refugee (camp) friends all over the world.

13:58:10    From  RUthe Schoder-Ehri, land and sea of Squaxin people : gracias friends , new an growing, I need food and rest on my moon.....

13:58:24    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Hilary shares - Kat - milwaukee w Charlie - too look at vacant malls and factoreis and shelters and places for growing food and cultural exchange. Place of vitality. Start w shipping container - exchange of youth and business - giing youth agency and roles.

13:58:54    From  Leo Jacoby : Hilary - repurpose vacant mall spaces into housing, food production and cultural hubs.

13:58:55    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : reframing refugee camp and migration wording. Consult the geese!

13:59:03    From  Daniel R : Ask the squirrels

13:59:13    From  Kurt Krueger : Monarch butterflys

13:59:15    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Salmon - nature knows how to migrate. Nest City synergies.

13:59:18    From  Shannon McArthur : we are best served by learning from Our Mother.

13:59:25    From  Marilyn Hamilton : Bees swarm for intentional migration

13:59:51    From  annelies W NL : Hillary is it possible for you to share the name of the cards (deck) in the chat also?

14:00:03    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Listen to the Honey Bees - they speak their work and spirituality - in 'Song of Increase' by jaqualine Freeman

14:00:38    From  Marilyn Hamilton : @Julie - Song of Increase is my favourite bee book tto:-)

14:00:56    From  Jan Spencer : Hi Hilary e tutti -  i love the ideal of transforming urban infrastructure, i have been transforming my 1/4 acre suburban property in permaculture inspired fashion for 20 years. See above in chat for material plane actions to transform cities, economy and culture,,,includes link to tour of my place   jan in eugene

14:01:29    From  Beth Sanders : As you spoke this now, this came to mind. https://efcl.org/abundant-community-edmonton/

14:01:39    From  Beth Sanders : (To Stan)

14:01:43    From  Daniel R : our power animals: squirrels, bees, worms, and geese

14:01:54    From  Shannon McArthur : and crows

14:01:59    From  Daniel R : and crows

14:02:14    From  Marilyn Hamilton : and moles

14:02:14    From  Beth Sanders : See you all tomorrow!!!!

14:02:39    From  Daniel R : and moles

14:02:48    From  Karen B- breakout support : golden rule

14:02:54    From  Daniel R : all our accomplices

14:03:09    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Stanley got to express thessence of hiw dream. liatn to the needs and dreams of out neighbors. Helpfulness. the idea of a ahman and hacing heart and ... social argonaught. Someone searching for golden peace. not looking for themselves - workign for the good of everyone. Listening is the key factor.  Listenign has an effect and they helped others.  wishing for a system called Social media level 2 - so helpfulness becomes the key facter for what is to come in our thriving  as human species - are we  entering the age of helpfulness? Small very small acts of helpfulness.

14:03:10    From  Marilyn Hamilton : I also need to depart - love your beautiful exploraions with Gaia - DNA-Shaman-Green Man

14:03:12    From  MALINI Rajendran : Hilary, birds and animals in migration are different from human migration because the driving factors and reasons are totally different. Natural Migration is always in synergy with the natural carrying capacity of the palace.

14:03:22    From  Daniel R : I like the platinum rule, treat others the way they want to be treated, this has pitfalls also

14:03:38    From  Daniel R : true Malini

14:03:48    From  Daniel R : Everyone here are SHAMANS

14:03:53    From  MALINI Rajendran : Renaming the refugees does not change the fundamental nature of the problem.

14:04:02    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Hilary - argonaughts - is the band of heroes on greek mythology. In context of our current times. Sahmans work in gardens! LOL lots of cryign too and laughing!

14:04:11    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : ^Shamans

14:04:48    From  Shannon McArthur : Stan, Love you SO much!

14:05:07    From  annelies W NL : Love and ListenΓǪ.to your Neighbour! (including molesΓǪ)

14:05:15    From  Daniel R : The mass immigration into cities is considered a problem, just like the homeless.  Separation. Othering

14:05:31    From  MALINI Rajendran : Stan you are an idea whos time has come. Love you for all you do and the way you think.

14:06:18    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Lilaine - nature and communicating that nature is as important as we are...

See more in the GDocs and in our Day Pages  videso and chats and images in our OtherNetworks.org wiwki of Stan''s and in our gorup emails lists: cities@chataction.org - add yourself. email us.

14:06:55    From  Daniel R : I need to move my body in nature right now.  IΓÇÖll be back soon, but have to take a call from Northern France, so, I will be in out

14:07:06    From  Shannon McArthur : bye, Daniel!!

14:07:09    From  Shannon McArthur : Great day!

14:07:14    From  Daniel R : adios, ill be back

14:07:41    From  Daniel R : if death is chasing you, so is life

14:07:52    From  Shannon McArthur : I love you, ALL!!!

14:07:58    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : the messages we see from nature can be surprising, humorous, and inclusive. Feel Gaia and breathing and connecting with all life.

brinigng the dead back t their natural environment, becoming part oif the natural cirlce of life.

14:07:59    From  MALINI Rajendran : we cannot embrace life without embracing regeneration.

14:08:17    From  Daniel R : true Malini, our brilliant friend

14:08:24    From  Daniel R : the cards were gorgeoous

14:08:32    From  Kurt Krueger : CU Dan.

14:08:52    From  Daniel R : Dear Shannon, the four cards are just a moment in time

14:09:15    From  MALINI Rajendran : yes the cards were simply the most beautiful driver of the sessions.

14:09:36    From  LilianeM-Breakout Host : It was Daniel

14:10:20    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : We can lose touch with cities - RuthAnn -

14:10:41    From  MALINI Rajendran : 56% of the worlds population lives in cities this is expected to go up to 69% by the 2050.

14:10:55    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Note: my voice not heard. (tech offering this gift to me)

14:11:30    From  Shannon McArthur : Your presence is very eloquent, Julie. Thank you for being part of us.

14:11:45    From  RuthAnn Lenapehoking : WE ARE CONNECTORS

14:11:57    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : we are connected

14:12:10    From  RuthAnn Lenapehoking : WE.ARE HONORING CONNECTION

14:12:19    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : I feel beauty

14:12:24    From  Leo Jacoby : Julie, without voice you made some marvelous contributions in chat summaries and with your art (and heart). Thank you

14:13:20    From  Jan Spencer : what is the milwaukee scenario?

14:13:48    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Thanks You Leo.

Jan Watch the videos!

14:14:03    From  Shannon McArthur : Jan, you are connected to Charlie - itΓÇÖs his  story -  and is so interesting and  uplifting!

14:14:13    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : all our Breakouts are recorded (when possible) ... enjoy! We love you!

14:15:03    From  Shannon McArthur : The Need to Grow  has a good idea!!!

14:15:19    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Hydroponic growing in shipping container is equivalent of - how may acres of ag land?

14:15:29    From  LilianeM-Breakout Host : 2

14:15:33    From  Shannon McArthur : 2 acres, I believe

14:15:55    From  Shannon McArthur : fresh vegetables  12 months  a year - makes sense to me

14:15:56    From  LilianeM-Breakout Host : It will be more health too

14:16:02    From  Kurt Krueger : Charles, Braiding Sweetgrass, Robin Kimmerer.

14:16:08    From  MALINI Rajendran : Grow TULSI ossimum sanctum it drains heavy metals from the soil and provides a wonderful health herb.

14:16:26    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : I want a shipping container system - I live ina forest and cant grow much our here in my 10 acres of nature, my home

14:16:46    From  RuthAnn Lenapehoking : FareWELL, Friends! LOVE the forest of possibilities !!!

14:16:46    From  Shannon McArthur : youΓÇÖd be a star  where you are, Julie!!

14:16:48    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : not much sun

14:16:59    From  annelies W NL : I really like to honor Marilyn, Beth and you Chat people, and Gaia for she evolved us (as Marilyn shared in our Gaia group). RutAnn, thank you for adding that our relation to CITIES - work in the city - live in the villageΓǪwhich is almost absorbed by the city.. AND as Shweta brought in yesterday: what can cities learn from ecoregions  - and today: what from refugee camps?? <3 Thank you for hosting the breakouts! See you soon

14:17:21    From  Jan Spencer : I would love to hear more urban intervention stories please join us for ΓÇ£conversations for a preferred futureΓÇ¥ see above from jan in chat

14:17:27    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : winter - need warmth and sun here. lets get creative!

14:17:28    From  MALINI Rajendran : Julie you don't need a container just ask all the community to give you a whole lot of their containers they are going to throw away. just watch my video on YouTube on reimagining our food systems.

14:18:20    From  Shannon McArthur : I heard you, Julie!!!

14:18:55    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Malini - I need a community too.

14:19:08    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : it takes a villae

14:19:13    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : ^village

14:19:41    From  LilianeM-Breakout Host : The Biophilc design artchitecture guys work/share this kind of work, Jan

14:20:04    From  Jan Spencer : jan suburbanpermaculture.org  conversations for a preferred future

14:20:11    From  Kurt Krueger : We are envisioning a powerful step for Humanity Rising forward and upward by exploring what the Peace Lab can develop. We are on a quest to uncover a new definition of a mystery that is waiting to be solved for humanity and life on our planet. The governments can wait to make this happen all they want. The PEOPLE are investigating and creating peace.

When you have any ideas that could bring peace in any manner, anywhere, anytime, please apply it and then share it ~ with us too…

14:20:13    From  Kurt Krueger : When we take some responsibility for being the Peace where we are, we are then models for others to follow ~ the ripples begin with us!

Together we fly more easilyΓǪ :) Exploring┬á worldwide, the Peace Lab dramatically reduces violence and warsΓǪ We get what we focus upon. Share your ideas and expertise, PM us. Shalom.

Lots of Love,

K. A. Krueger

member, Peace Lab

Laboratory ~ experiments, investigates, researches, and explorations, and some emergent design … ALSO

Labyrinth ~ one winding, irregular, peaceful path in and out!

14:20:14    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : The Biophilc design artchitecture guys

14:20:23    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : link Lil ?

14:20:27    From  MALINI Rajendran : No Julie you just need to put it out there . we should talk . Just think out of the boz and you will find so much of resources available. You have to think like how we in the thirdworld think. You don't need community to get want you want. You build a community through trying to get what you want.

14:21:17    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : ok lets talk. hope to be heard. I am doing all I can. and will do more

14:22:38    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Make a page at Othernetworks.org !

14:22:42    From  Julie Wolf Breakout Support : Join our email lists

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